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When?

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Yesterday.

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Police have been and gone.

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What was taken?

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Not sure.

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And that.

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It's still here.

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But not where I left it.

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I keep telling you,

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you don't have
the appropriate legal authority.

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I was a driver for a lawyer once,
named Blake Gaines.

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Does that help?

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Only if you want him
to represent you in court.

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He is dead.

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You are dying, old man?

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Does it look as if I am?

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No.

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You are dead...

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...already.

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Synced & corrected by -robtor-
www.addic7ed.com

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You know that safe house I was in?

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Turns out it is not so safe.

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Snap.

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- Where?
- Kate's house.

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The office.

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What did they get?

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A hard drive,
with a copy of your tape on it.

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Where's the original?

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With Frank.

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- Safe?
- Says so.

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Mark Viner?

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Eve used to work for him?

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Burned to death.

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Accident?

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They say.

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He had oxygen tanks.

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But... I don't know, Alice.

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Something tells me,
if you're going to make this speech,

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you'd better hurry up and make it.

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Your mother's file.

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We are managing to locate
everything we need,

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except for one article.

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This.

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That is the number for a file
we cannot find.

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When you return to London,
might you perhaps take another look?

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Two days before my mother
left for The Hague,

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she came here

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and took something
out of that Ganimana file.

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Whatever it is, that's what Runihura
wants me to find.

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What is it?

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Where is it?

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Why is everyone always wearing black
around here these days?

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Mark Viner's funeral.

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It went OK?

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I think I'm getting used to them.

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I got you a new set of these.

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Right.

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What are you looking for?

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Two days before she left for The Hague,

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my mother visited Mark Viner
and took out some kind of document.

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The night before she went,

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the thing that ignited that massive
row between us

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was when she found me
looking at the Nyamoya file,

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this file,

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on her desk.

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And a couple of days after that,
she was dead.

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That's what I'm looking for.

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That document.

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And it turns out...

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...so is David Runihura.

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And where's Captain Congo?

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Don't say that.

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Sorry.

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I didn't know you
thought that much...

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Just don't call him that.

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OK.

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So, where is he?

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I don't know!

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- I thought he worked for you.
- He does,

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- but not on a punch card.
- Well, he's not with Kate!

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Well, he must be onto something.

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Do you trust him?

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Michael.

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I'm the only family he's got.

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He may go his own way,
but he'll always come home.

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Why do you ask?

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Well, it's just that these days

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everyone seems so
full of surprises.

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Even you.

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Are you OK?

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If I have to eat
another plate of

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pork and beans I'm
going to scream.

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- OK.
- You know that recipe I gave you?

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I can't wait to have it again.

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You can.

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Soon as you get home.

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Great.

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Do not lose it.
It is the only one I have.

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Understood.

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And then there is
the one that you

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are going to cook
up for yourself.

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How is it going?

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Complicated.

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But I get it right, it is going to
earn me a Michelin star.

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Rich tastes!

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Baby.

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That's me.

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Rwanda today finally
delivered its indictment

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to the UK government

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requesting the immediate extradition
of Patrice Ganimana,

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accused participant
in the Rwandan genocide.

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Because of the indictment's
precise details,

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the Rwandan government
are confident

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the UK will have little choice

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but to fall in line with Canada
and other European countries

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who have recently granted
similar extradition requests.

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Mr Zand.

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We have now had the opportunity
to study, in detail,

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the indictment
presented by the CPS

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on behalf of the
government of Rwanda

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alleging my client's
participation

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in the Rwandan genocide of 1994.

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And I am now in a position to state,
categorically,

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that my client, Patrice Ganimana,
has no case to answer,

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due to the simple and absolute truth

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that he was not in Rwanda at the time

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that these accusations
are alleged to have taken place.

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But I'm not even going to lose
consciousness.

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I'm not aware of the exact
nature of your procedure.

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It's an ultrasound,
darling, for my

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left ovary, it says
so right there.

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I still need a next of kin.

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I don't have a next of kin.

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Husband, children?

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Parents? Sibling?

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Now you're just making me sad.

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Michael, would you please be my next
of kin, so Nurse Ratched here

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- can check off her box?
- Turn on CN56.

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Give me the remote.

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Excuse me?

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Sweetheart, you can't spend your

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whole life watching
Catching Kelce.

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The remote!

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Today!

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Thank you.

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Having made the sensational claim,

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Mr Ganimana's barrister then offered
to submit supporting evidence

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including witness statements
claiming that

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his client had fled Rwanda in July 1992

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and taken refuge in the
Democratic Republic of the Congo,

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then known as Zaire, some two years
before the Rwandan genocide.

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If correct, this could prove a huge
and embarrassing stumble,

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not only for the government of Rwanda

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but for the Crown Prosecution
Service here in the UK

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and for the progress of
international justice worldwide,

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because if the case is thrown out,

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all charges against Patrice Ganimana
will be dropped.

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- Shhhhit.
- Andrew McCulloch,

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Westminster Magistrates' Court, London.

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- Got him!
- What?

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I gotta go. I got a scan.

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- A what?
- A procedure.

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Jesus. Is everyone in my world ill?

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Yeah, well, call it a symptom
of collective guilt.

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- I thought you didn't believe in that.
- Well, now I do.

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And now I have the cure.

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What's going on?!

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He was clearly there!

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Look!

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Look!

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Look!

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It'll all depend on the credibility
of the witnesses...

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Take your pick!

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...for the defence,
who are willing

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to testify he wasn't in Rwanda.

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Who?

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But they must have some mighty big
rabbit in their hat

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or they wouldn't try this trick.

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So we need a rebuttal witness
to state he was there.

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Yeah, we do.

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One so reliable,
they couldn't possibly dismiss.

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Then isn't it lucky you've got me?

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You?

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There's good news and there's bad news.

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First, the good news.

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The little shit has slipped up

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and I'm the one to rub it in his face.

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How?

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The indictments range from 1992 to 1994.

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And his lawyer says that he had
already left the country by then.

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Well, unlucky for him,

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I hadn't.

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Because that's when
I met him, and

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I've got the evidence
to prove it.

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So whoever they think they've got

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to say that he wasn't there, we've got

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the Assistant Secretary,
Bureau of African Affairs,

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US State Department to say that he was.

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I'd say that's a Top Trump,
wouldn't you?!

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I didn't know you cared.

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I only care about
things I can do something about.

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And now I can do something about this.

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That's the good news.

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And the bad news?

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There's a clock on this.

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Yes, there is.

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No, I mean on me.

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Gotten me a complex ovarian cyst

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that measures 12
centimetres across.

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Kinda like that asteroid
they sent Bruce Willis to deal with.

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Maybe that's what I
ought to do, get

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him in there, blow
the fucker up.

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- That's a thought.
- Anyway,

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they've gotta go in, abdominally.

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Sorry to hear that.

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And, like, tomorrow, really.

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Right.

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Well, what do you want to do?

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Well, I've put them off.

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I want you to arrange
for me to give a sworn statement

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via video-link to the police.

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Well, we could wait till after.

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You're not getting me, are you, Mikey?

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- What?
- This is it.

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This is what we've been waiting for.

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I'm about to say out loud, under oath,

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what no-one has been able to say
for over 20 years.

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Not me, not Eve,
not Alice, not you. None of us.

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But now we can.

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And all because Patrice Ganimana
just made a spectacular fuck-up.

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Who'd have thought it?

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So tell Alice to pack her bags pronto.

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She's going home!

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You don't need me to tell you
that almost every electronic device

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you touch, watch or travel in
has a tantalum capacitor within it.

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You don't need me to tell you
that the coltan in this region

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is second to none.

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You don't need me to tell you
that since the implementation

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of the Dodd-Frank Act, the
supply line between our mines,

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into this country,

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to the world beyond,
are certified conflict-free.

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Guaranteed.

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And you don't need
me to tell you

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what that's done
for this region.

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But you do need me to tell you this.

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It's not making us rich.

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It's making other people rich.

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People in Germany, Kazakhstan, China.

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People who buy our ore
at rock-bottom prices,

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refine it, and sell it on
at double the profit.

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Until now.

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Because in 18 months' time,

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the first tantalum refinery
will be up and running here.

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And 18 months after that, another.

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And then another.

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Until the time comes,
and I believe it will,

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when this country becomes the leading

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tantalum powder exporter in the world,

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widening your profits by
hundreds of millions of dollars,

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whilst bringing about
an equally dramatic

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reduction in your trade deficit.

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This is your economy.

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Your future.

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And moment by moment, day by day,

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year by year,

266
00:18:07,417 --> 00:18:10,028
you are taking control of it.

267
00:18:10,577 --> 00:18:13,216
We're proud to be along for the ride.

268
00:18:13,737 --> 00:18:15,377
Thank you.

269
00:18:39,017 --> 00:18:42,616
Of course, he will be making a few
million out of it too...

270
00:18:46,450 --> 00:18:50,289
You know, recently we had a report
written about our judiciary.

271
00:18:50,314 --> 00:18:52,793
It says we need assistance.

272
00:18:52,988 --> 00:18:56,336
Apparently, we do not pay
our defence counsels enough.

273
00:18:56,828 --> 00:18:59,096
Maybe this...

274
00:18:59,097 --> 00:19:00,188
...will help.

275
00:19:01,017 --> 00:19:02,976
Actually, I'm serious.

276
00:19:02,977 --> 00:19:05,176
I think it will.

277
00:19:05,177 --> 00:19:07,736
And I have got no problem with that.

278
00:19:07,737 --> 00:19:09,913
I have got no problem with anything

279
00:19:09,938 --> 00:19:13,201
that stops us being
subservient to anyone.

280
00:19:14,377 --> 00:19:15,977
Because we don't need to be.

281
00:19:17,897 --> 00:19:21,336
Recently, our friend Alice Munezero

282
00:19:21,337 --> 00:19:23,456
defeated the French in their own court,

283
00:19:23,457 --> 00:19:28,256
and she was poisoned for it
by someone, or some country.

284
00:19:28,257 --> 00:19:30,016
You know who I'm talking about.

285
00:19:32,097 --> 00:19:36,056
And at this moment also
there is a bad African in the UK

286
00:19:36,057 --> 00:19:38,936
trying to worm his way out of his
destiny.

287
00:19:38,937 --> 00:19:40,456
He won't.

288
00:19:40,457 --> 00:19:42,696
He will be sent here, I know it.

289
00:19:43,068 --> 00:19:45,216
Because what we are doing here...

290
00:19:45,217 --> 00:19:46,896
...with that line...

291
00:19:47,468 --> 00:19:49,136
...we are doing there,

292
00:19:49,137 --> 00:19:50,697
with our law.

293
00:19:52,137 --> 00:19:53,868
And we are doing it right.

294
00:19:55,297 --> 00:19:57,016
So don't worry about it.

295
00:19:57,017 --> 00:19:58,616
Leave it to me.

296
00:19:58,617 --> 00:20:00,177
We're going to be fine.

297
00:20:16,657 --> 00:20:18,977
_

298
00:20:20,304 --> 00:20:22,304
_

299
00:20:22,543 --> 00:20:24,512
_

300
00:20:24,537 --> 00:20:28,016
- What if she uses the opportunity?
- To do what?

301
00:20:28,017 --> 00:20:29,776
To speak against you.

302
00:20:29,777 --> 00:20:31,697
And why would she do that?

303
00:20:39,908 --> 00:20:41,748
We have been watching her.

304
00:20:42,377 --> 00:20:43,896
And what have you seen?

305
00:20:43,897 --> 00:20:48,456
Not sure, but until we
are, I don't think she should speak.

306
00:20:48,457 --> 00:20:51,536
- I don't care.
- Because she's your sister?

307
00:20:51,537 --> 00:20:53,216
She's not my sister.

308
00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:55,057
Close.

309
00:21:01,097 --> 00:21:03,536
And do you think that might make you...

310
00:21:03,537 --> 00:21:04,576
What?

311
00:21:04,577 --> 00:21:05,896
Blind.

312
00:21:06,228 --> 00:21:07,656
Because why?

313
00:21:07,657 --> 00:21:09,296
If you care for someone...

314
00:21:09,708 --> 00:21:11,657
It makes you blind?

315
00:21:14,217 --> 00:21:17,577
There was a time you loved me.

316
00:21:19,816 --> 00:21:21,856
Did that make you blind?

317
00:21:23,897 --> 00:21:26,576
I want only what is best for the country.

318
00:21:27,028 --> 00:21:28,456
For the country?

319
00:21:28,744 --> 00:21:30,224
Or for me?

320
00:21:32,017 --> 00:21:34,856
You are the country.

321
00:21:37,777 --> 00:21:39,657
Then you really don't see me.

322
00:21:54,217 --> 00:21:56,376
Let Alice speak.

323
00:21:56,377 --> 00:21:58,377
She wants the world to see her.

324
00:22:07,337 --> 00:22:08,776
They've agreed.

325
00:22:08,777 --> 00:22:10,696
The MPS will interview her.

326
00:22:10,697 --> 00:22:12,896
Eunice will go to a police station
in Washington

327
00:22:12,897 --> 00:22:16,256
- and they'll do it via video-link.
- When?

328
00:22:16,257 --> 00:22:18,416
4pm tomorrow, GMT.

329
00:22:18,417 --> 00:22:20,497
About the same time you land.

330
00:22:21,723 --> 00:22:23,363
No backing out, then.

331
00:22:24,391 --> 00:22:25,551
You want to?

332
00:22:29,457 --> 00:22:30,857
Just...

333
00:22:33,097 --> 00:22:34,617
...been so long.

334
00:22:37,257 --> 00:22:38,977
You don't have to do it.

335
00:22:40,497 --> 00:22:42,737
I am the only one who can.

336
00:22:51,977 --> 00:22:54,416
You will be there for me, Mikey?

337
00:22:54,417 --> 00:22:55,496
Every step.

338
00:22:55,497 --> 00:22:56,936
And you will call Frank?

339
00:22:56,937 --> 00:22:58,777
He's on standby, he knows.

340
00:23:00,508 --> 00:23:02,056
I have to have it.

341
00:23:02,057 --> 00:23:04,976
You will. He'll be there.

342
00:23:05,388 --> 00:23:07,096
It'll be fine.

343
00:23:27,017 --> 00:23:28,497
_

344
00:23:29,697 --> 00:23:35,017
I am not going out
until my husband arrives.

345
00:24:37,857 --> 00:24:40,176
Mrs Clayton, can you hear me?

346
00:24:40,177 --> 00:24:42,056
- Yes.
- And can you see me?

347
00:24:42,057 --> 00:24:43,176
I can.

348
00:24:43,177 --> 00:24:45,936
You are about to make
a sworn witness statement

349
00:24:45,937 --> 00:24:47,394
with regard to the matter of

350
00:24:47,395 --> 00:24:50,296
the government of Rwanda
versus Patrice Ganimana.

351
00:24:50,297 --> 00:24:52,296
- Is that correct?
- It is.

352
00:24:52,748 --> 00:24:55,616
For the record,
if you could just identify yourself.

353
00:24:55,617 --> 00:24:58,696
In public life, I'm Assistant Secretary,

354
00:24:58,697 --> 00:25:02,376
Bureau of African Affairs,
US State Department.

355
00:25:02,377 --> 00:25:04,256
But today, I'm appearing before you

356
00:25:04,257 --> 00:25:07,348
entirely in the capacity
as a private citizen.

357
00:25:08,188 --> 00:25:11,296
Between 1987 and 1998

358
00:25:11,297 --> 00:25:13,505
I worked as a field
officer for the

359
00:25:13,517 --> 00:25:15,736
John Hopkinson
Refugee Relief Fund.

360
00:25:16,108 --> 00:25:19,376
I was first posted in Rwanda in 1990

361
00:25:19,377 --> 00:25:23,456
at the beginning of the civil war
between the then Hutu government

362
00:25:23,457 --> 00:25:26,097
and the returning Tutsi-led RPF.

363
00:25:27,537 --> 00:25:31,376
During this period,
government forces and other militia

364
00:25:31,377 --> 00:25:34,893
began rounding up Tutsi communities,

365
00:25:34,894 --> 00:25:36,615
some to be massacred,

366
00:25:36,616 --> 00:25:38,525
others held in
parks and stadiums

367
00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:40,457
in the most harrowing
conditions.

368
00:25:41,697 --> 00:25:45,016
On February 15th 1993,

369
00:25:45,017 --> 00:25:48,416
as I was trying to coordinate the
delivery of relief aid,

370
00:25:48,417 --> 00:25:51,216
I personally met with Patrice Ganimana

371
00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:55,056
when he and a large number
of FAR government soldiers

372
00:25:55,057 --> 00:25:57,376
arrived to block our supplies.

373
00:25:57,377 --> 00:25:59,176
He did not let us pass

374
00:25:59,177 --> 00:26:01,387
and soldiers under his direct command

375
00:26:01,412 --> 00:26:03,776
had us forcibly removed from the area.

376
00:26:03,777 --> 00:26:06,976
And we understand
you have corroborating material.

377
00:26:06,977 --> 00:26:08,297
I do.

378
00:26:11,617 --> 00:26:13,941
This is the arrest
sheet made out at the

379
00:26:13,953 --> 00:26:16,176
police station to
which we were taken,

380
00:26:16,177 --> 00:26:19,976
which clearly cites Patrice Ganimana
as the commanding officer.

381
00:26:20,388 --> 00:26:23,176
I offer this information
in direct rebuttal

382
00:26:23,177 --> 00:26:25,416
to the statement
made by Ganimana's lawyer

383
00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:27,857
that he had already fled the country
by this point.

384
00:26:28,897 --> 00:26:30,576
He had not.

385
00:26:30,577 --> 00:26:33,216
He was present, he was involved,

386
00:26:33,217 --> 00:26:35,456
and I am a witness to that fact.

387
00:26:35,908 --> 00:26:38,576
We'll need that sheet copied
and certified.

388
00:26:38,577 --> 00:26:39,936
Of course.

389
00:26:39,937 --> 00:26:42,616
But there's something else
I'd like to say.

390
00:26:42,617 --> 00:26:46,297
That was not the last time
I saw Patrice Ganimana.

391
00:26:47,817 --> 00:26:50,748
I've a prepared statement
which I'll read, if I may.

392
00:27:02,577 --> 00:27:06,697
The genocide of '94, it has no
comparison.

393
00:27:07,857 --> 00:27:11,136
800,000 Tutsis, at least,

394
00:27:11,137 --> 00:27:13,136
murdered within 100 days.

395
00:27:13,137 --> 00:27:16,937
The most intensive ethnic slaughter
in modern history.

396
00:27:20,257 --> 00:27:23,736
The RPF ended that genocide, no doubt.

397
00:27:23,737 --> 00:27:27,376
And no doubt either,
they did not cause it.

398
00:27:27,377 --> 00:27:31,230
It was coordinated by a desperate
group within the Hutu government

399
00:27:31,231 --> 00:27:34,496
who drove themselves and their
country insane

400
00:27:34,497 --> 00:27:36,536
by their own propaganda.

401
00:27:36,537 --> 00:27:38,776
Propaganda that spread like a virus.

402
00:27:38,777 --> 00:27:42,856
A virus of fear so evil,
those that caught it

403
00:27:42,857 --> 00:27:45,816
stopped seeing human beings as
people at all

404
00:27:45,817 --> 00:27:47,576
but as insects,

405
00:27:47,577 --> 00:27:50,456
insects that needed to be eradicated,

406
00:27:50,457 --> 00:27:52,256
systematically,

407
00:27:52,257 --> 00:27:54,496
in 100 days,

408
00:27:54,902 --> 00:27:57,068
until it was stopped.

409
00:27:57,537 --> 00:28:00,936
But for millions of people,
millions of Hutus,

410
00:28:00,937 --> 00:28:05,536
the fear they'd already been
infected with, that didn't go away.

411
00:28:05,537 --> 00:28:08,136
Something else took its place.

412
00:28:08,137 --> 00:28:09,896
The fear of retribution.

413
00:28:09,897 --> 00:28:13,736
And no matter how hard
the RPF tried to reassure them,

414
00:28:13,737 --> 00:28:18,421
they still ran out of Rwanda into Zaire.

415
00:28:18,422 --> 00:28:21,296
And the killers ran with them.

416
00:28:21,297 --> 00:28:25,056
I know this because that's where
I saw Patrice Ganimana

417
00:28:25,057 --> 00:28:29,032
for the second time, in early 1997.

418
00:28:29,033 --> 00:28:31,696
In a refugee camp in Zaire.

419
00:28:31,697 --> 00:28:36,336
No longer just a major,
now he was the leader of his group.

420
00:28:36,337 --> 00:28:38,616
Still fanning the hatred,

421
00:28:38,617 --> 00:28:40,575
blowing on the embers,

422
00:28:40,576 --> 00:28:42,816
trying to ignite it all again.

423
00:28:42,817 --> 00:28:45,216
Looking to go back to Rwanda,

424
00:28:45,217 --> 00:28:47,537
to finish what they'd started.

425
00:28:49,370 --> 00:28:51,529
But then they arrived.

426
00:28:51,554 --> 00:28:52,994
A new army.

427
00:28:54,917 --> 00:28:58,169
There'd been ethnic tension in the
region for years.

428
00:28:58,657 --> 00:29:00,136
The government of Zaire

429
00:29:00,137 --> 00:29:03,788
had been waging a campaign
against ethnic Tutsis.

430
00:29:04,257 --> 00:29:08,948
The arrival of the Hutu refugees
exacerbated the tension

431
00:29:09,508 --> 00:29:14,536
until, in 1996,
an ethnic Tutsi army was formed,

432
00:29:14,537 --> 00:29:18,536
with the intent of both
toppling the Zairian government

433
00:29:18,537 --> 00:29:22,257
and ridding the region
of the Hutu refugee camps.

434
00:29:23,737 --> 00:29:27,868
By '97, the RPF
sent its own military leaders

435
00:29:27,869 --> 00:29:30,696
into the ranks of this new Tutsi army

436
00:29:30,697 --> 00:29:35,017
to help coordinate the dismantling
of these final camps.

437
00:29:36,657 --> 00:29:40,056
And it's true, in the camps I attended,

438
00:29:40,057 --> 00:29:42,617
Ganimana and his people were there.

439
00:29:44,097 --> 00:29:49,176
But I contend they were using
these refugees as human shields.

440
00:29:49,688 --> 00:29:52,576
Of an estimated 50,000 people,

441
00:29:52,908 --> 00:29:54,856
9,000 were children,

442
00:29:55,348 --> 00:29:57,576
many more were women,

443
00:29:57,577 --> 00:30:00,968
and almost all were catastrophically ill.

444
00:30:01,577 --> 00:30:04,656
They couldn't have gone anywhere
if they'd wanted.

445
00:30:04,657 --> 00:30:07,811
Then one day in
April, all Western

446
00:30:07,823 --> 00:30:10,988
aid workers were
ordered to leave.

447
00:30:11,737 --> 00:30:14,496
We were taken to a cordon
about a mile away,

448
00:30:14,497 --> 00:30:16,536
out of sight of the camps.

449
00:30:16,537 --> 00:30:18,216
A few workers,

450
00:30:18,217 --> 00:30:20,614
including a colleague
of mine, Edward

451
00:30:20,626 --> 00:30:22,908
Holt, remained until
the very last.

452
00:30:26,948 --> 00:30:30,056
So I cannot say I saw it.

453
00:30:30,308 --> 00:30:33,096
I cannot say I saw anything.

454
00:30:33,097 --> 00:30:36,376
What I can say is that four days later,

455
00:30:36,377 --> 00:30:40,016
when we were finally allowed to
return to the camp,

456
00:30:40,017 --> 00:30:44,468
it was completely empty,
and I mean completely.

457
00:30:44,897 --> 00:30:49,416
Not a single vestige to indicate
that less than a week before,

458
00:30:49,417 --> 00:30:52,616
some 50,000 people had been living there.

459
00:30:52,617 --> 00:30:57,016
Women, children, babies.

460
00:30:57,017 --> 00:30:59,148
Many too ill to move.

461
00:30:59,737 --> 00:31:02,028
It was as if they never existed.

462
00:31:02,417 --> 00:31:06,936
And I never saw any of them again, ever.

463
00:31:06,937 --> 00:31:08,776
Except for one.

464
00:31:09,768 --> 00:31:12,136
Someone my colleague Ed Holt

465
00:31:12,137 --> 00:31:14,576
took with him on his last airlift out.

466
00:31:14,577 --> 00:31:16,816
A little girl.

467
00:31:17,148 --> 00:31:19,297
A Hutu child.

468
00:31:28,530 --> 00:31:30,450
Are you coming in?

469
00:31:31,497 --> 00:31:33,617
Any reason why I shouldn't?

470
00:31:43,657 --> 00:31:47,256
Ed flew with you to Kigali,
where Eve was waiting.

471
00:31:47,588 --> 00:31:50,136
He handed you to her
and went straight back,

472
00:31:50,137 --> 00:31:51,936
the rotors didn't stop.

473
00:31:52,268 --> 00:31:54,148
They didn't even say goodbye.

474
00:31:54,737 --> 00:31:56,296
Eve took you to hospital.

475
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:58,590
You almost died.

476
00:31:59,977 --> 00:32:01,137
Many times.

477
00:32:02,184 --> 00:32:03,864
I think you would've, without her.

478
00:32:04,977 --> 00:32:06,536
I went to see Alice.

479
00:32:06,988 --> 00:32:09,407
She knew that Eve and I
had been building a case

480
00:32:09,408 --> 00:32:11,856
against Ganimana for the ICTR.

481
00:32:11,857 --> 00:32:14,216
When he was located in that camp,

482
00:32:14,217 --> 00:32:17,136
we expected her to coordinate his arrest.

483
00:32:17,137 --> 00:32:21,136
But because of her position
in military intelligence,

484
00:32:21,137 --> 00:32:23,988
she already knew
what was really happening out there.

485
00:32:25,028 --> 00:32:29,216
The RPF was a very disciplined
outfit, they still are.

486
00:32:29,217 --> 00:32:32,616
They take a hell of a lot of pride
in that. I know Alice did.

487
00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:34,669
Geneva Convention and all that.

488
00:32:35,288 --> 00:32:39,296
Anyway, when she found out
what was really happening out there,

489
00:32:39,297 --> 00:32:41,816
she thought it bust all that down.

490
00:32:41,817 --> 00:32:44,616
So she put a wiretap
on the military airwaves

491
00:32:44,617 --> 00:32:47,296
to record the chatter between units.

492
00:32:47,868 --> 00:32:49,136
Why?

493
00:32:49,137 --> 00:32:51,457
To prove they knew
what was really going on.

494
00:32:52,617 --> 00:32:54,250
And when your mother heard it,

495
00:32:54,251 --> 00:32:56,384
she wanted to take the recordings
to the ICTR

496
00:32:56,385 --> 00:32:58,976
and use it to prosecute
the new government,

497
00:32:59,388 --> 00:33:03,136
for you, for your family, for Ed,

498
00:33:03,137 --> 00:33:04,497
for justice.

499
00:33:05,857 --> 00:33:10,456
Except everyone knew
it wouldn't be allowed.

500
00:33:10,457 --> 00:33:12,176
It couldn't be.

501
00:33:12,177 --> 00:33:16,016
Not by the US, the UK, the UN.

502
00:33:16,308 --> 00:33:18,416
Not even by me.

503
00:33:18,988 --> 00:33:21,677
What was happening out there, to

504
00:33:21,689 --> 00:33:24,897
you, your family,
how many others...

505
00:33:26,497 --> 00:33:29,056
...as terrible as it was,
on the scale of things,

506
00:33:29,057 --> 00:33:30,848
it couldn't match what
had already happened.

507
00:33:30,873 --> 00:33:32,456
There's no possible equivalence.

508
00:33:32,457 --> 00:33:34,897
And that's what we were there
to prosecute.

509
00:33:37,257 --> 00:33:39,937
The genocide of almost a million people.

510
00:33:42,397 --> 00:33:44,156
How could we possibly, Kate,

511
00:33:44,457 --> 00:33:46,696
possibly bring an investigation

512
00:33:46,697 --> 00:33:49,297
against the very people
who had just brought it to a close?

513
00:33:51,684 --> 00:33:53,123
We couldn't.

514
00:33:53,148 --> 00:33:54,988
Nobody wanted to listen.

515
00:33:55,457 --> 00:33:57,148
They didn't even want to know.

516
00:33:57,617 --> 00:33:59,857
So we agreed we had to shut it all down.

517
00:34:01,017 --> 00:34:02,337
There was no other choice.

518
00:34:03,417 --> 00:34:06,296
And to protect you, we gave you a story

519
00:34:06,297 --> 00:34:09,256
around which we knew
everyone would want to help.

520
00:34:09,257 --> 00:34:10,668
And they did.

521
00:34:11,097 --> 00:34:12,628
It got you out.

522
00:34:12,977 --> 00:34:14,456
It got you here.

523
00:34:17,017 --> 00:34:18,216
Whe...?

524
00:34:18,577 --> 00:34:20,097
Where is it?

525
00:34:20,937 --> 00:34:24,176
This recording, I presume
that's what everyone's looking for.

526
00:34:42,377 --> 00:34:45,816
Your mother must've kept it
at Mark Viner's and taken it out

527
00:34:45,817 --> 00:34:47,257
right before she went to The Hague.

528
00:34:48,537 --> 00:34:51,537
- And then afterwards, I...
- You?

529
00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:55,616
You had it all along.

530
00:34:55,617 --> 00:34:58,657
...gave it to Alice, who has it now.

531
00:35:02,410 --> 00:35:03,850
Why?

532
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:06,588
Because we also made a promise, Kate,

533
00:35:07,428 --> 00:35:11,737
Eve, Eunice, Alice and I...

534
00:35:13,017 --> 00:35:15,298
...that no matter how
long we had to wait,

535
00:35:15,323 --> 00:35:18,176
one day we'd come back to it.

536
00:35:18,177 --> 00:35:19,976
Reopen the case.

537
00:35:19,977 --> 00:35:21,776
Tell the truth...

538
00:35:21,777 --> 00:35:23,388
...to the world,

539
00:35:24,268 --> 00:35:25,776
to you.

540
00:35:26,148 --> 00:35:27,416
And...

541
00:35:28,268 --> 00:35:30,536
...when Nyamoya was arrested,

542
00:35:30,537 --> 00:35:32,696
we thought the time had come.

543
00:35:32,697 --> 00:35:36,417
And then after Alice
was released in France...

544
00:35:38,050 --> 00:35:39,850
But we were wrong.

545
00:35:41,137 --> 00:35:43,028
It's today, Kate.

546
00:35:44,050 --> 00:35:45,169
It...

547
00:35:45,194 --> 00:35:46,465
...is now!

548
00:35:47,988 --> 00:35:50,788
Because if we do not publicly recognise

549
00:35:50,813 --> 00:35:53,548
each and every fragment of our past...

550
00:35:55,097 --> 00:35:57,217
...our story will never be complete.

551
00:35:59,097 --> 00:36:01,456
If we are to be truly united,

552
00:36:01,457 --> 00:36:04,456
truly reconciled as a country, as a city,

553
00:36:04,457 --> 00:36:06,548
in our villages, our streets,

554
00:36:07,017 --> 00:36:10,577
to our neighbours, to ourselves...

555
00:36:11,817 --> 00:36:16,297
...our story has to be complete.

556
00:36:17,417 --> 00:36:22,376
During my trial in France,
I met a brilliant young advocate.

557
00:36:22,377 --> 00:36:25,617
Her name is Kate Ashby.

558
00:36:26,577 --> 00:36:28,068
This is not her birth name.

559
00:36:28,697 --> 00:36:30,428
She was born here.

560
00:36:31,137 --> 00:36:32,910
And recently, having helped release me

561
00:36:32,935 --> 00:36:35,816
from an entirely fabricated prosecution,

562
00:36:35,817 --> 00:36:40,296
she has returned here to help us
in the extradition

563
00:36:40,297 --> 00:36:44,257
of yet another evil participant
in the genocide.

564
00:36:45,217 --> 00:36:46,468
To be sent here.

565
00:36:46,897 --> 00:36:49,216
To face justice here.

566
00:36:49,217 --> 00:36:51,737
Where it matters most.

567
00:36:53,790 --> 00:36:55,429
Here.

568
00:36:55,577 --> 00:36:59,937
And all that young woman wants
to see revealed is the truth.

569
00:37:01,017 --> 00:37:02,856
For us.

570
00:37:03,468 --> 00:37:06,416
So how can it be that,

571
00:37:06,708 --> 00:37:09,548
even though she does this,

572
00:37:09,937 --> 00:37:14,217
we cannot allow her
to know the truth about herself?

573
00:37:16,257 --> 00:37:20,056
But with the penal code
and constitution of our country

574
00:37:20,057 --> 00:37:22,136
as it now stands,

575
00:37:22,628 --> 00:37:24,376
I cannot tell you the truth

576
00:37:24,377 --> 00:37:26,576
without running the risk of arrest.

577
00:37:26,577 --> 00:37:28,536
Here. Now.

578
00:37:28,537 --> 00:37:30,896
Where it matters most.

579
00:37:31,188 --> 00:37:33,136
I cannot.

580
00:37:33,548 --> 00:37:37,856
Because to do so would be
to stand accused of sectarianism,

581
00:37:37,857 --> 00:37:40,657
divisionism, even inciting insurrection.

582
00:37:41,897 --> 00:37:43,497
So I'm not going to tell you.

583
00:37:44,904 --> 00:37:47,104
I am going to let others do it for me.

584
00:37:55,817 --> 00:38:01,577
In here is a recording
made in April 1997...

585
00:38:02,937 --> 00:38:08,816
...in Zaire, outside
a Rwandan Hutu refugee camp,

586
00:38:09,228 --> 00:38:11,056
near Kisangani,

587
00:38:11,868 --> 00:38:15,136
between an unnamed Congolese officer

588
00:38:15,137 --> 00:38:19,097
and his superior, a Commander Simon.

589
00:38:21,237 --> 00:38:23,796
I know exactly who this man is.

590
00:38:24,268 --> 00:38:27,268
I fought alongside him
during the liberation.

591
00:38:27,697 --> 00:38:29,416
He was a Rwandan.

592
00:38:29,417 --> 00:38:31,777
He was a national hero.

593
00:38:32,977 --> 00:38:34,376
And his name

594
00:38:34,377 --> 00:38:35,857
was Simon Nyamoya.

595
00:38:38,457 --> 00:38:40,416
In this recording,

596
00:38:40,417 --> 00:38:41,986
when Simon instructs the officer

597
00:38:42,011 --> 00:38:45,616
not to let any Westerners
back into the camp

598
00:38:45,617 --> 00:38:49,337
until it has been completely
dismantled...

599
00:38:50,537 --> 00:38:51,737
Please.

600
00:38:52,977 --> 00:38:54,457
I ask you.

601
00:38:56,868 --> 00:38:58,657
Please.

602
00:39:00,017 --> 00:39:03,896
Consider exactly what the word

603
00:39:03,897 --> 00:39:06,336
"dismantled" meant

604
00:39:06,337 --> 00:39:12,377
to 50,000 cholera-stricken refugees...

605
00:39:14,177 --> 00:39:19,617
...9,000 of whom... were just children.

606
00:41:47,737 --> 00:41:49,457
Guhh...

607
00:42:03,337 --> 00:42:04,857
Are you all right?

608
00:42:09,257 --> 00:42:11,016
That's a...

609
00:42:11,017 --> 00:42:12,457
That's a...

610
00:42:13,577 --> 00:42:16,617
- That's a big story.
- Yes, it is.

611
00:42:19,108 --> 00:42:20,896
Must have been hard to hold on to.

612
00:42:20,897 --> 00:42:22,817
Yes, it was.

613
00:42:25,577 --> 00:42:27,577
I wish you'd just told it to me.

614
00:42:29,956 --> 00:42:31,276
I did.

615
00:42:36,497 --> 00:42:37,657
No.

616
00:42:39,096 --> 00:42:40,576
You didn't.

617
00:42:52,537 --> 00:42:56,016
Yeah, I have a hard stop today,
folks, so, er,

618
00:42:56,017 --> 00:42:58,176
apologies, but I have to
wrap this up shortly.

619
00:42:58,177 --> 00:43:00,816
So, er... yeah, Matt.

620
00:43:00,817 --> 00:43:05,296
Comment on the arrest of Alice
Munezero on her arrival in Rwanda.

621
00:43:05,297 --> 00:43:07,816
Obviously we're very concerned.

622
00:43:07,817 --> 00:43:09,330
_

623
00:43:09,331 --> 00:43:12,008
_

624
00:43:12,568 --> 00:43:14,513
_

625
00:43:14,514 --> 00:43:16,514
_

626
00:43:16,977 --> 00:43:19,096
We believe she's under house arrest

627
00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:22,376
pending a specific charge
of inciting insurrection.

628
00:43:22,377 --> 00:43:25,816
But I think it's vital to remember
the cataclysmic events

629
00:43:25,817 --> 00:43:29,176
suffered by that country
in the not-too-distant past...

630
00:43:29,177 --> 00:43:31,736
...and the remarkable progress it's made

631
00:43:31,737 --> 00:43:34,616
over the almost quarter of a century
since.

632
00:43:34,617 --> 00:43:38,616
It is a, er, beacon of stability
not only within its borders,

633
00:43:38,617 --> 00:43:40,536
economically and socially,

634
00:43:40,537 --> 00:43:43,936
but in a region that is otherwise
prone to, er,

635
00:43:43,937 --> 00:43:45,216
severe convulsions.

636
00:43:45,217 --> 00:43:47,937
But this comes at too great a cost!

637
00:43:49,257 --> 00:43:51,505
A cost it seems
the international

638
00:43:51,517 --> 00:43:54,176
community is all too
willing to ignore.

639
00:43:54,177 --> 00:43:58,536
But it is very clear to us
that the Rwandan government

640
00:43:58,537 --> 00:44:01,216
is using its own poorly defined laws

641
00:44:01,217 --> 00:44:04,976
not to protect its nation from
divisionism and hate crime

642
00:44:04,977 --> 00:44:11,456
but to ensure that no-one, not even
one of their very own heroes,

643
00:44:11,457 --> 00:44:13,896
can ever call them to account.

644
00:44:13,897 --> 00:44:16,616
However, given her inability at this
point

645
00:44:16,617 --> 00:44:19,966
to substantiate on the specific
nature of her allegations,

646
00:44:19,967 --> 00:44:24,536
we are simply unable to gauge
the strength or weakness of her case

647
00:44:24,537 --> 00:44:27,266
and therefore the
justification or

648
00:44:27,278 --> 00:44:30,176
not of any action
taken against her.

649
00:44:30,177 --> 00:44:33,510
But could Alice Munezero's
arrest have a negative impact

650
00:44:33,511 --> 00:44:36,748
on the extradition proceedings
against Patrice Ganimana?

651
00:44:37,337 --> 00:44:40,976
We're saying we need to
keep a very close eye on things.

652
00:44:40,977 --> 00:44:43,456
A very close eye.

653
00:44:46,577 --> 00:44:47,977
Spare a minute?

654
00:44:49,977 --> 00:44:52,416
Just so as we're clear,

655
00:44:52,417 --> 00:44:54,576
we went to the US in '96.

656
00:44:54,577 --> 00:44:57,936
And the UN, and the UK.

657
00:44:57,937 --> 00:44:59,723
And we told them
that if they weren't going to

658
00:44:59,724 --> 00:45:02,416
do something about those camps, we would.

659
00:45:02,417 --> 00:45:04,172
And what did they do, your people?

660
00:45:04,173 --> 00:45:06,456
Nothing. So we had to,

661
00:45:06,457 --> 00:45:08,668
like they knew we would.

662
00:45:10,657 --> 00:45:12,496
Is that a confession, David?

663
00:45:12,497 --> 00:45:15,216
For the blind eyes of
the international community,

664
00:45:15,217 --> 00:45:17,896
that is a fact. And it's no secret.

665
00:45:18,428 --> 00:45:20,696
So am I going to be allowed
to represent her?

666
00:45:20,697 --> 00:45:23,856
You don't have to ask my permission,
Michael.

667
00:45:23,857 --> 00:45:27,856
It's enshrined within our law,
she can choose whoever she wants.

668
00:45:28,308 --> 00:45:31,056
- She's chosen me.
- Congratulations.

669
00:45:31,057 --> 00:45:33,816
Immune from prosecution
for representing her views?

670
00:45:34,308 --> 00:45:36,776
Also enshrined in law.

671
00:45:36,777 --> 00:45:38,696
Wasn't always.

672
00:45:38,697 --> 00:45:40,988
Is now.

673
00:45:47,897 --> 00:45:49,657
Runihura.

674
00:45:51,097 --> 00:45:53,803
My country is surrounded by tinder so dry

675
00:45:53,828 --> 00:45:55,936
even a hot fart would set it off,

676
00:45:56,468 --> 00:46:00,296
and all you and your playboy friends
want to do is strike a match.

677
00:46:00,297 --> 00:46:02,736
She's not trying to divide your country.

678
00:46:02,737 --> 00:46:05,016
We are all one nation now,

679
00:46:05,017 --> 00:46:08,536
and anyone who tries to pull us
apart is dividing our country.

680
00:46:08,988 --> 00:46:11,336
She's trying to unify it, and you
know it.

681
00:46:11,337 --> 00:46:13,576
How kind of you to inform me
of my thoughts.

682
00:46:13,577 --> 00:46:14,737
Please.

683
00:46:20,548 --> 00:46:22,376
The French were right.

684
00:46:22,668 --> 00:46:24,536
You're only using those laws

685
00:46:24,537 --> 00:46:26,816
to make sure that no-one can ever
hold you to account.

686
00:46:27,188 --> 00:46:28,376
Even her.

687
00:46:28,377 --> 00:46:30,992
The way you see
it, any criticism

688
00:46:31,004 --> 00:46:33,708
of your government
is divisionist.

689
00:46:34,297 --> 00:46:37,776
This isn't about reconciliation,
it's about power.

690
00:46:37,777 --> 00:46:39,536
And your need to keep it.

691
00:46:39,537 --> 00:46:43,576
And did you ever consider that
maybe my country wants us to?

692
00:46:44,308 --> 00:46:46,926
They don't care that some Tutsi girl

693
00:46:46,927 --> 00:46:49,188
who turned out to be a Hutu
has tried to help us out.

694
00:46:49,930 --> 00:46:52,769
They don't want to look back at any
of it.

695
00:46:52,794 --> 00:46:56,873
We are all Rwandans now
and we just look forward.

696
00:46:56,977 --> 00:46:59,896
1.5 million people lifted out of poverty,

697
00:46:59,897 --> 00:47:01,376
7% growth per annum,

698
00:47:01,377 --> 00:47:05,456
3% unemployment,
health, education, communication.

699
00:47:05,828 --> 00:47:08,096
What happens when all those
economic figures head south?

700
00:47:08,097 --> 00:47:09,731
They're going to care then.

701
00:47:09,732 --> 00:47:11,861
Not about some Western-backed egoist

702
00:47:11,862 --> 00:47:14,296
who is just using the whole issue
as an excuse.

703
00:47:14,297 --> 00:47:15,696
For what?

704
00:47:15,697 --> 00:47:18,308
To destroy what she knows
she can never have.

705
00:47:20,257 --> 00:47:21,336
Which is?

706
00:47:21,788 --> 00:47:23,617
Love, Michael.

707
00:47:25,250 --> 00:47:26,649
Love!

708
00:47:26,674 --> 00:47:29,354
What?

709
00:47:32,017 --> 00:47:33,576
What?

710
00:47:33,988 --> 00:47:35,936
You think this is all about justice?

711
00:47:36,348 --> 00:47:38,617
It's so much more basic than that.

712
00:47:39,617 --> 00:47:42,776
May I tell you a story?
Is that really a question?

713
00:47:43,308 --> 00:47:44,936
You are right.

714
00:47:45,348 --> 00:47:48,296
So, there was this little bird,

715
00:47:48,908 --> 00:47:52,176
a drongo chick, a forest bird.

716
00:47:52,177 --> 00:47:55,136
And one day, suddenly, into her nest,

717
00:47:55,137 --> 00:47:57,897
a new chick arrived, a cuckoo.

718
00:47:58,977 --> 00:48:01,297
You understand what happens
to the drongo.

719
00:48:04,908 --> 00:48:07,256
But she will not die.

720
00:48:07,257 --> 00:48:10,456
The hunger for revenge
will keep her strong.

721
00:48:10,457 --> 00:48:13,176
And she will search the forest floor
far and wide

722
00:48:13,177 --> 00:48:15,216
until she finds what it is
she's looking for.

723
00:48:15,828 --> 00:48:19,896
A caterpillar. The most poisonous
caterpillar in all the world.

724
00:48:19,897 --> 00:48:22,976
And then, having placed it tenderly
in her beak,

725
00:48:22,977 --> 00:48:26,989
she will claw her way back up that
tree, back into that nest,

726
00:48:26,990 --> 00:48:29,376
where finally, triumphantly,

727
00:48:29,377 --> 00:48:32,456
she will feed this deadly grub
to her foundling sister

728
00:48:32,457 --> 00:48:35,280
so that then, once
more, it will be our

729
00:48:35,292 --> 00:48:38,057
little drongo who is
loved as she was.

730
00:48:39,297 --> 00:48:41,137
As she deserves to be again.

731
00:48:42,337 --> 00:48:43,377
Now...

732
00:48:44,537 --> 00:48:47,576
...who do you suppose is who
in my little story?

733
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:49,790
I think I can guess.

734
00:48:50,777 --> 00:48:52,097
Yes.

735
00:48:53,297 --> 00:48:55,016
There is no tape, Michael.

736
00:48:55,017 --> 00:48:56,096
I saw it.

737
00:48:56,097 --> 00:48:58,016
But did you listen to it?

738
00:48:58,017 --> 00:48:59,616
It's in Kinyarwanda.

739
00:48:59,617 --> 00:49:01,257
You speak Kinyarwanda?

740
00:49:02,217 --> 00:49:04,736
Even if you could,
how do you know it wasn't a fake?

741
00:49:04,737 --> 00:49:07,576
Because I trust the person
who recorded it.

742
00:49:07,857 --> 00:49:10,337
You trust the little drongo?

743
00:49:11,177 --> 00:49:12,616
We also have a witness.

744
00:49:12,617 --> 00:49:16,816
Do you? Or is that just something
else you want to believe?

745
00:49:17,188 --> 00:49:18,376
No.

746
00:49:18,377 --> 00:49:20,016
Why not?

747
00:49:20,017 --> 00:49:21,576
Because I'd know it.

748
00:49:21,577 --> 00:49:24,377
Because you would sense it?

749
00:49:25,457 --> 00:49:28,887
Michael Ennis, the man
who can smell the truth

750
00:49:28,912 --> 00:49:31,096
like a pig finds truffles.

751
00:49:31,097 --> 00:49:33,343
And yet there was something else

752
00:49:33,355 --> 00:49:35,896
in my story, something
you missed.

753
00:49:35,897 --> 00:49:37,936
Yeah?

754
00:49:38,588 --> 00:49:39,777
You.

755
00:49:41,337 --> 00:49:43,256
I'm not in your story.

756
00:49:43,257 --> 00:49:44,857
But you were.

757
00:49:45,937 --> 00:49:48,656
You are the little caterpillar, Michael.

758
00:49:49,308 --> 00:49:51,857
The most poisonous caterpillar
in all the world.

759
00:49:53,697 --> 00:49:56,016
Yeah? Well, you better watch out.

760
00:49:56,017 --> 00:49:57,057
Why?

761
00:49:58,097 --> 00:49:59,857
You are the one who ends up getting
eaten.

762
00:50:11,737 --> 00:50:14,376
Eunice. You're not going to believe this.

763
00:50:14,377 --> 00:50:16,376
I don't have cancer!

764
00:50:16,377 --> 00:50:18,136
That's great, Eunice!

765
00:50:18,137 --> 00:50:21,296
Big fucker, but they just whipped it
out laparoscopically.

766
00:50:21,297 --> 00:50:22,310
Hot dog!

767
00:50:22,311 --> 00:50:25,576
Kinda like sucking Donald Trump's
head out of a keyhole.

768
00:50:26,817 --> 00:50:28,535
So, where are we?

769
00:50:28,536 --> 00:50:31,456
Well, effectively,
they're both under house arrest

770
00:50:31,457 --> 00:50:34,022
and I'm just waiting
for my application

771
00:50:34,034 --> 00:50:36,096
to the Rwandan Bar Association.

772
00:50:36,097 --> 00:50:37,256
And Kate?

773
00:50:37,257 --> 00:50:38,976
But she knows?

774
00:50:38,977 --> 00:50:40,016
Yeah.

775
00:50:40,017 --> 00:50:42,816
All right. We're right where we
should be.

776
00:50:42,817 --> 00:50:44,136
Not quite.

777
00:50:44,416 --> 00:50:45,496
How so?

778
00:50:46,897 --> 00:50:48,176
Are you sitting down?

779
00:50:48,177 --> 00:50:50,016
I'm bouncing off the walls here, baby.

780
00:50:50,017 --> 00:50:51,297
Sit down.

781
00:50:56,817 --> 00:50:58,576
We should have made more copies.

782
00:50:58,868 --> 00:51:00,696
We agreed not to.

783
00:51:00,697 --> 00:51:03,417
No, we agreed to Alice telling us not to.

784
00:51:04,697 --> 00:51:06,016
You think David had a point?

785
00:51:06,017 --> 00:51:08,016
No. It doesn't matter.

786
00:51:08,017 --> 00:51:09,296
We've still got me.

787
00:51:09,297 --> 00:51:12,936
Now things are different.

788
00:51:12,937 --> 00:51:14,749
How?

789
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:19,176
Well, you didn't actually
hear the conversation.

790
00:51:19,423 --> 00:51:20,943
But I did.

791
00:51:21,937 --> 00:51:24,096
- What?
- I did hear it.

792
00:51:24,097 --> 00:51:26,976
It was translated for me
right then and there.

793
00:51:26,977 --> 00:51:30,337
Obviously because we were pushing
to get back in the camp.

794
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:33,430
Did you, Eunice?

795
00:51:34,897 --> 00:51:36,217
Did you really?

796
00:51:37,377 --> 00:51:38,657
Sure I did.

797
00:51:39,697 --> 00:51:42,216
And there's no way they can blow
that out of court.

798
00:51:43,817 --> 00:51:45,536
That's the other thing.

799
00:51:45,537 --> 00:51:47,696
- What?
- Kate was right.

800
00:51:47,697 --> 00:51:50,376
There's a problem with the defence
funding over there.

801
00:51:50,377 --> 00:51:53,376
My God, Mikey,
you're going pro bono on this.

802
00:51:53,377 --> 00:51:55,896
No, for the investigative team.

803
00:51:56,268 --> 00:52:00,056
It seems there's just about enough
for gas to get us to the border

804
00:52:00,057 --> 00:52:02,696
- and then we're on our own.
- Well, that's not such a problem.

805
00:52:02,697 --> 00:52:04,016
And why is that?

806
00:52:04,017 --> 00:52:06,736
I represent the State Department,
Michael.

807
00:52:06,737 --> 00:52:09,896
We've got a pretty big tool box
at our disposal, believe me.

808
00:52:09,897 --> 00:52:12,949
Well, you're gonna need a team
in the DRC ASAP.

809
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:14,776
We need those grave sites, Eunice.

810
00:52:14,777 --> 00:52:16,176
And we're gonna get it.

811
00:52:16,177 --> 00:52:19,577
I got a new lease on life, baby,
and I'm gonna use it!

812
00:52:30,737 --> 00:52:32,428
Hey, Eunice.

813
00:52:33,817 --> 00:52:34,937
Can I speak with him?

814
00:52:36,097 --> 00:52:37,976
Double bogey on the ninth.

815
00:52:38,468 --> 00:52:41,896
- It's pretty ugly.
- I need to speak to him.

816
00:52:42,348 --> 00:52:44,497
You really think?

817
00:52:45,497 --> 00:52:47,216
You can't stand me down.

818
00:52:47,217 --> 00:52:49,856
Extended leave of absence, come on.

819
00:52:50,148 --> 00:52:52,336
At least this way you get to keep
your health insurance.

820
00:52:52,337 --> 00:52:54,296
- But not my job.
- Er, no.

821
00:52:54,297 --> 00:52:56,057
No, that's going to someone else now.

822
00:52:57,577 --> 00:52:59,976
- Because I did my civic duty?
- You think maybe

823
00:52:59,977 --> 00:53:02,216
- it's because of your diet?
- What?

824
00:53:02,217 --> 00:53:04,016
You got hypoxia or something?

825
00:53:04,468 --> 00:53:05,985
Maybe you should have
spent a little bit

826
00:53:05,997 --> 00:53:07,376
more time with your
feet in the air.

827
00:53:07,868 --> 00:53:09,216
I had to give evidence.

828
00:53:09,217 --> 00:53:10,936
You should have cleared it with us first.

829
00:53:10,937 --> 00:53:13,336
- There was no time.
- You should have made some.

830
00:53:13,337 --> 00:53:15,016
I appeared as a private citizen.

831
00:53:15,017 --> 00:53:17,816
Not when you are in public office,
you don't.

832
00:53:18,363 --> 00:53:19,963
Ever.

833
00:53:21,977 --> 00:53:24,416
You gotta let that team go into the DRC.

834
00:53:24,417 --> 00:53:27,296
Yeah, no, actually,
that was the final straw.

835
00:53:27,788 --> 00:53:32,136
Now, we don't get to use the
department as our own private army.

836
00:53:32,137 --> 00:53:35,537
Jesus, Eunice,
you're not Pablo fucking Escobar!

837
00:53:37,904 --> 00:53:39,504
It was...

838
00:53:40,617 --> 00:53:42,868
It was a bad thing.

839
00:53:43,423 --> 00:53:44,862
I know.

840
00:53:44,977 --> 00:53:46,016
I saw it.

841
00:53:46,348 --> 00:53:48,296
Funny you never thought
to mention it before.

842
00:53:48,297 --> 00:53:50,616
No-one did. No-one could.

843
00:53:50,617 --> 00:53:52,056
Isn't that the point?

844
00:53:52,057 --> 00:53:53,416
So why now?

845
00:53:53,417 --> 00:53:55,456
I was called to give evidence. I gave it.

846
00:53:55,457 --> 00:53:58,416
But weirdly, at exactly the same time

847
00:53:58,417 --> 00:54:01,856
as this Alice Munezero
says the same thing.

848
00:54:02,108 --> 00:54:03,576
You tip her off, Eunice?

849
00:54:03,577 --> 00:54:06,217
Or have you always been working together?

850
00:54:08,857 --> 00:54:10,136
Yeah.

851
00:54:10,137 --> 00:54:12,856
Yeah, if I were you,
I'd take the Fifth on that as well.

852
00:54:12,857 --> 00:54:14,656
She deserves our help.

853
00:54:14,657 --> 00:54:17,296
Regime change?
How's that working out for us?

854
00:54:17,297 --> 00:54:18,856
That's not what she wants.

855
00:54:18,857 --> 00:54:21,976
Inciting insurrection,
divisionism, sectarianism.

856
00:54:22,428 --> 00:54:24,678
It doesn't feel
like she's looking

857
00:54:24,690 --> 00:54:27,016
for an extension
on Sunday trading.

858
00:54:27,017 --> 00:54:30,816
And why has she been charged, Scott?

859
00:54:31,368 --> 00:54:34,536
At all? Just because she spoke the truth?

860
00:54:34,868 --> 00:54:37,304
And this from a
government that gets

861
00:54:37,316 --> 00:54:39,897
almost 30% of its
expenditure from us?

862
00:54:43,297 --> 00:54:44,937
Well, what does she want?

863
00:54:47,508 --> 00:54:49,576
The removal of two articles
from the penal code

864
00:54:49,577 --> 00:54:51,731
and the tightening
of the Constitution

865
00:54:51,743 --> 00:54:53,576
on Hate Crime, so her government

866
00:54:53,577 --> 00:54:55,176
can no longer use them as tools for

867
00:54:55,177 --> 00:54:57,817
the reduction of political space
and accountability.

868
00:55:00,457 --> 00:55:02,256
Snappy slogan.

869
00:55:02,708 --> 00:55:06,816
It's just law, Scott,
just a change in the law.

870
00:55:06,817 --> 00:55:09,096
That's it, that's all she wants.

871
00:55:09,097 --> 00:55:12,016
Everything else stays the same.
Mundanzi, the lot.

872
00:55:12,017 --> 00:55:14,897
Jesus, Eunice,
what the fuck were you thinking?

873
00:55:18,097 --> 00:55:21,457
Well, I hope he's birdied the tenth.

874
00:55:22,537 --> 00:55:24,256
I'll find those graves.

875
00:55:24,257 --> 00:55:25,537
Sure you will.

876
00:55:26,537 --> 00:55:27,737
You'll need a shovel.

877
00:55:45,897 --> 00:55:48,456
What are we gonna do about Eunice
Clayton and her mass graves?

878
00:55:48,457 --> 00:55:51,136
Bit "Mighty Whitey", wouldn't you say?

879
00:55:51,137 --> 00:55:53,616
- Except she's black.
- Except she's not African.

880
00:55:53,617 --> 00:55:56,456
We've got a president who makes up
names for African countries.

881
00:55:57,183 --> 00:55:58,503
Jane.

882
00:55:58,977 --> 00:56:03,056
How many people, you think,
could pick out the DRC on a map?

883
00:56:03,057 --> 00:56:05,268
Or Rwanda? Precisely?

884
00:56:06,217 --> 00:56:07,816
It doesn't mean we shouldn't find out.

885
00:56:07,817 --> 00:56:09,336
It does if no-one cares.

886
00:56:09,337 --> 00:56:11,496
We peddle stuff no-one cares about,

887
00:56:11,497 --> 00:56:14,136
when we try and peddle
stuff they should, no-one will.

888
00:56:14,137 --> 00:56:16,536
How many problems
we got out there already?

889
00:56:16,537 --> 00:56:20,976
Syria, Korea, Israel, Ukraine, Yemen.

890
00:56:20,977 --> 00:56:22,976
How many we got sitting in our own den?

891
00:56:22,977 --> 00:56:25,456
Crime, inequality, political corruption?

892
00:56:25,457 --> 00:56:28,576
Stuff our people really do
need to know about right now.

893
00:56:28,577 --> 00:56:31,256
- We're talking about mass graves.
- We certainly would be,

894
00:56:31,257 --> 00:56:33,936
if she had found them in Minnesota.

895
00:56:34,388 --> 00:56:35,936
No.

896
00:56:35,937 --> 00:56:38,656
Krupke, we got troubles of our own.

897
00:56:39,428 --> 00:56:41,777
That one they're going to have
to fix for themselves.

898
00:57:33,577 --> 00:57:36,392
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899
00:57:36,393 --> 00:57:38,189
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900
00:57:38,190 --> 00:57:40,388
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901
00:57:41,184 --> 00:57:43,828
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902
00:57:43,861 --> 00:57:45,481
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903
00:57:45,482 --> 00:57:47,896
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904
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,520
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