1 00:00:55,881 --> 00:00:57,474 No. 2 00:00:58,145 --> 00:01:01,341 Sweetie, stay with me. 3 00:01:01,365 --> 00:01:03,309 Mom, my stomach hurts. 4 00:01:03,759 --> 00:01:05,409 Mine too. 5 00:01:06,370 --> 00:01:07,782 This'll all be over soon. 6 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,234 Don't be scared. 7 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:26,782 Mommy's gonna fix everything. 8 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:34,786 Please, it's been days. 9 00:01:35,312 --> 00:01:37,551 Have you made your choice? 10 00:01:37,575 --> 00:01:39,403 He needs to eat. 11 00:01:39,427 --> 00:01:42,904 Have you made your choice? 12 00:01:52,241 --> 00:01:53,806 Yes. 13 00:02:00,265 --> 00:02:04,100 Synced & corrected by -robtor- www.addic7ed.com 14 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:06,624 So you're saying that this car is tied 15 00:02:06,648 --> 00:02:08,842 to a missing person's case? What? 16 00:02:08,866 --> 00:02:10,584 A mother and young son disappeared 17 00:02:10,608 --> 00:02:12,282 when they were visiting family upstate. 18 00:02:12,306 --> 00:02:13,653 FBI is assisting in the search, 19 00:02:13,677 --> 00:02:15,937 but this is the first real lead we've gotten. 20 00:02:15,961 --> 00:02:18,094 The plates are a match to the Palmers'. 21 00:02:19,661 --> 00:02:22,553 Well, wherever they went, they left their luggage behind. 22 00:02:22,577 --> 00:02:25,860 Park ranger found it a few days ago abandoned by a trail. 23 00:02:25,884 --> 00:02:28,907 I just got around to logging the plates in this morning. 24 00:02:28,931 --> 00:02:31,823 You've been sitting on the information for 48 hours? 25 00:02:31,847 --> 00:02:33,912 That's the two of them there, OK? 26 00:02:33,936 --> 00:02:35,582 And every second counts, so 27 00:02:35,606 --> 00:02:37,069 if there's anything else you might have overlooked... 28 00:02:37,284 --> 00:02:40,480 Like I told you, the car was abandoned. 29 00:02:40,505 --> 00:02:43,230 - We towed it. - Heads up. 30 00:02:44,425 --> 00:02:46,838 Got a vertical gash on the sidewall of this flat. 31 00:02:46,862 --> 00:02:48,055 It's about two inches long. 32 00:02:48,079 --> 00:02:49,319 Any chance they just hit a curb? 33 00:02:49,343 --> 00:02:50,866 No, I don't think so. 34 00:02:50,891 --> 00:02:53,888 This kerf is deep and narrow, and there's no radial scuffing. 35 00:02:53,912 --> 00:02:55,716 Somebody slashed it. 36 00:02:55,740 --> 00:02:58,371 We need the exact location where this was towed from. 37 00:03:04,227 --> 00:03:06,423 I'm Agent Bell. This is Agent Ramos and Scola. 38 00:03:06,447 --> 00:03:08,294 SUV was over this way. 39 00:03:08,318 --> 00:03:12,342 Tire was flat, so I cut whoever owned it some slack, 40 00:03:12,366 --> 00:03:15,301 - gave him time to find a spare. - When was this? 41 00:03:15,325 --> 00:03:16,781 Thursday. 42 00:03:16,805 --> 00:03:19,523 After a couple days, I called for a tow. 43 00:03:19,547 --> 00:03:22,569 A man's gotta have limits to his goodwill. 44 00:03:22,593 --> 00:03:25,485 Mr. Bream, do you think it's possible that the Palmers 45 00:03:25,509 --> 00:03:26,891 got lost on the trail? 46 00:03:26,915 --> 00:03:30,142 Over the years, some folks have been known to go in and never come out. 47 00:03:30,166 --> 00:03:31,535 What does that mean? 48 00:03:31,559 --> 00:03:34,448 Nature can be cruel, that's all. 49 00:03:35,432 --> 00:03:37,323 You said you were working that day. 50 00:03:37,347 --> 00:03:38,994 You see these people? 51 00:03:39,523 --> 00:03:42,676 No, not that I recall. 52 00:03:42,700 --> 00:03:43,962 Any cameras in the park? 53 00:03:44,052 --> 00:03:46,898 Not unless you're looking for Hessel's hairstreak. 54 00:03:46,922 --> 00:03:48,110 What? 55 00:03:48,134 --> 00:03:50,728 It's a butterfly on the endangered species list. 56 00:03:50,752 --> 00:03:52,425 Beautiful creature. 57 00:03:52,449 --> 00:03:54,427 They're dying off. 58 00:03:54,451 --> 00:03:58,562 Ah, suppose some things are too fragile for this world. 59 00:03:58,586 --> 00:04:02,261 Hanford University put up this camera last year to track 'em. 60 00:04:02,285 --> 00:04:03,697 Pretty sure that it records. 61 00:04:06,071 --> 00:04:07,484 All right, we're gonna need 62 00:04:07,508 --> 00:04:09,225 to get our hands on that footage. 63 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:12,576 And while you're at it, a list of your whereabouts this past week. 64 00:04:15,037 --> 00:04:16,884 We finally caught a break in our missing person's case. 65 00:04:16,908 --> 00:04:18,798 We now know that Valerie and Troy Palmer 66 00:04:18,822 --> 00:04:21,802 detoured on their way from Long Island to Utica. 67 00:04:21,826 --> 00:04:25,110 We located their vehicle here, tires slashed, seemingly abandoned. 68 00:04:25,134 --> 00:04:27,025 But maybe they went hiking 69 00:04:27,049 --> 00:04:29,984 and got lost or hurt, although something tells me 70 00:04:30,008 --> 00:04:31,769 that tire didn't slash itself. 71 00:04:31,793 --> 00:04:33,814 Either way, we are swimming with questions, 72 00:04:33,838 --> 00:04:36,077 and we need to start fishing for answers. Yeah. 73 00:04:36,101 --> 00:04:38,732 State police expanded the search grid to include the trail. 74 00:04:38,756 --> 00:04:40,517 - No trace of the family. - But? 75 00:04:40,541 --> 00:04:42,475 They found Valerie Palmer's cell phone in a ditch, 76 00:04:42,499 --> 00:04:43,998 smashed pretty good. 77 00:04:44,022 --> 00:04:45,609 I do not like where this is going. 78 00:04:45,633 --> 00:04:48,693 Hey, got that butterfly cam video cued to the day 79 00:04:48,717 --> 00:04:50,266 the Palmers went missing. 80 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:51,708 Let her rip. 81 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,922 OK, here they are. 82 00:04:54,946 --> 00:04:57,360 Mother and son stopping for a hike, right? 83 00:04:57,384 --> 00:04:58,839 Tire looks fine. 84 00:04:58,863 --> 00:05:01,886 Scrub forward. Whoa, whoa, whoa. 85 00:05:01,910 --> 00:05:03,453 Who is this? 86 00:05:06,306 --> 00:05:07,718 Whoa. 87 00:05:07,742 --> 00:05:09,285 That explains the tire. 88 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:10,677 Think that's enough for an ID? 89 00:05:10,701 --> 00:05:13,338 - Got a little profile there. - Maybe. 90 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:16,683 - What about the Palmers? - Yeah. 91 00:05:16,707 --> 00:05:19,033 - Scrub forward. - OK. 92 00:05:19,057 --> 00:05:20,450 - OK. - Oh, here we go. 93 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:23,951 Mother and son return from the trail after about an hour. 94 00:05:23,975 --> 00:05:25,605 They see the flat. 95 00:05:25,629 --> 00:05:27,738 And here goes. 96 00:05:27,762 --> 00:05:31,568 - Is that our, uh, tire slasher? - He circles back. 97 00:05:31,592 --> 00:05:32,786 Looks like he's offering to help. 98 00:05:32,810 --> 00:05:35,498 So the tire slasher vandalized the Palmers' vehicle, 99 00:05:35,522 --> 00:05:38,033 then poses as a Good Samaritan to offer them a ride. 100 00:05:38,067 --> 00:05:39,854 Yeah, plan comes together for our bad guy. 101 00:05:39,878 --> 00:05:42,013 So this is not just a missing person's case... 102 00:05:42,037 --> 00:05:43,212 the Palmers were abducted. 103 00:05:43,237 --> 00:05:45,495 Let's see if we can get lucky and get an ID 104 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:47,801 - with what we got there. - OK. 105 00:05:47,825 --> 00:05:51,239 Yeah, resolution is too low for facial rec on the driver. 106 00:05:51,263 --> 00:05:54,754 - What about the car? - Running the plates. 107 00:05:55,529 --> 00:05:56,941 - Stolen. - Yeah? OK. 108 00:05:56,965 --> 00:05:58,551 NYPD, look into the stolen vehicle. 109 00:05:58,575 --> 00:05:59,837 - Here's something. - Hmm? 110 00:05:59,862 --> 00:06:01,989 That Nissan passed a plate reader 15 minutes ago... 111 00:06:02,013 --> 00:06:03,058 Yeah? 112 00:06:03,083 --> 00:06:04,949 Entering Caleb Smith State Park. 113 00:06:04,973 --> 00:06:06,907 Get a team there now. 114 00:06:10,195 --> 00:06:12,043 That's the vehicle. 115 00:06:12,067 --> 00:06:13,784 Clear. 116 00:06:13,808 --> 00:06:14,872 Pop the trunk. 117 00:06:20,292 --> 00:06:22,488 Jubal, we found the sedan. 118 00:06:22,512 --> 00:06:25,230 There's blood in the trunk, and Troy Palmer's hat. 119 00:06:27,865 --> 00:06:29,461 Guys. 120 00:06:29,485 --> 00:06:31,584 Looks like we got a set of boot prints. 121 00:06:34,045 --> 00:06:36,807 Well, our suspect could have gone anywhere. 122 00:06:36,831 --> 00:06:39,549 All right. What do you want to do, Maggie? 123 00:06:43,054 --> 00:06:45,293 We're going in. 124 00:06:45,317 --> 00:06:48,253 Let's split up. Stay on your comms. 125 00:06:48,277 --> 00:06:49,935 Go dark. 126 00:07:11,605 --> 00:07:13,583 What's wrong? 127 00:07:14,303 --> 00:07:17,064 I just feel like I'm being watched here. 128 00:07:20,962 --> 00:07:22,548 Suspect is fleeing south on foot. 129 00:07:22,572 --> 00:07:24,420 I'll try to cut him off. 130 00:07:35,890 --> 00:07:37,566 FBI! 131 00:07:44,899 --> 00:07:48,226 Scola, Eva, I've got eyes on the mother. 132 00:07:48,250 --> 00:07:49,860 We're too late. 133 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:52,863 You see him? 134 00:07:53,298 --> 00:07:56,793 He's gotta be close by. We need to set up a cordon. 135 00:07:57,781 --> 00:08:00,922 I need a helo and a K-9. 136 00:08:03,221 --> 00:08:05,809 We have another body, young male. 137 00:08:10,272 --> 00:08:11,467 Hey. 138 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:12,990 So the best I can tell, 139 00:08:13,014 --> 00:08:15,253 your victims were killed in the last 24 hours. 140 00:08:15,277 --> 00:08:17,168 Ligature marks on their wrists and ankles 141 00:08:17,192 --> 00:08:18,952 suggest they were bound for several days. 142 00:08:18,976 --> 00:08:20,954 Bodies were washed with soap and bleach, 143 00:08:20,978 --> 00:08:22,377 so no trace DNA, 144 00:08:22,545 --> 00:08:24,480 and rape kits came back negative for both. 145 00:08:24,504 --> 00:08:25,872 It's not a lot to go on. 146 00:08:25,896 --> 00:08:27,570 Well, autopsies were more revealing. 147 00:08:27,594 --> 00:08:30,442 Both mother and son show signs of organ shrinkage 148 00:08:30,466 --> 00:08:32,402 pointing to starvation, plus 149 00:08:32,426 --> 00:08:34,160 darkening of the buccal membrane 150 00:08:34,185 --> 00:08:37,014 and poor skin turgor, classic signs of dehydration. 151 00:08:37,038 --> 00:08:38,929 So he abducted them and then starved them. 152 00:08:38,953 --> 00:08:40,420 To start with. 153 00:08:40,911 --> 00:08:44,717 You know, I can email you my report. 154 00:08:44,741 --> 00:08:46,502 - I'm already here. - Right. 155 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:50,430 I just figured with what happened to your sister. 156 00:08:50,921 --> 00:08:53,509 Thanks, Neil. Um, it's OK. 157 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:54,901 I'm good. 158 00:08:54,925 --> 00:08:56,903 Boy was killed quickly, slit throat. 159 00:08:56,927 --> 00:08:58,772 Mom, not so lucky. 160 00:08:59,451 --> 00:09:01,386 Cause of death, penetrating sharp-force 161 00:09:01,410 --> 00:09:03,344 injury to the chest. 162 00:09:03,368 --> 00:09:05,042 She was stabbed in the heart? 163 00:09:05,066 --> 00:09:07,218 At least 20 times. 164 00:09:07,242 --> 00:09:09,324 Violent and rageful. 165 00:09:10,027 --> 00:09:11,289 What do you know about the weapon? 166 00:09:11,333 --> 00:09:14,617 Wounds suggest a nonstandard profile and thickness. 167 00:09:14,641 --> 00:09:17,228 A specialty blade? Or combat, maybe? 168 00:09:17,252 --> 00:09:18,751 Edge geometry's multipurpose. 169 00:09:18,775 --> 00:09:19,926 I think we're looking more for... 170 00:09:19,950 --> 00:09:22,233 - A dive knife. - Right. 171 00:09:22,257 --> 00:09:24,409 Actually, how do you know that? 172 00:09:24,433 --> 00:09:27,258 For the same reason I know I need to get back to the beach. 173 00:09:27,741 --> 00:09:29,153 Thanks. 174 00:09:36,314 --> 00:09:38,118 No sign of our suspect since he slipped the cordon 175 00:09:38,142 --> 00:09:39,555 last night, but the cadaver dogs 176 00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:42,166 did hit on another pair of graves. 177 00:09:42,190 --> 00:09:47,040 Got adult female, adolescent male. 178 00:09:47,064 --> 00:09:49,477 You were right, Maggie. 179 00:09:49,501 --> 00:09:51,950 You want to tell me what's going on here? 180 00:09:58,162 --> 00:09:59,400 Yeah. 181 00:09:59,424 --> 00:10:01,664 There was a case back in 2002... 182 00:10:01,688 --> 00:10:03,840 a serial killer took 17 lives 183 00:10:03,864 --> 00:10:06,320 before the bureau caught the guy. 184 00:10:06,344 --> 00:10:08,845 The details match the Palmer murders. 185 00:10:08,869 --> 00:10:10,131 I mean, from the way they were tied up, 186 00:10:10,156 --> 00:10:12,936 they were starved, and even the weapon, a dive knife. 187 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,938 You think this is all connected? 188 00:10:14,962 --> 00:10:17,934 - I do. - Maggie. 189 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,378 - Give me a sec. - Yeah. 190 00:10:20,402 --> 00:10:23,187 Hey, Peter, thanks for coming. 191 00:10:25,102 --> 00:10:26,471 What's up? 192 00:10:26,495 --> 00:10:28,299 I don't really know how to say this. 193 00:10:28,323 --> 00:10:29,648 Just say it. 194 00:10:29,672 --> 00:10:32,259 The South Shore Ripper is back. 195 00:10:32,283 --> 00:10:35,436 Maggie, I caught the Ripper a long time ago, 196 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:36,960 and he's dead. 197 00:10:36,984 --> 00:10:38,580 Hey, guys. 198 00:10:39,813 --> 00:10:42,139 Dogs got another hit. 199 00:10:47,211 --> 00:10:50,364 Six new bodies including the Palmers. 200 00:10:50,388 --> 00:10:54,194 So if the Ripper is dead, how is he still killing? 201 00:11:00,423 --> 00:11:02,549 This is the face of pure evil. 202 00:11:02,573 --> 00:11:05,989 Howard James Metcalf, AKA the South Shore Ripper. 203 00:11:06,013 --> 00:11:09,035 24 years ago, he terrorized the city, 204 00:11:09,059 --> 00:11:12,691 abducting pairs of victims, always a mother and a son. 205 00:11:12,715 --> 00:11:15,302 He held them captive, bound them, 206 00:11:15,326 --> 00:11:18,001 and starved them until he eventually killed them. 207 00:11:18,025 --> 00:11:21,221 He had evaded capture for two years, 208 00:11:21,245 --> 00:11:24,260 killing 17 victims that we know of. 209 00:11:24,858 --> 00:11:27,314 One victim escaped. Abel Gaskin. 210 00:11:27,338 --> 00:11:29,012 Goes by Abel Shaw now. 211 00:11:29,036 --> 00:11:31,101 And Abel led us to Metcalf? 212 00:11:31,125 --> 00:11:34,452 No, but when he escaped, Metcalf got spooked. 213 00:11:34,476 --> 00:11:37,435 He set the home that he had been holding them in on fire, 214 00:11:37,459 --> 00:11:40,153 destroying any evidence we could have used against him. 215 00:11:40,177 --> 00:11:42,547 State police were able to track him down 216 00:11:42,571 --> 00:11:44,244 thanks to the BAU profile, 217 00:11:44,268 --> 00:11:48,771 but Metcalf hanged himself in his holding cell that same evening. 218 00:11:48,795 --> 00:11:50,057 So the case was never adjudicated, 219 00:11:50,133 --> 00:11:52,078 but the killings stopped after Metcalf's death. 220 00:11:52,102 --> 00:11:53,558 Has to be the guy. 221 00:11:53,582 --> 00:11:55,038 Well, Peter Olsen was the profiler, 222 00:11:55,062 --> 00:11:56,474 and he thought so, but now we have 223 00:11:56,498 --> 00:11:57,789 six new victims, same MO. 224 00:11:57,822 --> 00:11:59,695 All we know for certain is that there is 225 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:02,199 a killer out there that has to be stopped. 226 00:12:03,940 --> 00:12:05,701 State police found two graves, 227 00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:08,336 both the same... middle-aged woman and young boy. 228 00:12:08,361 --> 00:12:10,923 The most recent set was killed inside of a month. 229 00:12:10,947 --> 00:12:12,708 The oldest exhibited advanced decomp 230 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:15,951 with adipocere formation, so about five months. 231 00:12:15,975 --> 00:12:17,364 Can you tell us the cause of death? 232 00:12:17,388 --> 00:12:18,539 The same as the Palmers. 233 00:12:18,563 --> 00:12:20,106 Boys had their throats slit. 234 00:12:20,130 --> 00:12:23,351 Women were stabbed in the chest repeatedly. 235 00:12:25,266 --> 00:12:26,765 Can you give us a minute, please? 236 00:12:26,789 --> 00:12:28,138 Yeah. 237 00:12:30,053 --> 00:12:32,777 Come on, tell me you see it. 238 00:12:33,448 --> 00:12:35,687 The victims, the Palmers. 239 00:12:35,711 --> 00:12:37,297 Mothers and sons. 240 00:12:37,321 --> 00:12:39,038 Has to be a copycat. 241 00:12:39,062 --> 00:12:41,345 Valerie Palmer was stabbed in the heart so many times 242 00:12:41,369 --> 00:12:44,080 that Mosbach said he lost count. 243 00:12:44,502 --> 00:12:46,654 - That's overkill. - Mm-hmm. 244 00:12:46,678 --> 00:12:49,179 Peter, the FBI never went public with that detail, 245 00:12:49,203 --> 00:12:52,008 and the South Shore Ripper never made it to trial. 246 00:12:52,032 --> 00:12:54,184 Now, the only way somebody could recreate 247 00:12:54,208 --> 00:12:55,533 these killings is if it was the same... 248 00:12:55,557 --> 00:12:58,710 The Ripper hung himself in his cell. 249 00:12:58,734 --> 00:13:01,582 We arrested him. He punched his own ticket. 250 00:13:01,606 --> 00:13:03,410 I understand why you'd want to hold on to that. 251 00:13:03,434 --> 00:13:05,151 What is that supposed to mean? 252 00:13:05,175 --> 00:13:07,588 The only victim to get away from the Ripper 253 00:13:07,612 --> 00:13:09,242 said you got the wrong guy. 254 00:13:09,266 --> 00:13:11,505 The victim was a 12-year-old boy 255 00:13:11,529 --> 00:13:13,290 who had just seen his mother murdered. 256 00:13:13,314 --> 00:13:14,627 He was traumatized. 257 00:13:14,750 --> 00:13:16,815 I know, but what if he could have 258 00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:19,600 led us to a different suspect? 259 00:13:19,624 --> 00:13:21,211 Or an accomplice? 260 00:13:21,235 --> 00:13:25,041 My profile clearly said one killer, not two. 261 00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:27,217 Then how do you explain this? 262 00:13:27,241 --> 00:13:28,696 All these years later, 263 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,829 we've got new murders with the same MO. 264 00:13:30,853 --> 00:13:33,440 The Ripper was in it for the pain. 265 00:13:33,464 --> 00:13:36,052 Once his victims couldn't feel it anymore, 266 00:13:36,076 --> 00:13:37,705 he tossed the bodies into a dumpster. 267 00:13:37,729 --> 00:13:39,707 - They were trash to him. - Precisely. 268 00:13:39,731 --> 00:13:41,448 These new victims were buried. 269 00:13:41,472 --> 00:13:43,494 The MOs are not the same. 270 00:13:43,518 --> 00:13:46,476 It's been 24 years, Peter. 271 00:13:47,391 --> 00:13:49,152 The killer could have evolved. 272 00:13:51,308 --> 00:13:53,809 Maybe your theory needs to as well. 273 00:13:56,052 --> 00:13:58,465 We've been comparing the two cases. 274 00:13:58,489 --> 00:14:01,904 Back in 2002, the Ripper used a standard dive knife. 275 00:14:01,928 --> 00:14:04,036 And the new victims were killed with the same. 276 00:14:04,060 --> 00:14:05,777 Problem is, these knives are widely available. 277 00:14:05,801 --> 00:14:07,344 Right. What about the gravesite? 278 00:14:07,368 --> 00:14:08,998 ERT find anything usable there? 279 00:14:09,022 --> 00:14:11,565 Negative, but analysis of the trace fibers 280 00:14:11,589 --> 00:14:15,091 found embedded in the Palmers' wrists and ankles came in. 281 00:14:15,115 --> 00:14:17,789 It looks like the killer bound them with 282 00:14:17,813 --> 00:14:19,573 half-inch-diameter rope featuring 283 00:14:19,597 --> 00:14:21,967 a 12-strand, double-braid construction 284 00:14:21,991 --> 00:14:25,971 and a unique dye pattern that's consistent with marine rope. 285 00:14:25,995 --> 00:14:29,018 It's manufactured specifically by this small company 286 00:14:29,042 --> 00:14:30,802 in Ohio, TideTurner. 287 00:14:30,826 --> 00:14:32,760 It's only sold in three stores in the tristate area. 288 00:14:32,784 --> 00:14:35,241 All right, let's get a list over to Eva and Scola. 289 00:14:35,265 --> 00:14:37,026 I want a full report on anyone who has purchased 290 00:14:37,050 --> 00:14:38,375 that rope in the last year. 291 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:40,072 I don't want to be the one to say this, 292 00:14:40,096 --> 00:14:42,683 but if Peter Olsen got it wrong two decades ago... 293 00:14:42,707 --> 00:14:45,121 Well, then Maggie will get to the bottom of it. 294 00:14:45,145 --> 00:14:47,950 She and Peter are sitting with Abel Shaw now. 295 00:14:47,974 --> 00:14:50,126 Look, if this is the same killer, 296 00:14:50,150 --> 00:14:52,792 maybe the lone survivor can give us some insight. 297 00:14:53,980 --> 00:14:55,871 I was 12, 298 00:14:55,895 --> 00:15:00,049 and the Ripper held me and my mom in a basement, 299 00:15:00,073 --> 00:15:03,313 no food, just enough water 300 00:15:03,337 --> 00:15:07,970 to keep us alive for five days. 301 00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:14,628 Sorry, I try not to think about it anymore. 302 00:15:14,652 --> 00:15:16,108 Is this really necessary? 303 00:15:16,132 --> 00:15:18,023 I know that this is difficult. 304 00:15:18,047 --> 00:15:19,764 We would not be asking you if it wasn't important. 305 00:15:19,788 --> 00:15:21,897 It's OK. It's OK. 306 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,248 After the third day, 307 00:15:25,272 --> 00:15:27,410 he said that we had to choose 308 00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:31,863 who would live and who would die. 309 00:15:31,887 --> 00:15:33,875 My mother... 310 00:15:39,329 --> 00:15:42,091 Uh, she always protected me, 311 00:15:42,115 --> 00:15:45,616 and so she volunteered. 312 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,184 I know that this is cold comfort, 313 00:15:48,208 --> 00:15:52,188 but, uh, the Ripper found excitement 314 00:15:52,212 --> 00:15:53,929 breaking down his victims. 315 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:56,279 Choice was irrelevant. 316 00:15:56,303 --> 00:15:58,803 He was always going to kill you both. 317 00:15:58,827 --> 00:16:01,069 Then he grabbed the wrong woman, 318 00:16:01,438 --> 00:16:03,237 'cause when he... 319 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:08,998 started stabbing her... 320 00:16:12,188 --> 00:16:14,999 She fought back and 321 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,795 bought me time to run, 322 00:16:19,630 --> 00:16:21,255 to survive. 323 00:16:22,546 --> 00:16:27,788 After you escaped, you said that Metcalf 324 00:16:27,812 --> 00:16:30,052 wasn't the man that killed your mother. 325 00:16:30,076 --> 00:16:33,476 Now, that was 24 years ago. Do you still believe that now? 326 00:16:34,167 --> 00:16:36,014 Of course. Wait, why are you asking? 327 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,978 He's killing again, isn't he? 328 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:44,631 Someone is killing, yes, but... 329 00:16:44,655 --> 00:16:45,981 This is your fault. 330 00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:47,591 Abel said you had the wrong guy. 331 00:16:47,615 --> 00:16:49,506 The real killer's been running free this whole time 332 00:16:49,530 --> 00:16:50,681 because you wouldn't believe him? 333 00:16:50,705 --> 00:16:51,725 - Erica, it's OK. - No. 334 00:16:51,749 --> 00:16:53,814 No, none of this is OK. 335 00:16:53,838 --> 00:16:55,468 You know, Abel changed his name 336 00:16:55,492 --> 00:16:57,383 so the real killer couldn't track him down. 337 00:16:57,407 --> 00:16:59,472 He always could have contacted the bureau. 338 00:16:59,496 --> 00:17:00,762 We would have helped you. 339 00:17:00,786 --> 00:17:02,127 Oh, so you would have believed him then? 340 00:17:02,151 --> 00:17:03,694 Erica. 341 00:17:07,416 --> 00:17:09,419 I miss my mother every day. 342 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,486 Can you tell us anything 343 00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:15,425 about the man that you remember? 344 00:17:17,123 --> 00:17:18,752 I'm sorry. 345 00:17:18,776 --> 00:17:22,974 Even now, the feeling, 346 00:17:22,998 --> 00:17:26,847 it's clear as day, but my memory is fuzzy. 347 00:17:26,871 --> 00:17:28,588 It has been since I escaped. 348 00:17:28,612 --> 00:17:31,113 Wait, except the thing from EMDR. 349 00:17:31,137 --> 00:17:33,811 - Yeah. - It's a therapy used for PTSD. 350 00:17:33,835 --> 00:17:35,385 And it helped. 351 00:17:35,409 --> 00:17:40,122 It also unlocked something that I had repressed... a smell. 352 00:17:40,146 --> 00:17:43,386 We were starving, and he would cook every night. 353 00:17:43,410 --> 00:17:44,561 Fish. 354 00:17:44,585 --> 00:17:47,912 And that smell tormented us. 355 00:17:47,936 --> 00:17:49,020 It's probably nothing. 356 00:17:49,053 --> 00:17:50,871 Mm, anything you remember is helpful. 357 00:17:54,377 --> 00:17:56,703 So you still think Metcalf is the Ripper? 358 00:17:56,727 --> 00:18:00,229 The boy experienced a peritraumatic dissociation. 359 00:18:00,253 --> 00:18:02,535 It's a coping mechanism, nothing more. 360 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:04,059 OK, what about the new memory, 361 00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:06,191 the smell of the fish? I mean, you can't just ignore that. 362 00:18:07,387 --> 00:18:10,543 Maggie, I wrote the Ripper's profile. 363 00:18:10,567 --> 00:18:13,720 I knew who we were looking for. Metcalf checked every box. 364 00:18:15,224 --> 00:18:19,874 Peter, what if... 365 00:18:20,447 --> 00:18:22,335 look, hear me out. 366 00:18:23,189 --> 00:18:24,949 What if you have a blind spot? 367 00:18:24,973 --> 00:18:27,343 OK, what if your ego caused you 368 00:18:27,367 --> 00:18:29,736 to jump the gun 24 years ago and... 369 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,129 Mm-hmm. 370 00:18:31,153 --> 00:18:33,262 Now it's impairing your judgment? 371 00:18:33,286 --> 00:18:36,265 And what if you just want me to have erred 372 00:18:36,289 --> 00:18:38,851 so you can fix a failure of your own? 373 00:18:39,466 --> 00:18:40,641 Wow. 374 00:18:40,989 --> 00:18:42,358 - No, all I'm saying... - Wow. You know what? 375 00:18:42,382 --> 00:18:44,015 This has nothing to do with my sister. 376 00:18:44,039 --> 00:18:47,406 All I'm saying is we've all got blind spots, Maggie. 377 00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:50,670 At BAU, we analyze hundreds of data points, 378 00:18:50,694 --> 00:18:52,933 from the crime scene to victimology, 379 00:18:52,957 --> 00:18:56,850 to gain insight on the offender based on their behavior. 380 00:18:56,874 --> 00:18:59,810 Behavior. I know what BAU does. 381 00:18:59,834 --> 00:19:02,073 I also know that profiling is not a hard science. 382 00:19:02,097 --> 00:19:05,120 Well, it's a proven skill, fortified by statistics. 383 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:06,512 OK. 384 00:19:06,536 --> 00:19:07,992 Then look me in the eye right now 385 00:19:08,016 --> 00:19:09,820 and tell me there is no statistical chance 386 00:19:09,844 --> 00:19:11,648 that you made a mistake. 387 00:19:17,417 --> 00:19:21,484 - You're just gonna leave? - No, I am going to my car. 388 00:19:21,508 --> 00:19:23,660 I brought my case notes, and we can go over 389 00:19:23,684 --> 00:19:26,607 all the old suspects again. 390 00:19:32,649 --> 00:19:34,105 You Jack? 391 00:19:34,129 --> 00:19:35,454 Jack moved to Boca. 392 00:19:35,478 --> 00:19:37,630 It's my shop now. 393 00:19:37,654 --> 00:19:39,676 - Can I help you? - Yeah. 394 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:43,288 FBI, Special Agents Ramos and Scola. 395 00:19:43,312 --> 00:19:45,421 Yeah, I made you as Feds the second you stepped in. 396 00:19:45,445 --> 00:19:47,988 Oh, we were going for fishermen. 397 00:19:48,012 --> 00:19:49,642 Maybe you could help us out. 398 00:19:49,666 --> 00:19:52,645 We're canvassing some marine supply shops 399 00:19:52,669 --> 00:19:55,170 in the tristate area as part of an investigation, 400 00:19:55,194 --> 00:19:57,259 and your store popped up as one of the few 401 00:19:57,283 --> 00:19:59,826 that supplies TideTurner rope. 402 00:19:59,850 --> 00:20:01,243 Ah, don't remind me. 403 00:20:01,376 --> 00:20:03,482 Had to take it off the shelves, it was such a dud. 404 00:20:03,506 --> 00:20:04,831 You haven't sold any recently? 405 00:20:04,855 --> 00:20:06,224 No, sir. 406 00:20:06,248 --> 00:20:07,467 In fact, I used my leftover stock 407 00:20:07,492 --> 00:20:10,097 to dress some white-tailed deer I hunted last fall. 408 00:20:10,121 --> 00:20:12,012 TideTurner might be crap for boats, 409 00:20:12,036 --> 00:20:14,822 but it's great for stringing up a carcass. 410 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,018 Well, would you have records of any customers 411 00:20:18,042 --> 00:20:20,369 who might have purchased that brand of rope? 412 00:20:21,628 --> 00:20:23,198 I got five years of receipts downstairs in case 413 00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:25,124 the tax man comes calling. 414 00:20:25,702 --> 00:20:27,376 You're welcome to look. 415 00:20:28,009 --> 00:20:29,291 Sounds good. 416 00:20:33,623 --> 00:20:35,634 All right. Frederick Monk? 417 00:20:36,452 --> 00:20:39,221 Died in '09. Stroke. 418 00:20:40,151 --> 00:20:43,285 OK. Next, William Hoffman. 419 00:20:44,330 --> 00:20:47,526 Uh, incarcerated in 2014 for aggravated sexual assault 420 00:20:47,550 --> 00:20:49,354 - in Santa Cruz. - Where is he now? 421 00:20:49,378 --> 00:20:51,487 Died in prison last year. 422 00:20:51,511 --> 00:20:53,576 - Nope. - And he had an IQ of 70. 423 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,317 OK. 424 00:20:55,341 --> 00:20:58,741 All right, let's try Reggie Kramer with a K. 425 00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:01,932 Hold on. Kramer dated Mary Vandt? 426 00:21:01,956 --> 00:21:03,629 That's the Ripper's first victim. 427 00:21:03,653 --> 00:21:05,849 Please, just forget about Kramer. 428 00:21:05,873 --> 00:21:08,678 So he's still alive. Uh, lives in Massapequa. 429 00:21:08,702 --> 00:21:12,421 Says here that he found his own mother murdered when he was 15. 430 00:21:12,445 --> 00:21:13,900 OK, well, that's the same age as the boys 431 00:21:13,924 --> 00:21:15,186 the Ripper abducted and killed. 432 00:21:15,211 --> 00:21:18,688 The Ripper was organized, methodical, fastidious. 433 00:21:18,712 --> 00:21:22,518 When I interviewed Kramer in 2002, his house was a pigsty. 434 00:21:22,542 --> 00:21:24,563 - There's absolutely no way. - Wait. 435 00:21:24,587 --> 00:21:26,304 Hey, guys, there's more. 436 00:21:26,328 --> 00:21:28,088 Kramer owns one of the bait-and-tackle shops 437 00:21:28,112 --> 00:21:31,266 that Scola and Eva are canvassing. 438 00:21:32,887 --> 00:21:35,961 Sales receipts are in a couple of boxes back there. 439 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,151 You ever thought about tidying up down here a bit? 440 00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:50,241 Yeah, you could digitize, join the 21st century. 441 00:21:50,265 --> 00:21:51,851 Look. 442 00:21:58,273 --> 00:22:01,137 Maggie. Hello? 443 00:22:03,858 --> 00:22:05,879 Service down here is terrible. 444 00:22:06,150 --> 00:22:07,650 Better luck upstairs. 445 00:22:10,459 --> 00:22:12,113 Yeah, go ahead. 446 00:22:24,473 --> 00:22:25,668 Scola? 447 00:22:25,692 --> 00:22:27,234 Maggie, yeah, what's up? 448 00:22:27,258 --> 00:22:29,106 Hey, we're looking at the suspects 449 00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:31,151 of the old Ripper case, and one of the names stood out. 450 00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:37,256 Those boxes are just around the corner. 451 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,510 Yeah, keep going. Yeah. 452 00:22:45,059 --> 00:22:46,602 His name is Reggie Kramer. 453 00:22:46,626 --> 00:22:48,255 He owns one of the stores on your list. 454 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:50,214 Wait, Kramer? Kramer? 455 00:22:50,238 --> 00:22:51,532 We're... we're here now. 456 00:23:00,553 --> 00:23:02,618 You sharpen your own knives, Mr. Kramer? 457 00:23:02,642 --> 00:23:05,882 Yeah, just a little something I like to do to relax. 458 00:23:07,734 --> 00:23:09,872 You'd like to see my handiwork? 459 00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:15,631 Drop the knife. Now. 460 00:23:15,655 --> 00:23:18,416 Hey! Put the knife on the ground right now. 461 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,983 Slowly. 462 00:23:20,007 --> 00:23:21,593 Keep your hands where I can see them. 463 00:23:21,617 --> 00:23:24,248 OK, let's all take a deep breath. 464 00:23:24,272 --> 00:23:26,138 No one has to get hurt. 465 00:23:27,318 --> 00:23:29,296 Now turn around. 466 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,429 Hands behind your back. 467 00:23:40,462 --> 00:23:42,962 Now I can show you my handiwork. 468 00:23:55,515 --> 00:23:58,151 Five days ago, Valerie and Troy Palmer 469 00:23:58,175 --> 00:24:01,173 were abducted from a trailhead just outside of the city. 470 00:24:02,092 --> 00:24:03,354 If you say so. 471 00:24:03,678 --> 00:24:06,831 Suspect matches your height and your build. 472 00:24:06,856 --> 00:24:08,878 There's a lot of people on this planet. 473 00:24:08,903 --> 00:24:12,970 And where on this planet were you five days ago, Mr. Kramer? 474 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,604 Oh, you know, here and there. 475 00:24:15,628 --> 00:24:18,520 - OK. - I can't say for certain. 476 00:24:18,544 --> 00:24:20,783 Have you ever visited Caleb Smith State Park? 477 00:24:20,807 --> 00:24:22,243 Oh, many times. 478 00:24:24,724 --> 00:24:27,074 - You want to know a secret? - Sure. 479 00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:31,165 White Pools. 480 00:24:33,167 --> 00:24:36,431 Best fly fishing on the whole Nissequogue. 481 00:24:38,955 --> 00:24:41,325 - He's toying with them. - More like a test. 482 00:24:41,349 --> 00:24:44,763 Serial killers are motivated by domination, 483 00:24:44,787 --> 00:24:46,852 manipulation, and control. 484 00:24:46,876 --> 00:24:49,376 Right, control. He's cuffed to the table. 485 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,987 He could be hogtied to the floor. 486 00:24:51,011 --> 00:24:53,598 As far as he's concerned, he could still win the chess match. 487 00:24:53,622 --> 00:24:55,165 That is exactly what we want. 488 00:24:55,189 --> 00:24:57,167 Why is that? 489 00:24:57,191 --> 00:25:00,399 It's the only way Maggie can put him in checkmate. 490 00:25:01,804 --> 00:25:05,195 Your mother, Darlene, died when you were young, right? 491 00:25:06,809 --> 00:25:08,439 You're being obvious, Agent Bell. 492 00:25:08,463 --> 00:25:11,137 - How so? - She was murdered. 493 00:25:11,161 --> 00:25:12,661 You think there's a connection. 494 00:25:12,685 --> 00:25:14,184 Isn't there? 495 00:25:14,208 --> 00:25:16,165 You were 15 years old, 496 00:25:16,645 --> 00:25:18,362 and you were the one that found the body. 497 00:25:18,386 --> 00:25:22,838 She was in the kitchen, strangled with her apron. 498 00:25:23,565 --> 00:25:26,326 - Rick did it. - Yeah, your stepfather. 499 00:25:26,350 --> 00:25:28,802 At least that's what the police said. 500 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,418 You think the police got the wrong guy? 501 00:25:31,442 --> 00:25:33,270 Do you? 502 00:25:34,750 --> 00:25:36,602 Do you miss her? 503 00:25:37,492 --> 00:25:40,787 Well, she wasn't a very good mother. 504 00:25:42,410 --> 00:25:44,519 Well, then again, I wasn't a very good son. 505 00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:47,304 The thing I find interesting is you have not once 506 00:25:47,328 --> 00:25:49,219 asked why we brought you in. 507 00:25:49,243 --> 00:25:52,483 Well, I suppose I'm just waiting for you to show your hand. 508 00:25:52,507 --> 00:25:54,790 OK, here it is. 509 00:25:54,814 --> 00:25:57,662 Three pairs of bodies, all mothers and sons, 510 00:25:57,686 --> 00:26:01,971 all found in a remote wilderness wildlife refuge 511 00:26:01,995 --> 00:26:04,364 that you just admitted to visiting. 512 00:26:04,388 --> 00:26:08,760 And they were tied up with rope like the one from my shop. 513 00:26:08,784 --> 00:26:12,221 And stabbed to death with a dive knife like you own. 514 00:26:12,745 --> 00:26:17,029 Murdered in their prime, just like Mom. 515 00:26:17,053 --> 00:26:19,061 Right again, Reggie. 516 00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:24,428 Maybe they weren't good mothers or good sons. 517 00:26:24,452 --> 00:26:27,111 Are you the South Shore Ripper? 518 00:26:27,498 --> 00:26:29,238 What do you think? 519 00:26:30,364 --> 00:26:32,915 I just have one more question. 520 00:26:32,939 --> 00:26:34,438 Why these women? 521 00:26:36,943 --> 00:26:42,664 Women like that, yeah, they would never be with someone like me. 522 00:26:42,688 --> 00:26:46,130 Oh, they look at me, and they see a monster. 523 00:26:46,909 --> 00:26:49,845 Well, this monster gave them what they deserved. 524 00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:56,982 Start at the beginning. 525 00:27:03,143 --> 00:27:04,947 Whew. 526 00:27:04,971 --> 00:27:06,426 Great work. 527 00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:07,538 I'll let the Eastern District know 528 00:27:07,563 --> 00:27:09,081 - their life just got easier. - Don't bother. 529 00:27:09,105 --> 00:27:10,175 Kramer's not our killer. 530 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,388 He just wants us to think that he is. 531 00:27:11,412 --> 00:27:12,543 Hold on. 532 00:27:12,601 --> 00:27:14,434 Are telling me this guy just took the rap 533 00:27:14,458 --> 00:27:15,958 for six murders that he didn't commit? 534 00:27:15,982 --> 00:27:18,569 - Why would he do that? - To feel important. 535 00:27:18,593 --> 00:27:21,746 OK, all due respect to the BAU and its methods. 536 00:27:21,770 --> 00:27:24,140 We're gonna need more than that to throw out a confession. 537 00:27:24,164 --> 00:27:26,403 Kramer claimed that he was attracted to his victims. 538 00:27:26,427 --> 00:27:28,927 The rape kits came back on the Palmers negative, 539 00:27:28,951 --> 00:27:33,018 and nothing in the evidence supports psychosexual motive. 540 00:27:33,042 --> 00:27:36,587 I think that our killer is angry and grievance-driven. 541 00:27:36,611 --> 00:27:39,895 OK, fine. But I am holding Kramer. 542 00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:41,050 Let's keep running down leads. 543 00:27:41,144 --> 00:27:43,376 We've also got the park ranger, Clyde Bream. 544 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,422 I mean, given the timeline, he deserves another look. 545 00:27:45,732 --> 00:27:46,994 Bring him in. 546 00:27:55,879 --> 00:27:56,880 Peter. 547 00:27:59,025 --> 00:28:01,622 I don't want to keep dwelling in the past, 548 00:28:02,158 --> 00:28:05,921 so how do you feel about building a new profile 549 00:28:05,945 --> 00:28:08,140 with only the current cases? 550 00:28:08,164 --> 00:28:10,005 Sounds good to me. 551 00:28:11,341 --> 00:28:13,550 Good call on Kramer. 552 00:28:14,736 --> 00:28:17,323 All right, let's begin with victimology. 553 00:28:17,347 --> 00:28:20,283 We know that our current killer abducts mothers and sons. 554 00:28:20,307 --> 00:28:22,285 He's repetitive, ritualistic. 555 00:28:22,309 --> 00:28:23,939 All six victims are white. 556 00:28:23,963 --> 00:28:27,029 Since serial killers rarely kill across race, 557 00:28:27,053 --> 00:28:28,508 we can assume he's white too. 558 00:28:28,532 --> 00:28:30,728 The abductions are clustered near 559 00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:32,382 - the hiking trails in this park. - Mm. 560 00:28:32,406 --> 00:28:34,427 We know he lives in or around Long Island. 561 00:28:34,451 --> 00:28:35,766 OK. 562 00:28:35,790 --> 00:28:38,867 Crime scene analysis shows that he is organized, 563 00:28:38,891 --> 00:28:41,434 but not just cleaning and disposing of the bodies. 564 00:28:41,458 --> 00:28:44,133 He plans the abductions, the captivity. 565 00:28:44,157 --> 00:28:45,961 It shows patience and maturity. 566 00:28:45,985 --> 00:28:48,093 But he has to be able to dispose of the bodies, 567 00:28:48,117 --> 00:28:51,270 so we're probably looking for somebody who's younger than 50. 568 00:28:51,294 --> 00:28:53,838 Very good. The signature. 569 00:28:53,862 --> 00:28:56,378 All right, we know that he deprives his victims of food and light. 570 00:28:56,402 --> 00:28:58,974 And assuming that he's giving his new victims 571 00:28:58,998 --> 00:29:00,584 the same impossible choice, 572 00:29:00,608 --> 00:29:02,194 it underscores his need for power. 573 00:29:02,218 --> 00:29:03,587 Right, power that he carries through 574 00:29:03,611 --> 00:29:05,328 until he has an emotional release 575 00:29:05,352 --> 00:29:07,243 where he violently kills the mother. 576 00:29:07,267 --> 00:29:10,550 But then with the boy, it's more mechanical. 577 00:29:10,574 --> 00:29:12,509 It's quick. 578 00:29:12,533 --> 00:29:15,207 Peter, everything we've come up with 579 00:29:15,231 --> 00:29:18,123 just looks like your profile back in 2002. 580 00:29:18,147 --> 00:29:20,735 Well, I still can't get around the change 581 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:23,085 in the postmortem MO. 582 00:29:23,109 --> 00:29:25,730 Because he used to dump the bodies, but now he buries them? 583 00:29:25,754 --> 00:29:27,219 What were you saying before? 584 00:29:27,243 --> 00:29:29,656 Uh, he's evolving, he's... 585 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,484 Yeah, I think something's changed. 586 00:29:31,508 --> 00:29:34,487 - Mm. - Mm-hmm. 587 00:29:41,170 --> 00:29:43,453 It's right in front of us. 588 00:29:43,477 --> 00:29:45,958 - What? - Our killer is ritualistic 589 00:29:45,983 --> 00:29:48,980 because he needs to fill some psychological need, right? 590 00:29:49,004 --> 00:29:50,460 He's working through something. 591 00:29:50,484 --> 00:29:51,809 OK. 592 00:29:51,833 --> 00:29:54,072 He's hiding his self-loathing. 593 00:29:54,096 --> 00:29:56,118 Peter, you were right. 594 00:29:56,142 --> 00:29:59,034 The Ripper is not the killer, but he's not a copycat either. 595 00:29:59,058 --> 00:30:01,123 Our killer knows the intimate details 596 00:30:01,147 --> 00:30:04,953 of the Ripper's methods because he witnessed them firsthand. 597 00:30:04,977 --> 00:30:06,211 Oh, my God. 598 00:30:06,236 --> 00:30:07,912 Yeah, and if you saw your mother attacked, 599 00:30:07,936 --> 00:30:09,791 wouldn't you be ashamed? 600 00:30:20,737 --> 00:30:22,547 I don't get it. Why are you looking for my husband? 601 00:30:22,572 --> 00:30:24,634 We believe that Abel has picked up the mantle 602 00:30:24,658 --> 00:30:26,401 - for the South Shore Ripper. - What? 603 00:30:26,426 --> 00:30:29,005 By committing these murders, he's re-enacting his trauma. 604 00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:31,322 No, that is not possible. Abel would never do that. 605 00:30:31,346 --> 00:30:33,982 Erica, I know this is a lot to take in, 606 00:30:34,006 --> 00:30:38,247 but sometimes a killing follows a precipitating event. 607 00:30:38,271 --> 00:30:41,250 The first pair of murders happened about five months ago. 608 00:30:41,274 --> 00:30:43,600 So did anything happen to Abel around that time? 609 00:30:43,624 --> 00:30:46,037 Abel's been stressed, but... but everyone 610 00:30:46,061 --> 00:30:48,039 would be in our situation. 611 00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:49,301 What's your situation? 612 00:30:49,325 --> 00:30:50,694 I'm pregnant. 613 00:30:50,718 --> 00:30:53,392 The doctor said it was impossible, 614 00:30:53,416 --> 00:30:57,179 but then we were blessed with this miracle baby boy. 615 00:30:57,203 --> 00:30:59,268 How did Abel react to that news? 616 00:30:59,292 --> 00:31:01,139 He was nervous. 617 00:31:01,163 --> 00:31:03,228 He's been through so much. 618 00:31:03,252 --> 00:31:04,708 How far along are you? 619 00:31:04,732 --> 00:31:06,928 A little over five months. 620 00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:08,364 Five months. 621 00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:10,302 We've already been to your house. Abel isn't there. 622 00:31:10,327 --> 00:31:11,541 Do you know where he is right now? 623 00:31:11,565 --> 00:31:12,827 He went fishing. 624 00:31:12,852 --> 00:31:14,718 He stopped going years ago, but when he found out 625 00:31:14,742 --> 00:31:17,721 he was gonna be a dad, that's how he's been blowing off steam. 626 00:31:21,662 --> 00:31:23,466 He's using fishing as a pretext 627 00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:25,468 to abduct another family. 628 00:31:25,492 --> 00:31:26,754 All right, listen up. 629 00:31:26,779 --> 00:31:28,253 Maggie and Peter are convinced Abel Shaw has already 630 00:31:28,277 --> 00:31:29,595 abducted a new set of victims. 631 00:31:29,619 --> 00:31:31,387 Jubal, it looks like a mother and son 632 00:31:31,411 --> 00:31:32,954 from Southampton vanished yesterday. 633 00:31:32,978 --> 00:31:34,738 Audrey and Bryce Cahill. 634 00:31:34,762 --> 00:31:36,155 Kid's 12. Fits the bill. 635 00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:38,829 Car was found abandoned at Rogers Beach near Quogue. 636 00:31:38,853 --> 00:31:41,266 One tire slashed, phones found smashed down the road. 637 00:31:41,290 --> 00:31:43,051 OK, so this has gotta be our guy. 638 00:31:43,075 --> 00:31:45,488 Uh, we can't track the Cahills. Can we track Abel? 639 00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:47,403 Nothing on his phone location. 640 00:31:47,427 --> 00:31:49,274 All right, so we need to do this the old-fashioned way. 641 00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:51,407 Where could Abel have taken them? 642 00:31:51,431 --> 00:31:53,191 What do we know about him? Where does he eat? 643 00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:54,627 Where does he sleep? What does he do for a living? 644 00:31:54,651 --> 00:31:56,020 Uh, I can help with the last one. 645 00:31:56,044 --> 00:31:57,804 Abel manages a significant real estate 646 00:31:57,828 --> 00:32:00,416 portfolio, some commercial, mostly residential. 647 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,484 So he could be holding his victims 648 00:32:01,509 --> 00:32:03,332 at one of his properties. But which one? 649 00:32:03,356 --> 00:32:04,966 Well, I can cross-reference utilities 650 00:32:04,991 --> 00:32:06,988 against property tax records, see if any of them are vacant. 651 00:32:07,012 --> 00:32:08,337 - Yeah, do it. - I might have a shortcut. 652 00:32:08,361 --> 00:32:09,390 OK. 653 00:32:09,415 --> 00:32:11,658 In 2002, the Ripper held Abel and his mother captive 654 00:32:11,682 --> 00:32:13,951 in the basement of an abandoned home in East Meadow. 655 00:32:13,975 --> 00:32:16,654 That home was located on a corner at 1827 Lucille. 656 00:32:16,679 --> 00:32:17,691 OK. 657 00:32:17,716 --> 00:32:19,053 On the night that the Ripper was caught, 658 00:32:19,077 --> 00:32:20,677 he burned it to the ground. 659 00:32:20,727 --> 00:32:22,438 Years later, someone else bought the lot 660 00:32:22,462 --> 00:32:23,985 and built a new home on it. 661 00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:27,095 Only this time, the front door was facing the adjacent street. 662 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,271 Same exact property has a new address, 663 00:32:29,295 --> 00:32:31,664 - and guess who owns it now. - Abel Shaw? 664 00:32:31,688 --> 00:32:32,776 Yes, as Abel Gaskin. 665 00:32:32,801 --> 00:32:34,145 It's the only property still registered 666 00:32:34,169 --> 00:32:35,518 under his birth name. 667 00:32:35,543 --> 00:32:37,583 If Abel is trying to recreate the Ripper's crimes... 668 00:32:37,607 --> 00:32:39,672 It makes sense he would use the same kill box. 669 00:32:39,696 --> 00:32:41,485 Get Maggie on the line. 670 00:32:41,872 --> 00:32:43,807 So we found his kill box, so now what? 671 00:32:43,831 --> 00:32:46,244 - Are we gonna breach and arrest? - No, it's way too risky. 672 00:32:46,268 --> 00:32:48,420 Abel's capture phase lasts about five days. 673 00:32:48,444 --> 00:32:50,335 They could still be alive. Thank you. 674 00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:52,555 We're certainly not sitting around, though, either. 675 00:32:52,579 --> 00:32:54,644 No, the team did a trash cover 676 00:32:54,668 --> 00:32:57,516 and discovered that he uses a seafood delivery service. 677 00:32:57,540 --> 00:32:59,475 Right, so he cooks food to taunt his victims, 678 00:32:59,499 --> 00:33:01,520 - just like the original Ripper. - Yeah. 679 00:33:01,544 --> 00:33:03,479 They're making a delivery to the house in an hour. 680 00:33:03,503 --> 00:33:05,437 That's our in. 681 00:33:45,588 --> 00:33:47,425 That's him. Hit it. 682 00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:05,715 OK, go downstairs and check the basement. 683 00:34:05,739 --> 00:34:07,195 I got him. 684 00:34:11,136 --> 00:34:13,094 - Ready? - Yeah. 685 00:34:15,748 --> 00:34:18,032 Audrey? Bryce? 686 00:34:21,101 --> 00:34:23,037 We're too late. 687 00:34:26,542 --> 00:34:28,215 - Maggie. - Yeah? 688 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,695 No Cahills in the basement. 689 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,262 Where are they? 690 00:34:32,722 --> 00:34:34,347 Did you kill them? 691 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,267 Why would I do that? 692 00:34:37,813 --> 00:34:39,530 They haven't chosen yet. 693 00:34:47,574 --> 00:34:49,889 SWAT raided every property in Abel's portfolio. 694 00:34:49,913 --> 00:34:51,586 Still no sign of the Cahills. 695 00:34:51,610 --> 00:34:53,371 If they are still alive, he's gotta tell us 696 00:34:53,395 --> 00:34:55,329 - where he's moved them. - Well, that'll be tough. 697 00:34:55,353 --> 00:34:57,767 He's fixated on them completing the ritual. 698 00:34:57,791 --> 00:35:01,754 Abel's compulsions are motivated by his shame and remorse. 699 00:35:01,778 --> 00:35:03,338 So why don't we confront him? 700 00:35:03,362 --> 00:35:05,538 - Use that against him. - Do it. 701 00:35:09,498 --> 00:35:11,389 - You coming? - No. 702 00:35:11,413 --> 00:35:13,609 You saw Abel for who he really is. 703 00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,635 It's your case now. 704 00:35:21,075 --> 00:35:24,750 Guess what, Abel. You washed the bodies. 705 00:35:24,774 --> 00:35:27,840 You didn't clean the basement. ERT found prints and DNA. 706 00:35:27,864 --> 00:35:29,842 We're gonna tie you to all six murders, 707 00:35:29,866 --> 00:35:33,368 and the only way that you can help yourself at this point 708 00:35:33,392 --> 00:35:36,960 is by telling me where you're hiding Audrey and Bryce Cahill. 709 00:35:40,086 --> 00:35:43,132 It's over. You can't hurt them anymore. 710 00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:47,382 I've been studying your patterns, Abel. 711 00:35:47,406 --> 00:35:49,471 All you're doing is repeating what happened to you 712 00:35:49,495 --> 00:35:51,299 when you let your mother die. 713 00:35:51,323 --> 00:35:54,761 Well, except you did wash the bodies, 714 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,566 then you laid them to rest. 715 00:35:57,590 --> 00:35:59,933 You know what that tells me? 716 00:36:01,463 --> 00:36:04,020 It tells me that you're ashamed, 717 00:36:04,549 --> 00:36:06,551 that you're remorseful. 718 00:36:10,516 --> 00:36:12,885 You don't know what you're talking about. 719 00:36:16,304 --> 00:36:19,849 You still have a chance to save Audrey and Bryce 720 00:36:19,873 --> 00:36:21,997 and redeem yourself. 721 00:36:22,354 --> 00:36:26,638 Be the hero that you wanted to be all those years ago. 722 00:36:30,275 --> 00:36:32,090 Tell me where they are. 723 00:36:38,587 --> 00:36:40,826 Not until they choose. 724 00:36:42,591 --> 00:36:44,395 I thought he was supposed to be remorseful. 725 00:36:44,419 --> 00:36:46,789 I'm no longer sure abandoning his mother 726 00:36:46,813 --> 00:36:48,162 is the root of his shame. 727 00:36:48,187 --> 00:36:51,079 How are we supposed to know what the root is? 728 00:36:51,426 --> 00:36:55,145 Well, Maggie will have to reprofile him on the fly. 729 00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:57,147 It is over. 730 00:36:57,171 --> 00:37:00,977 - No, it isn't. - Well, how do you figure? 731 00:37:01,001 --> 00:37:04,328 I mean, short of putting the knife in Bryce's hand yourself. 732 00:37:14,057 --> 00:37:17,254 There was a second choice that day. 733 00:37:17,278 --> 00:37:19,169 The Ripper put the knife in your hand 734 00:37:19,193 --> 00:37:20,736 and gave you the choice... 735 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,391 you kill your mother, or he's gonna kill you both. 736 00:37:26,505 --> 00:37:28,265 None of the other kids could pull it off. 737 00:37:28,289 --> 00:37:31,024 They couldn't go through with it, but you were different. 738 00:37:32,511 --> 00:37:37,187 You made the choice to kill your own mother. 739 00:37:39,431 --> 00:37:41,626 That's why Metcalf let you go, 740 00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:43,759 because he saw you for who you really are. 741 00:37:43,783 --> 00:37:46,457 - You're a killer, just like him. - Don't. 742 00:37:46,481 --> 00:37:48,111 And you didn't want to identify him, 743 00:37:48,135 --> 00:37:49,721 because you didn't want everyone else 744 00:37:49,745 --> 00:37:52,855 - to know your shame. - Shut up. Shut up, OK? 745 00:37:52,879 --> 00:37:54,813 I mean, when he died you must have thought 746 00:37:54,837 --> 00:37:56,815 this was all done, right? 747 00:37:56,839 --> 00:37:58,382 You could just put it all behind you? 748 00:38:00,756 --> 00:38:03,213 Till your wife got pregnant. 749 00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:07,602 That wasn't supposed to happen. 750 00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:09,785 So when she comes to tell you 751 00:38:09,809 --> 00:38:13,179 that she's gonna have this miracle baby, 752 00:38:13,203 --> 00:38:18,184 a baby boy, you panicked. 753 00:38:18,208 --> 00:38:19,969 I panicked. 754 00:38:19,993 --> 00:38:22,363 I mean, why wouldn't you? 755 00:38:22,387 --> 00:38:27,411 What if this precious baby is like you? 756 00:38:27,435 --> 00:38:29,979 - Broken? - I'm not broken. 757 00:38:30,003 --> 00:38:31,676 You have made all of these people 758 00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:33,983 live your exact nightmare for one thing alone. 759 00:38:34,007 --> 00:38:35,332 You wanted to find one other person 760 00:38:35,356 --> 00:38:36,899 who made the same choice as you, 761 00:38:36,923 --> 00:38:38,683 so that you wouldn't feel alone. 762 00:38:41,188 --> 00:38:43,340 I can free them. 763 00:38:43,364 --> 00:38:47,083 I can free them from the lies 764 00:38:47,107 --> 00:38:49,390 that they tell themselves about who they really are. 765 00:38:49,414 --> 00:38:51,566 No. Nobody else has made that choice, 766 00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:53,350 and nobody's going to. Not even Bryce. 767 00:38:53,374 --> 00:38:55,400 You don't know that. 768 00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:57,354 - I know. - No. 769 00:38:57,378 --> 00:38:58,747 Yes. And you know what? 770 00:38:58,771 --> 00:39:00,444 I think deep down, you know that too. 771 00:39:00,468 --> 00:39:02,240 You weren't there. 772 00:39:02,818 --> 00:39:05,580 You didn't see the look on that kid's face 773 00:39:05,604 --> 00:39:07,912 when I gave him the knife. 774 00:39:08,650 --> 00:39:10,715 He's gonna do it. 775 00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:13,042 He swore he would do it. 776 00:39:13,438 --> 00:39:15,712 I bet he already has. 777 00:39:16,876 --> 00:39:19,550 You don't tell us where they are, 778 00:39:19,574 --> 00:39:22,640 how are you ever gonna know for sure? 779 00:39:35,938 --> 00:39:37,742 Checkmate. 780 00:39:43,903 --> 00:39:46,367 - Go around the sides. - Yep. 781 00:39:47,602 --> 00:39:48,753 It's locked, Scola. 782 00:39:51,563 --> 00:39:53,932 Pull it! 783 00:39:53,956 --> 00:39:56,045 Oh, my God. 784 00:39:57,830 --> 00:39:59,155 OK. 785 00:40:01,573 --> 00:40:03,812 Give me a hand. Bryce. 786 00:40:03,836 --> 00:40:06,336 Come on. Hey, wake up, Bryce. 787 00:40:10,625 --> 00:40:11,733 I've got a pulse. 788 00:40:11,757 --> 00:40:13,430 It's faint, but she's alive. 789 00:40:13,454 --> 00:40:16,477 Your mom's gonna be OK. So are you. 790 00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:19,828 I... I didn't do it. I couldn't. 791 00:40:48,663 --> 00:40:51,860 - Hey. - Hey. 792 00:40:51,884 --> 00:40:55,603 Look, uh, a couple of things I said back there... 793 00:40:55,627 --> 00:40:56,952 No, no. 794 00:40:56,976 --> 00:40:59,302 I'm the one who needs to apologize. 795 00:40:59,326 --> 00:41:01,739 Your original profile was spot-on, 796 00:41:01,763 --> 00:41:04,046 - and I shouldn't have pushed... - Oh, no, no, no, no, no. 797 00:41:04,070 --> 00:41:06,048 You were right in the end. 798 00:41:06,072 --> 00:41:07,702 I missed some things. 799 00:41:07,726 --> 00:41:11,643 You sensed them, and you never stopped questioning. 800 00:41:15,647 --> 00:41:18,495 You know, ever since Erin died, I've... 801 00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:20,466 I've been trying to separate 802 00:41:20,490 --> 00:41:22,934 what happened to her with what I do. 803 00:41:22,958 --> 00:41:24,591 Mm-hmm. 804 00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,260 I can't. 805 00:41:28,311 --> 00:41:30,115 I don't think I'll ever be able to. 806 00:41:30,139 --> 00:41:35,120 So I'm choosing to use it as an edge to save whoever I can. 807 00:41:36,885 --> 00:41:40,038 You once told me that you no longer recognize 808 00:41:40,062 --> 00:41:42,214 the world around you. 809 00:41:42,238 --> 00:41:47,076 But I think you see the world exactly for what it is, 810 00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:50,074 all the bad and all the good, 811 00:41:50,551 --> 00:41:53,835 and you just refuse to give up on it. 812 00:41:53,859 --> 00:41:57,503 And, uh, well... 813 00:41:58,733 --> 00:42:01,044 I'm lucky to know you, Maggie. 814 00:42:07,089 --> 00:42:08,327 Thank you. 815 00:42:08,351 --> 00:42:10,219 See you around.