1 00:00:00,479 --> 00:00:02,479 We took him to a child psychologist when he was five 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,960 because he seemed to be identifying as a girl. 3 00:00:04,961 --> 00:00:06,960 I don't want, like, special treatment. 4 00:00:06,961 --> 00:00:09,160 I want to be, you know, normal. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,960 Who's that in the car? That is Gemma. 6 00:00:12,961 --> 00:00:13,960 Hiya. 7 00:00:13,961 --> 00:00:15,960 Oh, my god. Lily, call an ambulance! 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,960 She was going out on a date. 9 00:00:18,961 --> 00:00:20,960 Were you upset about that? Oh, yeah, that's right, blame me! 10 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:23,800 What do you want? I wanna keep Max safe. 11 00:00:23,801 --> 00:00:25,160 You agree, then, you're letting me back? 12 00:00:25,161 --> 00:00:26,960 It doesn't mean I forgive you. 13 00:00:26,961 --> 00:00:27,960 I've got to be there for him. 14 00:00:27,961 --> 00:00:29,960 What aren't you telling me, Stephen? 15 00:00:29,961 --> 00:00:31,160 Going into business, are you? 16 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,960 I'm not gay. What else could you be? 17 00:00:35,961 --> 00:00:38,480 Max wants to go to school like this from now on, 18 00:00:38,481 --> 00:00:41,960 and he wants to change his name to Maxine. 19 00:00:41,961 --> 00:00:45,480 Then I'm going to lose my little boy. Why can't he stop this? 20 00:00:45,481 --> 00:00:46,960 Why can't he just stop it?! 21 00:00:48,170 --> 00:00:51,170 *CREDITS* 22 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:43,960 It's... Vicky and Stephen Duffy. 23 00:01:43,961 --> 00:01:46,000 If you just sign your names there, 24 00:01:46,001 --> 00:01:47,960 and I'll just get your name badges for you. 25 00:01:47,961 --> 00:01:49,960 Great. There we go. First time? 26 00:01:49,961 --> 00:01:50,960 Yeah. 27 00:01:50,961 --> 00:01:52,960 Let me take you through to meet Alice. 28 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:04,960 Alice? So sorry... Um, this is Vicky and Stephen. 29 00:02:04,961 --> 00:02:07,960 We spoke on the phone. Lovely to meet in person. 30 00:02:07,961 --> 00:02:08,960 Good to meet you, too. 31 00:02:08,961 --> 00:02:11,960 And don't worry, I know exactly how you're feeling. 32 00:02:11,961 --> 00:02:13,960 The dads don't always come. 33 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,960 My daughter experienced hate crimes... 34 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:19,960 ..being... 35 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,960 ..beaten up... by grown men. 36 00:02:23,961 --> 00:02:26,960 Being... constantly and deliberately called "him" or "he" 37 00:02:26,961 --> 00:02:28,960 by one of her own teachers. 38 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,960 Until... 39 00:02:31,961 --> 00:02:33,960 we made a complaint to the police. 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,960 This was Sam, aged eight. 41 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,960 And this is Samantha. 42 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:44,960 Aged 23. 43 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:46,960 Doesn't she look happy? 44 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,960 Same person, just the realisation of who she always was. 45 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,960 And now, living and working in Rome, dating a gorgeous Italian. 46 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,960 Stay, please. 47 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,800 OK, any questions? Um... 48 00:03:10,801 --> 00:03:11,960 Hi, we're new. 49 00:03:11,961 --> 00:03:15,960 Um... Our 12-year-old child wants to start going to school as a girl. 50 00:03:15,961 --> 00:03:18,960 She wants to be called Maxine, not Max, she, not he, 51 00:03:18,961 --> 00:03:21,960 and... well, we don't know what to do. 52 00:03:21,961 --> 00:03:24,800 Listen to your child. 53 00:03:24,801 --> 00:03:25,960 If she's convinced... 54 00:03:25,961 --> 00:03:27,960 Yeah, then so should we be. 55 00:03:27,961 --> 00:03:29,960 And you need to speak to your school. 56 00:03:29,961 --> 00:03:32,800 Talk to your head teacher, and get them involved, 57 00:03:32,801 --> 00:03:34,640 before your child starts dressing as a girl. 58 00:03:34,641 --> 00:03:35,960 If you want any support with it... 59 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,960 ..that's what we're here for. 60 00:03:38,961 --> 00:03:39,960 Thank you. Thanks. Yeah? 61 00:03:39,961 --> 00:03:41,960 Thanks. OK. 62 00:03:41,961 --> 00:03:43,960 Thank you, nice to meet... nice to meet you. 63 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,480 I found that really encouraging, didn't you? It was like... 64 00:03:53,481 --> 00:03:55,640 They made you feel like everything was gonna be OK. 65 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,960 Hmm. 66 00:03:58,961 --> 00:04:00,960 How did you feel? 67 00:04:00,961 --> 00:04:02,960 You were very quiet in there. 68 00:04:02,961 --> 00:04:05,960 Max asked me to stay, to be a better dad, so, I'm here. 69 00:04:05,961 --> 00:04:07,960 I found it difficult, if I'm being honest. 70 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,960 But at least we saw the place. 71 00:04:12,961 --> 00:04:14,000 Right? Right. 72 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,960 All right, gay boy? 73 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,960 Is that you rubbing yourself up against me? 74 00:04:26,961 --> 00:04:28,960 That's harassment, that is. 75 00:04:28,961 --> 00:04:29,960 Get smacked for it. 76 00:04:29,961 --> 00:04:31,960 Do you sit when you piss, or what? 77 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,640 Move! 78 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,160 Your mum's setting up her own business... 79 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,960 ..so I'm multi-tasking. 80 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,960 Watch your feet. 81 00:04:55,961 --> 00:04:57,800 A bit of role reversal, eh? 82 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,800 But I look good, yeah? 83 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,480 Max? 84 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,480 Is it the uniform thing? The... 85 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,960 ..changing your name thing, the, you know... 86 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,960 ..pronoun? 87 00:05:27,961 --> 00:05:29,960 No, none of that. 88 00:05:29,961 --> 00:05:30,960 OK. 89 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,960 School? 90 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,480 All right. 91 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,960 Tell me about it. 92 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,960 I wish I had... like... superpowers, you know. 93 00:05:50,961 --> 00:05:52,960 A punch that could send kids flying. 94 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,960 Adnan's doing so well, aren't you? 95 00:06:12,961 --> 00:06:14,960 He's putting his hand up in class, 96 00:06:14,961 --> 00:06:16,960 and he's asking questions in English. 97 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,960 You should be very proud of him. I am. 98 00:06:21,961 --> 00:06:23,960 Um, would you excuse me, please? 99 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,480 You see him? That's my son. 100 00:06:27,481 --> 00:06:29,960 I'll tell you what, you go near him again, 101 00:06:29,961 --> 00:06:31,000 you say anything to him again, 102 00:06:31,001 --> 00:06:32,960 I will put my hand so far down your throat, 103 00:06:32,961 --> 00:06:34,960 I will rip out your heart. 104 00:06:34,961 --> 00:06:35,960 Do you understand? 105 00:06:35,961 --> 00:06:37,960 Can't hit kids, mate. 106 00:06:37,961 --> 00:06:38,960 It's against the law. 107 00:06:38,961 --> 00:06:40,640 What? It's assault. 108 00:06:40,641 --> 00:06:42,960 I'll just tell them that I was defending him against a hate crime. 109 00:06:42,961 --> 00:06:45,960 You know what sort of hate I'm talking about, don't you? 110 00:06:45,961 --> 00:06:47,960 So, unless you boys wanna get on board with peace, love, 111 00:06:47,961 --> 00:06:49,960 and understanding, you will see me again, 112 00:06:49,961 --> 00:06:51,960 so, go on, piss off! 113 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,960 Hey. 114 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,960 What the hell do you think you were doing? 115 00:07:07,961 --> 00:07:10,960 I'm trying! They've been bullying him. 116 00:07:10,961 --> 00:07:12,800 They could make a complaint, or worse still, 117 00:07:12,801 --> 00:07:13,960 you could get a police caution. 118 00:07:13,961 --> 00:07:14,960 They don't like what I am. 119 00:07:14,961 --> 00:07:17,960 I'm just trying to make life easier and better for him, OK? 120 00:07:17,961 --> 00:07:19,960 That is not the way to do it. You don't threaten kids. 121 00:07:19,961 --> 00:07:21,480 I'm doing what I can. 122 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,480 I'm trying. I'm trying. 123 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,960 He threatened to beat up some children, Paula. 124 00:07:29,961 --> 00:07:31,960 How is that supposed to help Max? 125 00:07:31,961 --> 00:07:33,480 Yeah, I know it's a big deal, but... 126 00:07:33,481 --> 00:07:35,160 But what? It's gorgeous! 127 00:07:35,161 --> 00:07:38,160 Oh, that's orange and ylang-ylang. 128 00:07:38,161 --> 00:07:40,960 What are you called? Lathered. 129 00:07:40,961 --> 00:07:44,160 I'll take two of those, and two of the apricot. 130 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,960 Look, I know Stephen messed up, but... 131 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,960 ..you can't keep Max in limbo. 132 00:07:49,961 --> 00:07:50,960 I know. 133 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,640 Right, we're here to celebrate... 134 00:07:55,641 --> 00:07:57,960 The launch of our new business. 135 00:07:57,961 --> 00:07:59,960 To Lathered! 136 00:07:59,961 --> 00:08:00,960 Hey! 137 00:08:00,961 --> 00:08:02,000 Lily's got some. Can I have some? 138 00:08:02,001 --> 00:08:03,960 You're bubbly enough. 139 00:08:03,961 --> 00:08:05,960 Yeah, but he could be even bubblier, couldn't you? 140 00:08:05,961 --> 00:08:07,800 Today is about your mother. 141 00:08:07,801 --> 00:08:09,960 I always thought you were capable of more, you know. 142 00:08:09,961 --> 00:08:11,960 The potential you've got in you. 143 00:08:11,961 --> 00:08:13,640 Aw... Thank you, Peter. 144 00:08:13,641 --> 00:08:15,960 Him, he's just a coaster, isn't he? Yeah. 145 00:08:15,961 --> 00:08:18,960 You, you're a pusher, a go-getter. 146 00:08:18,961 --> 00:08:19,960 Er, and me. 147 00:08:19,961 --> 00:08:22,960 You, yes, congratulations. To the ladies. 148 00:08:22,961 --> 00:08:24,800 Female sex! 149 00:08:24,801 --> 00:08:26,800 Hey, all right, that's enough. Right, Max? 150 00:08:26,801 --> 00:08:27,960 What? Come on, I'm dead proud. 151 00:08:27,961 --> 00:08:29,960 My wife, the entrepreneur, hey? 152 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,960 Can't give up work yet. Wait till the money starts rolling in. 153 00:08:32,961 --> 00:08:35,960 Well, it was supposed to be a celebration. 154 00:08:35,961 --> 00:08:37,960 To paper over the cracks. 155 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,960 What cracks? 156 00:08:40,961 --> 00:08:44,960 Well, that... child psychologist you all had to go to. 157 00:08:44,961 --> 00:08:46,960 What do they call it? Family therapy? 158 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,320 We're as good as any other parents, Barbara. 159 00:08:53,321 --> 00:08:54,960 Are you? 160 00:08:54,961 --> 00:08:57,960 I mean, you've still not given him what he wants. 161 00:08:57,961 --> 00:08:58,960 That's enough. 162 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,960 All right, Nigella (!) 163 00:09:10,961 --> 00:09:13,960 Max, hurry up, your dad's signature dish is on the pass. 164 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:20,960 OK, what should we toast, then? 165 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:22,960 You and me? 166 00:09:22,961 --> 00:09:24,960 We're not exactly happily ever after, are we? 167 00:09:24,961 --> 00:09:26,160 But, um... 168 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,960 ..we're getting somewhere. 169 00:09:29,961 --> 00:09:30,960 Me and you? 170 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,960 Look, I know he is what he is, but Max has been in that bathroom 171 00:09:34,961 --> 00:09:36,960 so long that my bladder's about to explode. 172 00:09:36,961 --> 00:09:39,000 How long's he been in there for? Like half an hour, why? 173 00:09:39,001 --> 00:09:40,960 Really? Yeah. 174 00:09:40,961 --> 00:09:41,960 Has he locked the door? 175 00:09:41,961 --> 00:09:42,960 I think so. Max! 176 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,800 Max. 177 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:50,960 Max! 178 00:09:50,961 --> 00:09:52,960 Max. Darling, unlock the door. 179 00:09:52,961 --> 00:09:53,960 Max, it's Lily! 180 00:09:53,961 --> 00:09:55,960 Max! 181 00:09:55,961 --> 00:09:57,960 I don't want it! Max! 182 00:09:57,961 --> 00:09:59,000 Leave it! It's disgusting! 183 00:09:59,001 --> 00:10:00,960 Stand back. I wanna get rid of it! 184 00:10:00,961 --> 00:10:01,960 I don't want it! 185 00:10:01,961 --> 00:10:02,960 Max! 186 00:10:02,961 --> 00:10:03,960 Oh, my god! 187 00:10:03,961 --> 00:10:05,800 Max, what are you doing? 188 00:10:05,801 --> 00:10:07,000 It's changing, it's changing all the time! 189 00:10:07,001 --> 00:10:08,960 It makes me feel sick! Give me the glass. 190 00:10:08,961 --> 00:10:10,960 I want to get rid of it! There's glass in the bath. 191 00:10:10,961 --> 00:10:12,960 It's getting bigger. I wanna get rid of it! 192 00:10:12,961 --> 00:10:14,960 OK! Argh! 193 00:10:14,961 --> 00:10:18,800 Right... Listen to me... Come on. 194 00:10:18,801 --> 00:10:19,960 I can't stand it. 195 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:21,960 It's OK, it's OK. 196 00:10:21,961 --> 00:10:23,960 They said this would happen, didn't they? 197 00:10:23,961 --> 00:10:25,960 They said this is how you're gonna feel. 198 00:10:25,961 --> 00:10:29,320 Now we've got to listen to you, we've got to do something. Come on! 199 00:10:29,321 --> 00:10:31,640 We will. We will, son, we will. 200 00:10:31,641 --> 00:10:33,640 We will, Maxine! OK, Maxine. 201 00:10:33,641 --> 00:10:34,960 OK. 202 00:12:49,060 --> 00:12:52,060 Maxine, you do realise this isn't just a matter of... 203 00:12:52,061 --> 00:12:56,060 swapping one colour pencil case for another, or opting for netball? 204 00:12:57,060 --> 00:12:59,060 The choice you wanna make now, it... 205 00:13:01,100 --> 00:13:03,060 Do you have any idea how hard it's gonna be? 206 00:13:03,061 --> 00:13:06,060 Sheila, he's started puberty, and he's not handling it. 207 00:13:06,061 --> 00:13:08,060 He tried to take a broken glass to his erection. 208 00:13:08,061 --> 00:13:09,260 Mum! 209 00:13:09,261 --> 00:13:12,060 Well, we're not talking about wanting to wear pink! 210 00:13:12,061 --> 00:13:14,060 What are you doing? You're embarrassing him. 211 00:13:14,061 --> 00:13:16,060 I want a happy daughter, not a dead son. 212 00:13:16,061 --> 00:13:18,060 Well, stop saying "he," then. 213 00:13:19,060 --> 00:13:22,060 Sorry. And Stephen, what do you want? 214 00:13:22,061 --> 00:13:23,060 Um... 215 00:13:24,060 --> 00:13:26,420 You know, this transitioning thing, obviously... 216 00:13:28,060 --> 00:13:29,060 It'll give... 217 00:13:30,060 --> 00:13:31,060 ..Maxine freedom, 218 00:13:31,061 --> 00:13:34,060 however it turns out in the end, which is a good thing, I guess. 219 00:13:34,061 --> 00:13:35,900 What, you think Max might suddenly say... 220 00:13:37,060 --> 00:13:38,060 .."I don't feel like this any more"? 221 00:13:39,060 --> 00:13:40,580 It's possible. 222 00:13:40,581 --> 00:13:44,060 Because if it is just temporary, and he changes his mind... 223 00:13:44,061 --> 00:13:46,260 Max might have to go to another school, and... 224 00:13:46,261 --> 00:13:48,060 well... 225 00:13:48,061 --> 00:13:50,060 you might have to move home to find one. 226 00:13:50,061 --> 00:13:52,060 I'm not gonna change my mind, though. 227 00:13:52,061 --> 00:13:54,060 It's what I want to be. 228 00:13:54,061 --> 00:13:55,060 It's what I am. 229 00:13:55,061 --> 00:13:58,100 I've seen him... her in her school skirt, 230 00:13:58,101 --> 00:14:01,060 the tights and that, and... 231 00:14:02,060 --> 00:14:03,060 ..yeah. 232 00:14:03,061 --> 00:14:04,060 Looks right. 233 00:14:05,260 --> 00:14:07,060 What professional help are you getting? 234 00:14:07,061 --> 00:14:10,060 There's a gender clinic called the Ferrybank 235 00:14:10,061 --> 00:14:14,740 that we were referred to by a mental health practitioner, 236 00:14:14,741 --> 00:14:18,060 but we're still waiting for them to get back to us. 237 00:14:22,740 --> 00:14:25,580 Over half term, I'm gonna send a letter out to Max's year group, 238 00:14:25,581 --> 00:14:28,060 to say she's coming to school as Maxine. 239 00:14:28,061 --> 00:14:29,580 Thank you, Sheila. 240 00:15:21,060 --> 00:15:23,060 Ta-da! 241 00:15:23,061 --> 00:15:24,900 Wow! 242 00:15:26,060 --> 00:15:28,060 Well? Will she do? 243 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:30,260 She'll do. 244 00:15:32,060 --> 00:15:33,060 You will. 245 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:36,100 Come here. 246 00:15:44,260 --> 00:15:46,060 Hey. 247 00:15:46,061 --> 00:15:48,060 Come on, it's a new start. 248 00:15:48,061 --> 00:15:49,060 Lily, keep an eye. 249 00:15:49,061 --> 00:15:50,900 Look, she knows. Yeah, don't worry. 250 00:15:50,901 --> 00:15:52,060 It's in my DNA. 251 00:15:52,061 --> 00:15:53,060 What are you thinking? 252 00:15:53,061 --> 00:15:54,060 Will I be a proper girl? 253 00:15:56,060 --> 00:15:57,060 Just be yourself. 254 00:15:58,060 --> 00:16:00,060 You can do this. 255 00:16:00,061 --> 00:16:01,060 Be brave. 256 00:16:02,060 --> 00:16:03,060 I love you. 257 00:16:04,060 --> 00:16:06,060 All right? 258 00:16:06,061 --> 00:16:07,900 Go on. Go on. See you. 259 00:16:29,060 --> 00:16:30,060 It's OK. 260 00:16:47,060 --> 00:16:49,060 So, what's up there, then? 261 00:17:09,060 --> 00:17:11,060 Settle down! 262 00:17:15,740 --> 00:17:18,060 Morning, Maxine. 263 00:17:18,061 --> 00:17:19,580 ALL: Maxine! 264 00:17:19,581 --> 00:17:22,060 Right! Let's move on. 265 00:17:22,061 --> 00:17:24,060 Let's just... get on. 266 00:17:26,060 --> 00:17:31,060 It stands for grace, happiness, and gentleness. 267 00:17:31,061 --> 00:17:33,060 Look, a tranny and a stick insect! 268 00:17:34,260 --> 00:17:36,060 I think you need one of these. 269 00:17:37,060 --> 00:17:39,060 Molly, sit down. 270 00:17:39,061 --> 00:17:41,060 You, leave the room! 271 00:17:44,260 --> 00:17:45,420 Maxine... 272 00:17:46,740 --> 00:17:48,060 You said let's just get on. 273 00:17:49,060 --> 00:17:50,420 Right. Good. 274 00:17:52,060 --> 00:17:55,740 So, today we are gonna pick up from where we left off last week. 275 00:17:55,741 --> 00:17:57,060 Do you wear knickers as well, or a bra? 276 00:17:58,060 --> 00:18:00,060 Look, Lily, it's your brother. 277 00:18:00,061 --> 00:18:03,060 BOYS: What toilet do you go to? Do you have a wee sitting down? 278 00:18:04,060 --> 00:18:07,060 Hey! Come on, leave her alone. 279 00:18:08,060 --> 00:18:10,060 Oh. 280 00:18:10,061 --> 00:18:12,060 My big sister. 281 00:18:12,061 --> 00:18:13,060 Molly. 282 00:18:13,061 --> 00:18:15,060 Hi, Molly. 283 00:18:15,061 --> 00:18:17,420 Have you been off school a while? Yeah. 284 00:18:19,260 --> 00:18:21,060 Sorry, where are you taking her? 285 00:18:21,061 --> 00:18:23,060 Going to listen to some music. 286 00:18:24,060 --> 00:18:25,580 OK. 287 00:18:32,060 --> 00:18:33,900 Show me yours. 288 00:18:35,060 --> 00:18:36,900 How do you know I've got any? 289 00:18:36,901 --> 00:18:38,060 You must do. 290 00:18:49,060 --> 00:18:51,060 Why'd you do it? 291 00:18:51,061 --> 00:18:53,060 I like the way it made me feel. 292 00:18:53,061 --> 00:18:55,060 It released me. 293 00:18:55,061 --> 00:18:56,580 From what? 294 00:18:59,060 --> 00:19:01,060 I want to make everything perfect. 295 00:19:02,420 --> 00:19:05,060 I wanted to make everything different. 296 00:19:05,061 --> 00:19:06,060 Your body? 297 00:19:07,740 --> 00:19:08,900 It's OK. 298 00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:12,060 Mine, too. 299 00:19:12,061 --> 00:19:13,060 You're not trans, though. 300 00:19:13,061 --> 00:19:15,060 I'm a fat pig. 301 00:19:15,061 --> 00:19:16,060 What? Of course you're not. 302 00:19:18,060 --> 00:19:21,740 Sometimes my uniform is so tight, I can't wear it. 303 00:19:23,060 --> 00:19:25,060 Same goes for all the other clothes in my wardrobe. 304 00:19:27,060 --> 00:19:28,060 It's like I'm gonna burst. 305 00:19:29,060 --> 00:19:30,060 Are you ill? 306 00:19:31,060 --> 00:19:33,060 Yeah. 307 00:19:33,061 --> 00:19:34,060 Are you? 308 00:19:34,061 --> 00:19:35,060 No. 309 00:19:35,061 --> 00:19:37,060 You're lucky. 310 00:19:38,060 --> 00:19:41,060 Especially as I'm gonna be your best friend, as well. 311 00:20:04,060 --> 00:20:06,060 # I remember us alone 312 00:20:06,061 --> 00:20:08,580 # Waiting for the light to go 313 00:20:08,581 --> 00:20:10,060 # Don't you feel that hunger 314 00:20:10,061 --> 00:20:13,060 # I've got so many secrets to show 315 00:20:13,061 --> 00:20:15,060 # When I saw you on that stage 316 00:20:15,061 --> 00:20:17,060 # I shiver with the look you gave 317 00:20:17,061 --> 00:20:19,060 # Can't you hear that rhythm 318 00:20:19,061 --> 00:20:22,060 ? Can you show me how we can escape. ? 319 00:20:26,060 --> 00:20:28,580 # I was biting my tongue 320 00:20:28,581 --> 00:20:30,580 ? I was trying to hide. ? 321 00:20:35,060 --> 00:20:38,060 # I forget what I've done 322 00:20:38,061 --> 00:20:40,060 # I'll be redefined 323 00:20:40,061 --> 00:20:42,100 # It's shaking the sky 324 00:20:42,101 --> 00:20:45,060 # And I'm following lightning 325 00:20:45,061 --> 00:20:48,260 # I'll recover if you keep me alive 326 00:20:48,261 --> 00:20:51,060 # Don't leave me behind 327 00:20:51,061 --> 00:20:54,060 # Can you see me I'm shining 328 00:20:54,061 --> 00:20:57,060 # And it's you that I've been waiting to find 329 00:20:57,061 --> 00:20:59,580 # I'm holding it all tonight 330 00:20:59,581 --> 00:21:02,060 # I'm folding it all tonight 331 00:21:02,061 --> 00:21:04,060 # You know that you make it shine 332 00:21:04,061 --> 00:21:06,060 # And it's you that I've been waiting to find 333 00:21:06,061 --> 00:21:08,420 # I'm holding it all tonight 334 00:21:08,421 --> 00:21:10,740 # I'm folding it all tonight 335 00:21:10,741 --> 00:21:12,580 # You know that you make it shine 336 00:21:12,581 --> 00:21:15,060 ? It's you that I've been waiting to find... ? 337 00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:24,740 Hi, Nana! 338 00:21:26,060 --> 00:21:28,060 Hi. Hi, Mum. 339 00:21:30,060 --> 00:21:33,740 Still letting this go on? Whatever he wants, he gets. 340 00:21:33,741 --> 00:21:36,260 She doesn't want it, she can't help how she feels. 341 00:21:36,261 --> 00:21:40,900 He's 12. He's a child, and you're supposed to be his parent, 342 00:21:40,901 --> 00:21:44,060 but you're like a genie, granting whatever his wish is. 343 00:21:44,061 --> 00:21:46,060 Yeah, I remember now - they didn't have that when I was a kid. 344 00:21:46,061 --> 00:21:48,060 It's called making your child happy (!) 345 00:21:48,061 --> 00:21:50,060 Spoiling him isn't gonna make happy. 346 00:21:50,061 --> 00:21:52,060 It's just gonna make him unrealistic. 347 00:21:52,061 --> 00:21:53,060 I'm not spoiling her. 348 00:21:53,061 --> 00:21:54,060 I'm loving her. 349 00:21:54,061 --> 00:21:56,060 Hovering over him isn't loving him! 350 00:21:56,061 --> 00:21:57,060 What do you mean I'm hovering? 351 00:21:57,061 --> 00:21:59,060 The only reason you took that job in the school 352 00:21:59,061 --> 00:22:00,900 was so you could be near him, 353 00:22:00,901 --> 00:22:03,100 watching him, turning him into what he's turned into. 354 00:22:03,101 --> 00:22:06,060 Don't be mean to my mum! She's way nicer than you are! 355 00:22:06,061 --> 00:22:07,060 Maxine! Maxine! 356 00:22:07,061 --> 00:22:09,060 Bloody punish him! 357 00:22:09,061 --> 00:22:11,060 She's already being punished. We all are! 358 00:22:11,061 --> 00:22:13,060 She's on a five-month waiting list. Let's go. 359 00:22:13,061 --> 00:22:14,060 Nothing's ever his fault, is it? 360 00:22:14,061 --> 00:22:17,060 That's why he's like that. That's what I'm talking about! 361 00:22:20,060 --> 00:22:21,420 You're no grandson of mine. 362 00:22:21,421 --> 00:22:23,060 I know I'm not. 363 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,560 We've waited five months for this. 364 00:22:37,561 --> 00:22:38,560 The Ferrybank clinic. 365 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,920 We've got an appointment. 366 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,560 They took their time, but it's the next step. 367 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,560 I wonder what they'll think. 368 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,560 Come on. 369 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,560 Tell me some things that scare you. 370 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,560 Getting a deep voice. 371 00:23:26,561 --> 00:23:30,560 Why? I know... when I look at myself... 372 00:23:30,561 --> 00:23:32,560 it's not how I should sound. 373 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,920 What else? 374 00:23:35,921 --> 00:23:37,080 My... 375 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,560 ..you know... 376 00:23:39,561 --> 00:23:41,560 my-my penis. 377 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,560 It's becoming... 378 00:23:44,561 --> 00:23:47,560 It's become... even more wrong. 379 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,560 But Mum said there's something I can take. 380 00:23:51,561 --> 00:23:56,560 As far as puberty blockers are concerned, some people might say 381 00:23:56,561 --> 00:24:01,560 it's totally reversible, but there are potential complications. 382 00:24:01,561 --> 00:24:04,600 Concerns about creating an unequal rate of growth, 383 00:24:04,601 --> 00:24:07,560 between the trunk and the legs. 384 00:24:07,561 --> 00:24:08,560 Deformity? 385 00:24:08,561 --> 00:24:10,560 Well, not really. 386 00:24:10,561 --> 00:24:12,400 Define "not really." 387 00:24:12,401 --> 00:24:15,560 Maxine's... She's started puberty and it's killing her. 388 00:24:15,561 --> 00:24:17,560 She's tried to mutilate herself. 389 00:24:17,561 --> 00:24:20,560 Look, I don't think it's helpful to focus 390 00:24:20,561 --> 00:24:23,240 all our attention on physical intervention. 391 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,560 Well... Maxine... 392 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,560 ..needs to have puberty stopped, not just talked about. 393 00:24:31,561 --> 00:24:34,240 Maxine, we're not here just to dole something out... 394 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,560 ..that you can just go away and take. 395 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,760 We want to understand how you felt, and when you started feeling it. 396 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,560 I thought I could stop my body from changing... 397 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,560 ..if I cut it... 398 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,560 ..and... that would... make me feel different. 399 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,240 There must be something better than that. 400 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,560 Changing the way you think. 401 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,560 Or that thing I can take. 402 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,400 I feel like I'm wading in deeper and deeper, 403 00:25:14,401 --> 00:25:16,560 because it seems like the right thing to do, the only thing to do. 404 00:25:16,561 --> 00:25:18,560 Oh... 405 00:25:18,561 --> 00:25:19,920 I just wanna make everyone happy, you know? 406 00:25:19,921 --> 00:25:21,560 Vicky especially, but... 407 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,560 ..I don't know how happy I am any more. 408 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,600 You have to ask yourself, Stephen, does she really want you... Oh. 409 00:25:29,601 --> 00:25:32,560 ..or does she just need a supportive husband next to her 410 00:25:32,561 --> 00:25:35,080 when you go to the clinic, or the school, or... 411 00:25:35,081 --> 00:25:38,400 whatever it is you have to go through hoops for, or is it you? 412 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,560 I dunno. 413 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,560 Well, you should know, Stephen. 414 00:25:42,561 --> 00:25:44,560 Don't go along with things 415 00:25:44,561 --> 00:25:47,560 if you're not really certain it's the right thing for him. 416 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,760 You've got a stain on this shirt. It won't come out. 417 00:25:54,761 --> 00:25:56,240 Hmm? 418 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,560 That was yesterday. 419 00:25:59,561 --> 00:26:01,080 Lunch with the site foreman. 420 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,560 Hairy-assed foreman drinks chamomile tea, does he? 421 00:26:07,561 --> 00:26:09,560 Sorry? 422 00:26:09,561 --> 00:26:10,560 Fell out your pocket. 423 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,560 Oh, man, this is ridiculous. 424 00:26:30,561 --> 00:26:32,920 All these forms and endless bloody questions, I mean, 425 00:26:32,921 --> 00:26:34,560 don't they ask us enough in person? 426 00:26:34,561 --> 00:26:36,560 It has to be done. Right, OK. 427 00:26:36,561 --> 00:26:37,920 I mean, how you even supposed to know 428 00:26:37,921 --> 00:26:40,560 the right answers to some of these? 429 00:26:40,561 --> 00:26:41,560 Huh? 430 00:26:41,561 --> 00:26:43,240 There's no right answer, Dad. 431 00:26:43,241 --> 00:26:45,560 You just be honest. 432 00:26:45,561 --> 00:26:46,560 It's not that hard. 433 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,560 If there's anything you don't know, just ask me. What are you up to? 434 00:26:53,561 --> 00:26:55,560 Considerate of other people's feelings. 435 00:26:55,561 --> 00:26:58,560 Well, that's absolutely true, so that'll be certainly true. Hm-mm. 436 00:26:58,561 --> 00:27:02,560 You didn't tell Stephen during your separation that, at home, 437 00:27:02,561 --> 00:27:05,760 Maxine dressed and behaved as a girl. 438 00:27:05,761 --> 00:27:07,080 Why was that, Vicky? 439 00:27:07,081 --> 00:27:09,560 My house, my rules. 440 00:27:09,561 --> 00:27:12,920 But you didn't tell him you were applying those rules. 441 00:27:12,921 --> 00:27:14,920 No, cos I knew that he wouldn't agree. 442 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,920 Stephen, you left the family home when Maxine was eight. 443 00:27:20,921 --> 00:27:22,760 Why was that? 444 00:27:22,761 --> 00:27:25,560 I couldn't cope with it, but I came back. 445 00:27:25,561 --> 00:27:26,560 To support Maxine? 446 00:27:26,561 --> 00:27:28,080 To be a good dad to Max. 447 00:27:28,081 --> 00:27:31,560 To reinforce him as a boy, you mean? 448 00:27:31,561 --> 00:27:34,560 To make sure he was all right, I mean. 449 00:27:34,561 --> 00:27:38,560 When you and Lily spent weekends with your dad, did it come up? 450 00:27:38,561 --> 00:27:40,560 Not really. 451 00:27:40,561 --> 00:27:41,560 Why not? 452 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,560 I didn't let it. 453 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,560 You wanted him to have a perception of you, a way of seeing you. 454 00:27:50,561 --> 00:27:52,560 I wanted him to like me. 455 00:27:52,561 --> 00:27:56,560 Knowing that Stephen didn't approve of Maxine's gender identification, 456 00:27:56,561 --> 00:27:58,560 you still invited him back? 457 00:27:58,561 --> 00:27:59,560 Yeah. 458 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,560 Well, because I... 459 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,600 ..love him. 460 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,560 And... Maxine wanted him back. 461 00:28:08,561 --> 00:28:11,560 And you thought that Maxine was acting out 462 00:28:11,561 --> 00:28:14,560 because of the separation? 463 00:28:14,561 --> 00:28:16,560 I didn't, no, but Stephen was sure. 464 00:28:16,561 --> 00:28:22,560 But you worked with him to bring Maxine back on track, if you like? 465 00:28:22,561 --> 00:28:25,560 We just wanted to help a confused little boy, 466 00:28:25,561 --> 00:28:28,560 and maybe it was a mistake. People make them. 467 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,560 Can we please just move on? 468 00:28:32,561 --> 00:28:33,560 Please. 469 00:28:33,561 --> 00:28:37,560 When you showed your mum and dad how you looked in a school skirt... 470 00:28:37,561 --> 00:28:38,560 how was that? 471 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,560 Bit nervous. Nervous? 472 00:28:41,561 --> 00:28:42,600 But... Lily helped. 473 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,560 It was Lily's idea. 474 00:28:47,561 --> 00:28:48,560 She made me. 475 00:28:48,561 --> 00:28:49,560 Made you? 476 00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:50,560 Not like that. 477 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,080 Gave me the courage. That's all. 478 00:28:54,081 --> 00:28:56,560 You wouldn't have done it without Lily being there? 479 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,560 I don't know. 480 00:29:01,561 --> 00:29:02,560 I, um... 481 00:29:02,561 --> 00:29:06,560 We didn't know how much his sister was behind it, to be honest. 482 00:29:06,561 --> 00:29:09,560 And we'd probably have taken more time. 483 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,920 Did you insist that's how you wanted to go to school? 484 00:29:13,921 --> 00:29:16,560 N... No... 485 00:29:16,561 --> 00:29:17,560 but in the end... 486 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,400 ..it was obvious I had to. 487 00:29:22,401 --> 00:29:23,560 Why? 488 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,560 I came round in the end, OK? 489 00:29:29,561 --> 00:29:31,560 I... can... 490 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,560 ..see the problems that... puberty is causing... 491 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,560 ..her. 492 00:29:40,561 --> 00:29:41,560 Especially now... 493 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,560 ..now that I'm worried that she might kill herself. 494 00:29:45,561 --> 00:29:47,560 We're both worried that she might kill herself. 495 00:29:47,561 --> 00:29:49,560 And you think it was the fear of the harm 496 00:29:49,561 --> 00:29:51,560 you might do that persuaded them? 497 00:29:51,561 --> 00:29:52,560 I don't know. 498 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,600 Ask them. 499 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,560 What about you, Maxine? 500 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,560 How certain are you that you're doing the right thing? 501 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,560 I want to feel happy. 502 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,560 I want my parents to be happy with me. 503 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,560 Are you worried about their support for you? 504 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,560 I don't want them to stop loving me because of it. 505 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,560 My husband gets it now. 506 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,560 I think, if I'm honest, that I've always got it, 507 00:30:31,561 --> 00:30:34,920 I just wasn't ready to admit it, not 100%, I wasn't... 508 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,560 ..I wasn't ready to say... 509 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,760 ..goodbye to my little boy. 510 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,560 Hmm. 511 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,560 Do you get it? 512 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,560 There's a lot to... get your head around... 513 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,080 ..you know, but... I'm trying. 514 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,560 You're still hoping it's just a phase? 515 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,560 Yes. 516 00:31:09,561 --> 00:31:11,560 Stephen! 517 00:31:11,561 --> 00:31:14,400 I'm sorry, look, I'm really sorry, but I do. 518 00:31:14,401 --> 00:31:19,560 I mean, if he-she, if bloody she had... I don't know... er... 519 00:31:19,561 --> 00:31:22,560 leukaemia or something, I'd be by her bedside every day, 520 00:31:22,561 --> 00:31:25,560 I'd do anything I could to stop how terrible she felt, 521 00:31:25,561 --> 00:31:27,560 to take the pain away. 522 00:31:27,561 --> 00:31:29,560 Until she got better. I wouldn't hate her, I'd just... 523 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,560 ..I'd hate the leukaemia. 524 00:31:32,561 --> 00:31:34,920 You think this is a sickness? 525 00:31:34,921 --> 00:31:36,560 It's who she is, Stephen. 526 00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:38,240 Just treat her, OK? 527 00:31:38,241 --> 00:31:40,560 Just... treat her. 528 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,560 Leukaemia, for fuck's sake! All right. 529 00:31:49,561 --> 00:31:52,560 No, it's not all right - you compared her to an illness! 530 00:31:52,561 --> 00:31:53,920 I get that, OK, I'm just saying that there's 531 00:31:53,921 --> 00:31:55,560 a range of things that we can do, not just... 532 00:31:55,561 --> 00:31:57,560 puberty blockers, which, by the way, 533 00:31:57,561 --> 00:31:59,560 they're not gonna hand out like bloody sweets. 534 00:31:59,561 --> 00:32:01,560 They'll stop her body from changing and give us more time, 535 00:32:01,561 --> 00:32:02,920 so we're absolutely sure. 536 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:04,760 The last thing she needs now is an Adam's apple, 537 00:32:04,761 --> 00:32:07,080 and hair growing on her, and a voice like a wrestler! 538 00:32:07,081 --> 00:32:10,560 So what?! Let them decide what she needs, OK, not you! 539 00:32:10,561 --> 00:32:12,560 What she needs is physical intervention now! 540 00:32:12,561 --> 00:32:14,560 She's already hurt herself twice. 541 00:32:14,561 --> 00:32:15,760 I know. That's only gonna get worse! 542 00:32:15,761 --> 00:32:18,560 How can it get worse? She'll have the body of a 12-year-old 543 00:32:18,561 --> 00:32:19,560 for the next three years. 544 00:32:19,561 --> 00:32:21,560 But at least she won't hate it! 545 00:32:21,561 --> 00:32:23,560 Do you even care how she feels? 546 00:32:23,561 --> 00:32:26,240 If I didn't care, I wouldn't be there, would I? 547 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,920 You're undermining why we're there. 548 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,560 Hey. 549 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,560 What's wrong? 550 00:33:12,260 --> 00:33:16,780 # I think at last I'm down the path to being me 551 00:33:16,781 --> 00:33:19,260 # And I know it won't be easy 552 00:33:19,261 --> 00:33:23,260 # And I'm already shit scared 553 00:33:26,260 --> 00:33:30,260 ? And I'm thinking that I'd better be prepared. ? 554 00:33:30,261 --> 00:33:32,260 It's nice to know you're not alone, huh? 555 00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:37,620 Where's Dad? 556 00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:50,260 Will I make us some dinner? 557 00:33:51,260 --> 00:33:53,260 Some pasta or something? 558 00:33:53,261 --> 00:33:54,780 I'm good, I'm not hungry. 559 00:33:57,780 --> 00:33:59,260 Are you staying? I can't. 560 00:34:04,260 --> 00:34:05,620 What's the point in me, Stephen? 561 00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:08,260 What? 562 00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:14,260 Am I just someone you use to punish Vicky? 563 00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:18,260 No. 564 00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:20,260 No. 565 00:34:20,261 --> 00:34:23,260 So what about what I want? 566 00:34:26,780 --> 00:34:28,260 I don't even know what I want. 567 00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:33,620 For fuck's sake, Stephen. 568 00:34:33,621 --> 00:34:37,260 At least it was about Maxine before, but this is just about you and her. 569 00:34:41,260 --> 00:34:43,260 I knew it.. 570 00:34:43,261 --> 00:34:44,260 I knew it. 571 00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:47,260 I'm sorry. 572 00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:08,460 Come mine tonight? 573 00:35:08,461 --> 00:35:12,260 Can't. Gotta help my mum out. Are you home alone? 574 00:35:12,261 --> 00:35:14,260 Yeah, they've all gone back to Leeds to the clinic. 575 00:35:14,261 --> 00:35:16,260 Assessment, family therapy, whatever. 576 00:35:16,261 --> 00:35:18,260 Well, if it's family, why aren't you there? 577 00:35:19,260 --> 00:35:21,260 I don't know. All right, girls? 578 00:35:21,261 --> 00:35:22,260 Yeah, you all right? 579 00:35:22,261 --> 00:35:24,260 Hey, Lily, are you heterosexual? 580 00:35:24,261 --> 00:35:25,260 Yeah, why? 581 00:35:25,261 --> 00:35:26,260 Not like your brother, then. 582 00:35:26,261 --> 00:35:27,780 My sister! 583 00:35:27,781 --> 00:35:29,260 Exactly. 584 00:35:29,261 --> 00:35:31,260 Look, in her case, Dean, it's gender, not sexuality. 585 00:35:31,261 --> 00:35:34,260 Right, anyway, it confuses the fuck out of me. 586 00:35:34,261 --> 00:35:36,260 I'm only asking because Aaron here, 587 00:35:36,261 --> 00:35:38,260 he's not confused about his feelings. 588 00:35:38,261 --> 00:35:39,260 Dean, shut up, man. 589 00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:43,260 Yeah, you know, so, um... What? 590 00:35:43,261 --> 00:35:45,260 He fancies your trans sister. No, I don't. 591 00:35:45,261 --> 00:35:47,260 I don't, um... 592 00:35:47,261 --> 00:35:50,300 Well, it's actually you that I'm, you know, interested in. 593 00:35:53,260 --> 00:35:54,260 Makes a change. 594 00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:05,460 Please don't... 595 00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:08,620 ..please don't do that. 596 00:36:08,621 --> 00:36:10,260 We never say no, 597 00:36:10,261 --> 00:36:12,260 we only say not now. 598 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:15,260 We want to keep meeting you... 599 00:36:16,620 --> 00:36:20,300 ..to support you in the other ways we can, and offer family therapy. 600 00:36:20,301 --> 00:36:24,100 And for you, Maxine, to join an LGBT group. 601 00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:26,260 I can't have it. 602 00:36:26,261 --> 00:36:27,260 We want to encourage you 603 00:36:27,261 --> 00:36:29,260 to think about more fluid ways to embrace your gender, 604 00:36:29,261 --> 00:36:31,260 not this box or that box. 605 00:36:32,260 --> 00:36:33,260 To learn how to be you. 606 00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:37,260 A feminine boy, or gay, or neither a boy or a girl. 607 00:36:37,261 --> 00:36:41,260 And you don't think she's got enough confusion in her life? 608 00:36:41,261 --> 00:36:43,300 We have taken various things into consideration. 609 00:36:43,301 --> 00:36:50,300 Stephen, your stance, for instance, on Maxine's gender identification, 610 00:36:50,301 --> 00:36:54,260 and Maxine, your own experience... 611 00:36:54,261 --> 00:36:57,940 and we feel that while there are still such... 612 00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:03,260 ..uncertainties, going forward now with medical intervention 613 00:37:03,261 --> 00:37:04,260 would just be wrong. 614 00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:06,260 Don't you believe me? 615 00:37:07,780 --> 00:37:11,940 We just think a watchful, waiting approach, 616 00:37:11,941 --> 00:37:16,260 as we don't think things are urgent just yet. 617 00:37:16,261 --> 00:37:18,260 No, it is urgent. But more than that... 618 00:37:19,940 --> 00:37:22,260 ..we think you're a family in distress... 619 00:37:22,261 --> 00:37:25,780 and we all need to work together to figure out what's best. 620 00:37:27,260 --> 00:37:28,940 Right. 621 00:37:28,941 --> 00:37:30,260 Hm. 622 00:37:30,261 --> 00:37:32,260 What do you mean, "right" - it's not right, though, is it? 623 00:37:32,261 --> 00:37:35,260 You sit there all friendly and neutral, 624 00:37:35,261 --> 00:37:38,260 but what you're actually saying is no. 625 00:37:38,261 --> 00:37:42,260 And saying no isn't neutral, is it? 626 00:37:42,261 --> 00:37:43,260 What did I do wrong? 627 00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:46,260 You didn't do anything wrong, darling, you've done nothing wrong. 628 00:37:46,261 --> 00:37:49,260 There are other things that can happen, Maxine, while you wait. 629 00:37:49,261 --> 00:37:50,300 She can't wait. 630 00:37:52,260 --> 00:37:54,260 And you can't deny her treatment! 631 00:37:54,261 --> 00:37:56,260 Vicky, it's not as open and shut as that. 632 00:37:56,261 --> 00:37:57,260 Then what are you saying? 633 00:37:57,261 --> 00:37:59,460 What's she gonna do, wait until she's 16 when it is too late, 634 00:37:59,461 --> 00:38:03,260 and she's gone through all that agony and hell, 635 00:38:03,261 --> 00:38:05,100 and then she ends up in a man's body? 636 00:38:05,101 --> 00:38:07,260 And then what will you do, offer her more counselling 637 00:38:07,261 --> 00:38:08,260 when she tries to commit suicide again? 638 00:38:08,261 --> 00:38:10,260 Calm down, Vicky. Is that what you'll do? 639 00:38:10,261 --> 00:38:11,260 It's your fault! How's it... 640 00:38:11,261 --> 00:38:14,100 You're the uncertainty, because they won't support this, 641 00:38:14,101 --> 00:38:16,260 because you won't support her. 642 00:38:16,261 --> 00:38:18,260 So, this is actually your fault. 643 00:38:18,261 --> 00:38:20,260 It's exactly what's happened in the past, 644 00:38:20,261 --> 00:38:22,260 that's what you're basically saying, isn't it? 645 00:38:22,261 --> 00:38:23,300 That's right, slag me off in front of them. 646 00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,260 You're proving their point. 647 00:38:25,261 --> 00:38:26,260 No, you've already proven the point, 648 00:38:26,261 --> 00:38:28,260 by sitting there and wobbling and worrying. 649 00:38:28,261 --> 00:38:30,260 Well, I'm here, aren't I? I'm here! 650 00:38:30,261 --> 00:38:32,260 But these are the experts, these are the people that know! 651 00:38:32,261 --> 00:38:35,780 Oh, shut... I'm the expert, all right, I'm the expert, 652 00:38:35,781 --> 00:38:39,260 because I'm a mother, and she's the expert, not you! 653 00:38:39,261 --> 00:38:41,260 You don't know, we know. 654 00:38:41,261 --> 00:38:42,300 We know. We know. 655 00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:18,260 I don't think I can... trust you any more. 656 00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:34,620 Look, even if we don't hire an accountant, 657 00:39:34,621 --> 00:39:37,260 we're still gonna need accounting software, 658 00:39:37,261 --> 00:39:40,780 so if we move to Shopify, we can caption emails, use their apps, 659 00:39:40,781 --> 00:39:42,260 but it doesn't come cheap. 660 00:39:42,261 --> 00:39:44,260 So... What? 661 00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:48,260 ..I'll approach my brother-in-law, if you approach your mother. 662 00:39:48,261 --> 00:39:49,300 I can't, she's not talking to me right now. 663 00:39:49,301 --> 00:39:50,460 She thinks I'm a crap mum. 664 00:39:51,460 --> 00:39:53,260 You know, if this takes off, 665 00:39:53,261 --> 00:39:54,260 we won't be able to do it in our kitchens, 666 00:39:54,261 --> 00:39:56,260 we'll need a place with industrial ovens and that. 667 00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:57,460 I can't do this right now. 668 00:39:58,780 --> 00:40:01,260 We have to think about volume and stock, we can't just... 669 00:40:01,261 --> 00:40:02,260 I don't give a shit! 670 00:40:03,260 --> 00:40:05,100 I'm sorry. 671 00:40:08,260 --> 00:40:10,620 Don't buy the puberty blockers online. 672 00:40:10,621 --> 00:40:13,260 I mean, you don't know what you'd be getting. 673 00:40:13,261 --> 00:40:14,260 I never would, I was... 674 00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:18,260 ..gonna go to the GP and get a prescription. 675 00:40:18,261 --> 00:40:19,260 Well, good luck with that! 676 00:40:19,261 --> 00:40:21,260 Because most of them think it's outside their expertise 677 00:40:21,261 --> 00:40:22,260 and competence. 678 00:40:22,261 --> 00:40:24,260 So where do I go, then? 679 00:40:24,261 --> 00:40:28,260 Look, Mermaids can't recommend anything outside the NHS, but... 680 00:40:28,261 --> 00:40:29,260 What? 681 00:40:29,261 --> 00:40:32,260 Well, we can make you aware of other options. 682 00:40:32,261 --> 00:40:35,100 I read online that you took your daughter to Boston. 683 00:40:35,101 --> 00:40:36,260 Um... 684 00:40:36,261 --> 00:40:38,260 Is that still an option? Yes. 685 00:40:38,261 --> 00:40:41,260 I can give you the contact details, if you want them. 686 00:40:41,261 --> 00:40:43,260 Yeah, I want them. 687 00:40:43,261 --> 00:40:44,260 Look at Maxine. 688 00:40:46,460 --> 00:40:49,260 It looks like she's just realised she's not alone. 689 00:40:54,260 --> 00:40:56,260 I want her to be that happy all the time. 690 00:40:56,261 --> 00:40:57,260 I know. 691 00:40:58,620 --> 00:41:01,100 Does it cost a lot? 692 00:41:01,101 --> 00:41:03,100 Depends how many visits. 693 00:41:03,101 --> 00:41:04,460 But thousands. 694 00:41:04,461 --> 00:41:06,260 I mean... it's out of reach for most people. 695 00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:09,780 I'm starting my own business... Starting! 696 00:41:09,781 --> 00:41:11,260 Vicky... 697 00:41:12,260 --> 00:41:14,260 ..you need the money now. 698 00:41:26,260 --> 00:41:27,260 Thanks, Barbara. 699 00:41:31,260 --> 00:41:33,780 Thanks, Mum... 700 00:41:33,781 --> 00:41:37,260 We really appreciate your support. I know we don't always see eye to eye. 701 00:41:37,261 --> 00:41:39,260 She's had to eat a lot of humble pie. 702 00:41:39,261 --> 00:41:41,620 But at the end of the day, 703 00:41:41,621 --> 00:41:44,260 I quite like the idea of being an investor. 704 00:41:44,261 --> 00:41:46,460 Of having a bit of control... 705 00:41:47,460 --> 00:41:49,260 ..in her affairs. 706 00:41:51,260 --> 00:41:53,260 We just wanna make it work, don't we? 707 00:41:53,261 --> 00:41:55,100 You're determined all of a sudden. 708 00:41:55,101 --> 00:41:56,260 I am. 709 00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:58,260 Mum... 710 00:41:58,261 --> 00:41:59,260 Is something wrong? 711 00:41:59,261 --> 00:42:01,260 No, I just need to talk to you. Not now. 712 00:42:01,261 --> 00:42:04,260 Mum, please, can you just listen? Darling, please, please, not now! 713 00:42:07,460 --> 00:42:10,260 Where are we going, Mum? 714 00:42:10,261 --> 00:42:12,260 America. 715 00:42:12,261 --> 00:42:13,620 No way - really? 716 00:42:13,621 --> 00:42:15,260 Yep. 717 00:42:15,261 --> 00:42:16,260 Really. 718 00:42:16,261 --> 00:42:17,260 Why? 719 00:42:17,261 --> 00:42:21,260 Why? Because I'm your mum, and I'll do anything for you, that's why. 720 00:42:24,260 --> 00:42:26,260 I think you have to take some of that make-up off. 721 00:42:26,261 --> 00:42:30,100 You need to look as much like your passport photo as possible. 722 00:42:30,101 --> 00:42:32,620 And, um... will you lose the earrings and the bag, please? 723 00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:44,260 Hi. 724 00:42:58,260 --> 00:43:00,260 Ready? Hmm. 725 00:43:00,261 --> 00:43:01,260 I'm not gonna let you down. 726 00:43:58,260 --> 00:44:00,460 Hi, you must be Maxine! 727 00:44:00,461 --> 00:44:02,260 Maxine is my child, too! 728 00:44:02,261 --> 00:44:04,260 This should have been our decision! 729 00:44:04,261 --> 00:44:06,260 Victoria Duffy, I'm arresting you 730 00:44:06,261 --> 00:44:08,260 under Section One of the Child Abduction Act. 731 00:44:08,261 --> 00:44:10,260 Dean said he saw you around here. 732 00:44:10,261 --> 00:44:11,260 Yeah, I'm staying at my nan's. 733 00:44:11,261 --> 00:44:13,300 I've come to say I'm sorry. Is that all? 734 00:44:14,780 --> 00:44:16,260 I can't talk to you right now. 735 00:44:16,261 --> 00:44:19,260 The local authority might apply to the court for an interim care order. 736 00:44:19,261 --> 00:44:22,260 I know "guardian" sounds like I come in here and I start taking over. 737 00:44:22,261 --> 00:44:24,100 I just need to talk to you all. 738 00:44:24,101 --> 00:44:27,620 This is not about concern for Maxine, this is about panic, 739 00:44:27,621 --> 00:44:29,260 because you can't control it. 740 00:44:29,261 --> 00:44:30,780 She's reckless, obsessed. 741 00:44:30,781 --> 00:44:33,260 We could lose her altogether, you know that, don't you? 742 00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:36,940 You said everything would be all right. 743 00:45:05,260 --> 00:45:07,460 Subtitles by TVT