1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,800 Are you OK there, sir? 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,599 I... I'm just, er... 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,119 Getting a feel for the place. 4 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:12,248 The Nyamoya situation? 5 00:00:12,249 --> 00:00:15,261 Godwin Hall. I'm due in here... 6 00:00:15,262 --> 00:00:17,195 1430 hours, Thursday. 7 00:00:17,196 --> 00:00:19,080 Status, conference. 8 00:00:19,833 --> 00:00:22,113 Defence there. 9 00:00:23,993 --> 00:00:26,192 Prosecution here. 10 00:00:26,193 --> 00:00:27,793 Interpreters. 11 00:00:30,580 --> 00:00:31,913 Press. 12 00:00:36,153 --> 00:00:38,992 And where you are? 13 00:00:38,993 --> 00:00:40,833 Public gallery. 14 00:00:42,806 --> 00:00:45,326 - Right in here with us? - As they should be. 15 00:00:45,513 --> 00:00:47,032 But the glass is soundproof, 16 00:00:47,033 --> 00:00:48,683 so if the session goes in camera, 17 00:00:48,708 --> 00:00:50,017 it just gets switched off. 18 00:00:51,940 --> 00:00:53,473 It's impressive, isn't it? 19 00:01:00,673 --> 00:01:03,032 It depends who wins. 20 00:01:03,033 --> 00:01:04,734 This programme contains some violent 21 00:01:04,746 --> 00:01:06,273 scenes and some strong language. 22 00:01:36,393 --> 00:01:38,352 Un, deux, trois, 23 00:01:38,353 --> 00:01:40,512 quatre, cinq, six, 24 00:01:40,513 --> 00:01:42,712 sept, huit, neuf, 25 00:01:42,713 --> 00:01:45,553 dix, onze, douze. 26 00:01:55,580 --> 00:01:57,073 Arretez. 27 00:01:58,873 --> 00:02:00,393 On est pret. 28 00:03:08,683 --> 00:03:13,236 Synced & corrected by -robtor- www.addic7ed.com 29 00:03:20,313 --> 00:03:21,993 All rise. 30 00:03:32,273 --> 00:03:35,353 The International Criminal Court is now in session. 31 00:03:35,866 --> 00:03:37,666 Please be seated. 32 00:03:44,419 --> 00:03:46,219 Good afternoon, everyone. 33 00:03:57,233 --> 00:03:58,713 Are you OK there, madam? 34 00:04:02,713 --> 00:04:05,313 It's OK. You come with me. It's OK. 35 00:04:12,553 --> 00:04:15,152 Because of this, I ask the parties that they address the court 36 00:04:15,153 --> 00:04:17,572 in a concise and coherent manner, 37 00:04:17,573 --> 00:04:21,313 and that they refrain from delving into unrelated matters. 38 00:04:42,313 --> 00:04:45,394 And it is in the light of this efficiency that I wish to raise, 39 00:04:45,395 --> 00:04:47,312 at this earliest of opportunities, 40 00:04:47,313 --> 00:04:48,986 our intention to submit evidence 41 00:04:49,011 --> 00:04:50,712 of an incident which took place 42 00:04:50,713 --> 00:04:53,038 outside of the timescale permitted 43 00:04:53,063 --> 00:04:54,632 by the court's mandate. 44 00:04:54,633 --> 00:04:55,872 Madame President. 45 00:04:55,873 --> 00:04:57,936 Ms Ashby, you are aware that the 46 00:04:57,961 --> 00:05:00,192 DRC signature to the Rome Statute 47 00:05:00,193 --> 00:05:02,465 in 2002 invalidates submission 48 00:05:02,490 --> 00:05:05,192 of any incidents before this time? 49 00:05:05,193 --> 00:05:07,390 Thank you, Madame President. We are, 50 00:05:07,402 --> 00:05:09,552 of course, aware of this limitation 51 00:05:09,553 --> 00:05:11,173 and we do not seek to include the 52 00:05:11,198 --> 00:05:12,792 submission within the indictment. 53 00:05:12,793 --> 00:05:14,720 However, we feel it is vitally 54 00:05:14,745 --> 00:05:16,712 important for us to establish 55 00:05:16,713 --> 00:05:19,792 a pattern of persistent conduct by the accused 56 00:05:19,793 --> 00:05:22,632 which in and of itself, we believe presents 57 00:05:22,633 --> 00:05:24,894 a significant contribution to the 58 00:05:24,906 --> 00:05:27,312 specific articles of the indictment 59 00:05:27,313 --> 00:05:29,193 for which the accused is standing trial. 60 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,720 Our intent is to reveal a course of prior conduct 61 00:05:33,721 --> 00:05:38,512 to establish a predisposition of character, Madame President. 62 00:05:38,513 --> 00:05:39,672 Thank you, Ms Ashby. 63 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:40,966 And thank you for bringing this 64 00:05:40,991 --> 00:05:42,175 to my attention so promptly 65 00:05:42,176 --> 00:05:45,495 as it relates to Article 613b of the Rome Statute. 66 00:05:46,589 --> 00:05:48,267 May I be clear the incident to which 67 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,832 you wish to refer does not appear 68 00:05:49,833 --> 00:05:52,792 in any documentation presently available to the court? 69 00:05:52,793 --> 00:05:54,712 - That is correct, Madame President. - Sh! 70 00:05:54,713 --> 00:05:57,672 This incident took place outside of the court's mandate 71 00:05:57,673 --> 00:05:59,295 and has therefore not been included 72 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,512 in any warrants of arrest. 73 00:06:00,513 --> 00:06:03,232 We're only intent on its inclusion at this time 74 00:06:03,233 --> 00:06:05,233 for the aforementioned reasons. 75 00:06:07,233 --> 00:06:08,713 Mr Zand? 76 00:06:09,940 --> 00:06:11,552 Thank you, Madame President. 77 00:06:11,553 --> 00:06:13,329 I hesitate to strike out of hand 78 00:06:13,341 --> 00:06:15,352 any submission which may, in fact, 79 00:06:15,353 --> 00:06:17,393 prove to be of benefit to my client, 80 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:19,916 therefore, we simply cannot respond 81 00:06:19,917 --> 00:06:23,352 until we've been made fully aware of the submission. 82 00:06:23,353 --> 00:06:26,672 Ms Ashby, when may the details of your proposed submission 83 00:06:26,673 --> 00:06:28,472 be made available to the court? 84 00:06:28,473 --> 00:06:30,552 Madame President, we have the submission. 85 00:06:30,553 --> 00:06:33,352 And we're ready to make copies of the recording, 86 00:06:33,353 --> 00:06:34,913 at Your Honour's request. 87 00:06:35,340 --> 00:06:36,873 Thank you, Ms Ashby. 88 00:06:37,172 --> 00:06:38,612 One moment, please. 89 00:07:05,073 --> 00:07:08,432 Please make copies of your submissions available to the court. 90 00:07:08,433 --> 00:07:10,826 And I am now closing the hearing for 91 00:07:10,838 --> 00:07:13,113 me to consider the matter further. 92 00:07:14,826 --> 00:07:16,266 All rise. 93 00:07:37,033 --> 00:07:38,633 What incident? 94 00:07:44,513 --> 00:07:47,015 The one he thought we'd all forget. 95 00:07:58,083 --> 00:07:59,142 _ 96 00:07:59,143 --> 00:08:00,255 _ 97 00:08:00,256 --> 00:08:01,615 _ 98 00:08:01,616 --> 00:08:03,122 _ 99 00:08:03,123 --> 00:08:05,123 _ 100 00:08:05,575 --> 00:08:07,171 _ 101 00:08:07,172 --> 00:08:09,172 _ 102 00:08:53,313 --> 00:08:54,953 It doesn't matter what you say. 103 00:08:56,153 --> 00:08:57,873 They already know. 104 00:08:58,460 --> 00:09:00,832 My daughter doesn't, and she deserves... 105 00:09:04,153 --> 00:09:06,993 Guard! 106 00:09:10,873 --> 00:09:12,593 No, no, no! 107 00:11:20,793 --> 00:11:22,113 What? 108 00:11:32,273 --> 00:11:34,233 We leave the wedding ring on. 109 00:11:38,026 --> 00:11:39,666 No, she wasn't married. 110 00:11:42,113 --> 00:11:46,913 It was, um... It was like an engagement. 111 00:11:47,219 --> 00:11:48,979 Has he been informed? 112 00:11:51,306 --> 00:11:52,826 He's dead. 113 00:11:55,279 --> 00:11:56,919 A long time ago. 114 00:12:35,393 --> 00:12:36,873 It's foul. 115 00:12:38,593 --> 00:12:44,420 But the shock of it might, you know... help. 116 00:12:55,912 --> 00:12:57,872 We argued. 117 00:13:01,633 --> 00:13:03,033 Before she left. 118 00:13:08,113 --> 00:13:09,953 I left her a message. 119 00:13:14,513 --> 00:13:16,340 She, she didn't... 120 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,160 It doesn't matter. 121 00:13:19,993 --> 00:13:21,753 She already knew. 122 00:13:27,113 --> 00:13:29,392 The presence of the killer's motorcycle 123 00:13:29,393 --> 00:13:30,992 abandoned at this second crime scene 124 00:13:30,993 --> 00:13:34,257 appears to bear all the hallmarks of a classic clean-up job. 125 00:13:34,258 --> 00:13:36,792 Of the three men found shot dead in the vehicle, 126 00:13:36,793 --> 00:13:40,184 two had apparently left the ICC only minutes before. 127 00:13:40,185 --> 00:13:42,432 There is speculation that, for whatever reason, 128 00:13:42,433 --> 00:13:45,832 these men had aborted an initial assassination attempt, 129 00:13:45,833 --> 00:13:47,511 leaving a fourth member of the cell 130 00:13:47,523 --> 00:13:49,072 disguised as a highway patrolman 131 00:13:49,073 --> 00:13:52,112 to execute a terrifyingly-successful plan B. 132 00:13:52,113 --> 00:13:55,392 At this time, the identity of these three men and their killer 133 00:13:55,393 --> 00:13:56,992 remains a complete mystery. 134 00:13:56,993 --> 00:13:59,032 Initial suspicions of a revenge attack 135 00:13:59,033 --> 00:14:00,872 carried out against Simon Nyamoya 136 00:14:00,873 --> 00:14:02,432 by Hutu extremist factions, 137 00:14:02,433 --> 00:14:04,952 with whom he had fought a decade-long war 138 00:14:04,953 --> 00:14:08,672 in the Congolese forest have yet to be confirmed or denied. 139 00:14:08,673 --> 00:14:10,803 Back at home, the United States President... 140 00:14:10,828 --> 00:14:13,273 Yes. 141 00:14:13,298 --> 00:14:15,192 I have a General Munezero, Rwandan Government. 142 00:14:15,193 --> 00:14:16,860 Put her through. 143 00:14:17,473 --> 00:14:19,361 - Eunice? - Alice. 144 00:14:19,362 --> 00:14:20,921 Are you going to the funeral? 145 00:14:20,922 --> 00:14:22,232 Yes, I will be. 146 00:14:22,233 --> 00:14:23,872 Then we should meet there. 147 00:14:23,873 --> 00:14:25,753 Yes, we should. 148 00:14:32,513 --> 00:14:33,752 General Munezero. 149 00:14:33,753 --> 00:14:36,592 I am a civilian now. Member of Parliament. 150 00:14:36,593 --> 00:14:39,792 Of course. My name's Charlie Barratt, I work with the FCO. 151 00:14:39,793 --> 00:14:42,392 - Welcome to the UK. - Thank you. 152 00:14:42,393 --> 00:14:44,432 I'm here to speed you through Immigration. 153 00:14:44,433 --> 00:14:46,272 Will it take long? 154 00:14:46,273 --> 00:14:49,040 Feet won't touch the ground. Please. 155 00:15:06,313 --> 00:15:09,312 What if they switched it all off? 156 00:15:09,313 --> 00:15:10,872 Nothing. 157 00:15:10,873 --> 00:15:12,353 She's breathing for herself. 158 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:15,740 This is just to monitor. 159 00:15:16,672 --> 00:15:18,233 Mikey. 160 00:15:18,832 --> 00:15:20,352 It's fine. 161 00:15:20,713 --> 00:15:22,273 It's what it is. 162 00:15:26,032 --> 00:15:27,672 Do you think Eve was targeted? 163 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:30,752 Why? Who knew? 164 00:15:30,753 --> 00:15:33,472 - She hadn't said anything yet. - She didn't have a chance. 165 00:15:33,473 --> 00:15:36,473 They were aiming for Nyamoya. Had to be. 166 00:15:42,353 --> 00:15:46,752 So... is it all set up? 167 00:15:46,753 --> 00:15:50,032 Yeah. Just got to make a call. 168 00:15:50,033 --> 00:15:52,660 - Good. - Just not sure that I should. 169 00:15:53,913 --> 00:15:55,512 Why? 170 00:15:55,513 --> 00:16:00,153 Well, the way Eve was going to do it, it felt clean. 171 00:16:00,412 --> 00:16:04,212 - This way... - Is the only one we have left. 172 00:16:08,313 --> 00:16:10,193 Are you sure you want to do this? 173 00:16:10,725 --> 00:16:13,005 Put yourself in the crosshairs? 174 00:16:15,593 --> 00:16:17,233 Mikey. 175 00:16:18,313 --> 00:16:20,113 They are already on me. 176 00:16:26,953 --> 00:16:28,633 Hi, fellas. 177 00:16:29,906 --> 00:16:31,580 Something up? 178 00:16:33,273 --> 00:16:36,232 I'm so sorry. It's because of my job. 179 00:16:36,233 --> 00:16:38,512 Alice is with the Rwandan Government. 180 00:16:38,513 --> 00:16:39,952 She's here for the funeral. 181 00:16:39,953 --> 00:16:42,433 Right. And, er... 182 00:16:43,913 --> 00:16:46,112 We go way back. What is it? 183 00:16:46,113 --> 00:16:50,752 Er... I came here for officer training. When was that? 184 00:16:50,753 --> 00:16:52,193 Must be late '80s. 185 00:16:53,393 --> 00:16:55,604 Over 30 years ago. 186 00:16:55,605 --> 00:16:56,964 My God, don't. 187 00:16:56,965 --> 00:16:58,832 And I gave you a lecture on...? 188 00:16:58,833 --> 00:17:00,952 Geneva Convention. 189 00:17:00,953 --> 00:17:02,672 You certainly took it to heart. 190 00:17:02,673 --> 00:17:05,387 Single most important rule book in the theatre of war. 191 00:17:05,388 --> 00:17:08,833 If only they could keep it to 90 minutes with a drinks interval. 192 00:17:10,193 --> 00:17:12,832 Her lot brought the Rwandan genocide to an end. 193 00:17:12,833 --> 00:17:15,193 Well, OK. 194 00:17:16,113 --> 00:17:18,353 I'm a book illustrator. 195 00:17:18,859 --> 00:17:21,019 And Jenny's...? 196 00:17:22,593 --> 00:17:26,473 Well, companion, I guess, is what you'd say at our age. 197 00:17:28,206 --> 00:17:30,366 Companion. 198 00:17:31,043 --> 00:17:34,592 Please, tell her I said hello. 199 00:17:34,593 --> 00:17:36,633 Yeah, sure. 200 00:17:37,140 --> 00:17:41,152 I remember her as a very beautiful woman. 201 00:17:41,153 --> 00:17:43,153 Yeah? She still is. 202 00:17:44,473 --> 00:17:46,353 Like her daughter. 203 00:17:49,139 --> 00:17:53,700 So... I will see you at the funeral. 204 00:17:57,553 --> 00:17:59,273 They're both gone now, Mikey. 205 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:01,393 We carry on. 206 00:18:01,993 --> 00:18:03,433 We must. 207 00:18:04,373 --> 00:18:05,613 For them. 208 00:18:08,952 --> 00:18:10,432 So nice to meet you. 209 00:18:18,753 --> 00:18:20,912 Maybe not say hello from her. 210 00:18:20,913 --> 00:18:22,392 I figured. 211 00:18:22,393 --> 00:18:23,952 Are you still...? 212 00:18:23,953 --> 00:18:26,673 No, no, no, no. Long time ago. 213 00:18:28,153 --> 00:18:30,592 Thanks so much for doing this. 214 00:18:30,593 --> 00:18:33,273 It's just until Jenny can do it for herself. 215 00:18:33,700 --> 00:18:35,232 Wasn't her fault. 216 00:18:35,233 --> 00:18:38,312 It's always a mother's fault, Michael. 217 00:18:38,313 --> 00:18:39,753 Always. 218 00:18:50,973 --> 00:18:54,140 Eve always insisted she was my mother. 219 00:18:55,419 --> 00:18:56,819 But she wasn't. 220 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:00,873 She was the woman who rescued me. 221 00:19:01,260 --> 00:19:03,712 And actually, she didn't do that bit either. 222 00:19:03,713 --> 00:19:04,992 Not the actual rescuing. 223 00:19:04,993 --> 00:19:07,873 That was done by a man named Ed Holt. 224 00:19:08,620 --> 00:19:10,393 Some of you here will remember him. 225 00:19:10,820 --> 00:19:12,112 I don't. 226 00:19:12,113 --> 00:19:14,913 I don't remember any of it. Just what I'm told. 227 00:19:15,993 --> 00:19:18,953 But that's OK because Eve told me everything. 228 00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:22,552 Ed was her partner, fiance, 229 00:19:22,553 --> 00:19:25,592 and they were both working in Rwanda 230 00:19:25,593 --> 00:19:27,513 just after the genocide. 231 00:19:27,940 --> 00:19:30,192 She was doing groundwork for the tribunals 232 00:19:30,193 --> 00:19:32,753 and he was on an aid assessment. 233 00:19:33,879 --> 00:19:36,399 And one day, he found me. 234 00:19:37,666 --> 00:19:39,146 In an orphanage. 235 00:19:39,953 --> 00:19:42,112 Wounds that were killing me. 236 00:19:42,113 --> 00:19:46,180 I don't know why he chose me... 237 00:19:47,559 --> 00:19:49,159 ...just that he did. 238 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:53,233 And a week later, he was dead. 239 00:19:54,572 --> 00:19:57,332 Killed in a plane crash delivering aid to the DRC. 240 00:20:00,513 --> 00:20:03,832 Eve always said that I was the last thing he gave her. 241 00:20:03,833 --> 00:20:07,116 And that's why she treasured me ever since. 242 00:20:07,117 --> 00:20:11,273 Which can't have been easy because I was completely bust. 243 00:20:12,913 --> 00:20:14,856 Not just here, but here, 244 00:20:14,857 --> 00:20:18,473 and I was... I was never going to get fixed. 245 00:20:19,859 --> 00:20:21,259 But... 246 00:20:23,206 --> 00:20:25,246 ...that I'm standing here today... 247 00:20:26,773 --> 00:20:30,653 ...looking anything like a human, it's because of her. 248 00:20:33,999 --> 00:20:35,759 Eve Ashby. 249 00:20:37,093 --> 00:20:39,780 And she wasn't my mother. 250 00:20:47,299 --> 00:20:49,939 I'm not even sure what that means, or why I've said it. 251 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:06,525 Is she reliable? 252 00:21:06,526 --> 00:21:08,993 That speech. 253 00:21:09,420 --> 00:21:11,153 It's a bit weird. 254 00:21:11,540 --> 00:21:13,753 For being honest? 255 00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:15,392 Inappropriate. 256 00:21:15,393 --> 00:21:17,433 She will be with Michael. 257 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:19,492 What about him? 258 00:21:21,393 --> 00:21:22,713 When it gets messy? 259 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:25,593 It will not. 260 00:21:25,872 --> 00:21:27,352 It already has. 261 00:21:28,353 --> 00:21:30,075 For all that easy charm, he wears 262 00:21:30,087 --> 00:21:31,872 his principles like a Kevlar vest. 263 00:21:31,873 --> 00:21:34,033 He knows what has to be done. 264 00:21:35,020 --> 00:21:37,753 Going to have his conscience shot to shit, if not. 265 00:21:39,673 --> 00:21:41,595 We are doing the right thing. 266 00:21:41,596 --> 00:21:44,153 May come a time when that gets forgotten. 267 00:21:45,553 --> 00:21:48,153 - We must make sure to remind him. - So? 268 00:21:50,340 --> 00:21:54,112 We don't know, and we're not going to. At least not yet. 269 00:21:54,113 --> 00:21:55,832 They've got nothing on the killer 270 00:21:55,833 --> 00:21:58,992 and the best they've got on the other three is hair-strand DNA 271 00:21:58,993 --> 00:22:00,873 suggesting a sub-Saharan diet. 272 00:22:01,180 --> 00:22:03,671 Down there, Nyamoya has more enemies 273 00:22:03,683 --> 00:22:05,713 than I have uterine fibroids. 274 00:22:08,140 --> 00:22:10,992 Just had an ultrasound, I'm kind of obsessing about it. 275 00:22:10,993 --> 00:22:14,112 But we will find out, eventually. 276 00:22:14,113 --> 00:22:15,952 Just not the way we expect. 277 00:22:15,953 --> 00:22:18,712 It's Africa, is what it is, Mikey, but then we all knew that 278 00:22:18,713 --> 00:22:22,112 - That is why we have to do this. - She's right. 279 00:22:22,113 --> 00:22:25,152 The only chance we've got now of completing what Eve started... 280 00:22:25,153 --> 00:22:27,592 Is for you to make the call. 281 00:22:27,593 --> 00:22:29,753 - Do it for her. - For Eve. 282 00:22:30,060 --> 00:22:32,273 And we might even find out who did this. 283 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:35,313 OK. 284 00:22:41,953 --> 00:22:43,113 Here. 285 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:49,553 Long time since I've seen this. 286 00:22:55,673 --> 00:22:57,392 She'd just changed the batteries. 287 00:22:57,393 --> 00:22:58,912 She intended to play it in court. 288 00:22:58,913 --> 00:23:00,793 She make copies? 289 00:23:02,006 --> 00:23:03,740 She didn't get that far. 290 00:23:04,993 --> 00:23:06,273 I've got one on my hard drive. 291 00:23:06,620 --> 00:23:08,032 That's very modern of you. 292 00:23:08,033 --> 00:23:10,513 Don't ask me to open it. 293 00:23:12,180 --> 00:23:13,953 Whole story's in your hands. 294 00:23:17,113 --> 00:23:19,752 Hell, I forgot. I've got to give her something. 295 00:23:19,753 --> 00:23:22,540 So, when will it happen? 296 00:23:23,953 --> 00:23:26,233 But it will. Just carry on as normal. 297 00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:28,433 Look after me, Mikey. 298 00:23:29,153 --> 00:23:30,486 You'll be fine. 299 00:23:36,993 --> 00:23:39,152 What? 300 00:23:39,153 --> 00:23:40,540 That's what I told Eve. 301 00:23:49,633 --> 00:23:51,512 Serve it. 302 00:23:51,513 --> 00:23:54,832 I'm going the wrong way. 303 00:23:54,833 --> 00:23:56,873 Excuse me, I have to catch a plane. 304 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:01,673 I have something for you. 305 00:24:04,779 --> 00:24:09,508 This, it is of your mother. Er... I mean Eve. 306 00:24:09,537 --> 00:24:11,872 No, she was my mother. 307 00:24:11,873 --> 00:24:13,620 What I meant to say was, 308 00:24:14,193 --> 00:24:17,860 in a way she was... she was more. 309 00:24:18,713 --> 00:24:20,433 I don't know what I meant to say. 310 00:24:22,860 --> 00:24:24,633 Look at it. 311 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:31,232 Actually, there is also me and Michael. 312 00:24:31,233 --> 00:24:35,272 And that there, that is Ed. 313 00:24:35,273 --> 00:24:36,553 See? 314 00:24:40,219 --> 00:24:41,979 When was it taken? 315 00:24:43,006 --> 00:24:45,206 Just before he died. 316 00:24:49,437 --> 00:24:50,809 And where was it taken? 317 00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:52,273 Kigali. 318 00:24:55,380 --> 00:24:56,992 That's wonderful. 319 00:24:56,993 --> 00:25:00,912 No, no, keep it. I brought it for you. 320 00:25:00,913 --> 00:25:03,232 And there is something else. 321 00:25:03,233 --> 00:25:06,193 But that is for another day. 322 00:25:08,485 --> 00:25:10,885 Whatever happens now... 323 00:25:13,453 --> 00:25:15,340 ...remember that. 324 00:25:17,633 --> 00:25:19,713 Why? What's going to happen? 325 00:25:22,313 --> 00:25:24,113 And stay close to Michael. 326 00:25:24,686 --> 00:25:26,486 What's going to happen? 327 00:26:13,953 --> 00:26:15,393 Alice Munezero? 328 00:26:17,433 --> 00:26:18,993 - Yes. - You're under arrest. 329 00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:22,152 For what? 330 00:26:22,153 --> 00:26:24,472 Suspicion of war crimes against civilians 331 00:26:24,473 --> 00:26:26,395 committed by you in the Ngoma region of... 332 00:26:26,396 --> 00:26:31,402 Of Eastern Rwanda on or around 11th June, 1994. 333 00:26:31,403 --> 00:26:35,432 I know. It was issued by a French court in 2009. 334 00:26:35,433 --> 00:26:39,152 And I assume that is an European Arrest Warrant. 335 00:26:39,153 --> 00:26:42,233 - For your extradition to France, yes. - Yes. 336 00:26:44,473 --> 00:26:46,512 Now you should read me my rights. 337 00:26:46,513 --> 00:26:49,273 Sounds like you've been expecting us. 338 00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:51,679 For a long time. 339 00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:28,512 This you? 340 00:29:28,513 --> 00:29:30,393 My mother's. 341 00:29:30,945 --> 00:29:32,585 That's yours. 342 00:29:53,193 --> 00:29:54,900 A Promethium rock. 343 00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:58,312 Hope no-one tries to peck out your liver. 344 00:29:58,313 --> 00:30:00,672 I've got drugs doing that already. 345 00:30:00,673 --> 00:30:02,192 You got that under control? 346 00:30:02,193 --> 00:30:05,072 Clockwork. First one with Good Morning Britain, 347 00:30:05,073 --> 00:30:06,512 second with Cash in the Attic. 348 00:30:06,513 --> 00:30:09,380 - Busy day. - Only if I pick up a can opener. 349 00:30:10,540 --> 00:30:12,153 Still think she was wrong? 350 00:30:12,740 --> 00:30:15,100 Your argument. 351 00:30:15,593 --> 00:30:20,057 Well, I guess we will never know now, will we? 352 00:30:20,426 --> 00:30:22,260 Want to find out? 353 00:30:24,633 --> 00:30:25,912 Why? 354 00:30:25,913 --> 00:30:27,811 Unless Star Trek: Voyager 355 00:30:27,812 --> 00:30:29,993 is fulfilling all of your emotional needs. 356 00:30:35,146 --> 00:30:38,266 That's about to start, actually. 357 00:30:45,953 --> 00:30:47,142 How? 358 00:30:47,167 --> 00:30:49,312 So, you think Nyamoya was a national hero? 359 00:30:49,313 --> 00:30:51,272 It's not so simple. 360 00:30:51,273 --> 00:30:53,673 But you didn't want your mother to prosecute him. 361 00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:56,632 Thing is, it's not always easy 362 00:30:56,633 --> 00:30:58,455 just to come out with the truth. 363 00:30:58,456 --> 00:31:00,752 It is to me. You just say it. 364 00:31:00,753 --> 00:31:03,111 But where you were born, you have 365 00:31:03,123 --> 00:31:05,633 to pick your moment and your place. 366 00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:07,233 So? 367 00:31:07,980 --> 00:31:10,272 What if your mother 368 00:31:10,273 --> 00:31:13,590 didn't see Nyamoya as a destination, 369 00:31:14,377 --> 00:31:15,672 more a bridge? 370 00:31:15,673 --> 00:31:18,313 - To what? - I don't know for sure. 371 00:31:19,873 --> 00:31:22,073 But this may be the way to find out. 372 00:31:24,660 --> 00:31:26,025 How? 373 00:31:26,026 --> 00:31:28,913 Alice Munezero's been arrested. 374 00:31:33,593 --> 00:31:36,039 The French think she killed one of their priests in Rwanda 375 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,113 - during the genocide. - Why? 376 00:31:38,780 --> 00:31:40,632 They allege she found the guy in his church 377 00:31:40,633 --> 00:31:42,913 with a couple of hundred dead Tutsis. 378 00:31:43,780 --> 00:31:46,713 Before asking any questions, she shot him. 379 00:31:47,260 --> 00:31:48,472 And that's it? 380 00:31:48,473 --> 00:31:50,220 Certainly was for the priest. 381 00:32:01,473 --> 00:32:02,713 I drink. 382 00:32:03,331 --> 00:32:04,336 Yeah? 383 00:32:04,337 --> 00:32:06,504 At night, all alone. 384 00:32:06,884 --> 00:32:08,493 Sometimes quite a bit. 385 00:32:10,639 --> 00:32:12,540 - Alone? - That's why I have him. 386 00:32:13,726 --> 00:32:16,046 Wouldn't look good, me on a DUI. 387 00:32:16,562 --> 00:32:17,754 No. 388 00:32:17,755 --> 00:32:19,912 Wouldn't want you to think I was a snob, though. 389 00:32:19,913 --> 00:32:22,432 Just a lonely alcoholic. 390 00:32:22,433 --> 00:32:24,273 Quite a pair. 391 00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:28,072 You shouldn't trust me, you know. 392 00:32:28,073 --> 00:32:29,460 Why? 393 00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:32,060 My mind, it's... 394 00:32:33,865 --> 00:32:35,705 Normal, to feel like that. 395 00:32:37,239 --> 00:32:39,319 Nothing about me is normal. 396 00:32:39,993 --> 00:32:42,272 I pull back from everything. Everything. 397 00:32:42,273 --> 00:32:44,912 Even Eve. Particularly her. 398 00:32:44,913 --> 00:32:48,020 There's another way to look at that. She was your centre. 399 00:32:48,304 --> 00:32:50,873 Well, now I'm cut loose. 400 00:32:52,940 --> 00:32:54,433 Let me take her place. 401 00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:57,512 You... You want to be my mother?! 402 00:32:57,513 --> 00:32:58,902 I want you to feel like there's 403 00:32:58,914 --> 00:33:00,632 somebody at the centre of your life, 404 00:33:00,633 --> 00:33:02,553 for as long as you need it. 405 00:33:03,465 --> 00:33:04,505 What do you get? 406 00:33:06,153 --> 00:33:07,513 Yes. 407 00:33:08,140 --> 00:33:09,740 A replacement daughter. 408 00:33:12,993 --> 00:33:14,912 That's why I like you, Kate. 409 00:33:14,913 --> 00:33:17,432 You say the things other people wouldn't dare. 410 00:33:17,433 --> 00:33:20,100 There you go, see? I'm doing it already. 411 00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,352 You go ahead. 412 00:33:23,353 --> 00:33:25,793 Maybe you're right. Maybe it's what we both need. 413 00:33:28,026 --> 00:33:29,940 I know it's what Eve would want. 414 00:33:30,691 --> 00:33:32,331 And so would she. 415 00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:43,940 - Did you do it? - No. 416 00:33:46,780 --> 00:33:49,433 And Michael's agreed to be your lead counsel. 417 00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:53,458 With you investigating. 418 00:33:53,459 --> 00:33:54,940 He says you're the best. 419 00:33:55,716 --> 00:33:57,121 Well, if you're looking to employ 420 00:33:57,122 --> 00:33:59,018 a grief-stricken junkie on suicide watch, 421 00:33:59,019 --> 00:34:01,913 you certainly are in need of legal representation. 422 00:34:02,485 --> 00:34:03,645 And here you are. 423 00:34:04,812 --> 00:34:06,372 But not for long. 424 00:34:07,113 --> 00:34:09,752 There is no way this charge could stick under UK law, 425 00:34:09,753 --> 00:34:11,673 and, anyway, you're not a UK citizen. 426 00:34:12,176 --> 00:34:14,531 All you have to do now is object to the extradition 427 00:34:14,532 --> 00:34:16,993 and you'll be home within a week. Simple as that. 428 00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:19,295 Only thing that puzzles me is why 429 00:34:19,307 --> 00:34:21,060 he hasn't told you that already. 430 00:34:22,830 --> 00:34:25,300 See? Just like her mother. 431 00:34:29,766 --> 00:34:33,032 Alice Munezero, I'm obliged in this place 432 00:34:33,033 --> 00:34:34,792 to make you aware formally 433 00:34:34,793 --> 00:34:36,913 of the contents of the Part 1 warrant. 434 00:34:37,460 --> 00:34:40,991 These are, that under Articles 132 and 143 435 00:34:40,992 --> 00:34:42,896 Code of Criminal Procedure, 436 00:34:42,897 --> 00:34:46,536 you are accused that on 11th June, 1994, 437 00:34:46,537 --> 00:34:48,820 as the commanding officer of a unit 438 00:34:48,832 --> 00:34:51,126 within the Rwandan Patriotic Front, 439 00:34:51,127 --> 00:34:55,193 you advanced into Ngoma district, Eastern Rwanda, 440 00:34:55,194 --> 00:34:58,032 where you did unlawfully kill a French citizen 441 00:34:58,033 --> 00:35:00,192 by the name of Pascal Patenaude, 442 00:35:00,193 --> 00:35:02,352 a father in the Order of the Grey Fathers, 443 00:35:02,353 --> 00:35:06,113 outside their church in the diocese of Kibungo. 444 00:35:06,620 --> 00:35:08,352 And that this action took place 445 00:35:08,353 --> 00:35:12,032 under the category of War Crimes against Civilians. 446 00:35:12,033 --> 00:35:14,313 Are you now aware of these contents? 447 00:35:14,860 --> 00:35:16,353 I am. 448 00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:18,673 And in the presence of your counsel, 449 00:35:18,980 --> 00:35:21,512 would you now indicate whether or not 450 00:35:21,513 --> 00:35:25,380 you are willing to consent to the extradition proceedings? 451 00:35:29,153 --> 00:35:34,821 Madam, I wish to consent to the extradition order. 452 00:35:34,822 --> 00:35:36,620 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 453 00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:40,873 Did your client understand the question, Mr Ennis? 454 00:35:41,460 --> 00:35:42,673 She did, ma'am. 455 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:45,192 She wishes to consent to the order? 456 00:35:45,193 --> 00:35:46,740 She does, ma'am. 457 00:35:47,753 --> 00:35:49,313 Very well. 458 00:35:58,593 --> 00:36:00,392 What have you done?! 459 00:36:00,393 --> 00:36:02,100 Taken her case to France. 460 00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:04,993 You knew this was going to happen. 461 00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:08,752 So did she. She said as much at Mumma's funeral. 462 00:36:08,753 --> 00:36:11,793 I tipped off the NCA to serve the warrant, yes. 463 00:36:12,380 --> 00:36:13,513 Why? 464 00:36:13,940 --> 00:36:15,832 Because it's been knocking around for years. 465 00:36:15,833 --> 00:36:18,273 Every time she travels, she's at risk of arrest. 466 00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:21,312 So finally, she's decided just to flush it all out. 467 00:36:21,313 --> 00:36:23,552 By getting herself thrown in a French jail?! 468 00:36:23,553 --> 00:36:24,746 How fucking stupid is that?! 469 00:36:24,747 --> 00:36:26,952 - You think? - Yes, I... I know. 470 00:36:26,953 --> 00:36:29,752 Good. So now we're going to get her out. 471 00:36:29,753 --> 00:36:33,432 She shouldn't... she shouldn't be there in the first place! 472 00:36:33,433 --> 00:36:35,632 And now we have a chance to prove that. 473 00:36:35,633 --> 00:36:36,872 God, this is so fucked up! 474 00:36:36,873 --> 00:36:39,712 Innocence is assumed, Michael. You don't have to prove it! 475 00:36:39,713 --> 00:36:42,353 This isn't the destination, Kate. 476 00:36:42,820 --> 00:36:44,312 OK. Then what is? 477 00:36:44,313 --> 00:36:47,833 Well, that's what we're looking to find out. 478 00:36:58,138 --> 00:37:00,500 _ 479 00:37:27,260 --> 00:37:28,953 I am innocent. 480 00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:33,113 But you were leading an advance infantry unit 481 00:37:33,114 --> 00:37:36,152 - through that region at that time? - Yes. 482 00:37:36,153 --> 00:37:39,473 But you or any representative of yours 483 00:37:39,860 --> 00:37:43,593 made absolutely no contact with Father Patenaude? 484 00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:47,552 I did not, nor did anyone under my command, or in my knowledge. 485 00:37:47,553 --> 00:37:51,194 Um... except there are two, 486 00:37:51,195 --> 00:37:55,352 two eyewitnesses who have sworn that you did. 487 00:37:55,353 --> 00:38:00,353 That you in fact, er... murdered Father Patenaude. 488 00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:02,633 They are lying. 489 00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:04,392 Because? 490 00:38:04,393 --> 00:38:06,392 If I may, one moment. 491 00:38:06,393 --> 00:38:08,352 One of the alleged witnesses, 492 00:38:08,353 --> 00:38:10,872 an occupant of the village, a Hutu... 493 00:38:10,873 --> 00:38:12,719 And a doctor, monsieur. 494 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:16,489 Nonetheless, his family was subsequently tried 495 00:38:16,490 --> 00:38:19,553 and found guilty of mass killings. 496 00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:22,513 He is now living in France as an ex-patriot. 497 00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:27,712 The conduct of one's family is no cause for self-incrimination. 498 00:38:27,713 --> 00:38:30,392 I'll submit a pattern of influence. 499 00:38:30,393 --> 00:38:34,752 And, er... on the other witness, monsieur? 500 00:38:34,753 --> 00:38:37,432 Also living in France. 501 00:38:37,433 --> 00:38:38,792 Who is a Tutsi 502 00:38:38,793 --> 00:38:43,272 and served as a lieutenant in Mrs Munezero's own infantry unit. 503 00:38:43,273 --> 00:38:46,992 What pattern of influence might you submit on him? 504 00:38:46,993 --> 00:38:48,313 He was a spy. 505 00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:51,113 For who? 506 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:54,073 The French. 507 00:38:57,380 --> 00:38:58,713 Why? 508 00:39:01,580 --> 00:39:06,312 Because, sir, for many years, 509 00:39:06,313 --> 00:39:10,380 your country was on the side of the genocide planners. 510 00:39:12,553 --> 00:39:16,860 And when the genocide happened and my army brought it to an end, 511 00:39:18,580 --> 00:39:21,792 your country was too ashamed to admit their guilt. 512 00:39:21,793 --> 00:39:25,113 And have instead tried to tarnish my innocence. 513 00:39:25,820 --> 00:39:28,220 The one to try and cancel the other. 514 00:39:29,932 --> 00:39:31,652 And that cannot be. 515 00:39:35,526 --> 00:39:36,926 OK. 516 00:39:38,273 --> 00:39:41,552 Um... this investigation was not launched by me. 517 00:39:41,553 --> 00:39:43,764 It was launched by a colleague ten 518 00:39:43,776 --> 00:39:45,872 years ago who has since retired. 519 00:39:45,873 --> 00:39:50,152 A timescale of this length reflects poorly on us 520 00:39:50,153 --> 00:39:53,713 whilst maintaining a question mark upon you. 521 00:39:54,260 --> 00:39:57,312 So it is in the interest of all parties 522 00:39:57,313 --> 00:39:59,952 to bring this matter to a swift conclusion. 523 00:39:59,953 --> 00:40:04,833 Either... I recommend this dossier for trial, 524 00:40:05,180 --> 00:40:06,753 or I dismiss it. 525 00:40:07,913 --> 00:40:10,162 And for me to do that, you must 526 00:40:10,174 --> 00:40:12,872 show me at least one of two things. 527 00:40:12,873 --> 00:40:14,912 Proof of your innocence 528 00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:16,953 or the guilt of your accusers. 529 00:40:25,953 --> 00:40:27,433 Thank you. 530 00:40:30,833 --> 00:40:32,732 When did his predecessor die? 531 00:40:32,733 --> 00:40:34,832 Um... about 18 months ago. 532 00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:37,073 A few months after he retired. 533 00:40:37,460 --> 00:40:38,673 Did he do that by choice? 534 00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:40,952 - Die? - Retire. 535 00:40:40,953 --> 00:40:42,768 There was some talk of him running 536 00:40:42,780 --> 00:40:44,712 for public office a few months back. 537 00:40:44,713 --> 00:40:47,153 His heart just couldn't keep up. Worry you? 538 00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:50,313 Just wasn't expecting the new guy to be so helpful. 539 00:40:50,980 --> 00:40:53,153 Well, don't go complaining, he's just given her bail. 540 00:40:54,153 --> 00:40:57,792 Yeah. No. Yeah! It's good. 541 00:40:57,793 --> 00:40:59,272 C'est bon! 542 00:41:07,113 --> 00:41:10,152 So... Florence Patenaude. 543 00:41:10,153 --> 00:41:13,624 Yep. Er... Father Patenaude's mother. 544 00:41:13,625 --> 00:41:16,312 Made the initial complaint which launched the investigation. 545 00:41:16,313 --> 00:41:18,072 - Is she still alive? - Yeah. 546 00:41:18,073 --> 00:41:20,313 - Thank fuck for that! - Yeah. 547 00:41:20,780 --> 00:41:24,073 She made a formal complaint in 1998. 548 00:41:24,460 --> 00:41:26,992 Four years after the alleged incident. 549 00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:31,432 Why the delay? 550 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000 _ 551 00:41:35,014 --> 00:41:36,260 _ 552 00:41:42,993 --> 00:41:45,513 No. No, sorry, I didn't get that. 553 00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:48,392 Her son had joined the Grey Fathers, 554 00:41:48,393 --> 00:41:50,405 so he was lost to her long before his death. 555 00:41:51,406 --> 00:41:53,780 - The Grey Fathers is a holy order. - I know. 556 00:41:54,540 --> 00:41:56,193 What made you change your mind? 557 00:41:58,994 --> 00:42:00,353 Monsieur Barre. 558 00:42:00,699 --> 00:42:01,660 Who? 559 00:42:02,153 --> 00:42:03,533 _ 560 00:42:04,834 --> 00:42:06,313 Her sponsor. 561 00:43:21,345 --> 00:43:24,380 Mademoiselle, you've strayed. 562 00:43:25,793 --> 00:43:28,740 - No, I-I was just... - Looking at the past. 563 00:43:35,153 --> 00:43:36,713 Thank you. 564 00:43:44,540 --> 00:43:47,752 My lawyer will be sitting in with us. You understand. 565 00:43:47,753 --> 00:43:49,020 Of course. 566 00:43:51,340 --> 00:43:54,832 All this... from rubber. 567 00:43:54,833 --> 00:43:56,673 Three generations now. 568 00:43:58,713 --> 00:44:01,473 But I understand my inheritance. 569 00:44:01,860 --> 00:44:04,232 The benefits are obvious... 570 00:44:04,233 --> 00:44:06,432 the burdens, less so. 571 00:44:06,433 --> 00:44:09,113 Unless you were Congolese in the 1900s. 572 00:44:10,047 --> 00:44:11,259 Are you Congolese? 573 00:44:11,299 --> 00:44:12,659 English. 574 00:44:13,393 --> 00:44:15,072 But where are you from originally? 575 00:44:15,073 --> 00:44:17,433 Originally? Er... from loving parents. 576 00:44:21,153 --> 00:44:23,713 Why did you approach Florence Patenaude? 577 00:44:24,460 --> 00:44:28,192 Because I wanted, um... I want to see justice done, 578 00:44:28,193 --> 00:44:31,312 and I didn't think she knew she could have it for her son. 579 00:44:31,313 --> 00:44:34,104 And why, particularly, 580 00:44:34,105 --> 00:44:36,033 did you want her to have it? 581 00:44:37,302 --> 00:44:41,112 The Tutsi genocide is a taboo subject, Mademoiselle, 582 00:44:41,113 --> 00:44:42,673 but its undeniable horror 583 00:44:43,420 --> 00:44:47,393 disguises a more complex truth. 584 00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:50,473 Which is...? 585 00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:52,832 What do you know about Rwanda? 586 00:44:52,833 --> 00:44:55,432 Er... what... What do you? 587 00:44:55,433 --> 00:44:57,502 A lot. 588 00:44:57,503 --> 00:45:01,433 I was advisor to the Elysee Palace from 1987-'94. 589 00:45:01,860 --> 00:45:03,313 The lead-up to the genocide. 590 00:45:05,460 --> 00:45:08,353 And what did you advise your president to do? 591 00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:12,273 Everything in his power to avoid it. 592 00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:14,673 Which was...? 593 00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:19,353 For him to support the democratically-elected majority. 594 00:45:19,740 --> 00:45:20,793 The Hutus. 595 00:45:21,220 --> 00:45:23,273 Who were the majority. 596 00:45:23,660 --> 00:45:25,072 You have to remember, Mademoiselle, 597 00:45:25,073 --> 00:45:27,912 the Tutsis were always a minority in Rwanda. 598 00:45:27,913 --> 00:45:30,272 14%, no more. 599 00:45:30,273 --> 00:45:32,472 Their monarchy ruled for hundreds of years, 600 00:45:32,473 --> 00:45:33,912 and during the colonial era, 601 00:45:33,913 --> 00:45:36,792 the Belgians maintained them as proxy rulers. 602 00:45:36,793 --> 00:45:40,656 But in '62, after the independence and the elections, 603 00:45:40,657 --> 00:45:42,473 it was the Hutus who won the power. 604 00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:44,192 And so they should. 605 00:45:44,193 --> 00:45:47,033 85% of the population, plain and simple. 606 00:45:47,540 --> 00:45:49,952 The only reason why so many Tutsis left the country 607 00:45:49,953 --> 00:45:51,793 is because they lost the power. 608 00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:55,709 Well, they were also being threatened with mass extermination. 609 00:45:55,710 --> 00:45:57,308 Only because they wanted to take 610 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,232 back what was not rightfully theirs. 611 00:45:59,233 --> 00:46:03,713 When I became advisor, the real danger was civil war. 612 00:46:05,660 --> 00:46:09,592 So, between '87 and '94, 613 00:46:09,593 --> 00:46:13,592 you advised your president to support the Hutu government? 614 00:46:13,593 --> 00:46:16,392 The democratically-elected majority, as I've said. 615 00:46:16,393 --> 00:46:19,552 - And the president took your advice? - Yes. 616 00:46:19,553 --> 00:46:21,712 But it wasn't as if the Catholic Church 617 00:46:21,713 --> 00:46:24,232 hadn't been saying the same thing for years. 618 00:46:24,233 --> 00:46:26,840 We, all of us, were simply assisting... 619 00:46:26,841 --> 00:46:30,712 Assisting a government that turned into a genocidal regime. 620 00:46:30,713 --> 00:46:33,712 Only because the Tutsis massed an army on the borders 621 00:46:33,713 --> 00:46:36,312 before launching an occupation of the country! 622 00:46:36,313 --> 00:46:40,273 They created the fear, the fear created the genocide! 623 00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:45,393 Once these Banyarwandas did indeed invade, it was too late! 624 00:46:48,940 --> 00:46:50,073 I'm a Tutsi. 625 00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:54,073 And my family were all killed. 626 00:46:56,220 --> 00:46:57,713 Then I'm very sorry. 627 00:46:58,300 --> 00:46:59,860 But you must remember, 628 00:47:00,660 --> 00:47:02,992 the blame for their death lies as much with 629 00:47:02,993 --> 00:47:05,112 the Tutsi who invaded the country 630 00:47:05,113 --> 00:47:08,020 as with the Hutu who held the machete. 631 00:47:19,873 --> 00:47:22,553 Do you realise how offensive that remark is? 632 00:47:23,020 --> 00:47:26,752 I realise the truth is far more complex 633 00:47:26,753 --> 00:47:28,900 than you may wish to hear. 634 00:47:32,420 --> 00:47:35,552 It was all I could do not to hit him myself. 635 00:47:35,553 --> 00:47:37,312 It's ugly, but he believes it. 636 00:47:37,313 --> 00:47:41,352 And prosecuting Alice, the representative of the Tutsi army, 637 00:47:41,353 --> 00:47:42,912 for the murder of a French priest, 638 00:47:42,913 --> 00:47:45,033 a representative of his government, 639 00:47:45,540 --> 00:47:47,593 that's his way of proving it. 640 00:47:51,593 --> 00:47:53,833 - Do you want me to come back? - No, no, no. 641 00:47:54,426 --> 00:47:55,906 Stay here. 642 00:48:11,073 --> 00:48:14,872 So... His two witnesses 643 00:48:14,873 --> 00:48:17,620 have failed to respond to our request for an interview. 644 00:48:17,621 --> 00:48:19,272 No surprise. 645 00:48:19,273 --> 00:48:22,485 And, like here, under French law, 646 00:48:22,486 --> 00:48:24,232 there's no compulsion for them to do so. 647 00:48:24,233 --> 00:48:28,592 So I want you to go over and have a chat with them, off book. 648 00:48:28,593 --> 00:48:29,752 OK. 649 00:48:29,753 --> 00:48:31,952 And remember, the limits of harassment 650 00:48:31,953 --> 00:48:34,232 are the same as here, so stay within them. 651 00:48:34,233 --> 00:48:38,300 Ooh. Not sure subtlety's my strongest suit. 652 00:48:40,593 --> 00:48:42,112 And yet you managed to hide 653 00:48:42,113 --> 00:48:44,833 your affair with Godwin from almost everyone. 654 00:48:54,980 --> 00:48:57,393 Did Eve know? 655 00:49:00,073 --> 00:49:01,620 Just you. 656 00:49:02,946 --> 00:49:04,786 Guessing the wife did, too, 657 00:49:04,811 --> 00:49:07,620 or is there another reason you didn't attend the funeral? 658 00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:16,913 Did you love him? 659 00:49:20,212 --> 00:49:21,572 He'd, er... 660 00:49:22,353 --> 00:49:24,780 He'd just blown me out, so... 661 00:49:25,633 --> 00:49:27,953 Kate. 662 00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:30,032 Are you feeling sorry for me? 663 00:49:30,033 --> 00:49:34,872 No. Just the... the weight of it. 664 00:49:34,873 --> 00:49:37,312 I'm used to that, 665 00:49:37,313 --> 00:49:40,153 losing things I love. Been doing it all my life. 666 00:49:41,593 --> 00:49:47,913 So, er... don't expect me to behave the way others do. 667 00:49:48,860 --> 00:49:50,273 I don't. 668 00:49:52,346 --> 00:49:53,666 Good. 669 00:49:56,199 --> 00:49:58,559 Someone is not telling us the truth. 670 00:50:00,220 --> 00:50:02,073 I'll speak to the witnesses. 671 00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:36,719 Dr Musoni. 672 00:50:37,353 --> 00:50:39,113 Avez-vous vos papiers? 673 00:50:39,740 --> 00:50:41,073 Excuse me? 674 00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:42,593 Where are you from? 675 00:50:43,140 --> 00:50:46,020 I am not a refugee. 676 00:50:46,860 --> 00:50:48,152 At least, not yet. 677 00:50:48,153 --> 00:50:50,460 I'm from Alice Munezero's legal team. 678 00:50:51,940 --> 00:50:53,672 Yeah. 679 00:50:53,673 --> 00:50:55,777 And you're a key witness for the prosecution, 680 00:50:55,778 --> 00:50:59,672 but you haven't yet responded to our request for an interview. 681 00:50:59,673 --> 00:51:00,953 I don't have to. 682 00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:02,912 No. No, you don't, 683 00:51:02,913 --> 00:51:05,272 but if you are found to have given false testimony, 684 00:51:05,273 --> 00:51:07,516 well, it's called perjury. 685 00:51:07,517 --> 00:51:09,141 I'm sure you've heard of it, and 686 00:51:09,153 --> 00:51:10,993 you'll be deported back to Rwanda. 687 00:51:11,346 --> 00:51:12,906 That won't happen. 688 00:51:14,300 --> 00:51:16,913 - Why? - Because I'm telling the truth. 689 00:51:16,938 --> 00:51:19,326 Yes, fine, fine. 690 00:51:19,327 --> 00:51:22,432 But the legality of truth, how it's defined, 691 00:51:22,433 --> 00:51:25,753 well, if I were you, I'd check on that. 692 00:51:26,971 --> 00:51:30,512 It's very good, what you're doing here. 693 00:51:30,513 --> 00:51:34,232 I have been one of them. 694 00:51:34,233 --> 00:51:38,673 Although I did stop by at your home before coming here. 695 00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:41,313 It's a pretty impressive place. 696 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,039 You've really made a life for yourself here. 697 00:51:45,193 --> 00:51:47,633 Careful not to lose it. 698 00:52:15,193 --> 00:52:16,913 I'm so sorry. 699 00:52:18,107 --> 00:52:20,472 This is embarrassing. 700 00:52:20,473 --> 00:52:23,832 Um... my car, it won't start. 701 00:52:23,833 --> 00:52:26,032 And I need to call my office. 702 00:52:26,033 --> 00:52:27,833 I don't have a phone. 703 00:52:28,220 --> 00:52:31,032 - Not very professional? - I know. 704 00:52:31,033 --> 00:52:33,393 I'm... I'm new. 705 00:52:34,553 --> 00:52:35,832 Could I borrow yours? 706 00:52:35,833 --> 00:52:37,952 - What?! - I know we're on opposite sides, 707 00:52:37,953 --> 00:52:40,540 but we're both still human beings, right? 708 00:52:40,946 --> 00:52:43,666 Otherwise, I'll be tagging around with you all day. 709 00:52:45,713 --> 00:52:47,593 I can give you... 710 00:52:49,473 --> 00:52:51,553 ...five, five euros. 711 00:52:57,833 --> 00:53:00,232 - Ennis. - Hey, it's me. 712 00:53:00,233 --> 00:53:01,912 He called someone the moment I left. 713 00:53:01,913 --> 00:53:03,872 I've texted you a number. 714 00:53:03,873 --> 00:53:06,660 Yeah, got it! 715 00:53:07,553 --> 00:53:09,793 OK, I'll see if I can get you a name. 716 00:53:12,513 --> 00:53:15,793 I have a Michael Ennis on the phone. 717 00:53:17,540 --> 00:53:18,673 Put him through. 718 00:53:25,793 --> 00:53:27,032 Yep? 719 00:53:27,033 --> 00:53:29,233 - Are you hands-free? - Yep. 720 00:53:30,473 --> 00:53:32,832 - You're not hands-free. - No. 721 00:53:32,833 --> 00:53:35,832 His name is Tat Picot. 722 00:53:35,833 --> 00:53:37,392 He's DGSE. 723 00:53:37,393 --> 00:53:39,673 He's French Secret Service. 724 00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:45,593 Lieutenant Makuze? 725 00:53:46,580 --> 00:53:48,142 Who wants to know? 726 00:53:48,143 --> 00:53:51,272 My name's Kate Ashby, I work for Alice Munezero's legal team. 727 00:53:51,273 --> 00:53:54,032 You're down as a key prosecution witness. 728 00:53:54,033 --> 00:53:56,580 I've just been speaking with Tat Picot. 729 00:53:57,553 --> 00:53:59,912 I thought it was really interesting, what he had to say, 730 00:53:59,913 --> 00:54:01,677 and I just wondered what you thought about it all, 731 00:54:01,678 --> 00:54:03,633 and how you feel about the risks. 732 00:54:04,060 --> 00:54:05,312 If you spoke with Tat Picot... 733 00:54:05,313 --> 00:54:07,112 So you do know him. 734 00:54:07,113 --> 00:54:09,793 And now he will know you. 735 00:54:18,659 --> 00:54:20,259 Won't that be cosy? 736 00:57:16,953 --> 00:57:18,833 What the fuck am I doing? 737 00:58:02,563 --> 00:58:04,560 _ 738 00:58:04,684 --> 00:58:06,684 *CREDITS*