1 00:00:00,010 --> 00:00:03,870 I've had seven years of my life stolen, and now I want justice. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,070 I want my wife's real killer found, and I want my children back. 3 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:12,350 You hardly know me, but I want that to change, Jack. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,230 He had her blood on his parka when he was arrested, 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,710 so please, for all our sakes, you do your job. 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,750 Prove that he murdered my sister. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,910 What I told the police officer, big sister grabbed the little one 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,550 - by throat and pushed her into the wall. - I don't have that down here. 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,390 If I'd let these be used, a guilty and very dangerous man 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,430 would have walked free, 11 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:36,720 but if you think it was somehow immoral, fine. 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,550 Go to Hillman. Make a formal complaint. 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,550 My best friend was sleeping with my wife. 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,359 You think he may have had something to do with her death? 15 00:00:46,371 --> 00:00:47,480 Yes, because he lied. 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,830 Tara was wrapped in a tarpaulin, which was secured at both ends 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,870 with a butterfly knot. 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,990 It's just like our little family. Unbreakable. 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,030 You won't win this fight, Alice. 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,560 I will see you in hell before you take my children away from me. 21 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,230 Oh, God. I can't. 22 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,560 - Come on, old man. - Mate... 23 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,800 - I'm out of condition. - I'm saying nothing. 24 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,030 Just the last time we did this, 25 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,400 I was actually sick trying to keep up with you. 26 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,360 Napes Needle, we never climbed that, did we? 27 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,430 We still got all the gear in the shed. 28 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,200 All right, when we get back, I'm gonna put a date in the diary. 29 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,350 - Deal? - Deal. - Good. 30 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,080 - Last one to the top buys the beers. - Nope. - Come on. 31 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,800 Where are ya? 32 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,600 Cheers. 33 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,760 Here. 34 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,040 Thanks. I wouldn't normally take it, but... 35 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,910 What? 36 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,000 - No, it's fine. - What? 37 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,040 I got laid off yesterday. 38 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,720 - You're joking. Why? - I don't know, really. 39 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,390 Orders are right down. They're cutting back. 40 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,440 Last in, first out, I guess. 41 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,150 Look, I'm sure it's got nothing to do with you. 42 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,270 Right, OK. 43 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,310 My solicitor rang yesterday. 44 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,950 Apparently, one of the tabloids is still sniffing around. 45 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,600 - Dave, I really don't -- - I need the money, Phil. 46 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,400 I need the money to fight the case. 47 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,670 To buy the kids the basics, to live. 48 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,600 The chances of me getting a job around here, zero... 49 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,390 and you've worked yourself to the bone for me. 50 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,200 - Oh, no, no. - I'm gonna make good. 51 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,200 I'm gonna meet the guy. 52 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,030 - Truth is, David's right. - No. 53 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,280 Yeah. We can't stop Jack going there, he's a teenage boy. 54 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:28,110 The more we try, the more he'll resist us. 55 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,830 I also think we got more important things to worry about. 56 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,580 What more important than keeping our family together? 57 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,960 I think we need to get you a lawyer. 58 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,030 What, do you think I need help, do you? To cover my tracks? 59 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,790 I don't need a lawyer, Rob, cos I have done nothing wrong. 60 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:46,310 So I'm gonna the interview, I'm gonna tell the truth, 61 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,760 and I'm gonna get on with being a parent. 62 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,270 Hi, guys, have you seen DI Hudson around anywhere? 63 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,160 - I think she's in with Hillman. - Thanks. 64 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,720 So, Jack's 16 in a few weeks, Ro. 65 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,710 He's almost taller than Rob. He can look after himself, can't he? 66 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,760 But you can't, Ro... 67 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:20,000 so I really need you to listen to me here, please. 68 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,760 Three juries have failed to find your father not guilty. 69 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,030 36 men and women have listened to the evidence 70 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,190 in three trials, over seven years, 71 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,710 and not one of them, darling, not one of them 72 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,840 have been able to say the words "not guilty". 73 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,510 And as much as I really understand 74 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,240 your confusion right now, I really do. That scares me... 75 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,480 it really does... 76 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,500 and I think it should scare you too, sweetheart. 77 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Mm-hm. 78 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,310 If it were one or two genuine mistakes, 79 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,710 - perhaps, we could find a way around it... - Sir, 80 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,750 but this is way more than that. 81 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,030 In fact, the evidence brought to me by DI Hudson 82 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,150 strongly suggests your initial investigation wasn't just flawed 83 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,030 - but also, perhaps, criminally negligent. - With respect, sir... 84 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,070 You will have the opportunity to answer 85 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,510 the allegations made against you in due course. 86 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,870 Right now, I'm informing you that I am suspending you from duties, 87 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,883 and I have forwarded the details regarding 88 00:07:30,895 --> 00:07:32,870 this allegation to Professional Standards. 89 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,670 The evidence against Collins remains, and I have no doubt... 90 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,950 I expect them to serve you with a Reg 15 notice. 91 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,972 You will then have ten days to respond in 92 00:07:39,984 --> 00:07:42,110 writing to the allegations made against you. 93 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,860 The right to consult a federation representative... 94 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,790 You're to go nowhere near my kids, OK? 95 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,190 Which we wouldn't, anyway. We know what they've been through already... 96 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,430 and actually what Sun readers are mainly interested in is your story, 97 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,000 what you've been through, how you're moving forward. 98 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,630 And how long would this go on for? 99 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,374 We think three Saturdays. We always do a 100 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:09,174 weekend personal interest story, 101 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,830 and we're thinking... prison years, 102 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,990 the retrial and release, and then the future. 103 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,948 True-life crime stories play well now with 104 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,790 all the stuff on TV coming from America. 105 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,080 And for all of this, how much would you pay me? 106 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,840 I've been authorised to offer you £10,000, David. 107 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,440 I was hoping for more than that. 108 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,670 I need more than that. 109 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,715 Maybe if we'd done it immediately after the 110 00:08:36,727 --> 00:08:38,870 trial collapsed, but that's the best I can do. 111 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,070 - Would you go to £15,000? - I'm really sorry. 112 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,120 £13,000, then? 113 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,350 Please. 114 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,750 I've got lawyers fees, and I owe my brother money, 115 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,960 and I need to buy the kids stuff. Please. 116 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,520 I can go to £12,000 if we start right now, here. 117 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,720 See if we can get it in for this weekend. 118 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,550 For £12,000. 119 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,600 OK. 120 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,480 I'm gonna need... a couple of signatures. 121 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,280 She's still scared of him, you know? Mom. 122 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,360 Alice. 123 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,140 You know, I heard her and Rob rowing the other night. 124 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,390 Police were asking questions about where she was the night Mom died. 125 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,630 - No. - They've spoken to her once already, 126 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:43,670 and now she has to go back in again. 127 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,920 - What do they think? - I don't know... 128 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:49,910 but Rob is really freaked out by it. 129 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,950 They don't think she... 130 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,510 No, I don't know, and, Ro, I wasn't gonna say anything, it's just... 131 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:58,110 If she's telling you shit like she's scared of our dad 132 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,160 and trying to come between you and me... 133 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,840 right now... I trust him a lot more than I trust her. 134 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Thanks for this, mate. I shouldn't be more than 10 minutes, OK? 135 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,800 - Did you say anything? - What could I say? 136 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,080 Do you trust me? 137 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,360 Of course. 138 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:36,910 I need to ask, possibly a difficult question for you to answer, 139 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,390 but I wanna qualify it by saying that any investigation 140 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,430 is as much about eliminating possibilities 141 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,480 - as it is about finding them. OK? - Right. 142 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,080 Did you wife ever express any concerns about her sister? 143 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,150 What sort of concerns? 144 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,110 Did she every say anything to suggest that she was scared of her? 145 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,750 Physically scared of her? 146 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,800 - Are you being serious? - Did she? 147 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,640 As much as I would love to say yes... 148 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,870 no. 149 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,670 They had a fiery relationship but they were sisters, 150 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,710 you know, but I never got any sense 151 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,430 that she thought that Alice would actually hurt her. 152 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,166 OK. 153 00:12:23,178 --> 00:12:25,270 Why? Why do you ask? What have you found out? 154 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,710 I can't disclose any more information at this time. 155 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,430 Hey, no, no, no. She has my children. 156 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,470 Yeah. No, I understand that, 157 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,950 but I've told you everything I can at this stage. Thank you very much. 158 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Do you have any kids, Cathy? 159 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,110 - One. - Boy or a girl? 160 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,830 A boy. 161 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,310 Right. And if you found out that he was in any kind of danger, 162 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,630 then you would have to know then, wouldn't you? 163 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:53,920 Wouldn't you? You'd have to know, so... 164 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,720 I think Alice has brought them up very well for seven years... 165 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,560 and I'm sure that they're completely safe. 166 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,520 I'll be in touch. 167 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,270 I've asked Alice Moffatt for a minute-by-minute timeline 168 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,430 of where she was from leaving Tara at 9:55, 169 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,750 to approximately 8:00 the next morning. 170 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,870 And, Graham, can you do a full sweep on her? 171 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,670 See if she had any previous history, cautions, bind-overs, 172 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,710 - parking tickets, anything at all. - Yep. 173 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,670 Are we seriously now suggesting she's a possible suspect? 174 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,350 She was jealous of what her sister had, the career, the kids, 175 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,430 and she owed her nearly £20,000, which she couldn't pay back. 176 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,030 Yes, she's a suspect, as indeed is Tom Wilson. 177 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,190 He's now confessed to being in a troubled relationship with Tara, 178 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,870 and we know that on more than one occasion, they fought. 179 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,710 The question is, did it ever spill over into anything more? 180 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,270 Steve, let's go back over his movements that night, 181 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,430 look through all the original CCTV footage, 182 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,531 and all the original witness statements, please. 183 00:14:05,543 --> 00:14:06,230 Guv. 184 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,070 And then lastly, David Collins. 185 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,310 The most damning evidence against him 186 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,950 has always been his wife's blood on his coat. 187 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,590 His defence convinced the jury that cross contamination 188 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,360 was a possible reason. Was it a likely one...? 189 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,310 Mari-Luz, you speak to the lab again. 190 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,350 OK, that's it. Thanks, guys. 191 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,190 What happened with DCI Beech, guv? 192 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,540 We heard he got served with a Reg 15 yesterday. 193 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,910 Rev 15s are signed off by the Head of PSU, 194 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,990 I don't know anything about that, 195 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,390 but I was asked to give an update on the investigation, 196 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,760 how it's moved on, which I did. 197 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,270 The idiot actually got nailed for destroying government property 198 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,835 cos he shredded everything 199 00:14:55,860 --> 00:14:57,374 when he knew SMU were on to him. 200 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,830 And how compromised were his methods? 201 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,150 How about very fucking compromised? 202 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,030 So what was he actually doing, or not doing? 203 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,990 Everything. Buying cheap materials, 204 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,150 invoicing for government standard and pocketing the difference, 205 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,790 reusing disposable Petri dishes. 206 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,510 His cleaning and log protocols were totally chaotic. 207 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,550 And he really did shred everything. 208 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,990 We have no records I can look at, at all? 209 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,070 Why else do you think Collins got off? 210 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,950 OK. So his coat, run it through testing again. 211 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,950 Have you got any idea how many times that coats been looked at? 212 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,070 I want it done again. 213 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,110 The blood was clearly in a spatter pattern, 214 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,520 - that was never cross contamination. - ASAP. 215 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,350 - Please. - So what else am I looking for? 216 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,910 Everything. Hair, sweat, skin, fibres, foreign debris. 217 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,960 Anything, everything. 218 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,240 I told the original officer all that. Nothing's changed. 219 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,950 So, you got home about 10:15... 220 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,710 you had a cup of tea, and went to bed at about 11:00, 221 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,430 and then you woke up at about 9:00, 222 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,230 just before getting the bus to work, 223 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,630 - arriving slightly late just after 10:00. - Yes. 224 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,950 And we have a record of one last call to Tara's mobile. 225 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,400 - This one at 10:27 from your landline. - Yes. 226 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,710 - Which she didn't answer? - No. 227 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,492 And you didn't leave a message? 228 00:16:19,504 --> 00:16:21,710 I went through all this seven years ago. 229 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,190 And this call suggests that you couldn't have been 230 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,520 - anywhere near Hailsham at that time... - No. 231 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,150 - And Rob was at home when you got back? - Yes. 232 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,360 - And he'll corroborate these timings? - Yes. 233 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,190 Can you tell me then why your car was clocked by a 234 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,390 speed camera doing 57 miles an hour in a 30-mile an hour zone, 235 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,751 halfway between your house and Tara's at 10:26 that night? 236 00:16:43,763 --> 00:16:44,870 What? 237 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,910 We've just learned that your car was photographed speeding 238 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,270 at 10:26 on the B3307. 239 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,440 Well, I don't... I don't know. 240 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,910 Could it have been you driving? 241 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,950 No, I had been drinking... No, I wasn't me. 242 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,358 Did anyone apart from your husband have access to your car? 243 00:17:01,370 --> 00:17:02,160 No. 244 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,360 - Did you report it stolen? - No. 245 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 So it must have been Rob? 246 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:14,710 Well, I don't know. 247 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,390 Except, you said in your original statement, 248 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,920 and just now to us that he was with you all night. 249 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:26,620 Could he have taken the car without you realising? 250 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,280 I suppose it's possible. 251 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,510 And can I ask then, if when you came in you told him about the row? 252 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,560 I don't remember specifically. It was seven years ago... 253 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000 but I... 254 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,030 I imagine I would have done, yes. 255 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,950 And obviously he knew about the money you'd borrowed from her 256 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,350 - and not yet paid back? - Yes. 257 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,670 What time did you say you work again, sorry? 258 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,870 About 9:00. 259 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,960 - And he was in the house, then? - Yes, definitely. 260 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,750 Are you sure, Alice? 261 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,190 You've already given us several different accounts 262 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,240 of your movements that night. 263 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,600 Yeah, he was there. 264 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,720 He was there, I promise. 265 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,120 It's all here. It's all in good nick as well. 266 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,726 Oh, Dave, no, no... 267 00:18:49,738 --> 00:18:52,910 That's a fraction of what I owe you, all right? So please, come on. 268 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,910 It makes me feel better. All right? For me? 269 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,120 - It didn't take long, did it? - What didn't? 270 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,960 Me taking handouts from you. 271 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,830 Normal service, eh? 272 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,030 Where are you off to? 273 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,041 To give my lawyer money, and then to tell 274 00:19:12,053 --> 00:19:13,980 him that Alice Moffatt is now a suspect. 275 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,760 Yeah, should make things interesting. 276 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,400 And no-one wants to charge me of anything... 277 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,680 no-one's accusing me of anything, I'm not being reinterviewed. 278 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,550 I made a terrible mistake having an affair with Tara, 279 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,950 and I'll never stop feeling shitty 280 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,310 about what my selfishness cost my kids, 281 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:39,360 but that was eight years ago, Mel. 282 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,720 And that's not who I am now... 283 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,430 so please come back home and let me prove 284 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,880 I can be a better father to our child. 285 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,480 Please. 286 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,470 Well, according to my notes, you were flagged from a door-to-door 287 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,750 as having possible useful information, but it was never followed up. 288 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,190 Not me, it was my wife they spoke to. 289 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,150 Right... 290 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,070 Well, it looks like we've got Mr Adebayo here. Sorry. 291 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:12,190 Can you remember what information it was she had, sir? 292 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,465 She saw someone that night walking away 293 00:20:14,477 --> 00:20:16,550 from the direction of Collins' house. 294 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,840 We only live 100 yards or so from them. 295 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,270 Right... is your wife around? 296 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,270 She's at work, but I can get her to call you later. 297 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,440 Yeah, that'd be great. Let me give you my direct line. 298 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,515 It's all there. 299 00:20:37,527 --> 00:20:39,710 So, what do you want me to concentrate on? 300 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,070 The house or the kids? 301 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:44,390 The kids, obviously, 302 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,070 cos I defy any court in the world 303 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:48,630 to think that they're safer with them now than with me. 304 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,680 - OK. - Right. 305 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,030 And when we do get the kids, which we will, 306 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,070 I want you to go after the house. 307 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:59,120 I'm practically homeless. Let's see how they fucking like it. 308 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,240 No worries. Yeah, I'll see you then. 309 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,670 He's really sorry, mate, but he's not gonna be back for a while. 310 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,870 - He's had to go into town on short notice. - Why? 311 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,320 Following up on some work possibilities, I think. 312 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,590 - Right. - I mean, you're very welcome to wait. 313 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,000 It's fine. I'll come back tomorrow. 314 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,790 I used to see you, you know... 315 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,870 when you used to watch us in the park. 316 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,480 There was me thinking I had a future in special ops. 317 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,580 I always wanted to come visit after you moved out. 318 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:56,390 It felt unfair that you got caught up in everything... 319 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,160 but Mom... Alice... thought it'd be confusing for us. 320 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,840 Well, I'm sure she didn't make the decision lightly. 321 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,670 Look... 322 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,440 I know that things got really messy after your mom died... 323 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,560 but I think Alice is basically a good person. 324 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,310 Don't you? 325 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:25,110 What ever happened to Auntie Gemma? 326 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,243 When you guys were down from Bolton, 327 00:22:27,255 --> 00:22:29,350 you used to baby-sit us, bring us doughnuts. 328 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,190 We liked Auntie Gem. 329 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,840 Yeah, she went back to live with her folks in Burnley. 330 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,160 - Why? - Oh, you know... 331 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,680 it was hard after the trial. 332 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,440 It was hard for everyone. 333 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,760 - How could you have done that? - Jesus, Will. 334 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,310 How could you actually have gone to Hillman? 335 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:10,990 - You shouldn't be here. - How could you do that to me? 336 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,960 I didn't do anything to you, you did it to yourself. 337 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,285 You ignored key evidence, you failed 338 00:23:17,297 --> 00:23:19,100 to make full disclosure, you lied, Will. 339 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,430 - I loved you so much. - Oh, yeah, yeah, 340 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,110 you loved me so much that you did everything you could 341 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,720 to manipulate me into protecting you... 342 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,230 and I loved you, and Jacob loved you, 343 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,390 and you betrayed us both. 344 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,870 - So that's what this is? Revenge. - No, cos unlike you, 345 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,350 I don't let my personal life interfere with my work. 346 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,110 - Oh, yeah? Listen -- - What the fuck, Will? 347 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,470 You're drunk, go home, and don't come here again. 348 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,200 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just... 349 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,470 I just wanna show you this. I'm guessing you've not found it yet, 350 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,520 it was only introduced pre-sentencing. 351 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,680 The truth, Cath. 352 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,830 My methods may leave a little bit to be desired, but the truth... 353 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,750 I've always had a nose for the truth, and I think you know that... 354 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,080 and deep down, I think you still know it was Collins. 355 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,670 David Collins' girlfriend never pressed charges, 356 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,470 and the caution's long since spent. 357 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,390 - How long were they together? - Two years. Proper relationship. 358 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,550 Jesus. Yeah. 359 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,910 So I want us to try and track her down, get her side of things, 360 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,270 cos if Collins did do it, 361 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,870 that's a history of domestic violence, 362 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,400 and that is not good. 363 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,390 Hang on a minute, am I under arrest? 364 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,150 No, not at the moment. This would be a voluntary interview 365 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,350 relating to questions we have following our interview with you wife, 366 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,950 - but I'm gonna caution you. - What have you said, love? 367 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,710 I haven't said anything, I swear. 368 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,750 You don't have to say anything, but it may harm your defence 369 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,950 if you do not mention when questioned something 370 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,590 which you later rely on in court. 371 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,440 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. OK? 372 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:06,150 I don't wanna do this here. Can we do it at the station, please? 373 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,480 Of course, after you. 374 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,840 Rosie. Rosie. 375 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,510 - Rosie. - What's happening? 376 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,550 Nothing, darling, everything's fine. 377 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,270 Did Dad... Did Rob do something wrong? 378 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,150 - Dad did nothing wrong. - So why are they taking him then? 379 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,070 They just want to ask him a few questions. It's really fine. 380 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,150 Some questions like what? 381 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,150 Rosie, I'm really tired and stressed. Can you just...? 382 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,750 - Did you...? - Did I what? 383 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,720 - Did you do something bad? - Something bad like what? 384 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,030 - Did you hurt my mother? - No, I did not hurt your sainted mother, 385 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,350 but, my God, she hurt me every day of her life! 386 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,030 - Rosie, Rosie, please! - No! - Rosie... - No! 387 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,310 Please. Sorry, sorry. Rosie, please! 388 00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,360 Leave me alone! 389 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,230 Yes, it was me driving that car. 390 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,510 OK. Where were you heading? 391 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,030 I was looking for a late-night chemist. 392 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,960 - There's one in Exminster. - OK. For what? 393 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,510 Alice had been on... anti-depressants for sometime, 394 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,830 since the IVF problems we've had, 395 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,550 and... she'd run out a few days before. 396 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,360 She had a new prescription, but she hadn't picked it up. 397 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,480 And when she got back that night, she was crying... 398 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,910 upset, she was very low, 399 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,790 and I decided to see if I could pick up her medication. 400 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,630 - At 10:30 at night? - Yes. 401 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,470 So what difference would it have made going in the morning? 402 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,270 Anti-depressants can take weeks to get into your system. 403 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,240 Yeah, I know, but I wanted to get out as well. 404 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,950 We'd, er... we'd rowed, 405 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,310 and I wanted sometime to think. 406 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:16,360 Rowed about what? 407 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,270 Tara. 408 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,320 How to deal with her behaviour. 409 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,560 I wanted to cut her off for good, but... 410 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,240 Alice would never contemplate that. 411 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,360 Would it be fair to say that you didn't like Tara? 412 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,240 No, it wouldn't be fair to say that at all. 413 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,630 It would be fair to say that I hated her... 414 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,680 for the pain she caused my wife. 415 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,750 - Did you get the prescription? - No. 416 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,830 No, the chemist closed at 11:00, I got there about five past. 417 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,070 - That would have been why I was speeding. - Right. 418 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,270 I don't have a map in front of me, obviously, 419 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,550 but am I right in thinking that to get from where you were then living 420 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,071 to Exminster, you would have had to pass through Hailsham. 421 00:29:03,083 --> 00:29:03,910 Yes. 422 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,750 And the cameras snapped you in Slinfield. 423 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,990 How many miles is that before Hailsham, 424 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,150 - would you say, about two, three...? - Yeah, about that. 425 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,120 So, Tara's train gets in at 10:35. 426 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,150 A few minutes to get off the platform, 427 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,670 down to the road, let's say 10:40. 428 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,670 Would you say that was about the time you were passing through? 429 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,080 - Yes. - Did you see her? 430 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,560 Sadly not, otherwise, she might still be alive. 431 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,160 - You're absolutely certain? - Absolutely. 432 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,310 - You work at a boat yard, don't you? - Yes. 433 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,350 What do you do there, specifically? 434 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,390 Anything and everything. 435 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,710 - You work with ropes. - Yes, sometimes. 436 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,760 Do you know what a butterfly knot is? 437 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,150 Yeah, of course. 438 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,400 OK. Thank you so much for your time. 439 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,750 - Andy, how's tricks? - 'Yeah, all good. You?' - Yeah, can't complain. 440 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,310 Mate, I'm gonna cut straight to the chase. 441 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,430 You know I'm doing couple of days a week at the Farmbrook Clinic? 442 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,200 - Yeah, yeah. - 'So you never heard this from me, but... 443 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,240 .. I've just seen Melissa in Reception.' 444 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,480 Stop her, Andy. I'm on my way. Just stop her. 445 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,430 Guv, I've just spoken to an old witness that was never followed up. 446 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,206 Yeah. 447 00:30:39,218 --> 00:30:41,430 So she lives on the same road as the Collins, 448 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,230 and on the night of the murder, as she was arriving home, 449 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,150 she saw Tom Wilson walking away from the Collins' house. 450 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,270 Right, yeah, we know this. 451 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,990 No, no, it's not that. It's the timing. 452 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,150 She says it was definitely around 11:30. 453 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,750 - What makes her so sure? - She was working at Anderson's, 454 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,870 the meat-packing place, doing shift work. 455 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,021 She finishes at 11:00. It took her 10 minutes 456 00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:02,870 to get out. It's a 20-minute walk home. 457 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,950 And she's absolutely certain it was him. 458 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,430 He was her obstetrician for both her kids. 459 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,950 - Pull Wilson in again, yeah? - Yeah. 460 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,710 Now I have told you several times now, sir. 461 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,920 Look, I just wanna speak to her. It's my child as well. 462 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,950 She's my wife. I have a right to speak to my own wife, don't I? 463 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,470 Not it she doesn't want to speak to you, no. 464 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,830 Now, please, do yourself a favour and walk away, 465 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,300 or I will call the police. 466 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000 Fine, fine. I'm going. Fine. 467 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,520 - You twat. - Ow! 468 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,430 - Hey. - Hi. - What happened? 469 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,320 Erm, the police, they came and took Dad away... 470 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,310 and Mom started shouting at me, and I... 471 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,360 I just had to get out of there. 472 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,400 Yeah. So, do you wanna go say hello? 473 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,480 It'll be fine. Be fine. 474 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,760 Rosie, this is Dad. 475 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,680 Hello, Rosie. 476 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,320 It's lovely to see you. 477 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,520 You must be nervous, I know I am. 478 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,000 - I'm gonna get us some drinks. - Yeah, that's a good idea... 479 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,400 Here you go. 480 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,520 Should we sit down? 481 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,040 Er... 482 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,840 I'm gonna say a couple of things, Rosie, and then... 483 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,240 and then I'll shut up. 484 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,600 OK. Firstly... 485 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,240 I loved your mom so much. 486 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,560 I would never have hurt a hair on her head... 487 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,760 and I... I was just as devastated as you were when she died... 488 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,440 and secondly, I just... 489 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,320 I just wanted to tell you in case you didn't know that... 490 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,920 that not a single hour went by when... 491 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,280 I didn't think about you and Jack. 492 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,680 I missed you both so much... 493 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,500 and I love you both from the bottom of my heart... 494 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,120 and whatever happens... between us... 495 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,560 I will always, always... love you. 496 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,630 I... I didn't think I'd remember anything about you, 497 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,670 but I do. 498 00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:53,720 What do you remember? 499 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,680 Your smell. Soap and jumpers. 500 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:04,970 Here we go. 501 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,370 This is for you. 502 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,010 This is for you. 503 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,560 Thank you. 504 00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:25,620 OK. Thanks so much for your help. 505 00:35:28,420 --> 00:35:31,010 Right, that was Collins' girlfriend. 506 00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:34,850 When they were students, they were in a boozer, both very drunk, 507 00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:38,410 and she swears blind it was actually her hitting Collins. 508 00:35:38,460 --> 00:35:39,923 So why did he get the caution? 509 00:35:39,935 --> 00:35:42,010 The arresting officer didn't believe her, 510 00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:44,330 - thought she was scared of him. - Right. 511 00:35:44,380 --> 00:35:47,490 And the officer told Collins that if he didn't accept the caution, 512 00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:51,460 - he'd charge him. - OK. Good work. 513 00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:32,460 Baz, have a look at this, will you? 514 00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:40,410 She told me the day before 515 00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:43,180 that she was gonna tell David about us... 516 00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:47,460 and then she was gonna tell my wife... 517 00:36:50,780 --> 00:36:53,740 and that night, he invited me around to play poker... 518 00:36:56,420 --> 00:36:58,500 and he was really weird with me. 519 00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:02,660 Really odd. 520 00:37:04,780 --> 00:37:06,780 And I just... 521 00:37:07,820 --> 00:37:10,980 I thought that he must know... 522 00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:15,820 and that he was, sort of, testing me... 523 00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:21,620 and then later that night... 524 00:37:26,340 --> 00:37:28,340 she was murdered... 525 00:37:30,780 --> 00:37:32,980 and obviously he was a suspect. 526 00:37:38,540 --> 00:37:40,700 Except then... 527 00:37:41,740 --> 00:37:43,740 someone in town said that they... 528 00:37:45,220 --> 00:37:47,220 that the milkman had, erm... 529 00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:50,700 had seen him at 5:30... 530 00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:56,690 and I realised he couldn't have done it. 531 00:37:56,740 --> 00:38:00,090 He couldn't have got her body all the way out to Dedham, and then... 532 00:38:00,140 --> 00:38:03,010 got back again by 5:30 533 00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:07,900 if I had been with him... until 11:30. 534 00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:14,100 - So...? - So... 535 00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:18,660 I changed my timing slightly... 536 00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:22,660 to keep him in custody... 537 00:38:23,980 --> 00:38:27,860 so that he wouldn't say anything to my wife about me and Tara. 538 00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:35,690 Oh! 539 00:38:35,740 --> 00:38:38,410 I never thought it would be that important. 540 00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:40,980 I never thought he'd actually be convicted. 541 00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:45,580 I was just trying to buy a little time. 542 00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:53,100 I'm in there, and then the evidence came out about the blood... 543 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:58,010 and I thought, "OK, maybe he did do it." 544 00:38:58,060 --> 00:39:00,970 And maybe he didn't go all the way to Dedham that night. 545 00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:03,770 Maybe he didn't put her there till a few days later but 546 00:39:03,820 --> 00:39:06,170 He'd been watched 24 hours a day. 547 00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:09,100 You're a smart man, you'd have known that. 548 00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:12,620 I just... 549 00:39:16,460 --> 00:39:18,740 The longer it went on... 550 00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:22,180 the more scared I became. 551 00:39:29,140 --> 00:39:31,340 I couldn't find a way out. 552 00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:36,300 I'm sorry. I am truly sorry. 553 00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:41,930 At that time, 554 00:39:41,980 --> 00:39:44,820 your house was on the other side of the station, wasn't it? 555 00:39:48,140 --> 00:39:50,210 She got off the train at 10:35. 556 00:39:50,260 --> 00:39:52,610 I didn't go past the station for at least an hour. 557 00:39:52,660 --> 00:39:55,890 Well, she was drunk. She might have passed out somewhere. 558 00:39:55,940 --> 00:39:58,410 She might have been sick. She might have met someone. 559 00:39:58,460 --> 00:40:00,450 I swear I did not kill her. 560 00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:02,703 But we do know that she wasn't at her house. 561 00:40:02,715 --> 00:40:03,610 Yes, she wasn't. 562 00:40:03,660 --> 00:40:06,450 And we do know that you would clearly have stopped at nothing 563 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,130 to conceal your affair. 564 00:40:08,180 --> 00:40:10,180 I didn't kill her. 565 00:40:13,580 --> 00:40:15,890 Did you say you thought it was me who killed her? 566 00:40:15,940 --> 00:40:19,090 No, of course I didn't, they just asked me who was driving the car, 567 00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:22,010 and I was just shocked cos I didn't even know you'd gone out. 568 00:40:22,060 --> 00:40:24,930 You were passed out. A fairly regular occurrence at that time. 569 00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:27,210 - Why didn't you tell me in the morning? - I don't know. 570 00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:29,970 - I didn't even need my pills that night. - I thought you did. 571 00:40:30,020 --> 00:40:31,730 So what else did you think I needed? 572 00:40:31,780 --> 00:40:33,890 What else did you think you should do for me? 573 00:40:33,940 --> 00:40:35,730 - What does that mean? - You tell me. 574 00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:38,490 - I'm not the one who attacked her. - I did not attack her! 575 00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:41,108 They told me the things you said in your texts. 576 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,410 I was angry and drunk. 577 00:40:42,460 --> 00:40:44,770 Yeah? Well, they scared me, and you know what, 578 00:40:44,820 --> 00:40:47,450 I don't blame the kids for wanting to go back to their dad. 579 00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:49,810 - He's a safer bet than -- - I can't believe you said that! 580 00:40:49,860 --> 00:40:53,300 You've just more or less accused me of killing your sister! 581 00:40:55,460 --> 00:40:59,090 OK, so, sorry, say again what the flakes contained? 582 00:40:59,140 --> 00:41:04,530 Dibutylphthalate, camphor and ferric ferrocyanide. 583 00:41:04,580 --> 00:41:06,730 How was this not found before? 584 00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:09,180 Just more sophisticated tests available now. 585 00:41:10,340 --> 00:41:13,330 And so, ferrocyanide, I mean, what is that? 586 00:41:13,380 --> 00:41:15,770 - Sounds like some sort of poison to me. - No. 587 00:41:15,820 --> 00:41:18,570 No. No, not a poison, none of them are poisons, 588 00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:21,810 they're just some of the ingredients of a very everyday compound. 589 00:41:21,860 --> 00:41:24,530 What we found in both pockets of the coat 590 00:41:24,580 --> 00:41:27,660 are trace elements of a woman's nail varnish. 591 00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:31,940 One second. 592 00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:35,970 - 'DI Hudson.' - Guv, it's me. 593 00:41:36,020 --> 00:41:38,180 Say all that again to my guvnor. 594 00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:50,010 The time you and Tara fought, 595 00:41:50,060 --> 00:41:52,891 you said it was in an alley by the hospital. 596 00:41:52,903 --> 00:41:53,850 Yeah. 597 00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:57,130 - Was this at night? - Yeah. - Late? 598 00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:58,930 After a shift, about 10:00. 599 00:41:58,980 --> 00:42:01,010 - And this was February 12th? - If you say so. 600 00:42:01,060 --> 00:42:02,650 - So it was cold? - I guess. 601 00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:05,450 - Was it dry, raining, snowing? - For God's sakes, I don't know, 602 00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:08,260 - it's seven-and-a-half years ago. - What was she wearing? 603 00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:12,260 It was... 604 00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:15,330 one of those... 605 00:42:15,380 --> 00:42:18,450 you know, a kind of parka, with a... with a fur-lined hood, 606 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:20,500 she was, kind of, swamped in it, like a... 607 00:42:26,660 --> 00:42:28,660 Great. Thanks. 608 00:42:30,740 --> 00:42:34,420 It was minus three on February the 12th, 2009. 609 00:42:35,740 --> 00:42:39,090 So it's freezing cold, Tara can't find her coat, 610 00:42:39,140 --> 00:42:42,850 or hers isn't warm enough, so she grabs her husband's on the way out. 611 00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:46,450 - I do it all the time. - And that's why her blood was on it. 612 00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:48,787 Not from her murder, but from when Tom 613 00:42:48,799 --> 00:42:50,980 Wilson hit her, three months before. 614 00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:54,060 She was wearing David's coat. 615 00:43:21,620 --> 00:43:24,570 - Hi. - Hi, so sorry to disturb you so late. 616 00:43:24,620 --> 00:43:27,530 - No, it's fine. - I've got some news. 617 00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:30,100 Yeah, shall we go out? 618 00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:36,250 - What news? - We believe we've found evidence 619 00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:38,380 which conclusively exonerates you. 620 00:43:39,860 --> 00:43:42,279 If you'd like to come down to the station tomorrow 621 00:43:42,291 --> 00:43:44,770 I can go through it all with you in detail, but... 622 00:43:44,820 --> 00:43:48,250 we now believe that your wife borrowed your coat 623 00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:51,660 several months before she died, and the blood on it was from then. 624 00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:55,610 From an encounter with Tom Wilson. 625 00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:59,250 We also now know that he was at your house until 11:30, 626 00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:02,740 which obviously supports your original alibi. 627 00:44:04,580 --> 00:44:08,260 OK, OK, OK. That's just... 628 00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:13,140 I'm so sorry, David, I'm so sorry for everything you've been through. 629 00:44:16,980 --> 00:44:19,420 OK, yeah, all right. 630 00:44:26,620 --> 00:44:28,660 - Sorry, I just... - It's OK. 631 00:44:34,860 --> 00:44:37,670 - I think I better go in. - Yeah. Thank you. 632 00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:38,810 *CREDITS*