1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:01,844 We need an answer on this little prison visit of his. 2 00:00:01,854 --> 00:00:04,174 He visited Adam Newsum in prison, Holly's killer. 3 00:00:04,185 --> 00:00:05,590 He's not supposed to go 4 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,030 - anywhere near that case. - I know that. 5 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,470 You're going to have to drop his name in subtly 6 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:09,750 and see how he reacts. 7 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,350 I'll tell you what I heard today about Ziegler. 8 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,870 Chief Constable Ziegler is on official leave as of this morning. 9 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,750 I'm assuming this isn't normal. 10 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,510 Ziegler took you to her house. 11 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,630 She thought you were James, still might for all we know. 12 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,630 Next day, Ziegler's gone. 13 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,510 I will interview Joanne Kemper. 14 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,670 Please don't interview Joanne Kemper. 15 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,200 What did you say your name was again? 16 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,470 Your brother, Ziegler, Holly Pinder, Adam Newsum. 17 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:35,590 So what's Ziegler's connection to it all? 18 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,400 Seemed fairly random to me. 19 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,350 - Who's that? - Deputy Chief Constable Radley. 20 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,510 That man there is running the Holly Pinder task force. 21 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,583 Who is he? 22 00:00:46,593 --> 00:00:49,790 Ziegler's replacement and Kemper's personal security liaison. 23 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,870 Every thread leads to this woman. 24 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,470 She IS the mystery. 25 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:55,430 Who actually is she? 26 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,840 That's precisely what we need to find out. 27 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,680 Oh, come on, where are you? 28 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:02,800 *CREDITS* 29 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,710 ? Diddle, diddle, dumpling, my son John 30 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,510 ? Went to bed with his trousers on 31 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,710 ? One shoe off and the other shoe on... ? 32 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,910 What are you doing? 33 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:21,008 Why are you... singing? 34 00:03:21,018 --> 00:03:22,230 ? Diddle, diddle, dumpling, my son John! 35 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,310 Wake up, Sleeping Beauty. 36 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,310 I was in the middle of a dream. 37 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,470 - Gosh, do you dream? - What's that supposed to mean? 38 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,990 - Of course I dream. - Are they really weird? 39 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,590 - No. - Are they really boring? 40 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,270 I don't wish to discuss my id with you, thank you. 41 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,430 - Why am I awake? - I got my interview with Kemper. 42 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,830 Well, I think it came through last night. 43 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,310 It was in my spam, so I need those questions. 44 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,950 - Questions? - The, um, embeddy, suggestivey, thingummy 45 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,510 questions that we talked about yesterday. 46 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,390 Embedded suggestion - questions or statements 47 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,350 with a hidden subtext designed to elicit a subconscious response. 48 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,830 Cryptic crossword clues, basically, repurposed obviously. 49 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,960 We don't want her to know she's doing one. 50 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,790 We only get one chance at this. 51 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,630 The questions need to be perfect. 52 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,158 It's at four o'clock today. 53 00:04:11,168 --> 00:04:12,630 - It's what? - Yeah. 54 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,390 So you better get that coffee down you. 55 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,950 Lucy, let me explain something to you... again. 56 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,629 All we have are the admittedly undisputed links 57 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:23,390 between every single aspect related 58 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,510 to James's disappearance and Joanne Kemper. 59 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,790 - Oh, is that all? - Yes, that is all. 60 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,098 One murdered blogger, one prison suicide, 61 00:04:32,108 --> 00:04:33,990 two missing detectives, 62 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,510 one missing Chief Constable, 63 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,270 Joanne Kemper right in the centre of the web, 64 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:42,470 and still absolutely no idea what any of it is actually about. 65 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,590 What's going on? 66 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,510 We're all having a big bedroom meeting again, apparently. 67 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,630 Lucy, I can't effectively construct those questions without more data, 68 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,350 and I certainly can't do it in eight-and-a-half hours. 69 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,391 The interview's today? 70 00:04:55,401 --> 00:04:56,870 What data? What are you on about? 71 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,630 If you want data, let's just get data. 72 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,790 Joanne Kemper knows my brother. 73 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,213 She's met him. 74 00:05:02,223 --> 00:05:06,470 We don't know where, why, or how, but logic would suggest 75 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,590 that it was in an official capacity. 76 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,030 You want to access the station computer to see if there's a record? 77 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,390 I do, yes. And that's going to be hard, 78 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,480 because I don't have an actual computer any more. 79 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,360 I'll find a way. 80 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,070 What? 81 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,160 Nothing. 82 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,710 It's four o'clock on Monday, Mum. 83 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,710 The Kemper interview's Monday. 84 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:32,960 Today's Saturday. 85 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,150 Oh! Oh, right. Oh, goodness, right. 86 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,070 - Panic over. - The panic is most certainly not over. 87 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,150 Course it is. 88 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,110 You can just go in today and access a police computer. 89 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,390 What are you talking about? 90 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,558 - I can't go in today. - Why not? 91 00:05:48,568 --> 00:05:50,870 There hasn't been a murder. 92 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,950 You don't need a murder to pop in and say hi. 93 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,110 Just pop in and say hi. 94 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,360 Anyway, you're up now. So... 95 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,630 ? Diddle, diddle, dumpling, my son John... ? 96 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,160 Are you sure she can do this? 97 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,400 My confidence fluctuates. 98 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,480 There you go. Door-to-door service. 99 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,150 - I've changed my mind. - Oh, don't be ridiculous. 100 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,070 This isn't impersonating a detective. 101 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,960 I think I've proved I can impersonate a detective. 102 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,790 - I solved seven murders. - Fine. Well, you did that. 103 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,790 - And now you can do this. - This is different. 104 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,280 - This is a pop-in. - Well, pop-ins are easy. 105 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,630 You just pop in. 106 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:46,950 Look, it's not that weird. 107 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,910 You are friends with these people. 108 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,790 Well, you are... in your own way. 109 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,200 You'll be straight in and out. 110 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,160 That's what you said last time. 111 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,990 - Morning, Julie. - Jenny. 112 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,480 Just popping in. 113 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,640 Hi... 114 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,160 Careful. 115 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,960 - John? - Oh, there you are. I... 116 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,710 I... thought you might be under the desk. 117 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,280 - Why would I be under the desk? - I did wonder. 118 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,350 - What are you doing here? - Nothing, really. 119 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,150 Lucy's gone into town. 120 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,590 What's that? 121 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,960 - It's the case we're working. - On. 122 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Working on. 123 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,830 You do know we do them without you sometimes? 124 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,350 Ah, victim's name was Tiffany Catley. 125 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,040 AKA Tiffycat. 126 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,550 - Was she a gangster? - Does she sound like a gangster? 127 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:47,670 She was a social media influencer turned businesswoman. 128 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:49,242 Started off doing make-up tip videos. 129 00:08:49,252 --> 00:08:50,510 Ended up running an empire. 130 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,710 Or, at least, a particularly successful brand. 131 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,830 Millionaire by 25. She turned 30. She retired. 132 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,720 - I'll say she did. - From her job. 133 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,990 She was handed an offer she couldn't refuse. 134 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,239 So she threw a flashy party to announce it. 135 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,990 Eight-figure-plus, the brand, the company. 136 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,760 And what happened next, nobody saw coming. 137 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,990 The party continued on after she left. 138 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,070 We know she went home. 139 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,910 We know she left again, because just after midnight she was found here. 140 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,120 Scholar's Fountain. 141 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,830 - She walked there? - Can't drive there. Not at night. 142 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,360 It's all bollards, mewses, and cycle-lanes. 143 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,840 Why would she do that? 144 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,470 She received an anonymous text. 145 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,470 "£25,000. Scholar's Fountain. One hour." 146 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,470 - Not a good look for the brand. - Yeah. 147 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,710 An old photo like that could blow the whole deal. 148 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,550 Whoever sent that probably killed her. 149 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:54,870 Yeah, we came to a similarly brilliant conclusion ourselves. 150 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,280 It's from a burner phone, John. 151 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,710 Disposable spare. 152 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,200 And who are these people? Are they suspects? 153 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,590 John, what are you doing here? 154 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,510 What do you mean? I already told you. 155 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,080 What makes them suspects? 156 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,630 They all left at the same time, just after the victim. 157 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,030 These were Tiffany's oldest friends. 158 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,270 They were there from the very beginning. 159 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,390 Co-company directors in all but name, 160 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,150 though not actually in name. So... 161 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,970 Not a good night for them, then. 162 00:10:28,980 --> 00:10:30,790 I think that's putting it mildly. 163 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,750 So you have a motive. That's good. 164 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,710 I know how much you like those. 165 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,720 And this is where they all live, is it? 166 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,350 - What sort of time would it take for them to... - Ten minutes, give or take, 167 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,470 from each of the suspects' houses to Scholar's Fountain. 168 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,070 The victims, too. 169 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,510 That's handy. Nice round number. So what we need to ascertain... 170 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,150 No, no, no, we don't need to ascertain anything, John. 171 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,342 It's not a puzzle. 172 00:10:55,352 --> 00:10:57,390 - Feels like one. - It's not. 173 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,750 Believe it or not, we've got this. 174 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,070 We're not dealing with some evil genius here. 175 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,910 This area is riddled with CCTV. 176 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,840 The killer's going to be on camera multiple times there and back. 177 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,560 It's not a puzzle. 178 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,200 Seriously, John, what are you doing here? 179 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,560 I was bored. 180 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,640 OK. That I believe. 181 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,720 Can't guarantee you a murder every day, John. 182 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,720 - What are you going to do now? - I don't know, John. 183 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,710 My job, paperwork... 184 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,990 answering calls from DC Cole. 185 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,040 DC Cole. 186 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,240 Wait, what do you mean? 187 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,080 Well, that's not possible, is it? 188 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,120 All right, stay put. 189 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,920 I'm going to look at the CCTV myself. 190 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,950 - You can come with me, if you like. - Really? I'd better not. 191 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,390 Lucy only really dropped me off to do the shopping. 192 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,190 - What, and they don't have a creche? - What? 193 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,560 I-I'd better wait for her here. 194 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,240 Here? 195 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,280 Would that be OK? 196 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:47,700 _ 197 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,630 Sir. Oh, what are you doing here? 198 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,870 I wasn't allowed to stay in the office. 199 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,950 - Why did you call Mr Taylor? - He didn't. 200 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,030 I... don't... understand. 201 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,430 OK, DC Sullivan, what are we looking at? 202 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,000 Can I use that thing again? 203 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,480 Here she comes. 204 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,360 Still in her heels. 205 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,070 If you're meeting your blackmailer in a secluded location at night 206 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,150 and you're still in your heels, 207 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,670 you're not frightened of your blackmailer. 208 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:21,960 She knew them. 209 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,070 Mm, the cameras catch her again, 210 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,630 just around the corner on Cable Street. 211 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,790 - How did she do that? - How did she do what? 212 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,470 How did she get from there all the way down to there? 213 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,270 Wh-wh-why didn't she come out here? 214 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,470 I'm not sure this footage is very reliable. 215 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,110 Uh, are you under the impression 216 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,350 that these monitors are in some kind of order? 217 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,390 - Of course. Why wouldn't they be? - They're not. 218 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:52,150 They're not? Well, why not? You've got a map right here. 219 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,190 Why don't they correspond to that grid? 220 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,810 I don't know. They... don't. 221 00:13:56,820 --> 00:13:58,430 Well, can't you make them? 222 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,790 Doesn't need to, John. We can all follow it just fine. 223 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,080 Carry on. 224 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,990 She is then captured on five more cameras 225 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,800 on her way to the meeting point. 226 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,750 That's it. Scholar's Fountain. 227 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,190 Camera only covers half of it. 228 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,830 Body was found in the half it doesn't. 229 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,710 Scholar's Fountain shouldn't be there. 230 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,510 It should be in the middle here. 231 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,990 Why doesn't this drive you potty? 232 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,480 I usually bring in a book. 233 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,720 So after midnight now, and, yeah, no sign of anyone else. 234 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,710 Look all you want, sir. Nobody appears. 235 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,040 We've checked twice. 236 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,910 Uh, how many cameras are we talking here, exactly? 237 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,670 - 48, sir. - And you're telling me nobody other than 238 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,990 the victim appears on a single one of them? 239 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,630 No, sir. 240 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,640 As in, yes, we are telling you that. No, they don't. 241 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,560 Told you it felt like a puzzle. 242 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,000 Morning! 243 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,750 - How did you get in here? - That door is never locked. 244 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,950 - I just unlocked it. Who are you? - Henry. 245 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,350 That is my son, Henry. 246 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,870 It was his idea to come here, actually. 247 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,170 What? No, you said it would be OK. 248 00:15:47,180 --> 00:15:48,470 You said you do this all the time. 249 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,350 She does... do it all the time. 250 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,840 There you go. 251 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,950 Shouldn't you be prepping for this interview thing of yours 252 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,750 we now actually have to do? 253 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,270 I am off prepping for this interview thing I have to do. 254 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,110 In fact, we've been trawling the internet all morning for 255 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,230 local archive news stories of Joanne Kemper. 256 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,590 Absolutely bugger all. 257 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,990 You don't need local archive news stories 258 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,470 about her to interview her. 259 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,870 I do need local archive news stories to interview her, 260 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,670 but no local outlets archive stories online. 261 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,830 - The nationals do. - But the locals don't. 262 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,710 But then, Henry reminded me that I do actually work for one. 263 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,630 No, you don't. You're not even paid. 264 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,230 I'm sorry, he doesn't pay you? 265 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,910 - Oh, we're still negotiating that. - No, we're not. 266 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,480 Do you think we could access your archive? 267 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,830 You're imagining a giant library with projectors 268 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,480 - and microfiche, aren't you? - No. 269 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,350 Well, if it's anything after May 6th, 2014, we don't have it. 270 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,750 Why? What happened then? 271 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,550 I accidentally became editor. The previous one was deranged. 272 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,430 So he did actually keep copies of every issue. 273 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,720 They're through there. 274 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,630 Occasionally, somebody asks for one 275 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,150 if their birth's been mentioned in it, or something. 276 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,110 I usually charge 20 quid. 277 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:09,830 - What? - Well, it's a pain in the arse to dig them out. 278 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,790 Which one do you want? 279 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,520 I don't know. Anything with Joanne Kemper in it. 280 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,080 - Do a little search? - On a cupboard? 281 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,360 So we actually need to know what we're looking for? 282 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,680 Does this sort of thing run in the family, or are you normal? 283 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,640 Sir. 284 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,430 - Found a spare. - Good. 285 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,800 John, interviews. 286 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,230 I'm all right, thanks. 287 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,950 If you're consulting, then you're watching interviews. 288 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:03,190 Really? Do I have to? Are they long? 289 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,150 I could probably find you a spare cubicle or... 290 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,910 Oh, no, I don't think so. Let's... put him where we can see him. 291 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,080 Right here. 292 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,470 You know what you're like with computers, John. 293 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,200 You'll probably need the help. 294 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,870 Here you go. 295 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,750 You click to play and click to stop. 296 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,230 Do I have to do them in order, or can I jump about? 297 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,080 - In order! - What?! 298 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,360 You have to do it in order. 299 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,430 DC Cole commencing interview with Coco Aar-... 300 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,990 All right. 301 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,710 Update. Potted history. Go. 302 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,430 They were all friends from school. 303 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,430 And, by all accounts, something of the in-crowd. 304 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,710 Tiffany was queen bee. 305 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,230 Oh, she was a star, even then. 306 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,950 Everybody loved her. 307 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,270 Students, teachers, parents. 308 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,710 She used to make little dance videos and things, like everyone else. 309 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,830 Rants about school, bedroom dance moves. You know the drill. 310 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,270 Then she started doing make-up tutorials. 311 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,910 It took off... like, instantly. 312 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,630 She was at 8k subs within a week. 313 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,790 Just never stopped growing. 314 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,190 She was 17. By the time she was sitting her A-levels, 315 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,910 she was getting free gifts from Gucci and invites to award shows. 316 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,030 It's nice work if you can get it. 317 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,110 She got it and so did they. 318 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:28,030 How do you think I felt? 319 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,640 She was my best friend. 320 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,109 It was... exciting. 321 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,360 No-one could believe how fast it happened. 322 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,599 It was her. All her. 323 00:19:38,609 --> 00:19:41,480 We were just... there for the ride. 324 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,040 She took care of us, though. I mean, spoiled. 325 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:49,070 We wanted for nothing. 326 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,190 Look, we weren't charity cases. 327 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,190 It might sound like that now, but trust me, we worked. 328 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,470 Her success was ours. We were a family. 329 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,760 That's how it felt. 330 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,230 Every single one of them was given 331 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,350 a debit card with full access to company money. 332 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:06,790 You're kidding me? 333 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,110 Two of them pay their mortgages out of it. 334 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:11,440 Or at least did until last night. 335 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,750 And nothing changes for anybody here. 336 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,110 Nobody is losing their job. 337 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:24,040 Tiffycat is going to remain Tiffycat... forever. 338 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,120 It's just... 339 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,640 time for me to find Tiffany again. 340 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,079 - Cheers. - Cheers! 341 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,270 They were essentially paid friends. 342 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,630 An entourage. 343 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,990 They put their own lives on hold for her, 344 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,390 built up nothing of their own, 345 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,790 trusted that their ride-or-die really was their ride-or-die. 346 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,480 - And then the ride ended. - And she died. 347 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,990 Wait! No-one's going to lose their jobs? 348 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,150 - They're all fine. What about us? - What about you? 349 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,870 Our lives, our careers. Tiffany, we don't have any contracts. 350 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,830 - We're just... - We... 351 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,470 We're not just anything. 352 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,630 We're four people who built this entire empire with you. 353 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,430 For you. 354 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,200 I know. 355 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,160 And wasn't it fun? 356 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:24,710 Didn't I give you everything I promised, and more? 357 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,150 Luxury hotels, movie premieres, 358 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,360 celebrity parties, cars, clothes... 359 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,400 rehab. 360 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,840 And when exactly was the last time you turned right on a plane? 361 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,190 This party has been going on for ten years, 362 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,910 and I have been an exceptional host. 363 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,560 But I am very, very tired. 364 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,119 I really do love you all. 365 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,830 My cards stopped working that morning before the party. 366 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,830 We just thought it was a bank issue, or something. 367 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,821 So wait, we... know they went home? 368 00:22:06,831 --> 00:22:08,870 Uh, yeah. Taxis were arranged. 369 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,360 They left together, and we've had each drop-off confirmed. 370 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,030 Took their last sip of free champagne 371 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,400 and went their separate ways. 372 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:27,440 Sorry. 373 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,880 Bloody suspects. Ha. 374 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,470 Everyone was home by 23.30. Two of them live alone, and two 375 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,550 of them have sleeping spousal alibis. 376 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,390 Which basically means they don't have alibis. 377 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,710 - Which basically means... - Any one of them could have done it. 378 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:46,800 No, they couldn't. 379 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,230 The odds of just one person's 380 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,150 route bypassing 48 cameras are astronomical. 381 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,880 You can't simply claim that any of them could have done it. 382 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,750 DC Sullivan and I conducted those interviews, Mr Taylor. 383 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,670 They're at least half an hour long. 384 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,920 I got the general gist. 385 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,590 Presumably you picked up on the fact the original 386 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,630 website belonged to Coco and not Tiffany, then? 387 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,110 Six times you've mentioned that now. 388 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:13,944 Not once have you commented on 389 00:23:13,954 --> 00:23:16,510 the fact that Zack there was Tiffany's ex. 390 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,630 So you've found secondary motives too? That's good. 391 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,910 Sometimes we need those if the killer refuses to confess. 392 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,978 Um, what was that? 393 00:23:24,988 --> 00:23:26,990 - Can I have this? - No, you can't have it. 394 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,230 Well, where do you get them? 395 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,670 And are there any with the cameras on them? 396 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,670 - Maps don't show cameras, John. - Are you sure? 397 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,520 One would certainly have helped the killer. 398 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,120 Right. 399 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,670 - Hi, Lucy. - We're here. Are you ready? 400 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,510 Yes, I'm leaving now. 401 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,670 Not if you haven't accessed that computer yet, you're not, no. 402 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,190 I have accessed a computer. 403 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,630 - Really? - Yes, really. I'm in the lift. 404 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,960 It'll probably cut out. 405 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,120 - OK. - Doors closing. 406 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,750 - No, no, it hasn't cut out. - Give it time. 407 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,480 Doors opening. 408 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,760 Ma'am. Um, hel-... Hello. 409 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,950 I wasn't aware of you being here today, John. 410 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,000 It's the Super. 411 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,120 - Oh, just popped in, really. - Popped in? 412 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,030 This is John Taylor, an outside consultant we occasionally use. 413 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,150 Doors opening. 414 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,480 We've met. 415 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,430 John Taylor. 416 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,280 Professional puzzle setter and crime scene consultant. 417 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,350 It's my job to vet those who interact with Miss Kemper. 418 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:53,790 She passes on her thanks, by the way, 419 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,550 for your discretion on the theatre case. 420 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,590 No press coverage at all. 421 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,190 Oh, yes, there was. 422 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,870 At least none that matters. 423 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,950 Cheeky bugger. 424 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,350 Yes, well, as I hope you're learning, 425 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,670 we're all very discreet here. Shall we? 426 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,160 And your brother was a detective here, I understand. 427 00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,520 Uh... before my time. 428 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,720 My phone's ringing. 429 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,030 - Is it? - Well, it was earlier. 430 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,120 Hello! 431 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,800 - Oh, sorry, are you talking to us? - Yes. 432 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,360 Oh, thank God they're going. 433 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,270 Wait. Where are you? 434 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,070 In the car park. 435 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,080 No! No! No! 436 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,523 Duck. Duck! 437 00:25:48,533 --> 00:25:50,830 Why? Why? Why am I ducking? 438 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,190 That's Joanne Kemper's private security. 439 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,110 You're interviewing Joanne Kemper on Monday. 440 00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:59,200 He might be there. You're very distinctive. 441 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,430 He's right, Mum. Duck. 442 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,790 Duck! 443 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,520 I'm ducking, I'm ducking. 444 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,630 See you later. 445 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,350 What's going on? 446 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:12,760 OK. He's gone. 447 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,160 The Superintendent's seen me. 448 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,430 - Uh, she... She's waving. - Hey, don't wave back! 449 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,880 I can't not wave back. 450 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,310 Ma'am. Ma'am, so sorry about that. 451 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,470 Wrong number. 452 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,310 Sounded Australian. So, how are you? 453 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,520 Where's Lucy? 454 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,950 There she is. 455 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:44,950 - You popped in? - I was in the area. 456 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,710 Don't pop in again. 457 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,479 Right you are... ma'am. 458 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,520 In what way am I distinctive? 459 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Why was John Taylor here? And don't say he popped in. 460 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,030 Uh, we're using him. He's consulting on the fountain murder. 461 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,030 Without my authorisation? 462 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,750 He's just had a full conversation with 463 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,950 the man who's currently digging into everything that happened here. 464 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,950 How'd it go? 465 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,280 How do you think it went, Detective Chief Inspector? 466 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,750 John Taylor does not enter this station without my say-so. 467 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,470 Understood? 468 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,880 Yes, ma'am. 469 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,800 No, no, no, no. Leave that. I'll return it. As you were. 470 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,040 Sir. 471 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,110 - Restricted? - I don't know why I'm surprised. 472 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:15,200 They always are. 473 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,270 I don't like sitting in the back. 474 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,710 Yeah? Nor do I. 475 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,590 I'm trying to think. 476 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,670 So there is some type of report. James was involved. 477 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,430 And Joanne Kemper's name is in it somewhere. 478 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,150 No, hang on, we already knew all that. 479 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,640 - Why have we stopped here? - I need to get some milk. 480 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,230 Have you got your camera with you? 481 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,710 John, a photojournalist doesn't go anywhere without her camera. 482 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,270 Right? 483 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,030 - So, have you got it on you, or...? - Yes, I've got it. 484 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,310 What do you want it for? 485 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,190 I need you to take a photo of 48 different security cameras. 486 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,750 It's for a case. 487 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,070 You haven't got a case. 488 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,990 I've sort of picked one up. 489 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,790 And I do think it's in my best interests to solve it. 490 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,910 I'm getting a distinct vibe from everyone back there. 491 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,990 Right, well, I'm not being funny, but I haven't eaten in, 492 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,310 like, six hours. 493 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,630 There's a fish and chip shop just down there. 494 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,330 Cambridge Cod, open 12.00 till 2.30 495 00:29:12,340 --> 00:29:15,030 and 5.00 till 8.45.9.15 Saturdays. 496 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,630 How on earth do you know that? 497 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,870 I've been staring at a map for hours. 498 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,350 We haven't been out for fish and chips in months. 499 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,310 - Years, actually. - Right, well, there you go, then. 500 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,440 - Please, Mum. - Please, Mum. 501 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,680 OK, there's one up there. 502 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,160 Now one of where it's pointing. 503 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,030 You know, I'm... 504 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,070 I'm really having second thoughts about this interview. 505 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,680 I can't pull out now, can I? 506 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,843 Can you not? 507 00:29:51,853 --> 00:29:54,191 What did you get from the report? Case name? 508 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,510 Anything like that? 509 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,710 No, nothing. You know what those link things are like. 510 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,830 It's all letters and numbers, gobbledegook. 511 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,390 And not the kind I like. 512 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,640 And there. 513 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,150 There was a date. 514 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,350 - It had a date? - 4th June, 2014. 515 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,790 Oh, no! No, that's after Gareth became editor. 516 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,590 - He won't have archived that. - What? 517 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,830 Oh, no, that's my part of the investigation. 518 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,470 It doesn't really concern you. 519 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,750 Right. Where next? 520 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,840 There. 521 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,230 Here's another. 522 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,390 Good, God, I think he's enjoying this. 523 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,480 It is quite fun. 524 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,670 Do you remember what the conspiracy blog said? 525 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,710 The Kempers performing ritual sacrifice every decade. 526 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,630 Your case file was 2014. Sinclair death was 2024. 527 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,230 That's the kind of coincidence that excites conspiracy theorists. 528 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,630 But it means nothing. 529 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,430 Unless we find another one from 2004. 530 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,270 Well, Joanne Kemper was 18 in 2004. 531 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,550 She was here studying politics. 532 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,520 Yeah, well, students can kill people, too, you know. 533 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,720 Henry, students can't even boil an egg. 534 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,160 Here we are, Scholar's Fountain. 535 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,280 - Can't see any cameras in here. - That's part of the problem. 536 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,720 - Who was it? - Young woman, 30. Strangled. 537 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,760 She'd just been to a party. 538 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,320 - Are you going to catch who did it? - Oh, yes. 539 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,760 Right, shall we find that fish and chip shop? 540 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,280 I fancy a battered sausage. 541 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,680 - They're good pictures, aren't they? - They're all right. 542 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,150 Do they help? 543 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,070 Well, they're certainly better arranged than at the council. 544 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,440 It's chaos down there. 545 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,510 Why are you having second thoughts about the interview? 546 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,670 Why do you think? 547 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,750 Joanne Kemper obviously knows who James was. 548 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,150 She obviously knows who I am. 549 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,590 For all we know, she already knows everything. 550 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,950 Oh, no, no. No, I use my maiden name. 551 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,749 That's hardly the Enigma code, Lucy. 552 00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:23,240 It's most people's password. 553 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,270 Well, it's just that you said that you thought I could do it. 554 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,110 And it's nice to hear. 555 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,110 - I don't hear that very much. - What are you talking about? 556 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,910 I'm always telling you you can do things. 557 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,880 I used to tell you you could be Prime Minister one day. 558 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,040 Well, you never tried. 559 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,310 Everyone who's so much as smiled at Joanne Kemper 560 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,910 seems to have either died or disappeared. 561 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,560 I don't want YOU to die or disappear. 562 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,480 I don't know what I'd do. 563 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,880 Don't let your chips get cold. 564 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,830 I've got it! Found it. 565 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,670 - Oh, gosh, Henry! - Wake up! 566 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,870 You can't be barging into people's bedrooms at 7:30 in the morning. 567 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,150 You're aware of the irony there, right? 568 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,310 - Look. - Dominic Kennedy. Who's that? 569 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:42,510 I don't know, but I spent hours last night mining and waybacking 570 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:47,070 and chucking in terms like student, death, Cambridge, uh, 571 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,150 tribute, obituary, 2004. 572 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,230 That's from an old website. 573 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,470 It's completely abandoned and leads nowhere. 574 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,270 But that single post is the only 575 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,390 reference to any student death 576 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,110 in Cambridge in 2004 that I could find. 577 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,990 - So? - So, it's 2004. 578 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,470 2004! 579 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,670 Yes, I know, Henry, but it doesn't mean anything. 580 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,470 You heard your Uncle John. 581 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,270 - I already told him. He agrees. - No, he doesn't. 582 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,400 - I do, actually. Are you decent? - I wouldn't go that far. 583 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,030 Why do we have so many meetings in bedrooms? 584 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,520 Will you just tell her? 585 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,230 We don't need to believe the conspiracy, Lucy. 586 00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:28,190 The conspiracy theorist believed it. 587 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,950 He thought he was finding patterns between events. 588 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,990 - Now, obviously he wasn't. - Well, he might have been. 589 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,350 He wasn't. But he still found the events, 590 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,720 and probably in exactly the same way Henry did. 591 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,310 So, wait, so you're saying this could mean something? 592 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,310 Yeah, well, I'm quite good at this, too, you know. 593 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,000 Yes, I know. That's what worries me. 594 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,150 Why are you already dressed? 595 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,110 I need to go in early, and preferably before any of the team 596 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,310 show up so I can draw on their map. 597 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,920 So, um... 598 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,160 Well, you're awake now anyway. 599 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,830 - John. - Oh, there you are again. 600 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,390 Do you mind if I draw on this? 601 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,630 You've already drawn on it and you're still drawing on it. 602 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,430 It won't make sense unless I put the cameras on. 603 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,950 John, you're not a consultant on this case. 604 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,990 - Yes, I am. - No, you're not. 605 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,320 You haven't been authorised, and I got reprimanded for it. 606 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,390 - Why did you come in yesterday? - You do know I've solved this? 607 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,760 You haven't solved it. You're still drawing on it now. 608 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,830 - What were you looking for yesterday? - I CAN solve it. 609 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,630 - I do sort of need a bit of help, though. - You need help? 610 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,270 No, like a proper detective. 611 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,080 Yeah. I can't really talk right now. I'm at the station. 612 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,670 - Can you really solve it? - If you help. 613 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,230 All right, let's make a deal. 614 00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:09,590 You unofficially consult on the case, I take the rap, 615 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,190 and you tell me the real reason you came in yesterday. 616 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,640 - Sounds good. - No, John. The REAL reason. 617 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,950 Deal. 618 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,190 What's going on? 619 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,430 What's going on is that I think it can be proved 620 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,390 that only one person could have committed this murder. 621 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,480 But it's going to take all of us to do it. 622 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,000 June 2004? 623 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,390 Great. Right in the middle of the pile, it's like Jenga in there. 624 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,920 - Do you really need this? - Please. 625 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,070 I want two puzzles next week, 626 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,760 and don't let him fob me off with a word search. 627 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,190 Right, June '04. 628 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,640 June '04. June '04. 629 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,070 Ah, June '04. Yes. 630 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,360 - 18th. - Yeah, I know. 631 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,680 June. Here we are. 632 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,040 I can do it. I can do it. 633 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,880 There you go. Hope it was worth it. 634 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,600 Brilliant. Here we go. 635 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,550 What are you doing? Go home. 636 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,160 - Oh, no, just pretend that we're not here. - You're always here! 637 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,040 Mum, look, there. 638 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,670 "Reporting on the tragic death of Dominic Kennedy, 639 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,790 "an 18-year-old student attending St Thomas's College, Cambridge. 640 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,710 "Mr Kennedy was reportedly attending 641 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:02,070 "a private party at the residence of student council officers 642 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,320 "Ryan Oakley, 19, and Joanne Kemper, 18." 643 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,390 You're not planning on bringing that up, though, are you? 644 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,950 Oh, no, no, no. God, no. 645 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,670 Bum lead. 646 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,840 Yeah. 647 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,390 See, the suspects are already here. 648 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,030 I told you we shouldn't have stopped. 649 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,150 Yeah, and I told you my car needed charging to keep moving. 650 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,110 Excuse me. Can one of you tell me 651 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,310 why these suspects of yours are here? 652 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,520 Hopefully, we're about to reveal the killer. 653 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,190 Yeah, but it's a pretty small space. 654 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,670 Why do they all ACTUALLY have to be here? 655 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,670 It's kind of his process. 656 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,190 Hello. John Taylor, Puzzle Consultant. 657 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,870 Crime Scene Consultant. 658 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,630 That does sound more like an actual job, 659 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,510 but basically, I'm a puzzle consultant. 660 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,110 And you four found yourselves literally in the middle of the most 661 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,790 classic puzzle of all - a complex interconnection of paths 662 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,870 with only one true route through and multiple misdirects. 663 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,560 Labyrinthos. The Maze. 664 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,310 You mean like what they put on the back of menus for kids? 665 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,390 Exactly like they put on the back of menus for kids. 666 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,350 You know the ones, with four dogs outside the maze 667 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,190 and a big juicy bone in the middle with only one path to it. 668 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,670 Well, imagine that across a larger scale and with a second 669 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,470 perceptual maze overlaying it where the barriers aren't walls, 670 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,490 but the lines of sight of 48 security cameras 671 00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:44,920 disparately placed across the grid. 672 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,630 - They'd have to negotiate two mazes. - Yes! 673 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,880 Well done! He gets it. 674 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,196 And we're the dogs? 675 00:39:55,206 --> 00:39:57,830 You're the dogs. And, exactly like the dogs, 676 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,670 you each had your own point of entry to the maze, 677 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,550 but only one of them led to the... 678 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,910 Bone? 679 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,310 I should have chosen a better example. 680 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,030 But, yes. Meaning we can prove who did it by demonstrating 681 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,030 who doesn't appear on camera. 682 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,710 Because whoever doesn't appear on camera must 683 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,030 have negotiated the maze successfully. 684 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,430 But they said none of us appear on camera. 685 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,510 Well, no. 686 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,670 But three of you never entered the maze. 687 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,790 What would have been handy is 688 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,190 if all four of you had decided to make 689 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,350 a trip to Scholar's Fountain at exactly the same time. 690 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,190 But you didn't. 691 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,440 So, we did. 692 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,710 Uh, one for you. You're Zack. 693 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,499 No, I want to be Zack. It's always the ex. 694 00:40:43,509 --> 00:40:45,270 Oh, OK. Give me Coco. 695 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,830 Sorry... 696 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,870 Victim's entire business was built off 697 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,910 the back of a channel she stole from her. 698 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,404 I think I'll be Leo. 699 00:40:52,414 --> 00:40:56,280 Yeah, I'm not really getting Leo from you, John. 700 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,600 No, yeah, I'm a Leo. 701 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,360 I suppose I'm a Jennifer, then. 702 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,440 We cleared the area, and all four of us walked the maze this morning. 703 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,310 Basically, look out for any of us appearing on camera. 704 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,350 If it's DC Sullivan, Zack didn't do it. 705 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,750 If it's DC Cole, Coco didn't do it. 706 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,030 If it's DCI Carter, Leo didn't do it. 707 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,430 And if it's me, Jennifer didn't do it. 708 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,600 Everybody follow? 709 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,550 Hopefully the operator here has the footage lined up. 710 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,775 - Colin. - What? 711 00:41:39,785 --> 00:41:41,750 My name's Colin. 712 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,230 Nice to meet you. 713 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:44,910 Do you have the footage lined up? 714 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,640 Yeah, I'm just going to play it. 715 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,880 How long is this going to take? 716 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,430 We all tried to move pretty fast. 717 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,550 There was a time aspect to this, too. 718 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,760 There! 719 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:31,630 Oh! Oh, it's me. I mean, it's you. 720 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,000 You're in the clear, Zack. 721 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,200 Oh, I'd know that man anywhere. 722 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,360 Looks like you're off the hook. 723 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,949 Who you waving at? 724 00:43:07,959 --> 00:43:09,750 - John. - I did wave back. 725 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,840 He did wave back. 726 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,560 Right, must be one of the girls, then. 727 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,870 I have to say, it kind of feels 728 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,710 like we'd be arriving at the fountain by now. 729 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:41,200 Yeah. Is there any possibility there are two routes through this? 730 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,430 Well, obviously there's always 731 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,596 the statistical unlikelihood that... 732 00:43:45,606 --> 00:43:46,960 There! There! There! 733 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,560 Uh, you missed it. Go back, go back. 734 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,280 Forward, forward. 735 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,600 Keep it there. Keep it there. 736 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,240 Sorry. 737 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,520 What? 738 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,400 I didn't do it. 739 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,350 - Yes, you did. - No, I didn't. 740 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,270 I say you did. And this proves it. 741 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,670 We both made it to the fountain without being seen. 742 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,870 Which means it's you. 743 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,520 No, it doesn't. 744 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:37,950 Oh, I knew they'd do this. 745 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,750 What... what were those secondary motives again? 746 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,590 Um, well, uh, Coco was the original owner of the Tiffycat account. 747 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,440 And Zack was Tiffany's ex. 748 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,565 We went on one date ten years ago. 749 00:44:50,575 --> 00:44:52,270 I wish you'd told me that. 750 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,350 So you don't have any secondary motives for Jennifer? 751 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,750 Well, no. 752 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,600 Maybe you should have actually watched the interviews. 753 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,790 She must have taken that blackmail photo at some point. 754 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,070 Yeah, back in 2019. 755 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,750 What... Why did she have a burner phone in 2019? 756 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,990 Well, I doubt she took the original photo on the burner, 757 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,150 just sent it from it. 758 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,840 So what did she take it on? 759 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,040 Could I go to the toilet, please? 760 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,360 Maybe at the station, eh? 761 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,470 You didn't even delete it? 762 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,830 Wow, you must be really stupid. 763 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,710 How the hell did you pull this off? 764 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:48,190 Blind luck, really. 765 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,880 Her flat just happened to be next to the right path. 766 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,590 - Tiffany bought you that flat. - Tiffany bought all of us. 767 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,270 And how are we expected to live now? 768 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,919 Well, in your case, there's free bed and board. 769 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,430 Jennifer Wicks, I am arresting you on suspicion of murder. 770 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,350 You do not have to say anything, but it... 771 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,640 Very rarely need a secondary motive. 772 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,120 People are pretty basic. 773 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:32,230 Well... 774 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:34,080 Sorry. Congratulations. 775 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,760 Oh, that "well". 776 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,110 Lucy's husband has vanished. 777 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,190 Henry's father has vanished. 778 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,790 They're scared. 779 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,150 And you? 780 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,670 I don't like them being scared. 781 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,390 And I don't like half solved puzzles. 782 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,470 You're still investigating us? 783 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,280 I'm still investigating you. 784 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,070 I know Lucy visited Holly's killer. 785 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,150 We know YOU visited Holly's killer. 786 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,310 Yeah, well, I don't like half solved puzzles either. 787 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,270 Or... 788 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,640 being left in the dark. 789 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,640 - What's that? - It's the file you were searching for yesterday. 790 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,000 Unlike you, I have clearance. 791 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,000 _ 792 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,070 - _ - 2014. 793 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,950 I don't really understand it myself, but it's one of James's, all right. 794 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,680 But it all seems pretty straightforward. 795 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,510 They always do. 796 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,880 But it means something, right? 797 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,990 Suicide by a random guy, 798 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,160 cleared and closed by James. 799 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,080 - Yes, it means something. - OK, tell me what? 800 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,000 _ 801 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,800 I don't know. 802 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,430 It's a bit embarrassing, but, to be honest, 803 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,510 I don't think we're much further along than you are. 804 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,519 Well, this is going to be pretty, isn't it? 805 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,350 I thought that was you, DCI Carter. 806 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,950 - I hear you closed that case you're working on. - Yeah. 807 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,470 Was John Taylor of any help? 808 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,830 Um, actually, yes. Yes. 809 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,270 Good. 810 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,470 I also understand your sister in law will be 811 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,190 interviewing Miss Kemper tomorrow. 812 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,950 Uh, what? Sorry? 813 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,320 Lucy Betts. 814 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,190 That is your sister in law, isn't it? 815 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,720 Um, she's Betts-Taylor now. 816 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,880 Well, Joanna's very much looking forward to it. 817 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,600 Well done again. 818 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,350 - Not much further than you? - I swear. 819 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,990 Joanne Kemper. 820 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,470 I mean, we know she's involved, but... But that's it. 821 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,840 We don't know how or why or what or any of it. 822 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,870 I think I might need you to trust me here. 823 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,544 - Do you trust me? - Yes. 824 00:49:07,554 --> 00:49:10,080 - What, really? - Well, yes. 825 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,110 I always thought back when I was James, we... 826 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,270 We kind of made a good team. 827 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,400 Oh, back when you were openly lying to me every day, you mean. 828 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,560 Well, yeah, actually, I suppose we did, didn't we? 829 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,310 From now on, we compare notes. 830 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,760 Agreed. 831 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,120 Aren't you going to take me home? 832 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,270 I thought Lucy was picking you up. 833 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,919 I don't know why you thought that. 834 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,270 John, we're in here. 835 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,590 Just taking down some of these photos. 836 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,910 - I assume you solved that case. - Yes. 837 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,790 Um, Lucy... 838 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,240 Guess what we found. Henry, show him. 839 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,470 Oh, no. 840 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,190 Oh, no? Oh, yes! 841 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,750 This is what we were looking for. 842 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,070 This is J Kemper, 843 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,030 linked with a death in 2004. 844 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,550 I wasn't expecting "eureka," but, you know. 845 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,870 What's this? 846 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,910 The restricted file, James's case from 2014. 847 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,310 Suicide. Closed by him. 848 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,190 See the victim's name? 849 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,799 - Ryan Oakley. - Ryan Oakley... 850 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:40,310 Dominic Kennedy died in Kemper and Oakley's hot tub. 851 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,754 This is amazing. We've done it. 852 00:50:41,764 --> 00:50:43,430 All the threads are coming together. 853 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,790 She's connected to James. She's connected to Ziegler. 854 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,510 She's connected to two unexplained deaths. 855 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,270 - Ten years apart. - That are both connected to one another. 856 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,550 OK, now I am really expecting "eureka." 857 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,480 Joanne Kemper knows who we are. 858 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,390 She knows that the wife of DCI James Taylor 859 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,910 is interviewing her tomorrow afternoon at four. 860 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,830 - What? - No, no-no-no-no, because I used my maiden name. 861 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,830 They know everything about us, Lucy. 862 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,270 I'm telling you, they know who I am, who you are. 863 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,110 I imagine they probably know that DCI Carter's digging around 864 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,470 in all this too. 865 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,030 DCI Carter? 866 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,550 Yes. Don't worry, we're way further along than him. 867 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,206 OK, what does this mean? Are we in danger? 868 00:51:21,216 --> 00:51:22,310 Potentially. 869 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,310 I'm hoping there's a limit to the number of people 870 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,470 you can effectively make disappear. 871 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,190 Right, and if there isn't? 872 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,750 - Well, we've got to leave. - No, no, we can't do that, Henry. 873 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,150 What?! 874 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,750 She's right. Where would we go? 875 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,990 Mine? Do you think they wouldn't be able to find us there? 876 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,080 It's too late. 877 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,720 We've been playing a game without an opponent. 878 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,680 But now we've got one and she's playing back. 879 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,470 I still need to do the interview. 880 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,830 Why? 881 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,590 Standard game theory. 882 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,550 Her latest move puts us beyond the point of no return. 883 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,800 It would be more dangerous to stop playing than to continue. 884 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,480 Can you do it? 885 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,720 I can do anything. 886 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,040 Yes, in theory, but you don't always try. 887 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,000 I mean, I know you can. 888 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,950 Oh, my God, this is insane. 889 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,630 Oh, goodness' sake! 890 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,350 She's not going to pull out a gun and shoot me 891 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,320 while I'm interviewing her, is she? 892 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,070 - Is she? - Highly unlikely, 893 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,550 but I'm not sure you're phrasing that right. 894 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,470 Whatever it says on paper, 895 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,880 I can assure you, you're not interviewing her... 896 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,080 she's interviewing you. 897 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:48,000 *CREDITS*