1 00:00:08,506 --> 00:00:10,597 They're gonna delay my game. 2 00:00:10,598 --> 00:00:11,865 Indefinitely. 3 00:00:12,860 --> 00:00:16,471 Previously on AMC's "Halt and Catch Fire"... 4 00:00:16,557 --> 00:00:18,704 Rover isn't developing a browser. 5 00:00:18,705 --> 00:00:19,827 It's indexing the web. 6 00:00:19,828 --> 00:00:21,228 I need to borrow some money. 7 00:00:21,229 --> 00:00:23,063 You don't know what it's like being retired. 8 00:00:23,064 --> 00:00:24,865 This can't be my last thing. 9 00:00:24,866 --> 00:00:26,567 Could we drill down on leadership experience? 10 00:00:26,568 --> 00:00:29,303 If that's what Rover needs, I have the perfect person. 11 00:00:29,304 --> 00:00:32,172 - What is this? - Well, markup language is pretty easy. 12 00:00:32,173 --> 00:00:33,941 Not like it's C++. 13 00:00:33,942 --> 00:00:36,009 Imagine a website of websites 14 00:00:36,010 --> 00:00:38,044 that takes you wherever you want to go. 15 00:01:17,452 --> 00:01:20,454 It wasn't about him. 16 00:01:22,957 --> 00:01:25,425 I was sad. 17 00:01:25,426 --> 00:01:28,695 And I needed to pour that sadness into something, 18 00:01:28,696 --> 00:01:30,931 and he... 19 00:01:30,932 --> 00:01:34,801 happened to be there. 20 00:01:34,802 --> 00:01:38,272 I was in the same room as him. 21 00:01:41,276 --> 00:01:46,446 I just keep thinking about everything he said to me. 22 00:01:48,082 --> 00:01:50,317 You took his side. 23 00:01:50,318 --> 00:01:52,753 You love him. 24 00:01:52,754 --> 00:01:55,556 That's not true. 25 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,094 Why should I believe you? 26 00:02:02,897 --> 00:02:04,998 Because... 27 00:02:04,999 --> 00:02:08,835 there's no loving Joe. 28 00:02:12,173 --> 00:02:16,109 He's impossible to love. 29 00:02:19,113 --> 00:02:21,815 He's empty and... 30 00:02:21,816 --> 00:02:24,318 he just becomes 31 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:28,322 whatever circumstance needs him to be. 32 00:02:30,825 --> 00:02:35,629 Who are you? 33 00:02:44,372 --> 00:02:46,138 Joe! 34 00:02:48,943 --> 00:02:50,978 Oh. 35 00:02:50,979 --> 00:02:54,514 Wow. This is perfect. 36 00:02:54,515 --> 00:02:56,383 Didn't waste any time, did you? 37 00:02:56,384 --> 00:02:57,651 Is he here? 38 00:02:57,652 --> 00:02:59,953 At the office! 39 00:02:59,954 --> 00:03:01,788 You're not hearing me. 40 00:03:01,789 --> 00:03:04,458 No, this is an opportunity for you. 41 00:03:04,459 --> 00:03:05,959 Mm-hmm. 42 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,494 We are willing to restructure the deal, Jon. 43 00:03:09,364 --> 00:03:11,665 Listen, just give me five minutes of your time. 44 00:03:11,666 --> 00:03:14,633 Uh-huh. 45 00:03:25,413 --> 00:03:26,680 Gordon, I'm sorry. 46 00:03:26,681 --> 00:03:28,582 I had no idea what was going on. 47 00:03:28,583 --> 00:03:30,083 Just got off the phone with Volpi. 48 00:03:30,084 --> 00:03:32,112 Of course you can get him on the line. 49 00:03:32,113 --> 00:03:32,986 He's not budging! 50 00:03:32,987 --> 00:03:34,254 I'm trying PacBell. 51 00:03:34,255 --> 00:03:35,989 There's nothing there. You're too late. 52 00:03:35,990 --> 00:03:37,391 The only play we have left now 53 00:03:37,392 --> 00:03:38,992 is to sell while we're still worth something. 54 00:03:38,993 --> 00:03:40,494 Don't say that. We can still figure something... 55 00:03:40,495 --> 00:03:41,861 Oh, spare me the theatrics, Joe. 56 00:03:41,862 --> 00:03:43,830 If you've been on the phone for five minutes, then you know! 57 00:03:43,831 --> 00:03:46,266 That is not what I want to hear from you right now. 58 00:03:46,267 --> 00:03:47,701 How's Cameron? 59 00:03:47,702 --> 00:03:49,903 Yeah, I stopped by your place this morning. 60 00:03:49,904 --> 00:03:51,571 She looked, uh... comfortable. 61 00:03:51,572 --> 00:03:53,573 You know, you can imagine my surprise. 62 00:03:53,574 --> 00:03:55,842 You disappear, I think you're upset with me, 63 00:03:55,843 --> 00:03:57,911 and then turns out you've been holed up with a married woman. 64 00:03:57,912 --> 00:03:59,613 She's divorced. 65 00:03:59,614 --> 00:04:01,014 Almost. 66 00:04:01,015 --> 00:04:02,749 Almost divorced! 67 00:04:02,750 --> 00:04:05,619 - Th-That's beautiful. - Why are we talking about Cameron? 68 00:04:05,620 --> 00:04:07,220 Because I know you two! 69 00:04:07,221 --> 00:04:09,089 And it's like... it's like... 70 00:04:09,090 --> 00:04:11,625 it's like you're a train and she's a train, 71 00:04:11,626 --> 00:04:13,093 and you think, "Oh, we're both trains. 72 00:04:13,094 --> 00:04:14,561 We should get along great"! 73 00:04:14,562 --> 00:04:16,229 But then both the trains are on the same track, 74 00:04:16,230 --> 00:04:17,798 and they're both headed right for each other, 75 00:04:17,799 --> 00:04:19,199 and guess what... 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,467 both the trains are carrying dynamite. 77 00:04:20,468 --> 00:04:21,902 Look, I've seen this a thousand times. 78 00:04:21,903 --> 00:04:23,470 I know how it ends. 79 00:04:23,471 --> 00:04:25,038 - Okay. It's gonna explode! - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 80 00:04:25,039 --> 00:04:26,640 - It's not... - We're bad for each other, 81 00:04:26,641 --> 00:04:28,375 - and it's going to be disastrous. - Yes! 82 00:04:28,376 --> 00:04:32,279 What is this? 83 00:05:02,638 --> 00:05:09,471 Subtitle sync and corrections by awaqeded for www.addic7ed.com. 84 00:05:12,362 --> 00:05:14,731 Mm. 85 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:32,116 Hey! I made you breakfast. 86 00:05:33,618 --> 00:05:35,752 It's cheese egg. 87 00:05:35,753 --> 00:05:37,321 Cheese egg! 88 00:05:37,322 --> 00:05:38,589 Mm-hmm. 89 00:05:38,590 --> 00:05:39,823 Um... 90 00:05:39,824 --> 00:05:41,625 I, uh... 91 00:05:41,626 --> 00:05:43,994 wish I could come today. 92 00:05:43,995 --> 00:05:45,796 We're putting the final details on the sale, 93 00:05:45,797 --> 00:05:48,832 and Gordon's a little... heartbroken, I think. 94 00:05:48,833 --> 00:05:50,701 Honestly, it's just fine. 95 00:05:50,702 --> 00:05:52,436 It's such a non-thing. 96 00:05:52,437 --> 00:05:55,606 I'm gonna do my little obedient-robot routine, 97 00:05:55,607 --> 00:05:57,174 and that's it. 98 00:05:57,175 --> 00:05:59,343 You should swing by after. 99 00:06:00,945 --> 00:06:02,446 Gordon'll get over himself. 100 00:06:04,048 --> 00:06:06,550 It's fine anyways, 'cause I have to... 101 00:06:06,551 --> 00:06:07,818 excuse me. 102 00:06:07,819 --> 00:06:09,686 Um, I'm having a sit-down with Atari 103 00:06:09,687 --> 00:06:11,021 after the panel deal 104 00:06:11,022 --> 00:06:12,623 to talk next steps on Pilgrim, so... 105 00:06:12,624 --> 00:06:14,024 Oh, that should go smoothly. 106 00:06:14,025 --> 00:06:17,327 Yeah, I think they're gonna come around. 107 00:06:17,328 --> 00:06:20,030 I, uh... I got a present for you. 108 00:06:20,031 --> 00:06:21,465 Me? 109 00:06:21,466 --> 00:06:23,567 Mm-hmm. 110 00:06:23,568 --> 00:06:26,336 For your video games. 111 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,239 Oh. 112 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,842 Well, that's... 113 00:06:31,843 --> 00:06:33,210 passive-aggressive. 114 00:06:33,211 --> 00:06:34,645 Really? Is it? 115 00:06:34,646 --> 00:06:36,880 'Cause I was... I was aiming for blunt, 116 00:06:36,881 --> 00:06:38,582 - uncompromising clarity. - Oh. You missed the mark. 117 00:06:38,583 --> 00:06:39,850 You're loud. 118 00:06:39,851 --> 00:06:42,052 Everything you do is loud... 119 00:06:42,053 --> 00:06:43,654 - and messy. - Sorry. 120 00:06:43,655 --> 00:06:45,055 Which reminds me, 121 00:06:45,056 --> 00:06:47,858 you should unpack the boxes today. 122 00:06:49,661 --> 00:06:51,562 I'm so sorry for interrupting 123 00:06:51,563 --> 00:06:54,331 your perfect catalogue existence little life. 124 00:06:54,332 --> 00:06:57,501 I feel like you, um... you thought that was an insult. 125 00:06:57,502 --> 00:06:59,169 You're a freak. You know that, right? 126 00:06:59,170 --> 00:07:00,537 Unpack. 127 00:07:00,538 --> 00:07:02,239 You're like if somebody gave Howard Hughes... 128 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,607 - Unpack.. our boxes. - ...a copy of "Siddhartha" 129 00:07:03,608 --> 00:07:04,908 and he just led with it. 130 00:07:04,909 --> 00:07:06,610 You're like three bottles of piss away 131 00:07:06,611 --> 00:07:08,579 from building a perfect antibacterial chamber. 132 00:07:08,580 --> 00:07:09,880 See? God, these work great. 133 00:07:09,881 --> 00:07:11,415 I can't hear a word you're saying. 134 00:07:11,416 --> 00:07:13,116 You're so annoying. 135 00:07:18,289 --> 00:07:20,791 Your car will be here in 20. 136 00:07:20,792 --> 00:07:22,893 The guys from StrongBox are presenting at 10:00. 137 00:07:22,894 --> 00:07:25,095 - Also... - Do you have the proposal from MultiLink? 138 00:07:25,096 --> 00:07:26,563 It's on your desk, but... 139 00:07:31,369 --> 00:07:32,736 Good morning. 140 00:07:32,737 --> 00:07:34,104 Hey. 141 00:07:34,105 --> 00:07:38,909 Uh, the guys at TuneWorx sent this in today 142 00:07:38,910 --> 00:07:41,545 as a thank-you for the IPO. 143 00:07:41,546 --> 00:07:43,413 They know I play. 144 00:07:43,414 --> 00:07:45,282 Ah. 145 00:07:46,551 --> 00:07:48,418 I talked to the guys at Spyglass. 146 00:07:48,419 --> 00:07:50,988 I thought they weren't taking VC. 147 00:07:50,989 --> 00:07:52,322 If I'm reading it right, 148 00:07:52,323 --> 00:07:54,291 they're going to license the Mosaic code, 149 00:07:54,292 --> 00:07:55,926 and if they take anyone's money, 150 00:07:55,927 --> 00:07:57,360 it should be ours. 151 00:07:58,296 --> 00:08:01,131 Few weeks ago, you weren't interested in a browser play. 152 00:08:01,132 --> 00:08:02,766 Yeah, well, you know, 153 00:08:02,767 --> 00:08:05,135 the right browser could have legs. 154 00:08:12,644 --> 00:08:15,312 Been taking lessons a couple years now. 155 00:08:16,781 --> 00:08:18,749 I mean, I'm a good player. 156 00:08:18,750 --> 00:08:20,751 I'll never be a great player. 157 00:08:20,752 --> 00:08:23,085 Oh, don't say that. 158 00:08:25,823 --> 00:08:27,424 I'll keep you in the loop on Spyglass. 159 00:08:27,425 --> 00:08:28,791 We could tag-team it. 160 00:08:38,102 --> 00:08:39,503 Thanks. 161 00:08:39,504 --> 00:08:43,473 Package came for Cameron. 162 00:08:43,474 --> 00:08:45,309 Great. 163 00:08:45,310 --> 00:08:47,309 More stuff. 164 00:08:48,379 --> 00:08:51,615 It's from Tom. 165 00:08:51,616 --> 00:08:53,516 Just a couple more. 166 00:09:02,226 --> 00:09:04,326 You okay? 167 00:09:07,198 --> 00:09:09,700 Our hands were tied. 168 00:09:09,701 --> 00:09:11,501 We sold high. 169 00:09:11,502 --> 00:09:14,538 Got twice what we thought we would. 170 00:09:14,539 --> 00:09:18,408 Guess you can still navigate the business world 171 00:09:18,409 --> 00:09:19,910 when you're motivated. 172 00:09:19,911 --> 00:09:24,680 We've got capital, blank canvas. 173 00:09:29,687 --> 00:09:32,756 I liked this place. 174 00:09:32,757 --> 00:09:35,559 I know it doesn't feel like it now, but... 175 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:37,860 this is the start of something. 176 00:09:41,099 --> 00:09:43,367 Our 11:00 will be here soon. 177 00:10:06,691 --> 00:10:08,558 What's up? 178 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,528 Joe would like to talk to you about the pro... 179 00:10:11,529 --> 00:10:12,963 The index you made, 180 00:10:12,964 --> 00:10:15,866 the... the... the guide, the comet list thing. 181 00:10:15,867 --> 00:10:17,367 I love it. 182 00:10:17,368 --> 00:10:18,769 Thanks. 183 00:10:18,770 --> 00:10:20,871 More importantly, other people love it. 184 00:10:20,872 --> 00:10:23,473 The traffic is astonishing. 185 00:10:23,474 --> 00:10:25,709 Yeah, honey, it's a really, really good idea. 186 00:10:25,710 --> 00:10:27,878 The idea, obviously, was mine, the indexing. 187 00:10:27,879 --> 00:10:29,880 I did that work by hand over years. 188 00:10:29,881 --> 00:10:31,581 What your dad means to say 189 00:10:31,582 --> 00:10:34,384 is that the execution of that idea is wonderful, 190 00:10:34,385 --> 00:10:35,819 and we want to buy it from you. 191 00:10:35,820 --> 00:10:37,721 Oh, Joe, slow down. 192 00:10:37,722 --> 00:10:38,496 Joe... 193 00:10:38,497 --> 00:10:40,724 I want to build it and make it into something... 194 00:10:40,725 --> 00:10:42,726 real... no offense. 195 00:10:42,727 --> 00:10:45,896 I would migrate it to its own dedicated server immediately 196 00:10:45,897 --> 00:10:47,631 so there is a seamless transition, 197 00:10:47,632 --> 00:10:49,099 no interruption in service. 198 00:10:49,100 --> 00:10:51,435 I would do that today. 199 00:10:51,436 --> 00:10:53,837 I did it already. 200 00:10:53,838 --> 00:10:55,505 You want to buy it? 201 00:10:55,506 --> 00:10:57,307 Uh, what he... Joe's, uh... 202 00:10:57,308 --> 00:10:59,910 Look, you... you did the work, 203 00:10:59,911 --> 00:11:02,579 so it's only natural that we would buy it from you. 204 00:11:02,580 --> 00:11:05,115 That's... That's... That's how these things work. 205 00:11:05,116 --> 00:11:07,150 Okay. Buy it for how much? 206 00:11:07,151 --> 00:11:07,960 We would begin... 207 00:11:07,961 --> 00:11:10,153 I think a reasonable sum would be $20,000. 208 00:11:11,689 --> 00:11:14,157 Can I talk to you real quick? 209 00:11:17,328 --> 00:11:19,796 Look, I thought you were gonna offer her, like, 210 00:11:19,797 --> 00:11:21,765 a-a gift certificate to Blockbuster 211 00:11:21,766 --> 00:11:23,467 or, like, a hundred bucks or something. 212 00:11:23,468 --> 00:11:25,202 You want to low-ball your own daughter? 213 00:11:25,203 --> 00:11:26,870 No, Joe. 214 00:11:26,871 --> 00:11:28,939 You said a "nominal fee," okay? She's 14 years old. 215 00:11:28,940 --> 00:11:32,008 - You can't give a 14-year-old $20,000. - This website has... 216 00:11:32,009 --> 00:11:34,945 - I'm crushing your head. - ...12,000 unique visitors in two weeks. 217 00:11:34,946 --> 00:11:36,279 That's unbelievable. 218 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,781 Ckk, ckk, ckk, ckk, ckk. 219 00:11:37,782 --> 00:11:39,015 Chh, chh! 220 00:11:39,016 --> 00:11:40,517 - Chh! - I don't give a shit. 221 00:11:40,518 --> 00:11:41,785 She's 14 years old. 222 00:11:41,786 --> 00:11:43,220 In 10 years, she'll be 24 years old, 223 00:11:43,221 --> 00:11:44,788 and this idea could be worth a billion dollars. 224 00:11:44,789 --> 00:11:46,056 We're not giving her the money. 225 00:11:46,057 --> 00:11:47,724 Okay? We can come up with another idea 226 00:11:47,725 --> 00:11:49,359 or a trust fund or something, but we're not giving a her... 227 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,794 Yes, that sounds great. 228 00:11:50,795 --> 00:11:52,796 Yeah, we'll put $20,000 in a trust fund. 229 00:11:58,202 --> 00:12:00,170 We talked. 230 00:12:00,171 --> 00:12:04,040 And we think that $5,000... 231 00:12:04,041 --> 00:12:05,475 I don't want money. 232 00:12:05,476 --> 00:12:06,977 I want to work on it. 233 00:12:06,978 --> 00:12:08,411 - Deal. - What? Wh... 234 00:12:08,412 --> 00:12:09,980 I want to be able to come here and work on it 235 00:12:09,981 --> 00:12:11,882 instead of going to school for one period. 236 00:12:11,883 --> 00:12:13,316 Well, we could... 237 00:12:13,317 --> 00:12:14,751 - It can be my independent study. - Mm. 238 00:12:14,752 --> 00:12:16,419 No problem. We'll wire that up right away. 239 00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:18,588 Now, I understand you have to get back to English, 240 00:12:18,589 --> 00:12:21,091 so we're gonna talk about this after school. 241 00:12:21,092 --> 00:12:23,225 Gordon, we'll meet at your place? 242 00:12:24,695 --> 00:12:26,596 Sure. 243 00:12:34,906 --> 00:12:37,674 Is their firewall as strong as it sounds? 244 00:12:37,675 --> 00:12:40,210 Third-generation, application layer. 245 00:12:40,211 --> 00:12:41,511 They're very talented. 246 00:12:41,512 --> 00:12:43,513 Put on a good show, too. 247 00:12:43,514 --> 00:12:45,949 Speaking of putting on a show... 248 00:12:45,950 --> 00:12:48,418 Look at him. 249 00:12:48,419 --> 00:12:51,288 For all his quirks, it's good he's a partner. 250 00:12:51,289 --> 00:12:53,223 He brings in deals. 251 00:12:53,224 --> 00:12:55,859 He's trying to outflank me on the browser front. 252 00:12:55,860 --> 00:12:57,761 Few weeks ago, he shits all over Millennium. 253 00:12:57,762 --> 00:12:59,229 Now he's cozying up to Spyglass? 254 00:12:59,230 --> 00:13:02,265 Well, he didn't mention anything to me. 255 00:13:02,266 --> 00:13:04,768 Maybe he just wants to work with you. 256 00:13:04,769 --> 00:13:06,536 Oh, there's Nina Klein. 257 00:13:06,537 --> 00:13:08,038 I should go say hi. 258 00:13:08,039 --> 00:13:09,940 You go ahead. I'm gonna... 259 00:13:09,941 --> 00:13:12,242 Hey, Donna, well-done. 260 00:13:12,243 --> 00:13:14,009 Really good. 261 00:13:22,053 --> 00:13:24,586 Grab a seat? Yeah, we should. 262 00:13:27,892 --> 00:13:30,727 Well, uh, Joe Lieberman can blow me. 263 00:13:30,728 --> 00:13:32,996 Hey, Doom is just the tip of the iceberg, okay? 264 00:13:32,997 --> 00:13:34,598 That's the future, full stop. 265 00:13:34,599 --> 00:13:36,900 No. Sorry. 266 00:13:36,901 --> 00:13:39,135 I'm not sure I totally agree. 267 00:13:39,136 --> 00:13:40,403 Look, I haven't played Doom, 268 00:13:40,404 --> 00:13:43,073 but it's not because it's so violent, 269 00:13:43,074 --> 00:13:45,108 because to me, it seems boring. 270 00:13:46,344 --> 00:13:47,844 You kidding me? It's addictive. 271 00:13:47,845 --> 00:13:49,112 Yeah, it's a Skinner box... 272 00:13:49,113 --> 00:13:50,063 a lot of these games are. 273 00:13:50,064 --> 00:13:51,848 They're slot machines, so they'll keep you coming back, 274 00:13:51,849 --> 00:13:54,184 but they're not gonna fulfill you in any way. 275 00:13:54,185 --> 00:13:55,452 Look, all I'm saying is, 276 00:13:55,453 --> 00:13:56,820 I think there's room in the future 277 00:13:56,821 --> 00:13:59,255 for more than just gory, first-person shooters. 278 00:13:59,256 --> 00:14:01,491 I think we have another... another question. 279 00:14:01,492 --> 00:14:03,159 This question's for Cameron. 280 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,761 Hi. I was wondering 281 00:14:04,762 --> 00:14:06,930 if you could talk about your new game, Pilgrim. 282 00:14:06,931 --> 00:14:09,099 I saw the release date was changed. 283 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:12,702 Yeah, Atari has been a really supportive partner 284 00:14:12,703 --> 00:14:14,437 in collaborating on this game, 285 00:14:14,438 --> 00:14:17,307 and they are just taking a bit of extra time 286 00:14:17,308 --> 00:14:19,109 to figure out the best strategy. 287 00:14:19,110 --> 00:14:21,544 But, um, it's coming. 288 00:14:21,545 --> 00:14:24,014 I'm excited about it. 289 00:14:24,015 --> 00:14:26,349 I think you will be, too. 290 00:14:26,350 --> 00:14:29,518 Do you have, like, a ballpark time when it'll be done? 291 00:14:31,489 --> 00:14:34,357 It's done now. 292 00:14:34,358 --> 00:14:36,326 In terms of release, 293 00:14:36,327 --> 00:14:39,729 that would be a question for Atari. 294 00:14:39,730 --> 00:14:41,965 Cool thing about games you download, 295 00:14:41,966 --> 00:14:44,534 in terms of release, there's less overhead, 296 00:14:44,535 --> 00:14:48,371 which means less interference, meaning more blood. 297 00:14:50,975 --> 00:14:53,677 Do we have any other questions... 298 00:14:53,678 --> 00:14:55,011 Yeah, I mean... 299 00:14:55,012 --> 00:14:57,147 Yeah, anytime you can cut out a middle man, 300 00:14:57,148 --> 00:14:58,748 it's a good thing, right? 301 00:14:58,749 --> 00:15:01,084 Like I said, I have a great relationship with Atari, 302 00:15:01,085 --> 00:15:02,352 a lot of mutual respect, 303 00:15:02,353 --> 00:15:05,355 but there have been times in my career 304 00:15:05,356 --> 00:15:08,158 where my choices were not as respected. 305 00:15:08,159 --> 00:15:09,993 W... Okay. 306 00:15:09,994 --> 00:15:11,995 If there aren't, uh, any more questions, 307 00:15:11,996 --> 00:15:14,030 I think that about does it for us. 308 00:15:14,031 --> 00:15:15,832 Uh, thank you all for coming. 309 00:15:15,833 --> 00:15:17,167 Um, thanks to our guests, Tommy and... 310 00:15:17,168 --> 00:15:20,837 I have a question for Ms. Howe. 311 00:15:20,838 --> 00:15:22,706 Hello, Donna. 312 00:15:22,707 --> 00:15:25,008 I was hoping you could talk a bit about 313 00:15:25,009 --> 00:15:28,378 the relationship between a creator, such as yourself, 314 00:15:28,379 --> 00:15:30,580 and the business side of gaming. 315 00:15:30,581 --> 00:15:32,082 You seemed to indicate earlier 316 00:15:32,083 --> 00:15:33,883 that there was some difficulty for you there, 317 00:15:33,884 --> 00:15:35,185 and I was wondering if you felt 318 00:15:35,186 --> 00:15:37,721 you had any culpability in that. 319 00:15:37,722 --> 00:15:41,524 Well, it's inherently a fraught relationship, right? 320 00:15:41,525 --> 00:15:44,027 Huh. How so? 321 00:15:44,028 --> 00:15:45,595 Well, in that we have the ability 322 00:15:45,596 --> 00:15:47,263 to create something out of nothing, 323 00:15:47,264 --> 00:15:49,799 and that can be threatening to people on the business side 324 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,935 because... they can't. 325 00:15:51,936 --> 00:15:55,405 Well, in my experience... and, granted, 326 00:15:55,406 --> 00:15:57,040 I'm not the one up there onstage 327 00:15:57,041 --> 00:16:00,744 at the Menlo Internet Strategy Conference... 328 00:16:01,764 --> 00:16:03,947 ...but in my experience, someone on the business side 329 00:16:03,948 --> 00:16:07,450 could help shepherd a project that's meandering or... 330 00:16:07,451 --> 00:16:08,952 headed off a cliff. 331 00:16:08,953 --> 00:16:10,820 Could be an ally, no? 332 00:16:10,821 --> 00:16:13,990 Seems like that relationship should be symbiotic. 333 00:16:16,327 --> 00:16:18,294 I would say it's parasitic. 334 00:16:18,295 --> 00:16:21,598 There's little regard for the well being of the host 335 00:16:21,599 --> 00:16:24,434 because a parasite can always scuttle away, 336 00:16:24,435 --> 00:16:26,302 on to the next warm body. 337 00:16:30,574 --> 00:16:32,742 Ok-Okay. 338 00:16:32,743 --> 00:16:34,911 I think that does it. We are, uh... We're out of time. 339 00:16:34,912 --> 00:16:36,246 Thank you all for coming. 340 00:16:36,247 --> 00:16:37,277 Thank you for your questions, 341 00:16:37,278 --> 00:16:39,582 and I hope we get a chance to meet some of you outside. 342 00:16:53,981 --> 00:16:56,384 Well, yes, I'm going to make the monthly. 343 00:16:56,385 --> 00:16:58,519 I-I'm at the mercy of the pay schedule here. 344 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,153 It's a consultant position. 345 00:17:01,457 --> 00:17:03,124 - How was... - Fine. It was fine. 346 00:17:03,125 --> 00:17:05,493 - Yes. - Do we have an update? 347 00:17:05,494 --> 00:17:07,962 The algorithm is continuing to pick up new pages. 348 00:17:07,963 --> 00:17:09,797 It's effectively charting the web. 349 00:17:09,798 --> 00:17:11,232 Okay. 350 00:17:11,233 --> 00:17:13,134 We're only searching URLs and page headings but... 351 00:17:13,135 --> 00:17:15,370 Why can't we search the body of the page? 352 00:17:15,371 --> 00:17:17,238 That's the ultimate goal, of course. 353 00:17:17,239 --> 00:17:18,840 - We're just not quite there yet. - It's too much data. 354 00:17:18,841 --> 00:17:20,141 W-With... With current bandwidth, 355 00:17:20,142 --> 00:17:21,676 everything just grinds to a halt. 356 00:17:21,677 --> 00:17:24,312 How effectively can we search titles? 357 00:17:24,313 --> 00:17:26,080 Very effectively, 358 00:17:26,081 --> 00:17:28,149 but the title doesn't always correspond 359 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:29,984 with, um, what's on the site, 360 00:17:29,985 --> 00:17:31,986 so the results are... 361 00:17:31,987 --> 00:17:34,989 You keep giving me bad news with a smile on your face. 362 00:17:34,990 --> 00:17:36,691 Do you know that you're doing that? 363 00:17:38,827 --> 00:17:41,162 You guys are invested in this, right? 364 00:17:41,163 --> 00:17:44,031 Well, they have been up all night working on it. 365 00:17:44,032 --> 00:17:47,501 And what do you have to show for it? 366 00:17:53,409 --> 00:17:56,778 Let's search "president." 367 00:18:01,083 --> 00:18:02,583 No Clinton. 368 00:18:02,584 --> 00:18:04,018 Well... 369 00:18:04,019 --> 00:18:06,621 What I see are generic president results. 370 00:18:06,622 --> 00:18:08,790 My guess is that somewhere buried among them 371 00:18:08,791 --> 00:18:11,759 are results about the current leader of the free world, 372 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,262 which is what I assume people are looking for 373 00:18:14,263 --> 00:18:16,097 when they type in "president." 374 00:18:16,098 --> 00:18:20,802 What we need is a sophisticated rules engine in place. 375 00:18:20,803 --> 00:18:24,539 What I see is no rules engine at all. 376 00:18:24,540 --> 00:18:28,376 You do know I used to be an engineer, right? 377 00:18:28,377 --> 00:18:31,879 They don't know what's expected of them 378 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,548 unless you tell them. 379 00:18:33,549 --> 00:18:36,551 I am counting on you to make it clear 380 00:18:36,552 --> 00:18:39,153 just how little time they have to get this right. 381 00:18:39,154 --> 00:18:41,556 Okay? 382 00:18:41,557 --> 00:18:44,058 Okay. 383 00:18:49,431 --> 00:18:51,065 Oh, yeah. Cool. 384 00:18:51,066 --> 00:18:53,334 Okay. Pull it up, let's take a look. 385 00:18:54,603 --> 00:18:56,404 I changed the header. 386 00:18:56,405 --> 00:18:58,439 Oh, yeah. I like that. It's Comet. 387 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,674 It sounds like vomit. 388 00:18:59,675 --> 00:19:01,075 Don't listen to her. 389 00:19:01,076 --> 00:19:03,611 It conveys speed, a sense of wonder. 390 00:19:03,612 --> 00:19:05,813 - What is this? - It's... Joe and Haley 391 00:19:05,814 --> 00:19:08,015 are working on Haley's website project. 392 00:19:08,016 --> 00:19:10,418 It's replacing my independent-study credit. 393 00:19:10,419 --> 00:19:12,854 What? She gets to miss school for this? 394 00:19:12,855 --> 00:19:14,255 I want to miss school. 395 00:19:14,256 --> 00:19:15,490 You do miss school, 396 00:19:15,491 --> 00:19:16,824 you just don't tell anyone about it. 397 00:19:16,825 --> 00:19:18,626 Hardy-har-har. 398 00:19:18,627 --> 00:19:20,261 Hey, you know, I think it would be helpful 399 00:19:20,262 --> 00:19:23,030 if, like, we started out with a bunch of categories, 400 00:19:23,031 --> 00:19:24,532 and then... 401 00:19:24,533 --> 00:19:26,167 But we don't want to make it seem dry, you know? 402 00:19:26,168 --> 00:19:27,468 We don't want to make it feel like 403 00:19:27,469 --> 00:19:29,437 anyone could have organized this. 404 00:19:29,438 --> 00:19:32,206 Right. Yeah, it's a dumb idea. 405 00:19:32,207 --> 00:19:33,941 No, no, what's so great about what you've done 406 00:19:33,942 --> 00:19:35,476 is its personal touch, 407 00:19:35,477 --> 00:19:38,279 the feeling that there is a person on the other side, 408 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,481 creating this experience for you. 409 00:19:40,482 --> 00:19:42,617 - Yeah. That's what I meant... - Mom know about this? 410 00:19:42,618 --> 00:19:44,852 No, she does not yet, but I will be the one 411 00:19:44,853 --> 00:19:47,622 to give her that information, thank you very much. 412 00:19:47,623 --> 00:19:48,956 ...like education or something. 413 00:19:48,957 --> 00:19:50,391 Can I watch? 414 00:19:50,392 --> 00:19:51,826 ...like informational sites... 415 00:19:51,827 --> 00:19:53,294 Why don't we go, uh, 416 00:19:53,295 --> 00:19:55,029 caving in upstate New York, you know, spelunking? 417 00:19:55,030 --> 00:19:57,498 You're literally shouting nonsense. 418 00:19:57,499 --> 00:19:59,700 I got all this stuff, you know, 419 00:19:59,701 --> 00:20:01,202 and... and I've got time now. 420 00:20:01,203 --> 00:20:03,204 We should go on an adventure. 421 00:20:03,205 --> 00:20:05,172 I don't want to go to a cave. 422 00:20:05,173 --> 00:20:06,407 Well, look, Haley... 423 00:20:06,408 --> 00:20:07,675 Um... 424 00:20:07,676 --> 00:20:09,243 ...spelunking? 425 00:20:09,244 --> 00:20:10,645 You remember that project you did about stalactites? 426 00:20:10,646 --> 00:20:15,850 I'm cool with whatever you want, Dad. 427 00:20:15,851 --> 00:20:18,052 Oh, that T-shirt. 428 00:20:18,053 --> 00:20:19,487 That's wild, 429 00:20:19,488 --> 00:20:21,088 I was listening to Ritual on the way over here. 430 00:20:21,089 --> 00:20:22,356 Mm. 431 00:20:22,357 --> 00:20:23,925 Please don't try. 432 00:20:23,926 --> 00:20:26,060 Wh-What about fly-fishing in Jackson Hole? 433 00:20:26,061 --> 00:20:27,828 Oh, hey! Someone just sent me a new link to put in our index. 434 00:20:27,829 --> 00:20:31,165 It's, um, Smuth-ut. 435 00:20:31,166 --> 00:20:34,936 You know, Joanie, we could actually use your input here. 436 00:20:34,937 --> 00:20:40,541 What would make a website seem, you know, cool to you? 437 00:20:40,542 --> 00:20:41,842 Well, I think it's pretty cool 438 00:20:41,843 --> 00:20:43,344 on "America's Funniest Home Videos" 439 00:20:43,345 --> 00:20:44,845 when guys get hit in the nuts. 440 00:20:44,846 --> 00:20:46,447 That's a great idea. 441 00:20:47,916 --> 00:20:50,585 It's like some kind of construction thing. 442 00:20:50,586 --> 00:20:52,587 We should do this. The Appalachian Trail! 443 00:20:52,588 --> 00:20:53,779 Next summer. 444 00:20:53,780 --> 00:20:55,556 We can do the hundred-mile wilderness of Maine! 445 00:20:55,557 --> 00:20:57,124 - Oh, n... - Oh, my God. 446 00:20:57,125 --> 00:20:58,793 - Oh! - Oh! Whoa! - Hey! Hey! 447 00:20:58,794 --> 00:21:01,195 - Take down that... - Sorry. I'm taking it down! 448 00:21:01,196 --> 00:21:03,064 - Turn it off! Shut it down. Shut it... - Whoa. 449 00:21:03,065 --> 00:21:04,799 - Yeah! - I'm sorry. 450 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,367 - Turn it off. - Oh, there's another head! 451 00:21:06,368 --> 00:21:08,069 - Take it off! - Ugh! - Whoo! 452 00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:09,804 - There's another head. - Hide your eyes. 453 00:21:09,805 --> 00:21:11,572 - I'm not looking! - She's too precious, you guys. 454 00:21:11,573 --> 00:21:13,207 Get off of me! 455 00:21:13,208 --> 00:21:14,642 God. 456 00:21:14,643 --> 00:21:17,244 Okay, look, that is inappropriate. 457 00:21:17,245 --> 00:21:19,946 Mm-hmm. 458 00:21:21,416 --> 00:21:23,384 Yeah. 459 00:21:23,385 --> 00:21:25,219 Yes, uh... 460 00:21:25,220 --> 00:21:29,490 Yeah, let's sit down next week and talk about it. 461 00:21:29,491 --> 00:21:30,925 I'll have Tanya 462 00:21:30,926 --> 00:21:34,095 or... um, Ashley give you a call with times. 463 00:21:34,096 --> 00:21:35,663 Okay. You, too. Bye. 464 00:21:37,566 --> 00:21:41,602 What were you and, uh, Richie Sambora talking about? 465 00:21:41,603 --> 00:21:43,604 His summer vacation plans. 466 00:21:43,605 --> 00:21:45,840 Oh, well, that must have been riveting. 467 00:21:45,841 --> 00:21:47,441 Stop talking about Trip. 468 00:21:47,442 --> 00:21:50,077 I don't want to talk about Trip anymore. 469 00:21:50,078 --> 00:21:51,479 Okay. 470 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,181 He is an asset and a partner in this firm, Donna. 471 00:21:54,182 --> 00:21:56,283 Yeah, I understand that. 472 00:21:56,284 --> 00:21:59,253 I guess I was just trying to make sure 473 00:21:59,254 --> 00:22:00,955 that someone had my back. 474 00:22:00,956 --> 00:22:02,623 You know this office is a boys' club. 475 00:22:02,624 --> 00:22:04,458 It is a boys' club, 476 00:22:04,459 --> 00:22:07,695 and I made managing partner without anyone holding my hand. 477 00:22:07,696 --> 00:22:09,997 Does he have an advantage? Of course he does. 478 00:22:09,998 --> 00:22:11,699 But that has nothing to do with you. 479 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:14,268 Your success here is based on results, 480 00:22:14,269 --> 00:22:17,371 and I don't think you kicking the crap out of your team 481 00:22:17,372 --> 00:22:18,873 is the way to get 'em. 482 00:22:18,874 --> 00:22:20,274 I came in here to tell you 483 00:22:20,275 --> 00:22:22,643 that your girl from the Rover team... 484 00:22:22,644 --> 00:22:24,844 she was crying in the stairwell just now. 485 00:22:26,281 --> 00:22:30,784 You might want to consider a lighter touch. 486 00:22:43,198 --> 00:22:44,865 Okay. Here we go... 487 00:22:44,866 --> 00:22:46,300 - Okay. - So... 488 00:22:46,301 --> 00:22:47,868 Listen, I heard what you said 489 00:22:47,869 --> 00:22:49,203 about strategy, and I... 490 00:22:49,204 --> 00:22:50,871 I'm sorry, let me... 491 00:22:50,872 --> 00:22:52,540 I think we should go first here. 492 00:22:52,541 --> 00:22:54,875 Unfortunately, we don't know how this happened, 493 00:22:54,876 --> 00:22:56,877 but someone at Electronic Gaming Monthly 494 00:22:56,878 --> 00:22:58,679 got a hold of Pilgrim. 495 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,914 You're kidding. 496 00:22:59,915 --> 00:23:01,515 A review came out today, 497 00:23:01,516 --> 00:23:03,884 and we got our hands on an advanced copy. 498 00:23:03,885 --> 00:23:06,452 How is it? 499 00:23:07,389 --> 00:23:11,092 It wasn't good, to be honest. 500 00:23:13,328 --> 00:23:14,762 We were all rooting for this game, 501 00:23:14,763 --> 00:23:16,263 and you know how fond we are 502 00:23:16,264 --> 00:23:18,432 of you and all the work that you've done. 503 00:23:19,935 --> 00:23:22,103 Are you just gonna sit on it? 504 00:23:22,104 --> 00:23:24,905 Releasing it in its current form 505 00:23:24,906 --> 00:23:27,742 isn't a viable strategy at this point. 506 00:23:27,743 --> 00:23:31,112 That's crazy. 507 00:23:33,915 --> 00:23:35,516 What did it say? 508 00:23:35,517 --> 00:23:37,918 I'll let you read it. 509 00:23:49,631 --> 00:23:51,132 I promise, 510 00:23:51,133 --> 00:23:53,264 our lawyers are gonna get into it with the reviewer, 511 00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:55,736 and whoever gave him the game will be dealt with. 512 00:23:57,739 --> 00:24:01,142 I gave it to him. 513 00:24:15,114 --> 00:24:17,107 I want to spruce up the interface... 514 00:24:17,108 --> 00:24:21,234 not too slick, but it should be, like, clean and efficient. 515 00:24:21,879 --> 00:24:24,214 And we should spread awareness on the message boards. 516 00:24:24,215 --> 00:24:26,550 Print ads, too, might be worth a look down the road. 517 00:24:26,551 --> 00:24:29,319 You seem really excited about this. 518 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,888 I mean, you should run with it. 519 00:24:31,889 --> 00:24:33,756 Absolutely. I'm committed to this. 520 00:24:35,727 --> 00:24:39,162 No, I mean, uh, you should take it. 521 00:24:39,163 --> 00:24:42,766 Write Haley a check and... and take it. 522 00:24:42,767 --> 00:24:45,335 Is this about Smut Hut? I'll make my e-mail the contact for the site. 523 00:24:45,336 --> 00:24:47,170 No, no. It's... It's not. 524 00:24:47,171 --> 00:24:48,905 It's just, uh... 525 00:24:48,906 --> 00:24:51,408 it's a lot of things, okay? 526 00:24:51,409 --> 00:24:54,410 I'm not sure that I want this for her. 527 00:24:55,847 --> 00:24:59,983 Oh, um... okay. 528 00:24:59,984 --> 00:25:03,285 Uh... You know, Gordon... 529 00:25:05,256 --> 00:25:08,859 ...I want us to do this together. 530 00:25:08,860 --> 00:25:11,328 You can't sit still any more than I can. 531 00:25:11,329 --> 00:25:14,097 - Joe, I haven't been sitting still. - You know? 532 00:25:14,098 --> 00:25:16,266 I've been busting my ass, working on things, 533 00:25:16,267 --> 00:25:17,634 things that I care about, 534 00:25:17,635 --> 00:25:19,002 and just to let you know, 535 00:25:19,003 --> 00:25:20,504 I have been doing it without your help. 536 00:25:20,505 --> 00:25:22,005 - And I'm sorry about that. - Mm-hmm. 537 00:25:22,006 --> 00:25:24,608 It's a big shift, you know, 538 00:25:24,609 --> 00:25:26,777 and... and it happened fast and... 539 00:25:26,778 --> 00:25:29,379 Nothing's shifted for you, Joe. 540 00:25:29,380 --> 00:25:32,616 You've had your eyes locked on this, 541 00:25:32,617 --> 00:25:35,352 on the web, the whole time. 542 00:25:35,353 --> 00:25:37,654 You push people, Joe. 543 00:25:37,655 --> 00:25:39,056 You did it at Cardiff. 544 00:25:39,057 --> 00:25:40,624 You did it at WestGroup. 545 00:25:40,625 --> 00:25:42,326 You do it all the time. 546 00:25:42,327 --> 00:25:45,228 You decide what's right for a company or a person 547 00:25:45,229 --> 00:25:49,366 and you push them whether they're ready for it or not, 548 00:25:49,367 --> 00:25:51,835 and I can tell you right now, 549 00:25:51,836 --> 00:25:54,270 Haley's not ready for it. 550 00:26:00,311 --> 00:26:03,580 Oh, shit. 551 00:26:03,581 --> 00:26:06,149 I should go. 552 00:26:12,924 --> 00:26:15,258 Oh, you didn't have to do that. 553 00:26:15,259 --> 00:26:19,730 Trip asked me to bring this to you. 554 00:26:19,731 --> 00:26:21,498 Letter bomb? 555 00:26:22,734 --> 00:26:24,401 I'm gonna put this in the fridge. 556 00:26:24,402 --> 00:26:27,371 Do you need me to do anything? 557 00:26:27,372 --> 00:26:29,506 Uh, no, just, uh... 558 00:26:29,507 --> 00:26:32,509 pour yourself something. 559 00:26:45,690 --> 00:26:47,290 Knock, knock. 560 00:26:47,291 --> 00:26:50,594 Hey, Bos, thanks for coming. 561 00:26:50,595 --> 00:26:52,295 Well, sure, it should be fun. 562 00:26:52,296 --> 00:26:53,730 I just felt bad. 563 00:26:53,731 --> 00:26:56,700 I was such a... I had a crappy morning. 564 00:26:56,701 --> 00:26:58,201 I figured... 565 00:26:58,202 --> 00:27:01,738 a little unwinding would be good for morale. 566 00:27:01,739 --> 00:27:03,540 Oh, no, look, I get it. 567 00:27:03,541 --> 00:27:05,308 The kids are gonna get whiplash, though, 568 00:27:05,309 --> 00:27:07,644 well, you laying 'em out one minute 569 00:27:07,645 --> 00:27:10,113 and invitin' them to dinner the next. 570 00:27:10,114 --> 00:27:11,915 But... 571 00:27:11,916 --> 00:27:15,719 Hey, um, you know you can always come directly to me 572 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,789 if there's ever any trouble with Rover, right? 573 00:27:20,291 --> 00:27:22,292 - Trouble? - Hello! 574 00:27:22,293 --> 00:27:23,994 Hey! There they are! 575 00:27:23,995 --> 00:27:25,495 - Hey. - Come on in! 576 00:27:27,331 --> 00:27:30,967 You can, uh, grab yourself something to drink, 577 00:27:30,968 --> 00:27:33,503 and there's... Oh, come here. 578 00:27:33,504 --> 00:27:36,139 Pizza's on the way. 579 00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:38,108 Hi. Hi. 580 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,980 Wow. 581 00:27:43,981 --> 00:27:45,682 - It's a really nice home. - Look at that. 582 00:27:45,683 --> 00:27:48,485 - Cab? Scotch? - Oh, no, thank you. 583 00:27:49,754 --> 00:27:53,088 "A ponderous mess." 584 00:27:55,593 --> 00:27:56,960 Oh. 585 00:27:56,961 --> 00:27:59,162 "It's Howe's ego-encasing strategy 586 00:27:59,163 --> 00:28:01,264 to put any understanding of the game 587 00:28:01,265 --> 00:28:02,766 completely out of reach, 588 00:28:02,767 --> 00:28:04,768 and then blame the user 589 00:28:04,769 --> 00:28:06,703 when they are unable to grasp it. 590 00:28:06,704 --> 00:28:09,706 Let me assure my readers, you are not missing anything, 591 00:28:09,707 --> 00:28:14,678 for this game simply isn't any fun." 592 00:28:14,679 --> 00:28:18,615 Why did you send it to 'em? 593 00:28:18,616 --> 00:28:22,151 I thought it was good. 594 00:28:24,622 --> 00:28:28,058 It's just one review. 595 00:28:28,059 --> 00:28:30,727 It's not. It's the review. 596 00:28:30,728 --> 00:28:31,995 It's... 597 00:28:31,996 --> 00:28:34,197 God, the focus-group testing... 598 00:28:34,198 --> 00:28:35,532 even you didn't like it. 599 00:28:35,533 --> 00:28:37,133 I haven't finished it yet. 600 00:28:37,134 --> 00:28:40,804 What did they say, what... what... what's... 601 00:28:40,805 --> 00:28:44,407 They're gonna take the game, take the code, 602 00:28:44,408 --> 00:28:47,210 give it to some guy, retool it, 603 00:28:47,211 --> 00:28:51,815 add... I don't know... probably a big-titted mercenary 604 00:28:51,816 --> 00:28:55,418 decapitating people or something. 605 00:28:55,419 --> 00:28:57,786 Hey, hey, hey, look at me. 606 00:29:05,396 --> 00:29:07,697 You are full of ideas, 607 00:29:07,698 --> 00:29:12,602 and you are going to make a lot of games that people love. 608 00:29:12,603 --> 00:29:15,672 You need to put this behind you, 609 00:29:15,673 --> 00:29:18,641 start fresh, and move on. 610 00:29:24,081 --> 00:29:27,182 It's not that easy for me. 611 00:29:33,291 --> 00:29:35,792 I need to, uh, take a breather, 612 00:29:35,793 --> 00:29:38,594 just be by myself for a sec, okay? 613 00:29:57,882 --> 00:29:59,983 Well, here comes my famous salad. 614 00:30:01,586 --> 00:30:03,720 There's candied walnuts in it. That's the secret. 615 00:30:03,721 --> 00:30:05,255 Well, it's safe with me. 616 00:30:05,256 --> 00:30:07,591 Hey, monkey. 617 00:30:07,592 --> 00:30:08,925 Everything okay? 618 00:30:08,926 --> 00:30:10,961 No. Dad's being a dick. 619 00:30:10,962 --> 00:30:13,096 Can I stay here tonight? 620 00:30:13,097 --> 00:30:15,465 Uh, yeah, sure. 621 00:30:15,466 --> 00:30:18,301 Joanie, this is everyone. Everyone, Joanie. 622 00:30:18,302 --> 00:30:21,504 Do you want some pizza? 623 00:30:21,505 --> 00:30:23,073 Oh. 624 00:30:23,074 --> 00:30:24,975 She made her famous salad. 625 00:30:24,976 --> 00:30:27,010 Did she call it her "famous salad"? 626 00:30:34,518 --> 00:30:36,686 At work today, I found a website... 627 00:30:36,687 --> 00:30:38,788 Guys, we don't have to talk about work. 628 00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:40,790 This is fun. You're not on the clock. 629 00:30:40,791 --> 00:30:42,158 Well, if we're not gonna talk about work, 630 00:30:42,159 --> 00:30:43,426 what we gonna talk about? 631 00:30:43,427 --> 00:30:45,595 Okay. All right. I'm sorry. 632 00:30:45,596 --> 00:30:47,497 Well, I have an update. 633 00:30:47,498 --> 00:30:49,132 Uh, the problem we were having, 634 00:30:49,133 --> 00:30:50,767 the... the president problem... 635 00:30:50,768 --> 00:30:52,769 - Mm-hmm. - ...Cecil came up with a fix. 636 00:30:52,770 --> 00:30:54,537 A... A temporary solution. 637 00:30:54,538 --> 00:30:57,140 Uh, Vera implemented basic inference rules 638 00:30:57,141 --> 00:30:58,775 that complement the Boolean logic, 639 00:30:58,776 --> 00:31:01,511 so when you type "president" without "Clinton," 640 00:31:01,512 --> 00:31:03,179 you get relevant results. 641 00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:05,148 "Rock" will give you climbing and music, 642 00:31:05,149 --> 00:31:07,217 "chicken" will give you Parmesan. 643 00:31:07,218 --> 00:31:09,552 It's a Band-Aid, but it works for now. 644 00:31:11,188 --> 00:31:15,558 Well, what if we typed in "dinner-table conversation"? 645 00:31:19,063 --> 00:31:21,231 Mm-hmm. 646 00:31:24,068 --> 00:31:26,036 Okay. 647 00:31:26,037 --> 00:31:27,971 Okay. 648 00:31:27,972 --> 00:31:30,473 All right, I didn't want to have to do this, 649 00:31:30,474 --> 00:31:32,342 but apparently, I do. 650 00:31:32,343 --> 00:31:34,377 Oh. Look out. Look out. 651 00:31:34,378 --> 00:31:35,812 Here come the big guns. 652 00:31:37,181 --> 00:31:39,249 Oh, shit. 653 00:31:40,651 --> 00:31:44,688 But we are going to relax. 654 00:31:44,689 --> 00:31:48,224 We are gonna have fun. 655 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,828 We are all going to forget about 656 00:31:51,829 --> 00:31:53,830 what a jerk I was this morning. 657 00:31:53,831 --> 00:31:55,598 - Can I have one? - Oh, yeah, right. 658 00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:56,900 Uh, I'm okay, thanks. 659 00:31:56,901 --> 00:31:58,601 No. Unh-unh. This is mandatory. 660 00:31:58,602 --> 00:32:00,070 Unless you're pregnant, 661 00:32:00,071 --> 00:32:02,072 I don't want to hear another word about it. 662 00:32:10,581 --> 00:32:13,750 Oh, my... Oh, my God. 663 00:32:13,751 --> 00:32:15,418 - I'm... I'm so sorry. - No. It's okay. 664 00:32:16,754 --> 00:32:18,455 Nice one, Mom. 665 00:32:19,857 --> 00:32:21,524 Well, I guess, um... 666 00:32:21,525 --> 00:32:23,560 We're pregnant. 667 00:32:23,561 --> 00:32:24,794 What? 668 00:32:24,795 --> 00:32:27,297 Hey! 669 00:32:27,298 --> 00:32:29,265 Well, congratulations, for God's sake. 670 00:32:29,266 --> 00:32:31,034 - Thank you. - Salud! 671 00:32:31,035 --> 00:32:33,536 Oh, my God. That was so rude. 672 00:32:33,537 --> 00:32:35,538 It's completely okay, please. 673 00:32:35,539 --> 00:32:38,041 Okay, well, let me at least propose a toast, then, 674 00:32:38,042 --> 00:32:42,712 after that horrible, invasive, horribleness. 675 00:32:46,050 --> 00:32:50,954 I remember when I was pregnant with that one... 676 00:32:50,955 --> 00:32:53,056 she loves it when I do this... 677 00:32:53,057 --> 00:32:57,627 I was working at Radio Shack so I could get a discount on parts, 678 00:32:57,628 --> 00:33:01,464 Joanie's dad and I were building our first computer, 679 00:33:01,465 --> 00:33:05,401 and I was terrified that my boss would find out. 680 00:33:05,402 --> 00:33:07,270 So I went to a thrift store 681 00:33:07,271 --> 00:33:10,774 and I bought just the biggest, baggiest sweaters I could find. 682 00:33:10,775 --> 00:33:13,276 Anyway, months go by, 683 00:33:13,277 --> 00:33:16,279 and I think I've got this guy completely fooled, 684 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:21,284 and then one day, he leans over to me very casually, 685 00:33:21,285 --> 00:33:22,786 and he says, 686 00:33:22,787 --> 00:33:26,923 "Before you know it, they'll be grown. 687 00:33:26,924 --> 00:33:31,327 You kiss that baby every chance you get." 688 00:33:37,835 --> 00:33:39,969 Well, he was right. 689 00:33:43,808 --> 00:33:47,310 Anyway, 690 00:33:47,311 --> 00:33:51,047 you don't have to wear any giant sweaters around me... 691 00:33:51,048 --> 00:33:53,483 ...but... 692 00:33:55,486 --> 00:34:00,690 You kiss that baby every chance you get. 693 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,161 I'm so happy for you. 694 00:34:05,162 --> 00:34:07,530 - Cheers. - Hey. 695 00:34:07,531 --> 00:34:08,832 - Cheers. - Cheers. - Cheers. - Cheers. 696 00:34:08,833 --> 00:34:10,500 Here's to baby-smooching, then. 697 00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:13,503 - To baby-smooching. - Sure! 698 00:34:13,504 --> 00:34:14,737 - Cheers. - Salud. 699 00:34:14,738 --> 00:34:17,473 Cheers. 700 00:34:20,578 --> 00:34:23,679 There you are, you little shit. 701 00:34:47,171 --> 00:34:49,405 Ohh! Hey. 702 00:34:51,675 --> 00:34:53,509 Sorry, I just needed someplace to play. 703 00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:54,844 I'll get out of your hair. 704 00:34:54,845 --> 00:34:58,081 You playing Doom? 705 00:34:58,082 --> 00:34:59,349 Yeah. 706 00:35:00,918 --> 00:35:04,921 Yeah, I guess this is where everything's going. 707 00:35:04,922 --> 00:35:07,924 You just... kill everything. 708 00:35:07,925 --> 00:35:10,192 It's pretty awesome, right? 709 00:35:11,128 --> 00:35:13,029 Yeah. 710 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:15,632 You've played? 711 00:35:15,633 --> 00:35:19,402 Yeah. Pretty good at it, too. 712 00:35:19,403 --> 00:35:21,137 Deathmatch? 713 00:35:27,416 --> 00:35:30,653 God! 714 00:35:34,124 --> 00:35:36,024 Gordon, move! 715 00:35:37,327 --> 00:35:39,295 You do know the object of the game 716 00:35:39,296 --> 00:35:41,397 is to not die, right? 717 00:35:41,398 --> 00:35:42,665 Ugh! You bastard! 718 00:35:48,872 --> 00:35:51,140 So, I, um... 719 00:35:51,141 --> 00:35:53,910 I'm sorry about the divorce. 720 00:35:55,345 --> 00:35:58,347 Yeah. Thank you. 721 00:36:00,150 --> 00:36:04,253 There is something cathartic about it. 722 00:36:04,254 --> 00:36:05,588 You bet your ass. 723 00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:08,424 It's that you get to be divorced afterwards. 724 00:36:08,425 --> 00:36:11,727 I was talking about the game. 725 00:36:11,728 --> 00:36:15,331 Oh, um, yeah, yeah. 726 00:36:17,935 --> 00:36:20,668 So, how you dealing with all of it? 727 00:36:22,339 --> 00:36:24,740 Good. 728 00:36:24,741 --> 00:36:27,743 You know, for me and Donna, it was, uh... 729 00:36:27,744 --> 00:36:31,180 you know, those last few months, 730 00:36:31,181 --> 00:36:34,750 the process and just getting everything untangled. 731 00:36:34,751 --> 00:36:36,552 - It was... - Oh, my God. 732 00:36:36,553 --> 00:36:37,954 It was really hard. 733 00:36:37,955 --> 00:36:41,457 Yeah, I can imagine, with kids. 734 00:36:41,458 --> 00:36:45,361 For Tom and I, it's been, you know, 735 00:36:45,362 --> 00:36:49,365 as good as it can be, I guess, but still, it's... 736 00:36:49,366 --> 00:36:52,768 That reminds me, um, you got a package out there. 737 00:36:52,769 --> 00:36:54,103 Joe forgot to take it with him. 738 00:36:54,104 --> 00:36:55,771 Oh, I... Okay. 739 00:36:55,772 --> 00:36:58,240 I'll take it on my way out. 740 00:36:59,776 --> 00:37:01,342 So, how's Joe? 741 00:37:02,279 --> 00:37:04,213 Good. 742 00:37:04,214 --> 00:37:10,653 I mean, you know, who knows, but right now... 743 00:37:10,654 --> 00:37:11,954 good. 744 00:37:11,955 --> 00:37:14,490 Think you guys'll ever work together again? 745 00:37:14,491 --> 00:37:16,392 No. 746 00:37:16,393 --> 00:37:19,228 That's a minefield. 747 00:37:19,229 --> 00:37:20,963 Oh, he, uh, is really pumped 748 00:37:20,964 --> 00:37:23,566 about this Comet thing, though. He showed me. 749 00:37:23,567 --> 00:37:24,834 It's really cool. 750 00:37:24,835 --> 00:37:26,402 I just can't believe little Haley is... 751 00:37:26,403 --> 00:37:28,804 Yeah, I told him to move on without us. 752 00:37:28,805 --> 00:37:31,140 Why? 753 00:37:31,141 --> 00:37:33,609 I don't know, I... 754 00:37:33,610 --> 00:37:36,445 Joanie says it's 'cause I'm jealous. 755 00:37:36,446 --> 00:37:38,481 Is she right? 756 00:37:38,482 --> 00:37:40,683 Maybe. 757 00:37:40,684 --> 00:37:44,620 Maybe I'm just jealous that they had a new idea. 758 00:37:44,621 --> 00:37:47,256 I mean, I'm definitely jealous 759 00:37:47,257 --> 00:37:49,091 that I'm not a kid anymore. 760 00:37:49,092 --> 00:37:52,528 You know, all that time you spend worrying about 761 00:37:52,529 --> 00:37:55,031 wasting it on the wrong project, 762 00:37:55,032 --> 00:37:59,100 or the... you know, the wrong person. 763 00:38:00,037 --> 00:38:03,839 It's hard to think of a better way to spend your time 764 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,142 than working with her on something she cares about. 765 00:38:10,614 --> 00:38:14,183 I wish my dad could have seen me be good at something. 766 00:38:16,820 --> 00:38:20,523 Look, your teenage daughter wants to hang out with you. 767 00:38:20,524 --> 00:38:21,991 That doesn't happen. 768 00:38:21,992 --> 00:38:25,127 Yeah, I know, but... 769 00:38:27,464 --> 00:38:31,033 You don't have to worry about her turning out like me. 770 00:38:31,034 --> 00:38:35,171 She has two awesome parents looking out for her. 771 00:38:35,172 --> 00:38:37,673 You've even got a mug to prove it. 772 00:38:47,484 --> 00:38:49,585 Cameron! 773 00:38:49,586 --> 00:38:53,322 - Oh. Sorry. - Box. 774 00:38:53,323 --> 00:38:54,890 Thank you. 775 00:39:02,933 --> 00:39:04,934 Hey, Cam? 776 00:39:04,935 --> 00:39:06,502 Yeah? 777 00:39:06,503 --> 00:39:10,005 It wouldn't be so bad if my girls turned out like you. 778 00:39:10,006 --> 00:39:13,609 I'd be proud of 'em if they did, 779 00:39:13,610 --> 00:39:16,377 you know, as a dad. 780 00:39:18,882 --> 00:39:21,350 Geez, Louise. 781 00:39:21,351 --> 00:39:25,020 Haley's project's pretty cool, right? 782 00:39:25,021 --> 00:39:27,756 It's very cool. 783 00:39:27,757 --> 00:39:31,227 Yeah. 784 00:39:45,709 --> 00:39:49,245 Oh, shit! 785 00:40:07,964 --> 00:40:09,398 Hey! 786 00:40:09,399 --> 00:40:10,798 No! 787 00:40:11,968 --> 00:40:13,936 No! 788 00:40:13,937 --> 00:40:16,638 No! 789 00:40:37,994 --> 00:40:40,930 What's going on? 790 00:40:40,931 --> 00:40:43,599 Can I come in? 791 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,201 Yeah. 792 00:40:49,005 --> 00:40:52,174 Do you want to work on Comet with Joe? 793 00:40:52,175 --> 00:40:53,809 Yeah. 794 00:40:53,810 --> 00:40:57,146 Then there are conditions. 795 00:40:57,147 --> 00:41:00,015 One, you don't let him 796 00:41:00,016 --> 00:41:02,451 or anyone else push you around. 797 00:41:02,452 --> 00:41:05,154 Okay, if you have an idea, you say so. 798 00:41:05,155 --> 00:41:08,624 If you don't like an idea, you say so, okay? 799 00:41:08,625 --> 00:41:12,828 Number two, this is fun, okay? 800 00:41:12,829 --> 00:41:16,031 And the second that it stops being fun, 801 00:41:16,032 --> 00:41:19,568 you say so, and we both walk away. 802 00:41:19,569 --> 00:41:21,337 Okay. 803 00:41:21,338 --> 00:41:22,934 - Promise? - Promise. 804 00:41:22,935 --> 00:41:24,573 Cross your heart, hope to die? 805 00:41:24,574 --> 00:41:26,709 Yeah, all that stuff. 806 00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:28,209 Okay. 807 00:41:29,846 --> 00:41:32,047 Where are you going? 808 00:41:32,048 --> 00:41:34,316 We should get started. 809 00:41:34,317 --> 00:41:36,252 Sweetheart, it's midnight. 810 00:41:36,253 --> 00:41:38,286 Well, we have work to do. 811 00:41:39,689 --> 00:41:41,989 Okay. 812 00:41:44,494 --> 00:41:45,728 All right. 813 00:41:45,729 --> 00:41:47,763 Your idea about categorizing... 814 00:41:47,764 --> 00:41:49,665 Uh-huh. ...it's smart. 815 00:41:49,666 --> 00:41:52,067 So... let's start there. 816 00:41:52,068 --> 00:41:54,335 Okay. 817 00:41:58,217 --> 00:42:00,252 They had the crowd eating out of their hand. 818 00:42:00,253 --> 00:42:01,987 I mean, Diane was there. 819 00:42:01,988 --> 00:42:04,528 They're slick. And Rover? 820 00:42:04,529 --> 00:42:06,796 I had the whole team over last night 821 00:42:06,797 --> 00:42:09,299 so we could open up the lines of communication, 822 00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:10,967 bat stuff around outside the office, 823 00:42:10,968 --> 00:42:12,235 went really well. 824 00:42:12,236 --> 00:42:15,138 Uh, what's the endgame with that site? 825 00:42:15,139 --> 00:42:16,706 In what sense? 826 00:42:16,707 --> 00:42:18,041 The finished product... 827 00:42:18,042 --> 00:42:20,410 I'm just curious how you're seeing that. 828 00:42:20,411 --> 00:42:23,547 It's the first site you visit every time you're online. 829 00:42:23,548 --> 00:42:25,749 It's the page that gets you where you wanna go... 830 00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:28,351 I'm sorry, is there a problem? 831 00:42:28,352 --> 00:42:32,022 No, sorry, I just wanted to flag something for you, 832 00:42:32,023 --> 00:42:33,857 but we can circle back to that later. 833 00:42:33,858 --> 00:42:35,525 I'll swing by your office. 834 00:42:35,526 --> 00:42:38,827 Oh, no. If you have something to share, be my guest. 835 00:42:40,264 --> 00:42:43,033 Benji sent me a link to a site 836 00:42:43,034 --> 00:42:45,235 that feels like it might be operating 837 00:42:45,236 --> 00:42:46,570 in a similar space. 838 00:42:46,571 --> 00:42:49,005 Just wanted to make sure you were aware. 839 00:42:49,006 --> 00:42:51,841 Benji, do me a favor and see who's behind Comet. 840 00:42:51,842 --> 00:42:53,907 Maybe there's a play to be made there. 841 00:42:53,908 --> 00:42:55,308 Sure. 842 00:43:02,383 --> 00:43:03,717 Thank you so much. 843 00:43:03,718 --> 00:43:05,586 Oh, no. I can get that. 844 00:43:05,587 --> 00:43:07,154 Okay. 845 00:43:07,155 --> 00:43:08,589 Uh, I actually had one thing 846 00:43:08,590 --> 00:43:09,856 I wanted to talk to you about real quick. 847 00:43:09,857 --> 00:43:11,091 Oh, good. 848 00:43:11,092 --> 00:43:13,327 Uh, me, too, but you go first. 849 00:43:13,328 --> 00:43:17,030 Someone at work showed me the comet list or Comet? 850 00:43:17,031 --> 00:43:19,399 Yeah. Yeah. What do you think? 851 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,068 - It's good. - Yeah? 852 00:43:21,069 --> 00:43:23,437 It's really good, I just... 853 00:43:23,438 --> 00:43:26,773 we have something, a play that looks like 854 00:43:26,774 --> 00:43:28,742 it could be part of the competitive landscape, 855 00:43:28,743 --> 00:43:31,411 and I wanted to make sure you knew. 856 00:43:31,412 --> 00:43:34,014 Part of the competitive landscape? 857 00:43:34,015 --> 00:43:35,716 It's a search algorithm, 858 00:43:35,717 --> 00:43:38,785 basically indexing the web, making it searchable. 859 00:43:38,786 --> 00:43:41,521 It started as a medical indexing software, 860 00:43:41,522 --> 00:43:43,190 and they shifted into web. 861 00:43:43,191 --> 00:43:46,126 Oh. They shifted. 862 00:43:46,127 --> 00:43:47,628 When? 863 00:43:47,629 --> 00:43:48,962 A little while ago. 864 00:43:48,963 --> 00:43:50,364 Mm. 865 00:43:50,365 --> 00:43:51,932 Look, it's the idea the team came to. 866 00:43:51,933 --> 00:43:53,900 I wanted to tell you as a courtesy. 867 00:43:53,901 --> 00:43:56,036 Well, why didn't you tell me as a courtesy 868 00:43:56,037 --> 00:43:58,605 when I mentioned our indexing project the first time? 869 00:43:58,606 --> 00:44:01,541 Well, you told me that Joe was writing down websites. 870 00:44:01,542 --> 00:44:03,977 You didn't tell me you were building a company out of it. 871 00:44:03,978 --> 00:44:05,379 So you're competing with us? 872 00:44:05,380 --> 00:44:07,047 Well, we don't have to be. 873 00:44:07,048 --> 00:44:09,950 I'm sure I can talk the partners into buying you out. 874 00:44:09,951 --> 00:44:11,385 Buy us? 875 00:44:11,386 --> 00:44:13,487 Why don't we buy you? 876 00:44:13,488 --> 00:44:15,555 Oh, well, Gordon, you can't compete with us. 877 00:44:15,556 --> 00:44:17,824 You're not capitalized the way we are. 878 00:44:17,825 --> 00:44:20,460 You don't have the staying power, believe me. 879 00:44:20,461 --> 00:44:22,462 It's Haley's website. 880 00:44:22,463 --> 00:44:25,399 Uh, wait. What? 881 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,168 Haley's Comet... she made the thing. 882 00:44:28,169 --> 00:44:30,302 We're building it together. 883 00:44:31,773 --> 00:44:34,341 When were you gonna tell me this? 884 00:44:34,342 --> 00:44:37,444 - Right now. - Oh, over second dessert? 885 00:44:37,445 --> 00:44:38,779 Oh, yeah, like you weren't holding out 886 00:44:38,780 --> 00:44:40,514 on the news that you stole our idea. 887 00:44:40,515 --> 00:44:42,316 Oh, please, I didn't steal anything. 888 00:44:42,317 --> 00:44:44,584 You know everyone's getting into this right now. 889 00:44:44,585 --> 00:44:47,187 You can't keep things from me about our daughter. 890 00:44:47,188 --> 00:44:49,323 This just happened. 891 00:44:49,324 --> 00:44:51,291 It just happened. 892 00:44:51,292 --> 00:44:53,193 I'm telling you now. That's what these dinners are for. 893 00:44:53,194 --> 00:44:54,396 You want to have dinner with me every night? 894 00:44:54,397 --> 00:44:56,384 Well, no, not really. I tried that for 15 years, 895 00:44:56,385 --> 00:44:58,053 didn't exactly get all the information then, either. 896 00:44:58,054 --> 00:44:59,721 Oh, God. Yeah, we're really playin' all the hits, aren't we? 897 00:44:59,722 --> 00:45:01,856 This is not the kind of decision you get to make on your own. 898 00:45:01,857 --> 00:45:05,060 Listen to me... Haley built it, okay? 899 00:45:05,061 --> 00:45:07,062 And we're helping her make it into something more, 900 00:45:07,063 --> 00:45:08,563 and she loves it, okay? 901 00:45:08,564 --> 00:45:10,265 You want to crush that, go ahead. 902 00:45:10,266 --> 00:45:11,967 But when you break the news to her, 903 00:45:11,968 --> 00:45:13,635 make sure you to tell her why... that Mommy's knock-off company 904 00:45:13,636 --> 00:45:15,236 couldn't compete with the one that she built. 905 00:45:15,237 --> 00:45:17,872 Gordon, this is a bad idea, I'm telling you. 906 00:45:17,873 --> 00:45:19,908 Rover has the full weight of the firm behind it, 907 00:45:19,909 --> 00:45:21,276 it's got momentum, 908 00:45:21,277 --> 00:45:23,445 and I couldn't stop it now if I tried. 909 00:45:23,446 --> 00:45:25,313 Listen. We're building the site. 910 00:45:25,314 --> 00:45:27,315 You do whatever you think is right. 911 00:46:09,325 --> 00:46:11,760 What are you doing? 912 00:46:11,761 --> 00:46:14,663 I'm unpacking. 913 00:46:25,753 --> 00:46:32,708 Subtitle sync and corrections by awaqeded for www.addic7ed.com.