1 00:00:00,090 --> 00:00:01,090 _ 2 00:00:01,100 --> 00:00:02,470 Joanne Kemper knows my brother. 3 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,970 Logic would suggest that it was in an official capacity. 4 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,559 You want to access a station computer to see if there's a record. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,710 It's the file you were searching for yesterday. 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,990 Your case file was 2014, Sinclair's death was 2024. 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,390 But it means nothing. 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,430 Unless we find another one from 2004. 9 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,310 Mr Kennedy was attending a private party 10 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,030 at the residence of Ryan Oakley and Joanne Kemper! 11 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,510 I don't want you to die or disappear. 12 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,470 I don't know what I'd do. 13 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,230 James' case from 2014 - suicide. 14 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,750 Closed by him. See the victim's name? 15 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:35,790 Ryan Oakley. 16 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,950 She's connected to James, she's connected to Ziegler, 17 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,630 she's connected to two unexplained deaths. 18 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,830 Ten years apart. 19 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,110 I understand your sister-in-law will be interviewing Ms Kemper tomorrow. 20 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,030 Joanne Kemper knows who we are. 21 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,550 They know everything about us. 22 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,950 I'm telling you, they know who I am, who you are. 23 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,953 You're not interviewing her, 24 00:00:52,963 --> 00:00:54,600 she's interviewing you. 25 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:10,430 Ladies and gentlemen, 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,270 welcome to the Cambridge Snooker Exhibition Series, 27 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,390 Cowie versus Sloane, 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,430 the rematch of the 2005 Championship Final. 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,230 Let's give a round of applause to Oliver Cowie 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,840 and Danny Sloane! 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,960 Oliver, you're heads. Danny, you're tails. 32 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,910 Sloane's slip-up means Oliver Cowie 33 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:32,240 is now steps away from victory. 34 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,120 Not this time! 35 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:06,390 - Come on! - Danny Sloane has done it! 36 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,030 - Yeah! - He is the winner of tonight's match. 37 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,750 What a duel! 38 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,670 This victory finally puts an end to a 20-year rivalry." 39 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,880 Come on! There we go! 40 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,590 Yeah? No, I won! 41 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,230 I'm on camera now, right now. 42 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,110 Yeah. All right, I'll call you back. 43 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,430 OK. 44 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,470 Where do you want me? 45 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,680 Yeah? Yeah. 46 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,480 Hello? 47 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:27,000 *CREDITS* 48 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,920 There you are. 49 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,120 Oh, you're back on the cypher? 50 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:49,604 If it wasn't designed to be solved, 51 00:04:49,614 --> 00:04:50,910 then it can't be solved. 52 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,230 I mean, you said so yourself. 53 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,830 But... But what if it was? 54 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:55,870 If we can only just ask him. 55 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,710 I mean, if we only knew that, then at least... 56 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,150 - Who's that? - That is Helena Moss, 57 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,421 as in one of the people that James 58 00:05:05,431 --> 00:05:08,310 interviewed for the death of Ryan Oakley. 59 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,630 The drug overdose. I tracked her down. 60 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,070 She was at uni with Kemper, Oakley and Dominic Kennedy. 61 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,790 In fact, she was at the party where Dominic drowned. 62 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,093 And unlike most of the class of '04, 63 00:05:19,103 --> 00:05:20,870 she remained in Cambridge. 64 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,480 - She owns a florist. - I think you mean she is a florist. 65 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,390 Well, I'm heading down there now. 66 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,310 What? Why?! 67 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,270 Er, to buy some flowers 68 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:34,440 and subtly introduce her two dead friends into conversation. 69 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,910 What? I said subtly. 70 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,390 But you're interviewing Joanne Kemper this afternoon. 71 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,110 Yes, John, giving me seven hours to get the inside scoop 72 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,160 on at least two people she killed from someone who knew them! 73 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,200 Subtly. 74 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,550 I liked the story where James was deliberately leaving 75 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,400 clues for his brother and his wife to follow. 76 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 But that's not the story we're in, is it? 77 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,560 Right, you hold the fort, I'll be back with the flowers. 78 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,400 Hello? 79 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,430 "Unknown number." 80 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,950 Nobody there. 81 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,750 - It'll be a PIP scam. - What? 82 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,430 Where'd Mum go? 83 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,190 Florist's. 84 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,070 Is it someone's birthday? 85 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,600 I would imagine so. 86 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,710 Hang on! Why... Why aren't you at school? 87 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,270 Because my mum is spending the afternoon with a serial killer. 88 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:52,630 I don't think that's going to qualify 89 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,840 as a legitimate excuse for absence. 90 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,070 Uh, oh, um, it's DCI Carter. 91 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,950 There's probably been a murder. 92 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,390 I'll call him back. 93 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,830 No. If... If I've got to go to school, 94 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:08,910 you've got to go to a murder. 95 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,280 H-Hello? 96 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,830 Oh, dear, that... That does sound nasty. 97 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,910 It's just, I-I don't have access to a car at the moment, so... 98 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Florist's. 99 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,320 I would imagine so. 100 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,990 OK, I'm sending an officer. 101 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,110 What? Really? 102 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,160 All right, fine. 103 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,270 Could you get a uniform to pick up John Taylor, bring him over here? 104 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,270 Oh, and would you tell them to drop his nephew off at school as well? 105 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,630 Thank you. 106 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,240 What was that? 107 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,030 Problem, DC Cole? 108 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,710 No, sir. 109 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,960 Nice. 110 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,150 Maybe we should all run round and do a bit of shopping for John. 111 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,654 Full shop or just a few bits? 112 00:08:02,664 --> 00:08:03,590 Oh, full shop. 113 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,280 Whatever he needs. 114 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,920 - Hello! - Oh, morning! 115 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,430 Oh, these are lovely. 116 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,670 Dominos. 117 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:37,310 White anemones, calla lilies, black velvet lisianthus 118 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,910 and the black scabiosa. Or black knight. 119 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,030 Oh, I was rather hoping for a white knight. 120 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,590 They're a myth. 121 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,685 How much are they? 122 00:08:45,695 --> 00:08:46,720 - 110. - What?! 123 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,880 Yes, I'll take those. 124 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,590 - Just become an auntie. - Oh, congratulations! 125 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,039 Well, thank you, but I can't take all the credit. 126 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,240 Sorry! I didn't mean to... Do I know you? 127 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,990 Is it Helena? 128 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,110 He-Helena Moss? 129 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,430 St Thomas's College, like, er, 03/04? 130 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,790 That house on Pulton? 131 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,190 Sorry, I can't quite? 132 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,110 Oh, Hildy! Hildy Johnson! 133 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,750 I was over the road, at Devine House. 134 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,750 The... The Trinity one. 135 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,670 Sasha, Frances, Nathan - all that lot. 136 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:31,753 Oh, right, yeah. 137 00:09:31,763 --> 00:09:33,391 I looked different, I had a sort of a big... 138 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,670 Yeah, it was my goth phase. 139 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:36,514 I had a big... Robert Smith perm, 140 00:09:36,524 --> 00:09:38,070 very heavy dark eyeshadow? 141 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,630 Yeah! Yes, right, of course. 142 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,350 Yes, Hildy! 143 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,454 Yes... 144 00:09:43,464 --> 00:09:44,755 Yeah, oh, small world. 145 00:09:44,765 --> 00:09:46,200 Yeah... Yeah. 146 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,310 Weren't you friends with... God, what's her name? 147 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,715 She's always on the TV. 148 00:09:52,725 --> 00:09:54,120 - Joanne Kemper. - Yeah! 149 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,670 Always said she'd be Prime Minister one day, 150 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:59,470 now they're taking odds on it. 151 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,030 We have friends in common. 152 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,990 Yeah, same, same. I only really knew her through Dominic. 153 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,040 Dominic Kennedy? 154 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,750 Yeah, that was awful. 155 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,710 I know! I know. 156 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,230 Well, I say I know - I mean, I don't know, I wasn't there, 157 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,110 but I heard the rumours. 158 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,310 Well, he... He fell asleep in the hot tub. 159 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,680 Oh, you... You were at the party? 160 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,310 Oh, gosh, sorry. I shouldn't... 161 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,230 No, look, Ryan found him and stopped me from seeing him, thank God. 162 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,910 Oh, Ryan, yeah. What, was that Ryan Oakley? 163 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,710 Oh, we were dating at the time. 164 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,590 Oh, gosh! 165 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,870 I-I-I heard about what happened. 166 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,190 I'm sorry. Were you two still...? 167 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,430 No... 168 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,830 No. 169 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,350 Well, must have been such a shock, never the less. 170 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,040 Yeah. Yeah, it was. 171 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,320 I sometimes think that year at St Thomas's was jinxed. 172 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:56,080 Baby's going to love these. 173 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:08,870 Thanks, mate. 174 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,390 Oh, hello! 175 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,470 Lucy's interviewing Joanne Kemper today, yes? That right? 176 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,470 Er, yes. 177 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,230 You don't know anything about her, how she's connected, 178 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,720 if she's connected, or even why she's connected? 179 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,190 - John! - What? No. 180 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,150 I-I mean, yes, that's right. 181 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,830 Since when did Lucy become a journalist? 182 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,160 It really depends on your definition. 183 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,430 Joanne Kemper's a name on a witness report 184 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,990 to a suicide your brother investigated ten years ago. 185 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,910 That's it? That's all you have? 186 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,430 Yes. Why? Have you got something else? 187 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,320 No, I don't have anything. 188 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,030 What? 189 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,240 Nothing, just... 190 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Sometimes it feels like you're not telling me everything. 191 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,630 Oh, does it? Does it really? 192 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,395 You do realise that's how you make me feel 193 00:12:08,405 --> 00:12:09,750 24/7, don't you? 194 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,110 Do I? Oh, dear, I'm so sorry. 195 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,710 It's a really horrible feeling, isn't it? 196 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,470 Yes, it is. 197 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,560 Yes... 198 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,950 We probably better try and solve that murder, shouldn't we? 199 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,000 Yeah. 200 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,390 Oh, I know it's a crime scene, pal. 201 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,870 I was here when it happened. 202 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,750 If there's any fingerprints to leave, I've already left them. 203 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,910 Perhaps it's best not to leave any more, then? 204 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,830 You what, love? What'd she say? 205 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,750 Listen, the DCI's not even in there, so... 206 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,480 - Well, where is he? - I... 207 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:52,670 Which one? 208 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:55,830 - The detective... looking one. - That doesn't help. 209 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,510 DCI Carter. And you are? 210 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,640 Danny Sloane. As in THE Danny Sloane. 211 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,350 You're a snooker player. 212 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,912 No, I'm a magician, mate. 213 00:13:07,922 --> 00:13:09,910 I'd like to go home now, please. 214 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,511 Is anybody stopping you? 215 00:13:11,521 --> 00:13:13,710 I presume he's given a statement? 216 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,670 - He has! - Well, then by all means. 217 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:19,270 Why are you still here exactly? 218 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,630 Who are you? 219 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,550 I'm a Crime Scene Consultant. 220 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:24,430 That's Ludwig. He's famous. 221 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:25,519 He's not famous. 222 00:13:25,529 --> 00:13:27,270 - Yes, he is. - I AM famous. 223 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,031 Famous for what? 224 00:13:28,041 --> 00:13:29,880 He does puzzles for all the papers. 225 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,080 You're a crime-solving puzzle setter? 226 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,230 Well, your little bud here's got my number, 227 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,800 so if I can be of any help, you know where I am. 228 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,000 Excuse me. 229 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,760 Right, let's... get John up to speed, then, shall we? 230 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:06,390 OK, we've got two ex-pros with a history, 231 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,190 a rematch of their 2005 final streaming on an online channel 232 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,030 for snooker fans. 233 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,890 The only way into that corridor 234 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:15,750 is via the main playing area, 235 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,350 so nobody was meant to be in here during the match. 236 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,430 Now the bit that you're really going to like. 237 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,110 Oliver Cowie lost the match. 238 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,550 He shook hands, left and went back to the dressing room. 239 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,710 He left through a door which remained on camera, 240 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,270 in the background, throughout the entirety 241 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,150 of Danny Sloane's post-match interview, 242 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,310 just as it was during the game itself. 243 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,515 Meaning nobody followed Oliver in here, 244 00:14:36,525 --> 00:14:39,390 not until the ref and Danny did a few minutes later. 245 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,870 He was lying right there, 246 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,950 broken-off part of a cue still in him. 247 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,470 So, he was very violently murdered in a location impossible to access 248 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,360 and exit without being seen? 249 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,710 Why would I like that? 250 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,830 Well, the puzzle aspect of it. 251 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,910 I mean, it's moderately diverting, 252 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:01,190 but I'm really pushed for time today. 253 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,470 Don't you have a motive or anything? 254 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,680 A motive? 255 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,350 Yes, just to hurry it along. 256 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,630 For example, has anything been disturbed, moved or taken? 257 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,230 That... That can sometimes suggest a motive. 258 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,310 Actually, Mr Cowie's wallet apparently is unaccounted for. 259 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,790 His wallet? Did he have a lot of money in it? 260 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,160 How am I meant to know that? 261 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,630 They're trick shots. 262 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,048 Ollie was known for them. 263 00:15:35,058 --> 00:15:37,030 My dad was actually a bit of a fan. 264 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,270 He's going to be gutted. 265 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,870 Can you put this in evidence, please? 266 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,470 - What for? - So that I can read it later. 267 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,560 Looks good. 268 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,640 - Do you want to get that, or...? - It's Steve... 269 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,919 My... My friend Steve. 270 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,830 Well, if it's Steve, you better go talk to him, then, hadn't you? 271 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,880 Yes. 272 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,310 Only been here five minutes and he's already off chatting to Steve. 273 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,910 Did you want to have a chat with Steve? 274 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,070 - It's not about Steve. - Well, it kind of sounds like it is. 275 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,960 It's... 276 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,870 - Hello? - Where are you? 277 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,270 That doesn't sound like one of our doors at home. 278 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,590 Someone killed a snooker player. 279 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,110 Oh, that explains it. 280 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,270 - You won't believe how it went at the florist! - Florist's. 281 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,510 I got her openly talking about everything! 282 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,230 Really? In a non-suspicious way? 283 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,190 Yes, of course, in a non-suspicious way! It was amazing. 284 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,270 I really Derren Brown-ed her. 285 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,830 She even started having false memories of me with massive hair. 286 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,270 Massive how? 287 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,110 Just, I don't... Massive generally. 288 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,830 So I got her talking about Ryan Oakley, 289 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,910 I got her talking about Dominic Kennedy, 290 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,230 and you'd better believe it, 291 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,510 Kemper herself. 292 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,550 No word of a lie, John. I think I was born to do this. 293 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:10,950 What's he doing? 294 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,000 What's who doing? 295 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,390 What are you doing? 296 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,390 Nothing! What are you doing? 297 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,870 Could you open that for me, please? 298 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,830 Absolutely, just need to see your warrant. 299 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,590 I don't have one, or really understand what they are, 300 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,830 - or how they work. - Ah, then no. 301 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,470 Why not? That's silly! 302 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,990 You know I'm here with the police. 303 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,070 It's obvious I just saw you being all suspicious with it. 304 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,030 - You should just open it. - Sure. 305 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,510 Or, and hear me out on this, 306 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,920 I could not open it and just drive off with everything still inside? 307 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,639 - I'm calling DCI Carter. - OK. 308 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,870 - In fact, that's probably him now! - Give him my love. 309 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,310 Hello? 310 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,110 Hello, John. 311 00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:55,120 Lucy can't do that interview. You need to stop it. 312 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,030 Why? 313 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,390 It's the wrong move. 314 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,150 Do you think you're the first to try it? 315 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,880 Kemper's taken out players you don't even know about. 316 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,750 Where are you? 317 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,870 It doesn't matter. 318 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,040 It's all that matters! 319 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,190 Do you know what you've done to them? 320 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,550 Your family? 321 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,070 Course you do. You remember what that feels like as sharply as I do. 322 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,280 Stop the interview. 323 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,670 How do you even know about that? Are you in Cambridge? 324 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,390 Are you in contact with someone here, someone at the station? 325 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,190 You think you're starting to put all this together, but you're not. 326 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,910 Joanne Kemper is responsible for lots of deaths, for some reason. 327 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,710 Chief Constable Ziegler has been covering it up, for some reason, 328 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,030 and you walked out on your wife and child, for no reason. 329 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,080 How's that? 330 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,270 James, just tell me everything, now. 331 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,320 I'll help you. 332 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,670 I always would've done. 333 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,990 Then contact Lucy and stop the interview. 334 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,270 Have you lost her number or something? 335 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,550 Damn it, John! I'm not exaggerating the danger here! 336 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,350 It's very, very real. 337 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:07,750 You have to stop her! 338 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,339 That book, all the codes and cryptograms, 339 00:19:12,349 --> 00:19:14,200 was that for us? 340 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,555 Did you leave a trail for us to follow? 341 00:19:17,565 --> 00:19:18,630 To find you? 342 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,840 To help you? 343 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,440 James, was it ever decipherable? 344 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,920 No. 345 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,520 Then tell her yourself. 346 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,390 What did Lucy want? 347 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,630 What? Oh, nothing. Just... 348 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,040 Didn't know how to set the video. 349 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,950 All right, that's not just a lie, John. 350 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,800 That's a lie from 1993. 351 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:02,590 What? 352 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,470 Did you tell anyone about the interview? 353 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,630 Lucy's interview? 354 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,760 No? Why? 355 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,960 OK, to be continued. 356 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:19,760 Well... 357 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,870 - Boot was empty, sir. - I mean, of course it was. 358 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,550 We were doing 70 and he was still parked up, 359 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,790 inside and changed when we got there. 360 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,230 Exactly how much of a head start did you give him? 361 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,800 He got rid of the evidence... 362 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,923 What evidence? 363 00:20:32,933 --> 00:20:35,671 The guy was stabbed and the weapon's still in him. 364 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,630 Is he under arrest? 365 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,623 For what? 366 00:20:38,633 --> 00:20:40,391 Not letting a civilian search his car? No, he's not. 367 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,990 He is, however, coming in to be interviewed. 368 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,870 Voluntarily. 369 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,110 Do murderers usually do that? 370 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:49,150 Well, we're not sure he's actually a murderer, John. 371 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,866 All he did was not open a car boot. 372 00:20:50,876 --> 00:20:52,230 He was also very rude. 373 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,070 I get the impression that's actually just him, to be honest. 374 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,590 I can see why my dad was an Ollie fan. 375 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,280 That's one of our phones. 376 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,430 Can I go home, please? 377 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,470 What? 378 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,750 I think... I think I left the oven on. 379 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,880 I had a fried breakfast. 380 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,150 We have the video of the match coming through, 381 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,990 plus that whole thing I mentioned about him 382 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,320 voluntarily asking to be interviewed... 383 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,510 Of course, yes. I-I should probably still turn the oven off, though. 384 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,910 Right. 385 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,960 Yeah. 386 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,480 - What? - Safety first. 387 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,990 Sir... 388 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,440 Please. Thank you. 389 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,360 Come on, then. 390 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,070 Oh, the trick shot book. 391 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,790 - Yeah. - Can I open it now? 392 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,710 - Well, you have already, so... - Take that back. 393 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,080 I'm not... 394 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,310 Oh, thanks. 395 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,270 Be about five minutes. 396 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,510 To turn off an oven? 397 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,480 I should probably check everything else, while I'm there. 398 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,320 Lucy?! 399 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,990 - John? - Argh! Don't do that! 400 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,550 What are you doing home? 401 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,470 Thought you were trying to find out who killed a snooker player? 402 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,030 I'm pretty sure it was another snooker player. 403 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,190 Oh, so you're finished? 404 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,350 Well, no, because he wasn't actually there at the time of the murder. 405 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:44,670 Have you had any missed calls? 406 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,110 What? No, from who? 407 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,270 Texts, messages, emails? 408 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,150 Check that place where they put the ones they think don't matter. 409 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,200 Spam? 410 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,390 Right. 411 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,470 No, nothing. Who am I expecting one from? 412 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,560 I don't know. 413 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,710 - You don't know? - No. 414 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,240 OK... 415 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,150 Is there something you're not telling me? 416 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,390 Oh, don't you start. You sound like Russell. 417 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,800 There's loads we're not telling Russell! 418 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,070 You don't actually have to do this. 419 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,270 I'm... I'm worried I've pressured you. 420 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,310 John, you couldn't pressure a mouse. 421 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,590 No, look, you said so yourself - she is playing a game 422 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,800 and one of us needs to be at the board. 423 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,880 You've had no calls at all? 424 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,680 OK, what is going on? 425 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:43,139 I'm just frightened, Lucy, OK? 426 00:23:43,149 --> 00:23:45,160 I'm just frightened. 427 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,270 Keep your phone on. 428 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,310 It'll be fine. 429 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,360 I promise. 430 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,040 John? 431 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,840 It's at 4.00, if you wanted to be around. 432 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,240 - Well, come on, then. - Yep. 433 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,470 I hate reversing. 434 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,150 You're not the one reversing. 435 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,280 - How was your oven? - What? Oh... Really good, thank you. 436 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,510 - Where's DC Cole? - He's parking. 437 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,310 He told me to get out cos I was making him nervous. 438 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,430 All right, well, the Super wants a word with us. 439 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,240 - What about? - No idea. 440 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,190 Seriously, what about? 441 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,000 Seriously, no idea. 442 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,120 Mr Taylor... 443 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,560 Ludwig. 444 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,830 I presume you're aware of the investigation taking place 445 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,630 - in the basement? - No. 446 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,320 - Yes, you are, John. - I am, yes. 447 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,390 We've found a document, hand-written, scanned, 448 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,600 completely in code. 449 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,800 We think you can help. 450 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,550 I suggested that having you at our disposal 451 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,550 and not utilising it might be a missed opportunity. 452 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,510 Absolutely, I can help. 453 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,030 Give it here, I'll have it done in five minutes. 454 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,550 That's restricted information. 455 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,360 We want you tell us how to solve it. 456 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,320 That's half of one line. 457 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,840 I'm going to need more than this. 458 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,560 That's the other half of the line. 459 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,070 Still not enough. 460 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,040 Make it enough. 461 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,520 I'll try. 462 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,360 You know where I am. 463 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,950 Right, what does it say? 464 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,310 I don't know. 465 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,880 - Really? - Really. 466 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,710 You crack it, you come to me first. 467 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,550 Before the security man? 468 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,590 Yes, John. Before the Deputy Chief Constable. 469 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,640 Course, Ma'am. 470 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,470 Mr Sloane, thank you for volunteering to talk to us... 471 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,950 Why didn't you just open the boot when I asked you to? 472 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,910 Didn't care for your tone. 473 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,270 Also, what happened to you? Did you zone out or something? 474 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,000 He was just stood there like this. 475 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,070 A man died last night, Mr Sloane. 476 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,590 Yeah, and I'm here, aren't I? Voluntarily. 477 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,710 Why did you ask to be interviewed? 478 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,830 Help you out. 479 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,910 Give you a little potted history of me and Ollie. 480 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,510 - Save you digging. - We already know your history. 481 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,529 You played in an important snooker final once 482 00:27:35,539 --> 00:27:36,600 and he beat you. 483 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,510 You know he grew up two streets from me, 484 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,030 - went to the same school? - And you were friends? 485 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,790 No, we weren't friends. He was a weirdo. 486 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,430 - Lived in the library. - You're not a fan of reading, then? 487 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,110 I was more of a Meccano kid. 488 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,030 He was into puzzles and that. 489 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,232 Reckon you'd have got on. 490 00:27:52,242 --> 00:27:53,960 Well, we'll never know, will we? 491 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,790 You seem very casual about his death, Mr Sloane. 492 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,750 Why shouldn't I be? Guy ruined my life. 493 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,960 How exactly did Oliver Cowie "ruin your life"? 494 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,790 I started playing at eight, full-sized table. 495 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,070 Make a note of that. And I was good. 496 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,280 I was really good. 497 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,311 Kids from our estate back then? 498 00:28:18,321 --> 00:28:19,950 Not a lot of opportunities. 499 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,790 I might not have been booksmart, but I was smart enough to know 500 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,670 I had an off-ramp if I wanted it. 501 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,360 And I really wanted it. 502 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,670 I used to bunk off school to practise. 503 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,030 Kept getting suspended, just kept going. 504 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,710 Friday night, everyone on the pull, 505 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,020 I'd be down the snooker club, 506 00:28:36,030 --> 00:28:37,510 racking 'em up, putting 'em away. 507 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,670 Eyes on the prize. No distractions. 508 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,880 Get out of here! Get to the top! Beat 'em all! 509 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,880 Two guesses who I had to share it all with. 510 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,150 Library boy left his books at home, came into my territory, 511 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,960 showing off, messing about, doing his little trick shots. 512 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,750 He hadn't dedicated one drop of sweat to getting there. 513 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,070 Didn't take the game seriously. 514 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,560 Didn't believe in skill, said it was all physics. 515 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,510 I couldn't wait to wipe that stupid gormless smile off his face. 516 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,350 And then he beat you, in the 2005 final. 517 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,950 Luck, mate, luck! You know, you remind me of him. 518 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,760 That was your only major final. 519 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,812 12 semis, Detective. 12. 520 00:29:21,822 --> 00:29:23,750 That's a record, by the way. 521 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,790 Get that down in your little book. 522 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,470 So it was your only chance at a title 523 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,750 for the entirety of your career? 524 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,910 And by your own odd admission, 525 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,870 you claim he ruined your life as a result? 526 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,350 What's odd about that? 527 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,470 What's odd about it, Mr Sloane, 528 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,691 is that you are a suspect in a murder case 529 00:29:41,701 --> 00:29:45,153 and voluntarily giving us an incredibly strong motive 530 00:29:45,163 --> 00:29:46,550 for carrying it out. 531 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,990 Sure. One you'd have worked out anyway. 532 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,310 Just saving you some time. 533 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,350 A confession would save more. 534 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,990 Well, I'd love to, but I was on camera at the time of the murder. 535 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,830 That's OK, you can still confess. 536 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,110 Yeah, I'd probably have to work out how I did it first, 537 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,750 and honestly, it seems completely impossible to me. 538 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,670 You got any theories, or...? 539 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,430 No? Not the nicest of areas round there, is it? 540 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,350 I think it's where most of the druggies wash up. 541 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,990 Maybe one of them had got in earlier? 542 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,230 And how would they have got out again? 543 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,710 Beats me. Crafty bunch. Always on the rob. 544 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,550 Have we checked to see if anything was nicked? 545 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,470 Oliver Cowie's wallet is missing. 546 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,800 Really? Was he meant to tell me that? 547 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,670 He knows full well a wallet's missing! 548 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,710 No, I don't. Didn't know he had a wallet. 549 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,870 - Who doesn't have a wallet? - Him, now, apparently. 550 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,790 Certainly sounds like a bungled burglary, doesn't it? 551 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,670 You'd be amazed how often they do. 552 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,800 Yeah, OK. 553 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,920 Anything else, boys? 554 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,910 - Mrs Betts, hi. - Hi... 555 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,110 She's running about 20 minutes late. 556 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,070 It's a Zoom meeting, so she won't be long. 557 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,360 Do you want to take a seat? 558 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,910 Aren't they lovely? 559 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,960 Joanne got me them. 560 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,270 Dominos, I think they're called. 561 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,950 - When? - Today. 562 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,870 Oh, she does things like that. 563 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,080 It's just the side of her the public never sees. 564 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,950 Look at him. He's playing like his life depends on it. 565 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,550 A signature move from Sloane. 566 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,070 I mean, there's no two ways about it. 567 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,630 He's just there, the whole time. 568 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,190 - But he definitely did it. - Nice shot! 569 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,670 Didn't he? 570 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,030 Not with a watertight alibi. 571 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,750 Look, I've met Danny Sloanes before, John. 572 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,190 People who enjoy being investigated, especially 573 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,310 - if they know they didn't do it. - Or believe we can't prove it. 574 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,270 It's a good shot, though. You've gotta give him it. 575 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,280 Was it? Looks fairly straightforward to me. 576 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,720 - You can play snooker? - I assume so. 577 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,520 OK... 578 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,280 Here you go. 579 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,400 OK, then. 580 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,800 I stand corrected. 581 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,400 Snooker's much more complicated than I thought. 582 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,350 I've got to answer this. 583 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,440 John! 584 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,800 Must be Steve. 585 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,440 I wonder what he's like? Steve. 586 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,280 Fair. 587 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,870 What's wrong? What's happened? Where are you? 588 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,635 I'm in Joanne Kemper's toilet, 589 00:33:24,645 --> 00:33:26,840 a few feet away from Joanne Kemper's PA. 590 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,350 Where are you? Are you nearby? 591 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,430 Because I really think that that florist has snitched on me. 592 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,390 How could she? You didn't use your real name, did you? 593 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,510 No, of course I didn't use my real name! 594 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,560 I mean, there's no way that she could... 595 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,630 Anyway, it doesn't matter how she did it, she did it, 596 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:59,640 because there is a big bouquet of Dominos out there on the table. 597 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,070 - A bouquet of...? - Black and white flowers, John, 598 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,510 like the ones I bought. 599 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,350 They are hardly commonplace or cheap, and yet here they are. 600 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,750 Left there for you to see. 601 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,240 It really is a game. 602 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,630 An actual game. Not metaphorical, a literal, turn-based one. 603 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,550 Our turn, her turn, our turn, her turn. 604 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,400 Is this what everyone does?! 605 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,043 What? 606 00:34:27,053 --> 00:34:29,391 All people seem to have done today is play games! 607 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,790 Not fun ones either, not nice ones. 608 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,270 No, smug ones. 609 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,830 The "You-don't-know-what-I-know" type ones. 610 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,710 Just like her. 611 00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:39,120 Just like Kemper. 612 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,853 Gosh, I've really messed this up, haven't I? 613 00:34:44,863 --> 00:34:46,520 I've ruined everything. 614 00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:55,790 Well, your silence speaks volumes. 615 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,710 What? Sorry, I wasn't listening. 616 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,310 Lucy... 617 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:08,030 I think the murderer is playing snooker, with me. 618 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,190 You thought this was a good time to tell me that? 619 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,279 I am sat in Joanna Kemper's toilet! 620 00:35:12,289 --> 00:35:13,510 Where even are you? 621 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,750 You said that you would be here! 622 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,240 I will be. 623 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,590 Look, OK, don't bother. 624 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,150 Right, I'm just going to make very loud puking sounds 625 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,680 and then just go home. 626 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,040 No, you're not. 627 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:40,480 You're going to walk out there, sit opposite her... and act cool. 628 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,830 OK, I can do that. 629 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,190 Good. 630 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,630 Because it's our turn. 631 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,160 And I think I have a move you can use. 632 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,590 John! John! 633 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,030 Oh, there you are. 634 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,270 Look at this, Oliver's rules for a trick shot. 635 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,830 Set up the table, present the impossible, defy expectation. 636 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,190 Yeah, so? 637 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,550 So this thing here is a snooker player's brain. 638 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,080 This is how they think - all of them. 639 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,910 Danny was putting something in the boot of his car, 640 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,830 or actually I think he was looking under his car for something. 641 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,680 Don't think he found it. 642 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,230 Look do you mind filling me in on this, if not anything else? 643 00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:39,070 Still filling it in myself. 644 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,350 Oliver was stabbed in the back. 645 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,990 Where, exactly? 646 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,160 Literally here, John. 647 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,710 What you doing? 648 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:52,280 What's this, look? 649 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,040 Oh, it's a broken pipe. Nice find. 650 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,920 - Don't make it worse, John! - Stabbed in the back... 651 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,590 There you go! Must be that table. 652 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,350 - Go and have a look at those... - Cue cases. 653 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,640 - Careful, please. - Cue cases. 654 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,750 SOCO must have missed this. 655 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,640 What, missed what? 656 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,270 It's a bit of string. I reckon they just ignored it, John. 657 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,630 That was silly of them. It's hard evidence. 658 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,950 All right, get someone to bring him up here, I'll do the whole 659 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,630 this-is-how-he-did-it stuff up there in the main hall. 660 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,680 Then I'll really have to run. Is that OK? 661 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,750 Yeah. 662 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,800 OK. 663 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,790 Miss Betts... 664 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,190 - Nice to meet you. - Hi. 665 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,160 Please, sit. Shall we get started? 666 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:39,150 There we go. Recording. 667 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,950 Better not say anything incriminating, then! 668 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,190 Yes... 669 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,750 Just, just out of interest, why did you agree to do this interview? 670 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,110 Oh, Hannah, my PA, she said I should do it. 671 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,350 Said you were very nice. 672 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,750 And self-interest, of course. 673 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,270 It is the largest reaching paper in Cambridge. 674 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,320 Is it? 675 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,110 Really? 676 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,160 Yes... 677 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,670 Wow! Yes, so... Cambridge girl born and bred? 678 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,630 I certainly am, yes. 679 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,510 I mean, my father held his seat here for almost his entire life, 680 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,310 so I hope I'm sufficiently honouring it. 681 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,750 Into politics as a kid, then? 682 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,971 Oh, God, of course not! 683 00:39:21,981 --> 00:39:23,510 No, I was into Beanie Babies! 684 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,190 Me too. 685 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,990 No, it was University, really. 686 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,640 I started getting into all the student union stuff. 687 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,430 Would you be interested in hearing 688 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,760 about my time at University, Miss Betts? 689 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,950 Well, I... 690 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,750 Do you think your readers might? 691 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,280 They may well, yes. 692 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,110 Oh, John? 693 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,360 What? Oh, there you are. 694 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,562 Good. 695 00:40:07,572 --> 00:40:09,320 What did you forget to ask me? For a selfie? 696 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,430 I'll just get straight into it if... If you don't mind. 697 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,590 I can see why you thought Mr Cowie and I were alike. 698 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,510 He does indeed seem to be "into puzzles" like me, doesn't he? 699 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,710 These aren't puzzles, though. They're tricks. 700 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:29,270 You don't solve a trick. 701 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,830 What? So? 702 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,190 So I have a puzzle brain. 703 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,510 Oliver Cowie had a snooker brain. 704 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,950 Can you guess which of us was actually more like him? 705 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,910 I am nothing like Oliver Cowie. 706 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,350 Not in personality type, no. 707 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,510 I've been led to believe that he wasn't a joyless, embittered, 708 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,150 murderous sore loser, for a start. 709 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,590 You can't talk to me like that cos you're police! 710 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,590 Actually, I'm a Crime Scene Consultant. 711 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,670 I can do anything I want. 712 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,310 - Is that true? - That does appear to be the case, yeah. 713 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,680 Checks out, yeah. 714 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,790 So in what way am I like him, then? 715 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,510 Well, you think like him, don't you? 716 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,350 Almost 20 years on and it still doesn't come 717 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,550 as infuriatingly naturally to you. 718 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,670 You have to actually work for it. 719 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,150 But, ultimately, you think the same. 720 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,320 All snookery. 721 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,321 Which is why you ended up murdering him 722 00:41:24,331 --> 00:41:26,040 with a figurative trick shot. 723 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,230 Do I have to take you through how you did that or...? 724 00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:32,280 Yes. 725 00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:35,430 OK, then. 726 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,600 Like all trick shots, the first part is the set-up. 727 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,670 Well, you did say that you'd got fingerprints everywhere. 728 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,550 Smart move, by the way. 729 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,710 More killers should say that. 730 00:41:57,720 --> 00:41:59,070 I'd rather they didn't. 731 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,710 Then you took the shot. 732 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:02,630 Set the plan in motion. 733 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,350 Oliver Cowie's fate was all but sealed. 734 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,990 There was just one thing left to guarantee it. 735 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,030 You actually had to win the match. 736 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,710 That was essential. 737 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:16,350 Your whole plan completely relied on Oliver Cowie losing 738 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,190 and therefore leaving the arena first. 739 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,670 DC Cole commented earlier on how it looked like you were 740 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,670 playing for your very life. 741 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,270 He was half-right - you were playing for Oliver's. 742 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,390 If you lost, you'd have no alibi. 743 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,670 You really did base the success of your plan 744 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,030 entirely on the belief that you'd been the better player all along. 745 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,790 That's not a belief. That's a fact. 746 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,550 And I was live on camera during the murder. 747 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,750 Yes, we saw. 748 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,550 You received a quick phone call just before the interview, didn't you? 749 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,790 Who was it? 750 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,470 My current missus. 751 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,960 We'll find an incoming call from her on your phone, then, will we? 752 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,830 Because if we do... 753 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,040 I've got absolutely nothing and you really will win. 754 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,480 Then might I suggest you didn't receive a phone call at all? 755 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,919 You made one. 756 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,510 A cue-case gun? 757 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,190 Really? 758 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,270 They sell a lot of them online somewhere, do they? 759 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,310 I don't this it was sophisticated enough to be marketed. 760 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,590 Probably something you cobbled together yourself. 761 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,110 You WERE a Meccano kid. 762 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,190 Whatever it was, I'm sure it's long gone now. 763 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,870 Well, that is the last stage of the trick shot, isn't it? 764 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,790 Sinking all the other balls you've set up 765 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,880 while everyone's watching the black. 766 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,880 You faked shock at your rival's demise... 767 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,120 but inside, you were celebrating the success of your plan. 768 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,470 The only thing left to do was to collect back all the cogs 769 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,920 of your murderous mechanism. 770 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,910 And when the opportunity presented itself, 771 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,510 you thought you could improvise another deceit - 772 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,910 a shot to sink the final ball. 773 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,360 Unfortunately for you, though, it went down the wrong hole. 774 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,670 I think this is what you were looking for. 775 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,230 Do you think we'll find your fingerprints on that wallet 776 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:38,790 that you've claimed on camera you didn't even know existed? 777 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,350 You know, it was a bad choice of fake stolen misdirect. 778 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,520 All that effort you put in and there wasn't even any money in it. 779 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,390 Actually, there was 20 quid in it. 780 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,910 And you took it?! 781 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,080 You're barely even human, aren't you?! 782 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,550 Right! I'd call that a confession. 783 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,790 Game, set and match. 784 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,990 That's tennis, John. 785 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,480 Now, who's up for giving me a lift? 786 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,190 Oh, I'm more than aware of how easy I had it, believe me. 787 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,830 Not many student digs were spare penthouses their father owned. 788 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,270 Oh, it gets levelled to me as a criticism today, 789 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,190 instead of what it actually was - 790 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,750 a... drive to, er, recognise my own privilege 791 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,680 and to try to make a difference with it. 792 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,190 It sounds like you were quite ahead of your time. 793 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,920 Well, Dad taught me a lot. 794 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,800 There he is. 795 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,270 Miss him every day. 796 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,320 Who's the other chap? 797 00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:44,080 Chief Constable Ziegler. 798 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,230 He was in charge of the whole of Cambridge. 799 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,070 "Was"? 800 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,120 Is. 801 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,760 Slip of the tongue. 802 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,030 So you stayed in the party pad until graduation? 803 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,070 Er, no. As a matter of fact, I... 804 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,230 I did move into student halls in my final year. 805 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:09,350 There was an accident at the apartment, 806 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,430 a terrible tragedy, and I couldn't stay there after that. 807 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,280 I'm so sorry... 808 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,350 Was that...? 809 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,710 A friend. 810 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,320 A close personal friend. 811 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,120 Too much drink and passed out in the hot tub. 812 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,480 The whole thing was just... awful. 813 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,230 You must have been devastated. 814 00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:43,000 You know what I think, Ms Betts? 815 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,800 I think that drove me too. 816 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,550 Privilege followed by tragedy. 817 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,200 I think that was my wake-up call. 818 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,990 You should quote that. 819 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,430 I will, I will. 820 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,600 Yes, I will. 821 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,670 We said we'd compare notes. 822 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,790 I don't have any more yet. 823 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,990 Is this why you offered to drive me? 824 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,960 No, interrogating you is just a happy by-product. 825 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,190 Well, apparently, I'm dropping you off outside Kemper's house. 826 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,270 Just down from it, please. 827 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,950 So presumably Lucy's there, 828 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,310 and presumably this is a fact-finding mission, 829 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,310 so will you please tell me what facts it is 830 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,680 you're expecting to find? 831 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,270 Well, perhaps just... how many people she's had killed. 832 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,870 Joanne Kemper? 833 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,870 MP for Cambridge St Michael's?! 834 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,910 Yes. I think she's killed people. 835 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,830 I don't know why she's killed people, but I think she has. 836 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,760 And I think that Chief Constable Ziegler helped her cover it all up. 837 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,400 Watch the road! 838 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,640 You really didn't know any of this? 839 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,110 You definitely knew a bit of it. 840 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,630 Look, what I know is that Ziegler's basically vanished 841 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,270 off the face of the earth and everyone's just... 842 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,790 pretending like he's on holiday. 843 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,150 He is very deeply involved in this. 844 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,320 Is he, John? 845 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,350 Then why is he missing? 846 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,190 You think he's a goodie? 847 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,093 I think the world is a lot more nuanced 848 00:49:17,103 --> 00:49:18,910 than goodies or baddies. 849 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,160 You're wrong. It's not. 850 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,240 Well, I think he's a goodie. 851 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,150 I know the man. 852 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,760 He was basically my father-in-law, for God's sake. 853 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,240 He's also the only part of Mandy I have left. 854 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,350 You want to know my motivation? 855 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,350 That's it. You want to find your brother, I want to find Ziegler. 856 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,030 So whoever we think are goodies or baddies, 857 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,360 can we please, please just work together? 858 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,990 You... You never told anybody about the interview? 859 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,040 No. 860 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,240 All right, just checking. 861 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,270 Yes, then. 862 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,520 From now on, we work together. 863 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,790 You said that last time. 864 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,280 I mean it this time. 865 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,910 Oh, I don't know... 866 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,910 Citizen Kane... 867 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,360 Life of Pi... 868 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,760 Mamma Mia! 2. 869 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,160 Mamma Mia! 2. 870 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,720 Your husband's a detective, isn't he? 871 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,590 Ooh, you research your interviewers? 872 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,910 Very smart. 873 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,710 I met him once. 874 00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:41,230 DCI John Taylor. 875 00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:43,350 - James. - James, of course. 876 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,400 Nice man. 877 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,710 Are you not going to ask me...? 878 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:54,390 How did you meet him? 879 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,350 Well, tragically, another death of another close friend. 880 00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,750 Drug overdose. 881 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,270 I hadn't seen him for years, though. 882 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,150 You really have had your fair share of tragedy. 883 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:08,430 Ten years apart. 884 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,230 Almost to the day. 885 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,040 It's like it's cyclical or something. 886 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,750 How is he, your husband? 887 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,880 DCI James Taylor? 888 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,630 He's away at the moment, on a case. 889 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,280 Oh, really? Where? 890 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,600 Knight's Path. 891 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,030 That's our move. 892 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,150 Drop it into the conversation... subtly. 893 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,880 "Knight's Path"...subtly. 894 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,350 Sorry, what does that mean? 895 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,230 I don't know, but it's important and she won't be expecting us 896 00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:45,910 to know it. 897 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,270 - What did you say? - I said, "Not far." 898 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,440 They really are beautiful flowers that you bought for your secretary. 899 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,270 PA. I thought so. 900 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,310 Dominos, aren't they? Like the game. 901 00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,440 Do you play? 902 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,430 Sometimes I like to set them up and watch them all fall. 903 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,160 Very good. 904 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,160 I might quote that as well. 905 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,310 Right, back to it. 906 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,040 What are your top three favourite herbaceous plants? 907 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,550 Told you I'd be here. 908 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,110 You did, yes. 909 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,310 Thank you. 910 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,670 You really shouldn't have left the car unlocked, though. 911 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,310 Don't be silly. What are they going to do? Put a bomb in it? 912 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,110 I... I think they usually put them under them. 913 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,640 Well, then locking the doors wouldn't have done much good, would it? 914 00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:59,200 There you go - it's fine. 915 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,150 What? 916 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,680 I mean, we COULD'VE checked. 917 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,720 Looking! 918 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,590 Looking! 919 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,160 Brake! Brake! Brake! 920 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,870 Well, you called it correctly - 921 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,950 half-trying to find out what I knew... 922 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,590 Hello, Henry! and half-trying to scare me off. 923 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,750 Then I dropped "Knight's Path." 924 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,630 - What's that? - We don't know. 925 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,630 It's a two-word phrase from a small portion of a document 926 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,470 that I'm pretty sure was encoded by James. 927 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,630 It's... 928 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,070 It's a... street in the city. 929 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,270 You didn't look it up? 930 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,350 No. Why would I look it up? I... 931 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,350 I didn't know it was a physical thing. 932 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,400 I'm on it. 933 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,270 Well, did the job. 934 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,910 Scared her off, albeit briefly. 935 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:01,190 We had to scare her. 936 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,790 We had to force her into making a different move 937 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,230 from the one she was planning. 938 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:07,190 Then it's our turn again, right? 939 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,239 Right. 940 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,200 _ 941 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,640 Who is it? 942 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,830 James called me today. 943 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,910 Tried to stop the interview. 944 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,790 Told me you were in immediate danger. 945 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,190 What? 946 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,190 Lucy's fine, as she was always going to be, 947 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,950 and if you'd believed for one second 948 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,350 that there was any real threat there, then you'd never have 949 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,190 - trusted me to prevent it. - Give me the phone. 950 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,590 Can I tell you something, James? 951 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,230 I've spent my whole life hiding indoors, 952 00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:37,270 playing games for a living, 953 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,190 and all because I thought I was the weird one who didn't fit in 954 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,870 in the real world, then I finally step outside and what do I find? 955 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,682 Everyone's playing them... 956 00:54:45,692 --> 00:54:48,230 murderers, detectives, my own brother! 957 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,310 And for what? 958 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,430 Because I'm beginning to think it is a choice... 959 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,870 Can I please...? 960 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,040 James? 961 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,550 45 and have a long-term health condition, 962 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,160 you could qualify for PIP coverage. 963 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,800 Point still stands. 964 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:10,840 What did he say? 965 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,880 Nothing, ultimately. 966 00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:20,760 Nothing? 967 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,030 Lucy... 968 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,710 Oh, you're not going to believe this. 969 00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:27,550 Oh, just give us a minute, will you, Henry? 970 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,110 No, I think you're really going to want to see this. 971 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,960 "Knight's Path" search results. 972 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,600 - Mandy Ziegler. - The Chief's daughter. 973 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,320 DCI Carter's fiancee. 974 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,900 _ 975 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,560 I take it you got my message, then? 976 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,360 I think it's time we met in person. 977 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:19,000 *CREDITS*