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The unknown subject we're looking for

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is a male, most likely in his 20s,

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based on the two victims so far.

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But before we go any further,

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we need to be clear.

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Age is the most difficult
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He could be in his 40s.

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A very fit 40s.

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So our point is,

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the profile is a guide only.

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It's an investigative tool,

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and we need to stress that.

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All we have is a series of deductions,

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but one of those deductions

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is that the unsub knew
his victims personally.

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Which is why we're delivering
the profile to you,

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because you also knew the victims.

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So, our goal is not to
make you uncomfortable

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or suspicious. Normally we wouldn't

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even give the profile this early,

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but you are our best chance

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at discovering the identity of...

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Yes?

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I have a question for Agent Rossi.

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Go ahead.

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Why did your last book...

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Suck so bad?

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Uh... well, we're not
gonna talk about that now.

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Really? That's all I want to talk about.

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I mean, you even consider
that Tommy Yates was a patsy?

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Look, we get it, ok?

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You have no reason to trust us.

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We're the FBI, and you are
the official community

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of the Roswell, New Mexico, truthers.

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Thanks for not calling us
conspiracy theorists.

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Well, we know you don't like that term.

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While we don't agree with your
opinions, a lot of people do.

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Like how September 11th
was an inside job,

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or how vapor trails
from jets are poisonous,

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or how lizard people are
secretly running the government.

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Ah-ah-ah! Confirmation from the FBI.

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You all heard it.

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No, no, see that's
specifically not what I was...

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Ok. We need your help

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to stop a killer who
is hiding in this group.

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That's why we are having
this here in this Legion Hall

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and not at the police station.

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We don't want you to feel surveilled...

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What did you put in my pocket?!

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Gun! Drop it!

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Drop it!

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All right, everybody calm down.

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What's your name?

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I'm Emily.

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Emily Prentiss. It says right here.

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The reason I'm asking is so
we can have a conversation.

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Doug.

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I'm Doug.

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Great, Doug. Let's just take a second.

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Let's think through the logic of this.

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I... i didn't do any of this!

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We're not saying you did,

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but you are making
things worse with that gun.

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The reason we asked you here,

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the only reason,
is to listen. That's all.

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Ok? So just listen.

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Listen. Put the gun down.

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I know a false flag when I see one.

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- You bitch!
- No!

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synced and corrected by susinz
*www.addic7ed.com*

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"Once you eliminate the impossible,

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whatever remains,
no matter how improbable,

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must be the truth."

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Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

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Can I go home now?

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No. We're holding you and
your friends for 24 hours.

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You're all persons of interest

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in a murder investigation.

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Murder? What, Doug killed himself.

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True. But there are still two
other victims to account for.

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Now, normally when
there's a public suicide,

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it's because the suspect
is the serial killer

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and he's killed himself out of guilt.

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But we can't prove that yet,

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so, our investigation is still open.

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He said this whole thing
was a false flag,

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which means he thought
you were trying to frame him.

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I know what a false flag is.

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The FBI doesn't frame people.

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What, not anymore?

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You know, all of your
friends have lawyered up.

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Called us Nazis, or both.

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But you haven't.

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So?

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So that tells me you want to get

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to the bottom of this
just as much as we do.

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Do you know what a podcast is?

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I do.

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Well, I have one.

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So if we're actually gonna do this,

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you give me back my phone

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and I record our conversation

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for my podcast,
'cause I'm not talking to you

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without documenting everything.

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You want this on the record?

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Of course. I want this on the record.

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Otherwise I'm lawyering up
with all my friends.

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So what do you say?

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The answer's no.

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I think we should consider it.

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No. She will control the audio.

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She can twist your words,

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edit them to make the bureau look bad.

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We already look bad.

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The brass is gonna want to know

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how and why Doug killed
himself in front of us.

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Yeah, and that's my ass,

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but I'm not making this situation
worse than it already is.

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Garcia, have we confirmed
that this truther's even legit?

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Of course I've
confirmed that, and she is.

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Melissa Miller has a pretty
popular truther podcast,

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especially around Roswell.

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She promotes all kinds of conspiracies,

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but her cause celebre
is staged shootings.

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So she thinks the reason
we have gun violence,

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it's been faked by the government

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as a pretext to revoke the
second amendment. Nice.

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It's another reason not to do this.

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Or it's the exact reason to do this.

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What was tonight, other
than a staged shooting,

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and why is she the only
one willing to cooperate?

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Unsubs like to insert themselves

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into the investigation.

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Profile skews male,
but she could be a partner.

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Ok, then, if she isn't involved,

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I can get her to talk.

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I'm a forensic psychologist.

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I'm trained to outwit and outsmart

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clinical psychopaths far
more dangerous than her.

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But if we're wrong, she's
going to post her podcast.

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Then what? Then we're
the next example of fake news.

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Look, everybody, give us a second.

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You, too, Garcia.

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We don't just have egg on our face,

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we have blood on our hands.

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It's not like these conspiracy theorists

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are gonna be quiet.

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I am aware of that. I need options.

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We're out of them.

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The profile says it's a truther,

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and only one of them is talking to us.

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We have to throw a Hail Mary.

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Say something. We need to make sure

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the levels are good.

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I'm Dr. Tara Lewis of the BAU...

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No. Say something interesting.

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Tell me how you really
feel about truthers.

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My audience could use a sense

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of the FBI's bias against us.

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I got my Ph.D. by taking a theory,

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testing it, and then proving my results.

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Now, proving my results means
that I take those results

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and I turn them over to other scientists

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to see if they can replicate them.

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And if they can't,
then my theory was wrong.

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See, that's science.
A consensus of evidence

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that we call truth.

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What you do is different.

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Oh, no, it's not.

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Yes, it is. Because your
theories are unprovable.

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Give me one.

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Uh, President Obama wasn't born here.

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He was born in Kenya.

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Perfect. That's perfect.

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So, I show you his long-form
birth certificate,

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and then you would respond
that it's been faked

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because that's how deep
the conspiracy goes.

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And then that becomes your argument

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against any evidence that I provide.

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It's a cognitive trick that keeps you

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from having to admit that life is messy.

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It's random. Not everything fits

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the easy explanation
that a conspiracy gives you.

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All right, then. Well, let's
talk about the murders.

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When did you first hear about them?

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Yesterday. When we were invited in.

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It's time to get out our
tinfoil hats, my fine furry friends,

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because we are on our way
to Roswell, New Mexico,

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aka, ground zero of conspiracy theorists

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because of a certain alien
crash... i mean weather balloon.

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The sheriff there has had
two suspicious deaths

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over the last 48 hours.

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Both victims were members
of the truther movement.

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Yes, which is a group
of conspiracy theorists

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who share their out-there
beliefs online with each other.

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No judgment here. Let's look
at our first victim Bryan Behar.

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He believed that the fluoride
they put in our drinking water

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is a mind-control agent
meant to keep us docile.

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He died by drowning.

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People drown all the time, you say.

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I say not in their own aquariums.

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So the M.O. matches his conspiracy.

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Is that a coincidence or a choice?

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That depends on victim number two.

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Uh-huh. That's Carl Lee.

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He's a JFK conspiracy nut

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who was shot once in the throat.

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As anyone who saw
the Zapruder film knows,

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that's where the first
bullet struck Kennedy.

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Carl Lee we can definitively
classify as a homicide,

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but the drowning death... that
could have another explanation.

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That's why we'll be treating this

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as an equivocal death investigation.

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Wheels up in 20.

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Back up. What was that term you used?

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Equivocal something?

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An equivocal death investigation.

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It's an investigation
where we consider all options.

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It could be a murder,
but it could also be a suicide

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or an accident or even natural causes.

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Are you saying these
murders weren't murder?

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Is that the FBI's official position?

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I'm saying we let clues
guide us to a deduction.

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We don't jump to conclusions.

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But as we were flying here,

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our technical analyst
uncovered something unusual.

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Right. Your technical analyst.

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That would be Penelope Garcia?

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Yeah. I looked up your whole
team before coming in here.

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Why did you do that?

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Because I'm a naturally
suspicious person

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who wanted to get
a feel for your methods.

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Specifically the illegal
surveillance that the FBI

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is willing to resort to to
frame innocent men and women.

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As I said, the FBI doesn't frame anyone,

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and we certainly don't
do anything illegal.

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Well, I guess that depends
on what Garcia found

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and how she found it.

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So what did she find?

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It looks like our two victims

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were talking via encrypted texts.

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It took a while to break,

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and their conversation was short,

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but its content

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made my perfectly shaped
eyebrows go, "Hmm?"

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Carl says to Bryan, "I think I'm close

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to finding out who it is."

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to which Bryan says,

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"Maybe we should go to the police."

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and Carl says,
"What good would that do?"

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Well, that could be motive.
Whatever Carl was close to finding

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could have killed him and Bryan.

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At first glance, yeah.

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But we're talking about
conspiracy theorists here,

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and a lot of them suffer
from association fallacy.

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Let's say you thought Lyndon Johnson

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had JFK killed in order
to escalate the war in Vietnam.

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Ok, stop right there.

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What?

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You guys have a jet?

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Yes.

262
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A jet.

263
00:10:46,333 --> 00:10:47,367
Yes.

264
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Black helicopters

265
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surveilling the American people.

266
00:10:51,126 --> 00:10:52,704
No, no, that's ridiculous.

267
00:10:52,706 --> 00:10:54,804
But a little branch of the FBI

268
00:10:54,829 --> 00:10:56,812
has its own private jet.

269
00:10:57,077 --> 00:10:59,811
Ok, one, I never said the FBI doesn't

270
00:10:59,813 --> 00:11:01,212
have black helicopters.

271
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And, two, when people
are being murdered,

272
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we have to respond quickly.

273
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A jet.

274
00:11:07,446 --> 00:11:08,609
I can't even.

275
00:11:09,734 --> 00:11:11,523
Sorry. Where were we?

276
00:11:11,525 --> 00:11:13,458
Let's say you thought Lyndon Johnson

277
00:11:13,460 --> 00:11:16,640
had JFK killed in order to
escalate the war in Vietnam.

278
00:11:16,665 --> 00:11:18,830
That's ridiculous.
Everybody knows that...

279
00:11:18,832 --> 00:11:19,929
No, no.

280
00:11:20,066 --> 00:11:21,414
We're not getting into that again.

281
00:11:22,305 --> 00:11:23,492
Go ahead, Luke.

282
00:11:25,765 --> 00:11:28,439
Uh, my point is, that if you thought

283
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the government could do that,

284
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then you were likely believe that they'd

285
00:11:31,511 --> 00:11:33,211
brought down the towers on 9-11.

286
00:11:33,213 --> 00:11:34,913
Pretty soon you're down that rabbit hole

287
00:11:34,915 --> 00:11:37,148
and you see everything as a plot.

288
00:11:37,150 --> 00:11:38,883
So maybe these guys
weren't into anything.

289
00:11:38,885 --> 00:11:41,812
Maybe they just talked themselves
into a group delusion.

290
00:11:41,837 --> 00:11:43,953
Ok, we should investigate
that when we land.

291
00:11:43,978 --> 00:11:46,391
And since the police
are mentioned so prominently

292
00:11:46,393 --> 00:11:48,026
on the text, they might know

293
00:11:48,028 --> 00:11:49,427
what the victims were looking into.

294
00:11:49,578 --> 00:11:52,593
The Chicago mob, right? Killed JFK.

295
00:11:53,507 --> 00:11:54,632
He gets it.

296
00:11:54,657 --> 00:11:56,835
No. Don't get him started, Matt.

297
00:11:56,837 --> 00:11:59,031
Next, he'll be showing
you YouTube clips.

298
00:12:01,374 --> 00:12:03,041
So I'm sure when you flew in,

299
00:12:03,043 --> 00:12:04,876
they showed you Carl
and Bryan's police record.

300
00:12:04,878 --> 00:12:08,012
They did. And what we saw
were 4 years of reports

301
00:12:08,014 --> 00:12:10,181
that both men were convinced
someone was watching them.

302
00:12:10,183 --> 00:12:12,217
But despite his best efforts,
Sheriff Bowman

303
00:12:12,219 --> 00:12:14,118
was never able to find
any evidence of stalking.

304
00:12:14,429 --> 00:12:16,273
Oh, yeah. 'Cause he tried really hard.

305
00:12:16,298 --> 00:12:18,122
You know what was much more interesting

306
00:12:18,124 --> 00:12:20,421
was what we found when
we walked the crime scenes.

307
00:12:21,895 --> 00:12:24,863
The glass is 3/4 of an inch
thick and that's sturdy.

308
00:12:24,865 --> 00:12:26,998
If you wanted to drown
someone in an aquarium,

309
00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,437
that would do the trick.

310
00:12:28,515 --> 00:12:31,135
They said there was a bleach
solution in the water,

311
00:12:31,137 --> 00:12:32,370
so he was probably cleaning it

312
00:12:32,372 --> 00:12:33,554
and his ear buds were in.

313
00:12:33,579 --> 00:12:35,421
Make it easy to sneak up on Bryan.

314
00:12:36,042 --> 00:12:38,367
Unsub wouldn't have
had to work too hard.

315
00:12:40,335 --> 00:12:41,779
Bryan was startled.

316
00:12:42,031 --> 00:12:43,898
He took in water and bleach,

317
00:12:43,968 --> 00:12:46,562
and he was asphyxiated before
he knew what was happening.

318
00:12:47,214 --> 00:12:49,671
How did the unsub get in here?

319
00:12:49,984 --> 00:12:52,375
Hey, Matt, a question for you.

320
00:12:52,414 --> 00:12:54,359
Any evidence of a break-in
at your crime scene?

321
00:12:54,384 --> 00:12:55,914
Hang on, JJ. Let me check.

322
00:12:56,051 --> 00:12:57,450
Any signs of forced entry?

323
00:12:57,475 --> 00:12:58,515
No, sir.

324
00:12:58,816 --> 00:13:00,716
No, none here either.

325
00:13:00,797 --> 00:13:03,835
What I am seeing is an unsub
who covers up his tracks.

326
00:13:04,421 --> 00:13:07,710
It looks like he shot
Carl in the throat...

327
00:13:08,281 --> 00:13:09,859
Bullet was a through and through.

328
00:13:11,171 --> 00:13:12,677
Came out the other side of Carl's neck

329
00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:13,812
and went in the wall.

330
00:13:14,132 --> 00:13:16,014
Dug it out, picked up the casing,

331
00:13:16,179 --> 00:13:17,584
took the gun with him.

332
00:13:17,609 --> 00:13:19,584
So this guy knows how
to clean up after himself

333
00:13:19,586 --> 00:13:22,562
and how to get in and out
of two houses without detection.

334
00:13:25,444 --> 00:13:26,804
JJ, let me call you back.

335
00:13:35,107 --> 00:13:36,781
Looks like an RFID card.

336
00:13:37,023 --> 00:13:39,906
Mm-hmm. What's it go to?

337
00:13:40,707 --> 00:13:41,890
That's the question.

338
00:14:02,766 --> 00:14:05,566
Huh. Well, hello.

339
00:14:15,579 --> 00:14:16,856
Huh.

340
00:14:17,146 --> 00:14:18,560
That gun's missing.

341
00:14:18,655 --> 00:14:21,055
Well, it means the
unsub's no mastermind.

342
00:14:21,214 --> 00:14:23,661
It's been right under
our nose the whole time.

343
00:14:23,917 --> 00:14:26,484
So we went through Carl's meticulous log

344
00:14:26,486 --> 00:14:29,286
of his hardware, and the
missing gun should be here.

345
00:14:29,552 --> 00:14:31,289
It is a Bodyguard 380.

346
00:14:31,291 --> 00:14:34,450
Now, if the unsub found this
in a secret compartment,

347
00:14:34,481 --> 00:14:36,961
then he knows Carl, probably very well.

348
00:14:36,963 --> 00:14:39,669
And based on the fortress
that Carl lived in,

349
00:14:39,987 --> 00:14:41,720
it'd probably be another truther.

350
00:14:41,927 --> 00:14:43,474
No one else could get that close.

351
00:14:43,499 --> 00:14:45,157
And that would explain why there was

352
00:14:45,169 --> 00:14:46,838
no forced entry at Bryan's either.

353
00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,973
So when Carl said,
"I'm close to finding out

354
00:14:48,975 --> 00:14:51,175
who it is," he wasn't talking
about some secret cabal,

355
00:14:51,177 --> 00:14:52,458
he was talking about a friend.

356
00:14:52,483 --> 00:14:54,783
Someone he was
willing to call the cops on.

357
00:14:55,255 --> 00:14:57,513
We should bring all the
truthers in for questioning.

358
00:14:57,544 --> 00:14:59,317
No, no, that won't work.

359
00:14:59,319 --> 00:15:01,052
They won't cooperate under coercion.

360
00:15:01,054 --> 00:15:03,396
Look, I say we lay all our
cards out on the table.

361
00:15:03,421 --> 00:15:05,153
Let's deliver our profile to them.

362
00:15:05,178 --> 00:15:06,536
Oh, that's risky.

363
00:15:06,561 --> 00:15:08,292
But worth it. Either one of the truthers

364
00:15:08,294 --> 00:15:09,614
points us to the unsub...

365
00:15:10,030 --> 00:15:11,364
Or he shows up himself.

366
00:15:11,818 --> 00:15:13,755
And that brings us up to tonight.

367
00:15:14,021 --> 00:15:16,434
Ballistics confirmed
that the gun that killed Carl

368
00:15:16,436 --> 00:15:17,981
was the one that Doug used on himself.

369
00:15:18,006 --> 00:15:20,004
All the evidence points to Doug Downey

370
00:15:20,006 --> 00:15:21,747
as our killer, except...

371
00:15:21,772 --> 00:15:23,435
Except you don't
have anything tying Doug

372
00:15:23,460 --> 00:15:24,786
to Bryan's drowning.

373
00:15:25,494 --> 00:15:28,935
Melissa, I've been as transparent
as I can possibly be.

374
00:15:29,306 --> 00:15:31,083
Is there anything we've missed?

375
00:15:35,192 --> 00:15:36,231
One thing.

376
00:15:36,536 --> 00:15:37,716
But you didn't miss it,

377
00:15:37,741 --> 00:15:38,794
you covered it up.

378
00:15:40,396 --> 00:15:42,856
Specifically, that the sheriff

379
00:15:42,935 --> 00:15:45,427
made us all walk through
a metal detector.

380
00:15:45,940 --> 00:15:47,075
What?

381
00:15:47,337 --> 00:15:49,371
Don't pretend you didn't know that.

382
00:15:49,481 --> 00:15:51,069
And don't pretend you don't know why.

383
00:15:51,071 --> 00:15:52,703
Someone in law enforcement

384
00:15:52,705 --> 00:15:55,130
planted a gun on Doug.

385
00:15:55,975 --> 00:15:58,989
Because what was it that he
was saying earlier tonight?

386
00:16:00,783 --> 00:16:02,552
What did you put in my pocket?!

387
00:16:03,693 --> 00:16:04,786
Gun! Drop it!

388
00:16:06,309 --> 00:16:08,409
MeliSSA, that doesn't make any sense.

389
00:16:09,380 --> 00:16:10,825
You tell me what's more believable...

390
00:16:11,335 --> 00:16:14,136
A missing gun in a wacky compartment

391
00:16:14,333 --> 00:16:16,700
or the police planted

392
00:16:16,725 --> 00:16:19,130
a Bodyguard 380,

393
00:16:19,132 --> 00:16:22,396
a very popular firearm
in law enforcement, on Doug.

394
00:16:22,677 --> 00:16:25,837
Then, they call their friends
all the way in Quantico

395
00:16:25,839 --> 00:16:28,677
and you guys get on your fancy jet

396
00:16:29,409 --> 00:16:32,692
and come out here to make sure
that the cover-up's complete.

397
00:16:32,818 --> 00:16:34,247
That's not what happened.

398
00:16:36,130 --> 00:16:39,185
Am I your unsub? Yes or no?

399
00:16:40,216 --> 00:16:42,036
You are a person of interest,

400
00:16:42,061 --> 00:16:43,955
just like every other truther

401
00:16:43,957 --> 00:16:45,256
in this building tonight.

402
00:16:45,380 --> 00:16:46,388
That's a yes.

403
00:16:46,888 --> 00:16:48,860
Which is why I'm recording all of this,

404
00:16:48,981 --> 00:16:52,363
to show the world exactly how far

405
00:16:52,365 --> 00:16:53,794
the FBI is willing to go

406
00:16:53,819 --> 00:16:55,161
to cover up the truth.

407
00:16:56,102 --> 00:16:58,703
Ok. Let's take a moment.

408
00:16:58,705 --> 00:16:59,737
I think we've gotten off track.

409
00:16:59,739 --> 00:17:01,205
No, no. No, we're, uh,

410
00:17:01,207 --> 00:17:03,021
we're right where we need to be.

411
00:17:04,044 --> 00:17:08,112
See, I wanted the brilliant
science of behavioral profiling

412
00:17:08,114 --> 00:17:10,581
to provide an answer for all this.

413
00:17:10,583 --> 00:17:11,731
I really did.

414
00:17:12,614 --> 00:17:15,302
But right now, from where I'm sitting,

415
00:17:16,804 --> 00:17:19,521
this crazy conspiracy theorist

416
00:17:20,075 --> 00:17:23,513
is the only one making any sense.

417
00:17:26,287 --> 00:17:27,591
Guys, hold up.

418
00:17:28,341 --> 00:17:30,815
- Can we plug this in somewhere?
- Yes, ma'am.

419
00:17:31,091 --> 00:17:33,817
So this is the metal detector
you had at the legion hall?

420
00:17:33,842 --> 00:17:34,896
- Mm-hmm.
- And you made all

421
00:17:34,921 --> 00:17:36,528
- the truthers walk through it.
- Yep.

422
00:17:36,553 --> 00:17:38,171
And then after that you
brought it back here

423
00:17:38,196 --> 00:17:39,810
to the police stations, you
haven't touched it since?

424
00:17:39,834 --> 00:17:41,230
Sheriff, why didn't you tell us

425
00:17:41,255 --> 00:17:42,535
you were gonna do that?

426
00:17:42,537 --> 00:17:44,147
You told us you didn't
want to spook the truthers.

427
00:17:44,317 --> 00:17:46,472
You also told us
the killer might show up,

428
00:17:46,474 --> 00:17:48,247
so this was for our protection.

429
00:17:48,653 --> 00:17:50,216
Can you tell me I was wrong?

430
00:17:50,677 --> 00:17:52,245
No, sheriff, you weren't wrong,

431
00:17:52,247 --> 00:17:54,380
but it does beg the bigger question.

432
00:17:54,685 --> 00:17:56,747
How the hell did Doug get
a gun through that thing?

433
00:17:56,772 --> 00:17:58,317
I was hoping you could answer that,

434
00:17:58,497 --> 00:18:01,521
you all being the geniuses
with this investigation.

435
00:18:01,653 --> 00:18:03,083
No, that's not right.

436
00:18:03,411 --> 00:18:04,699
What do you mean it's not right?

437
00:18:04,724 --> 00:18:05,956
It says it right here.

438
00:18:05,981 --> 00:18:07,411
No, that's not what I saw.

439
00:18:07,629 --> 00:18:08,861
Did that just...

440
00:18:09,130 --> 00:18:11,849
Yeah. Yeah, it did.

441
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,286
What is it?

442
00:18:16,771 --> 00:18:18,653
How in the world could that happen?

443
00:18:20,653 --> 00:18:22,708
- I think I might know.
- Bullcrap.

444
00:18:22,844 --> 00:18:24,343
Bull crap.

445
00:18:24,606 --> 00:18:27,046
You know, I would use stronger language,

446
00:18:27,048 --> 00:18:28,214
but I don't want this podcast

447
00:18:28,216 --> 00:18:29,715
to get an "explicit" rating.

448
00:18:29,717 --> 00:18:31,044
Well, it's the truth.

449
00:18:31,474 --> 00:18:33,820
Metal detectors require
precise calibration.

450
00:18:33,822 --> 00:18:37,230
Otherwise, they're susceptible
to all kinds of interference.

451
00:18:37,255 --> 00:18:39,777
Photocopiers, Bluetooth,
even fluorescent lighting.

452
00:18:39,802 --> 00:18:41,969
The sheriff was in such a
hurry to get it set up

453
00:18:41,971 --> 00:18:44,137
down at the Legion Hall that he assumed

454
00:18:44,139 --> 00:18:45,747
it would work the same
way it always had,

455
00:18:45,772 --> 00:18:47,239
but it didn't.

456
00:18:48,044 --> 00:18:49,497
I still don't buy it.

457
00:18:50,544 --> 00:18:51,646
Do you know why?

458
00:18:52,106 --> 00:18:53,200
Why what?

459
00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:54,513
Why you don't buy it.

460
00:18:55,506 --> 00:18:56,661
I can tell you.

461
00:19:00,802 --> 00:19:03,123
It's called proportionality bias.

462
00:19:03,125 --> 00:19:05,192
You see, it's our natural human instinct

463
00:19:05,194 --> 00:19:08,388
to assume that big events
have big causes.

464
00:19:08,544 --> 00:19:10,197
We don't want to believe
that a lone gunman

465
00:19:10,199 --> 00:19:13,233
killed JFK with a rifle
he bought for 19.99,

466
00:19:13,235 --> 00:19:15,535
or that hijackers brought down 4 planes

467
00:19:15,537 --> 00:19:17,170
using only box cutters.

468
00:19:17,172 --> 00:19:19,072
I mean, there has to be
a better explanation.

469
00:19:19,074 --> 00:19:21,975
We need an answer
that's more satisfying,

470
00:19:21,977 --> 00:19:24,060
but sometimes it just isn't.

471
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,186
You know? Machines break down.

472
00:19:26,415 --> 00:19:29,364
Systems don't work. Life is messy.

473
00:19:30,088 --> 00:19:31,216
It's random.

474
00:19:31,505 --> 00:19:34,169
Fine. Let's just test
your version, shall we?

475
00:19:34,551 --> 00:19:35,599
Let's.

476
00:19:35,763 --> 00:19:38,859
You're saying that Doug snuck a gun

477
00:19:38,861 --> 00:19:40,627
through a metal detector,
a metal detector

478
00:19:40,629 --> 00:19:42,829
he would have no way
of knowing was broken.

479
00:19:42,831 --> 00:19:43,950
Is that your story?

480
00:19:43,975 --> 00:19:46,075
Well, why don't you
tell me a better one.

481
00:19:46,994 --> 00:19:48,169
Not my job.

482
00:19:48,685 --> 00:19:51,104
What my audience wants to hear, however,

483
00:19:51,106 --> 00:19:53,724
is how well your team does yours.

484
00:19:53,927 --> 00:19:56,743
All right, well, while
Agent Prentiss and I

485
00:19:56,745 --> 00:19:58,111
were figuring out the mystery

486
00:19:58,113 --> 00:20:00,314
of the malfunctioning metal detector,

487
00:20:00,316 --> 00:20:02,911
agents Jareau and Simmons
headed to the morgue.

488
00:20:03,118 --> 00:20:05,786
So let's presume Bryan Behar
here died of asphyxiation

489
00:20:05,788 --> 00:20:08,185
from drowning. What I
can't explain is this.

490
00:20:08,386 --> 00:20:10,638
These chemical burns on his face.

491
00:20:10,864 --> 00:20:12,699
Well, he was drowned
in a bleach solution.

492
00:20:12,724 --> 00:20:13,792
Would that do this?

493
00:20:13,817 --> 00:20:15,562
No. This looks like some form

494
00:20:15,564 --> 00:20:16,919
of aerosolized toxin,

495
00:20:17,199 --> 00:20:19,083
but damned if I could
tell you what kind.

496
00:20:19,157 --> 00:20:21,333
And that's still not the
oddest thing I've seen today.

497
00:20:21,837 --> 00:20:24,442
Mr. Carl Lee, shot in the throat,

498
00:20:24,864 --> 00:20:28,231
but covering his wound, this doozy.

499
00:20:29,348 --> 00:20:30,864
The blood matches Mr. Lee.

500
00:20:30,889 --> 00:20:33,480
Myoglobin on the blood says he
was alive when it happened,

501
00:20:33,482 --> 00:20:35,005
and only his prints are on it.

502
00:20:35,661 --> 00:20:38,153
Obviously it's from a book,
but I can't tell which one.

503
00:20:38,580 --> 00:20:39,622
We can.

504
00:20:39,955 --> 00:20:41,810
It's from "The Catcher in the Rye."

505
00:20:43,079 --> 00:20:44,138
Wow.

506
00:20:44,489 --> 00:20:46,083
Does that mean something to you?

507
00:20:48,166 --> 00:20:50,716
Of course that means something to me.

508
00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:52,632
"The Catcher in the Rye" has been linked

509
00:20:52,634 --> 00:20:54,517
to multiple killers
since it was first published.

510
00:20:54,736 --> 00:20:57,070
And when Mark David
Chapman shot John Lennon,

511
00:20:57,072 --> 00:20:59,447
he said, "read 'Catcher in the Rye.'

512
00:20:59,533 --> 00:21:00,767
that's my statement."

513
00:21:00,814 --> 00:21:02,431
it was found on
John Hinckley's bookshelf

514
00:21:02,456 --> 00:21:03,681
after he shot Reagan.

515
00:21:03,706 --> 00:21:06,740
Oswald, Manson, Robert Bardo,

516
00:21:06,765 --> 00:21:08,041
they were all obsessed with it.

517
00:21:08,066 --> 00:21:10,017
It was the original brainwashing tool

518
00:21:10,019 --> 00:21:11,361
of the United States Government.

519
00:21:11,386 --> 00:21:12,586
I wouldn't call it that.

520
00:21:12,588 --> 00:21:13,798
Of course you wouldn't.

521
00:21:13,823 --> 00:21:15,255
Because then you'd have to admit

522
00:21:15,257 --> 00:21:17,491
how sophisticated the whole-scale duping

523
00:21:17,493 --> 00:21:18,658
of this nation has become.

524
00:21:18,683 --> 00:21:19,682
I'm not following you.

525
00:21:19,707 --> 00:21:23,470
Aurora, Orlando, Sandy Hook.

526
00:21:24,041 --> 00:21:25,565
The United States Government

527
00:21:25,567 --> 00:21:27,567
shot up a bunch of empty buildings

528
00:21:27,569 --> 00:21:29,069
and then gathered everything up

529
00:21:29,071 --> 00:21:30,804
and traded it amongst themselves

530
00:21:30,806 --> 00:21:33,439
because that's how
plausible deniability works.

531
00:21:35,411 --> 00:21:37,033
Sandy Hook was staged?

532
00:21:37,447 --> 00:21:40,748
Sandy Hook was staged the worst.

533
00:21:40,884 --> 00:21:43,016
All those actors they
threw in front of cameras

534
00:21:43,018 --> 00:21:44,584
to be grieving parents.

535
00:21:44,586 --> 00:21:47,020
I was screaming at my television set,

536
00:21:47,022 --> 00:21:48,447
"You're lying!"

537
00:21:48,478 --> 00:21:50,345
and if they would lie about that,

538
00:21:50,392 --> 00:21:53,462
then they would absolutely
lie about a metal detector.

539
00:21:53,487 --> 00:21:56,853
So let me make one thing
clear moving forward.

540
00:21:57,311 --> 00:22:00,830
When I say they, I mean you.

541
00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:08,345
Give me one second.

542
00:22:29,484 --> 00:22:31,695
Son of a...

543
00:22:31,864 --> 00:22:34,515
What the hell kind of outfit
you running here, agent?

544
00:22:42,937 --> 00:22:44,296
You want to talk about it?

545
00:22:46,037 --> 00:22:47,148
No.

546
00:22:51,898 --> 00:22:53,679
It's ok to tap out if you want.

547
00:22:54,339 --> 00:22:57,840
No. Emily, I can do this.

548
00:22:58,093 --> 00:22:59,860
Has she said anything that points

549
00:22:59,862 --> 00:23:01,495
to her involvement in the murders?

550
00:23:01,497 --> 00:23:03,163
Have you gotten any answers out of her?

551
00:23:05,345 --> 00:23:07,687
Maybe it's time
to change up the strategy.

552
00:23:17,291 --> 00:23:18,515
Where's Dr. Lewis?

553
00:23:19,281 --> 00:23:21,648
I'm SSA Jareau. I'm here to talk to you

554
00:23:21,650 --> 00:23:24,151
about your favorite book,
"Catcher in the Rye."

555
00:23:25,031 --> 00:23:27,821
I get it. You're rotating agents now,

556
00:23:27,823 --> 00:23:29,589
wearing me down
so I can't see your lies.

557
00:23:29,591 --> 00:23:30,687
Is that the game?

558
00:23:30,859 --> 00:23:32,726
I just had some information

559
00:23:32,728 --> 00:23:34,961
Agent Lewis didn't,

560
00:23:34,963 --> 00:23:36,463
but if you don't want to hear it...

561
00:23:36,465 --> 00:23:37,851
Oh, no, I want to hear it.

562
00:23:44,866 --> 00:23:48,109
So after we found
such a prominent clue on Carl,

563
00:23:48,744 --> 00:23:51,144
we wanted to study the original text,

564
00:23:51,146 --> 00:23:52,570
so we got a copy of the book.

565
00:23:52,595 --> 00:23:54,714
Apparently, "Catcher in the Rye"

566
00:23:54,716 --> 00:23:57,640
is the local book club
selection this month.

567
00:23:57,749 --> 00:24:00,320
And did you know
that there are two actual...

568
00:24:00,322 --> 00:24:01,922
...Brick and mortar
bookstores in Roswell?

569
00:24:01,924 --> 00:24:03,690
But one of the owners
was happy to give me a copy.

570
00:24:03,692 --> 00:24:04,858
What page is it?

571
00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:06,546
Uh, 76. That's what was on Carl.

572
00:24:06,571 --> 00:24:09,406
Ok, here it is. It, uh,
it starts mid-sentence.

573
00:24:09,671 --> 00:24:12,232
"Don't see how he could
like a phony book like that

574
00:24:12,234 --> 00:24:14,226
and still like the one by Ring Lardner."

575
00:24:14,770 --> 00:24:16,515
No, that's not right.

576
00:24:16,695 --> 00:24:18,838
What do you mean, it's not right?
I have it right here.

577
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,940
That's not what I saw.

578
00:24:19,942 --> 00:24:21,890
Did that just...

579
00:24:21,915 --> 00:24:24,711
Yeah, see, this page 76 is different.

580
00:24:24,713 --> 00:24:26,479
The page on Carl's throat was annotated.

581
00:24:26,481 --> 00:24:29,179
The publisher bolded terms
and phrases for emphasis.

582
00:24:29,204 --> 00:24:31,452
Well, that would throw the
whole layout of the book off

583
00:24:31,477 --> 00:24:33,374
and then your page 76
wouldn't look like this one.

584
00:24:33,399 --> 00:24:36,234
Ok, there are two editions of the book.
That's common.

585
00:24:36,725 --> 00:24:39,234
But maybe it's not
the page that's important.

586
00:24:39,999 --> 00:24:41,288
Maybe it's the edition.

587
00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:44,197
The devil's in the
pitchforky little details,

588
00:24:44,199 --> 00:24:45,232
my friends.

589
00:24:45,234 --> 00:24:47,300
I matched the formatting

590
00:24:47,302 --> 00:24:50,136
of the text on poor doomed Carl

591
00:24:50,138 --> 00:24:51,738
to a local publisher.

592
00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:54,040
He goes by the name of Bob Orci.

593
00:24:54,042 --> 00:24:56,476
He writes conspiracy-related commentary

594
00:24:56,712 --> 00:24:59,779
for books like "Behold a Pale Horse,"

595
00:24:59,781 --> 00:25:01,514
"Protocols of the Elders of Zion,"

596
00:25:01,516 --> 00:25:02,716
"Mein Kampf."

597
00:25:02,718 --> 00:25:04,050
books the truthers love.

598
00:25:04,052 --> 00:25:06,219
Right now we need as much
evidence as possible

599
00:25:06,221 --> 00:25:07,654
to prove that Doug is our unsub.

600
00:25:07,656 --> 00:25:09,923
If he bought the book we found on Carl,

601
00:25:09,925 --> 00:25:11,249
it strengthens our case.

602
00:25:11,274 --> 00:25:13,107
Luke, you and Matt,
bring in this publisher.

603
00:25:13,132 --> 00:25:15,062
I'm on it. Garcia, can you
help me out with an address?

604
00:25:15,087 --> 00:25:18,064
Yeah, I'm working on the physical
address of Mr. Orci as we speak.

605
00:25:18,066 --> 00:25:19,666
The thing is, he lives so far out there

606
00:25:19,668 --> 00:25:21,468
that it's not a place
where there are street numbers

607
00:25:21,470 --> 00:25:23,003
on the houses, so the closest single

608
00:25:23,005 --> 00:25:24,404
physical address I can get you is...

609
00:25:24,406 --> 00:25:25,505
Route 3, Greenwood Way?

610
00:25:25,507 --> 00:25:26,531
You know him?

611
00:25:26,556 --> 00:25:28,275
By reputation. He's not a truther.

612
00:25:28,277 --> 00:25:29,351
He's an anarchist. He's dangerous.

613
00:25:29,376 --> 00:25:30,484
How dangerous?

614
00:25:30,609 --> 00:25:32,968
He has fertilizer lining
his place as an explosive.

615
00:25:33,215 --> 00:25:34,202
Prentiss!

616
00:25:34,804 --> 00:25:37,343
Wait. That far out in the desert,
there's no cell service.

617
00:25:37,368 --> 00:25:39,140
You're not gonna reach them by phone.

618
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,387
Is that ANFO, Matt?

619
00:25:53,928 --> 00:25:54,966
Yeah.

620
00:26:09,623 --> 00:26:10,902
FBI!

621
00:26:11,807 --> 00:26:13,005
Oh, my God.

622
00:26:20,755 --> 00:26:22,114
What's going on? Who are you?

623
00:26:22,848 --> 00:26:25,644
I'm SSA Emily Prentiss of the BAU.

624
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:27,559
Melissa, you're gonna
want to take a seat.

625
00:26:27,973 --> 00:26:30,160
Oh, God, someone died, didn't they?

626
00:26:30,583 --> 00:26:31,697
What makes you say that?

627
00:26:32,614 --> 00:26:35,128
You guys have had me
waiting in here for hours

628
00:26:35,153 --> 00:26:37,269
while your team tracked down Bob Orci.
What happened?

629
00:26:37,598 --> 00:26:39,672
Are you recording this? You should.

630
00:26:42,591 --> 00:26:44,378
Agents Simmons and Alvez

631
00:26:44,403 --> 00:26:46,817
landed at Bob Orci's at 3:37 A.M.

632
00:26:47,036 --> 00:26:49,106
The were very surprised
by what they found.

633
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,919
FBI!

634
00:26:52,012 --> 00:26:53,098
Oh, my God.

635
00:26:53,317 --> 00:26:56,161
Hey, guys, meet Bob Orci.
Weapons down, please.

636
00:26:56,294 --> 00:26:57,245
You were saying...

637
00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:59,411
Wait. So you got there before them.

638
00:26:59,825 --> 00:27:01,637
- How?
- By helicopter.

639
00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:03,909
Not the Bureau's helicopter.

640
00:27:03,934 --> 00:27:05,552
This one belongs to the police force.

641
00:27:05,653 --> 00:27:06,559
What?

642
00:27:06,802 --> 00:27:08,200
There's been a push.

643
00:27:08,434 --> 00:27:10,425
Police forces across the country

644
00:27:10,450 --> 00:27:13,052
have been purchasing
military-grade hardware.

645
00:27:13,497 --> 00:27:15,552
Yeah. Like grenade launchers and tanks.

646
00:27:15,577 --> 00:27:17,223
Roswell doesn't need a tank.

647
00:27:17,248 --> 00:27:19,583
It needs a helicopter. People
get lost in the desert.

648
00:27:19,661 --> 00:27:21,989
Sometimes an FBI agent like me

649
00:27:22,014 --> 00:27:23,755
needs to get to a cabin
in the middle of nowhere

650
00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:24,817
as fast as possible.

651
00:27:24,869 --> 00:27:27,036
Based on your warning, the sheriff and I

652
00:27:27,061 --> 00:27:29,145
landed a mile away
and we came up with a plan.

653
00:27:35,481 --> 00:27:37,387
FBI! Hands up, now!

654
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:39,177
Now!

655
00:27:39,202 --> 00:27:41,239
Wh-what?! What is...

656
00:27:41,264 --> 00:27:42,419
Hands on your head.

657
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:44,255
Get on your knees.

658
00:27:44,677 --> 00:27:46,544
Where's the fertilizer, Bob?

659
00:27:46,569 --> 00:27:48,636
The fertili... Uh, it's...

660
00:27:48,715 --> 00:27:50,403
It's under the tarp over there.

661
00:27:50,458 --> 00:27:51,942
- Check it out.
- Yes, sir.

662
00:27:52,042 --> 00:27:53,059
Uh...

663
00:27:53,820 --> 00:27:56,654
No, that's, uh, my...
my organic tomatoes

664
00:27:56,656 --> 00:27:58,841
need special soil, and... and...

665
00:27:59,161 --> 00:28:01,258
Th-that's my vitamin supplements

666
00:28:01,260 --> 00:28:02,708
are in those barrels.

667
00:28:03,552 --> 00:28:04,795
No, wait, wait, wait, wait.

668
00:28:04,797 --> 00:28:06,774
No, please. Please.

669
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,033
I... i swear to you,
I will surrender everything.

670
00:28:09,035 --> 00:28:10,700
Just please don't kill me.

671
00:28:11,037 --> 00:28:12,770
Organic tomatoes.

672
00:28:12,772 --> 00:28:13,856
Yeah.

673
00:28:14,427 --> 00:28:15,806
ANFO stands for

674
00:28:15,808 --> 00:28:18,309
ammonium nitrate fuel oil. Fuel oil.

675
00:28:18,311 --> 00:28:19,844
You can't grow anything with it.

676
00:28:19,846 --> 00:28:21,278
We pointed that out to Bob.

677
00:28:21,458 --> 00:28:24,302
He said that must be why
his tomatoes kept dying.

678
00:28:24,755 --> 00:28:26,951
We searched the whole compound anyway.

679
00:28:26,953 --> 00:28:28,085
There was no bomb.

680
00:28:28,087 --> 00:28:29,567
But Bob Orci

681
00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:31,419
had quite the story to tell.

682
00:28:31,444 --> 00:28:33,978
It's all an act. I'm no hermit.

683
00:28:34,489 --> 00:28:37,828
Yeah, I... I tell these truthers

684
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:39,864
that I'm some kind of holy fool

685
00:28:39,866 --> 00:28:41,286
and they buy all my stuff.

686
00:28:41,702 --> 00:28:43,902
By "stuff," you mean your books?

687
00:28:44,387 --> 00:28:47,071
No, the books are a loss-leader.

688
00:28:47,073 --> 00:28:49,306
But the vitamin supplements, oh,

689
00:28:49,308 --> 00:28:52,009
oh, my God, I've made so much money

690
00:28:52,011 --> 00:28:53,611
off the vitamin supplements.

691
00:28:53,613 --> 00:28:55,946
So, "Catcher in the Rye""
is just the latest

692
00:28:55,948 --> 00:28:57,770
in a long line of crap.

693
00:28:57,795 --> 00:28:59,427
Well, the book itself isn't.

694
00:28:59,652 --> 00:29:01,652
And J.D. Salinger is a genius.

695
00:29:01,654 --> 00:29:03,621
Didn't your read my commentary,

696
00:29:03,623 --> 00:29:06,123
read my notes, annotations?

697
00:29:06,125 --> 00:29:08,159
I tried. You lost me

698
00:29:08,161 --> 00:29:09,560
when you tried to connect

699
00:29:09,562 --> 00:29:11,629
Holden Caulfield to
the Bilderberg Group.

700
00:29:11,631 --> 00:29:12,874
There is no connection.

701
00:29:13,052 --> 00:29:15,927
All you gotta do to fool these morons

702
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,436
is to ask a question that starts with,

703
00:29:18,438 --> 00:29:19,904
"Isn't it interesting?"

704
00:29:19,906 --> 00:29:22,706
like... like...
Like, isn't it interesting

705
00:29:22,708 --> 00:29:26,377
that Holden Caulfield
and Bilderberg Group

706
00:29:26,379 --> 00:29:28,946
both have 15 letters.

707
00:29:28,948 --> 00:29:30,614
Yeah. And then you tag that

708
00:29:30,616 --> 00:29:32,850
with "Wow! Wake up, sheeple,"

709
00:29:32,852 --> 00:29:34,652
you just sold a thousand copies.

710
00:29:34,654 --> 00:29:36,220
We think the killer might have bought

711
00:29:36,222 --> 00:29:37,825
one of your commentaries.

712
00:29:38,419 --> 00:29:40,291
Who'd you sell to in Roswell?

713
00:29:40,293 --> 00:29:41,892
The book group is reading

714
00:29:41,894 --> 00:29:43,627
"Catcher in the Rye"" next month,

715
00:29:43,629 --> 00:29:46,091
so all I was trying to do
is capitalize on that.

716
00:29:46,458 --> 00:29:49,166
And only one guy seemed
to show any interest.

717
00:29:49,168 --> 00:29:51,356
FBI!

718
00:29:52,038 --> 00:29:53,028
Oh, my God.

719
00:29:53,278 --> 00:29:55,339
Hey, guys, meet Bob Orci.

720
00:29:55,341 --> 00:29:57,552
Weapons down, please. You were saying...

721
00:29:58,794 --> 00:29:59,848
Carl Lee.

722
00:30:00,833 --> 00:30:03,028
The guy's name was Carl Lee.

723
00:30:03,194 --> 00:30:05,177
So it was Carl's copy.

724
00:30:05,751 --> 00:30:07,251
Doug didn't bring it with him?

725
00:30:07,253 --> 00:30:09,723
Why would Doug put page
76 over Carl's throat?

726
00:30:09,748 --> 00:30:10,847
He didn't.

727
00:30:11,122 --> 00:30:13,624
Only Carl's fingerprints and DNA

728
00:30:13,626 --> 00:30:15,981
were on that page.
Doug never touched it.

729
00:30:16,841 --> 00:30:17,950
You've lost me.

730
00:30:18,341 --> 00:30:19,630
Ever been shot before?

731
00:30:20,098 --> 00:30:22,099
People do weird things
when they're shot.

732
00:30:24,937 --> 00:30:27,473
Carl was slipping into shock,

733
00:30:27,887 --> 00:30:30,875
meaning he had some vague
awareness that he was gonna die

734
00:30:30,877 --> 00:30:32,943
and his brain was short-circuiting.

735
00:30:32,945 --> 00:30:35,446
So that clue that seemed
so important 4 hours ago,

736
00:30:35,448 --> 00:30:36,809
it means nothing.

737
00:30:37,236 --> 00:30:39,255
Life is messy, random.

738
00:30:39,552 --> 00:30:40,918
That's why I sent Agent Jareau

739
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,481
back to the first crime scene.

740
00:30:42,506 --> 00:30:44,088
We needed to take a look at it again

741
00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:45,598
without any preconceptions.

742
00:30:45,858 --> 00:30:48,025
And when she saw the cleaning supplies,

743
00:30:48,027 --> 00:30:49,106
she had an idea.

744
00:30:49,481 --> 00:30:52,863
Specifically, what happens
when you're not careful

745
00:30:52,865 --> 00:30:54,466
how you clean your aquarium?

746
00:30:55,075 --> 00:30:56,973
So she had Garcia do some research.

747
00:30:57,236 --> 00:30:58,936
So let's talk about weird science.

748
00:30:58,938 --> 00:31:00,304
There are certain types of coral

749
00:31:00,306 --> 00:31:02,773
that when they come
into contact with bleach,

750
00:31:02,775 --> 00:31:05,142
release something called a palytoxin.

751
00:31:05,144 --> 00:31:08,612
So the coral, it, like,
emits this aerosol

752
00:31:08,614 --> 00:31:10,414
and then that aerosol causes the throat

753
00:31:10,416 --> 00:31:12,559
and the lungs to close and
the eyes and the skin to burn.

754
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:14,852
Well, that's the mystery chemical weapon

755
00:31:14,854 --> 00:31:16,130
the M.E. couldn't place.

756
00:31:16,387 --> 00:31:17,661
So let's play this out.

757
00:31:18,064 --> 00:31:19,496
He pours in the bleach,

758
00:31:20,075 --> 00:31:21,856
coral spits out its toxin,

759
00:31:22,622 --> 00:31:24,895
and mother nature does the rest.

760
00:31:33,239 --> 00:31:34,575
It's not murder.

761
00:31:36,005 --> 00:31:37,130
It's an accident.

762
00:31:39,011 --> 00:31:41,011
We're veering dangerously close

763
00:31:41,013 --> 00:31:42,255
to bullcrap territory.

764
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,020
We could call it murder.

765
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,750
If the profile was Charles Darwin's

766
00:31:46,752 --> 00:31:48,185
theory of natural selection,

767
00:31:48,187 --> 00:31:50,054
we could arrest
the piece of coral, I guess.

768
00:31:50,056 --> 00:31:53,390
Or, we could just accept that life is...

769
00:31:53,392 --> 00:31:55,091
Messy, random. Yeah.

770
00:31:56,586 --> 00:31:57,919
Until it's not.

771
00:31:58,809 --> 00:31:59,863
What does that mean?

772
00:31:59,865 --> 00:32:01,997
Well, that seemingly unimportant book,

773
00:32:02,401 --> 00:32:06,103
there was one additional
detail Bob Orci told us about

774
00:32:06,105 --> 00:32:07,481
that I forgot to mention.

775
00:32:07,864 --> 00:32:10,380
No, I... I didn't forget.

776
00:32:10,876 --> 00:32:12,872
I was holding back for dramatic effect.

777
00:32:13,145 --> 00:32:16,780
Carl Lee. His name was Carl Lee.

778
00:32:16,782 --> 00:32:19,216
And the reason that sticks out

779
00:32:19,218 --> 00:32:21,952
is because he asked me
to write a dedication

780
00:32:21,954 --> 00:32:23,487
on the inside cover of the book.

781
00:32:23,489 --> 00:32:25,761
It's something I add
for an extra 20 bucks.

782
00:32:25,786 --> 00:32:28,292
You know? And sometimes
I use the wild man font

783
00:32:28,294 --> 00:32:29,994
and the truthers all go,

784
00:32:29,996 --> 00:32:32,963
"Oh, wow, look, he actually
wrote stuff in my book."

785
00:32:32,965 --> 00:32:34,481
Tara, we have something.

786
00:32:41,833 --> 00:32:42,872
Found it, Emily.

787
00:32:42,897 --> 00:32:43,934
What does it say?

788
00:32:44,262 --> 00:32:48,677
"To my darling Melissa,
love always, Carl."

789
00:32:49,567 --> 00:32:51,482
We were dating. That's not a crime.

790
00:32:51,484 --> 00:32:52,660
So why hide it?

791
00:32:52,809 --> 00:32:54,661
The truther community is small,

792
00:32:54,778 --> 00:32:56,044
and we're gossipy.

793
00:32:56,069 --> 00:32:57,521
Also, we're already convinced

794
00:32:57,523 --> 00:32:59,023
agents like you are watching us.

795
00:32:59,025 --> 00:33:01,158
So Carl and I covered our tracks.

796
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,260
So well, in fact, that the
great and powerful Garcia

797
00:33:03,262 --> 00:33:04,728
is not going to find them.

798
00:33:04,730 --> 00:33:05,809
I believe you.

799
00:33:05,887 --> 00:33:07,698
Which is why we had to rely

800
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:09,366
on old-fashioned profiling

801
00:33:09,368 --> 00:33:10,934
to figure out this next part.

802
00:33:10,936 --> 00:33:13,958
And it started with a
question you asked first.

803
00:33:13,983 --> 00:33:16,653
Why would Doug kill
himself for no reason?

804
00:33:17,251 --> 00:33:21,278
So, we reconstructed Doug's
suicide to see what we missed.

805
00:33:22,192 --> 00:33:24,552
- So you were there and I was here.
- Right.

806
00:33:24,577 --> 00:33:26,517
And then he was screaming at you,

807
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:28,919
"I know a false flag
when I see one, bitch."

808
00:33:28,921 --> 00:33:30,122
and then bang.

809
00:33:30,161 --> 00:33:31,839
No, that's not right.

810
00:33:31,864 --> 00:33:33,524
He said all those things, but not to me.

811
00:33:33,526 --> 00:33:34,716
He was looking at you.

812
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,695
No, no. If someone
made eye contact with me

813
00:33:37,697 --> 00:33:39,442
and called me a bitch, I'd remember.

814
00:33:39,467 --> 00:33:40,831
Maybe he wasn't looking
at either of you.

815
00:33:40,833 --> 00:33:42,302
He was looking between you.

816
00:33:42,497 --> 00:33:45,436
Uh... JJ, you were posted up over there

817
00:33:45,438 --> 00:33:46,802
- for line of sight.
- Yeah.

818
00:33:46,827 --> 00:33:48,539
Ok, there's only one one other woman

819
00:33:48,541 --> 00:33:50,255
in the room he would
have been talking to.

820
00:33:51,023 --> 00:33:52,790
The reason we asked you here,

821
00:33:53,012 --> 00:33:55,364
the only reason, is to listen.

822
00:33:55,609 --> 00:33:56,608
That's all.

823
00:33:57,005 --> 00:33:58,982
So just listen.

824
00:33:59,098 --> 00:34:01,630
Listen. Put the gun down.

825
00:34:02,192 --> 00:34:03,927
I know a false flag when I see one.

826
00:34:04,223 --> 00:34:06,106
You bitch!

827
00:34:06,131 --> 00:34:07,591
It all started with Carl's text.

828
00:34:07,616 --> 00:34:09,442
"I'm close to finding out who it is."

829
00:34:09,575 --> 00:34:11,091
He was talking about Melissa,

830
00:34:11,130 --> 00:34:13,364
as in, "I'm close to finding
out who she's cheating with."

831
00:34:13,366 --> 00:34:15,265
she was cheating with Doug?

832
00:34:15,267 --> 00:34:16,700
Yes. And when she found out

833
00:34:16,702 --> 00:34:18,323
Carl was onto her, she killed him.

834
00:34:18,348 --> 00:34:20,070
Whoa. Slow down there, partner.

835
00:34:20,072 --> 00:34:22,339
Think about it. It's the oldest
motivation in the book...

836
00:34:22,364 --> 00:34:25,442
Sex. Melissa is cunning
and manipulative,

837
00:34:25,444 --> 00:34:28,230
and she is a psychopath, and a good one.

838
00:34:28,255 --> 00:34:30,881
I mean, she sat there while I
laid out this entire case,

839
00:34:30,883 --> 00:34:32,483
she did not tip a thing.

840
00:34:32,485 --> 00:34:34,251
Now, Doug's prints were on the
gun because of the suicide,

841
00:34:34,276 --> 00:34:36,958
but with Carl, Melissa could
have used gloves, and...

842
00:34:40,395 --> 00:34:41,442
What?

843
00:34:41,942 --> 00:34:43,434
Why is everybody staring at me?

844
00:34:43,997 --> 00:34:46,330
Tara, I want to believe that.

845
00:34:46,426 --> 00:34:50,100
An arrest would relieve a lot of tension

846
00:34:50,102 --> 00:34:52,102
on this case, but...

847
00:34:52,104 --> 00:34:53,670
But we don't have the evidence,

848
00:34:53,672 --> 00:34:56,044
and without the evidence, we're
no better than the truthers.

849
00:34:57,324 --> 00:34:58,919
No better than the truthers.

850
00:35:02,739 --> 00:35:03,903
Melissa...

851
00:35:06,130 --> 00:35:08,544
Thinks that Sandy Hook was staged.

852
00:35:11,395 --> 00:35:12,731
I was there...

853
00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:17,227
That day, and I counseled those parents,

854
00:35:17,229 --> 00:35:18,419
and I saw...

855
00:35:21,145 --> 00:35:22,489
I saw those kids.

856
00:35:23,122 --> 00:35:25,895
So the day that I lose
to someone like her...

857
00:35:28,481 --> 00:35:29,903
That's the day that I quit.

858
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,762
It's biased thinking,

859
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,447
and if we allow it to color our profile

860
00:35:36,449 --> 00:35:38,786
and the arrest falls apart,

861
00:35:39,005 --> 00:35:40,880
we'll be a stain on the Bureau.

862
00:35:41,817 --> 00:35:46,270
Ok, so what, we just...
We just back off on Melissa?

863
00:35:46,969 --> 00:35:49,544
No. We back up our profile.

864
00:35:50,020 --> 00:35:52,669
You have a theory, Tara.
Now prove your results.

865
00:35:53,724 --> 00:35:56,692
Now, once we're inside Melissa's
house, what are we looking for?

866
00:35:57,137 --> 00:35:59,903
Well, maybe she cleaned up
Carl Lee's crime scene.

867
00:35:59,905 --> 00:36:02,673
The gun's accounted for, but the
missing bullet and casing aren't.

868
00:36:02,675 --> 00:36:04,676
Great start. What else?

869
00:36:05,333 --> 00:36:08,122
I admit my bias, out loud,

870
00:36:08,755 --> 00:36:10,247
because I wasn't able to see

871
00:36:10,249 --> 00:36:12,516
what was right in front
of me the whole time.

872
00:36:13,169 --> 00:36:15,919
I thought anyone who believed
in conspiracy theories

873
00:36:15,921 --> 00:36:19,372
had to be deluded. There was
no way they could outsmart me.

874
00:36:19,668 --> 00:36:23,606
And I was wrong. There is a
conspiracy in this case.

875
00:36:24,432 --> 00:36:26,512
And you are at the center of it.

876
00:36:27,967 --> 00:36:33,567
So, allow me to be clear
from this point forward.

877
00:36:34,106 --> 00:36:36,550
I'm going to give you one
chance to tell the truth,

878
00:36:36,825 --> 00:36:40,210
one. Keep in mind we are
already searching your place.

879
00:36:40,434 --> 00:36:43,919
If you lie, if you hold back in any way,

880
00:36:44,169 --> 00:36:45,315
I will know about it,

881
00:36:46,005 --> 00:36:47,801
and I will nail you for it,

882
00:36:48,287 --> 00:36:50,731
all the way to a life sentence.

883
00:36:51,623 --> 00:36:52,809
Wow.

884
00:36:59,322 --> 00:37:00,723
What's the point of this?

885
00:37:02,895 --> 00:37:04,701
I guess there's just
one last thing to say

886
00:37:04,703 --> 00:37:07,075
before I invoke my right to an attorney.

887
00:37:10,596 --> 00:37:11,794
Good luck.

888
00:37:19,583 --> 00:37:21,880
- Anything?
- Melissa's house was spotless.

889
00:37:21,905 --> 00:37:23,161
Zero evidence of her involvement.

890
00:37:23,186 --> 00:37:24,575
How are you guys doing?

891
00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:25,966
Yikes.

892
00:37:25,991 --> 00:37:28,380
Yeah, every time
we try to reason it out,

893
00:37:28,405 --> 00:37:29,942
we keep hitting different walls.

894
00:37:29,958 --> 00:37:31,191
We have to make an arrest

895
00:37:31,193 --> 00:37:33,093
or release all the truthers
from custody.

896
00:37:33,095 --> 00:37:34,928
Give me the version
that makes the most sense.

897
00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:36,763
Ok, well, Doug was holding
the gun that killed Carl,

898
00:37:36,765 --> 00:37:38,765
but there is nothing behaviorally

899
00:37:38,767 --> 00:37:40,091
that points to him being a killer.

900
00:37:40,116 --> 00:37:42,348
And Melissa's the
undiagnosed psychopath,

901
00:37:42,395 --> 00:37:44,644
and Carl was figuring out
that she was cheating.

902
00:37:44,669 --> 00:37:47,340
And as his girlfriend, she would
know where he hid his guns,

903
00:37:47,342 --> 00:37:49,776
and so we... We're thinking this.

904
00:37:49,778 --> 00:37:51,711
Carl and Melissa were fighting.

905
00:37:51,713 --> 00:37:54,014
Psychopaths aren't known
for their small egos

906
00:37:54,016 --> 00:37:56,316
or impulse control,
and so Melissa got angry

907
00:37:56,318 --> 00:37:58,385
and she waits for Carl to turn his back,

908
00:37:58,387 --> 00:38:00,220
- Carl!
- And then bang.

909
00:38:03,434 --> 00:38:05,325
So she cleans up as best as she could,

910
00:38:05,327 --> 00:38:07,286
but now she has to hide what she did.

911
00:38:15,505 --> 00:38:18,305
So we asked the truthers
to listen to our profile,

912
00:38:18,307 --> 00:38:21,274
and she thought, "A-ha!
I'll turn this to my advantage.

913
00:38:21,276 --> 00:38:24,077
"I'll frame my boyfriend,
who is the most likely suspect

914
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:25,378
if they put this together."

915
00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:27,047
so she slips the gun into Doug's pocket.

916
00:38:27,049 --> 00:38:29,349
And Doug walks through without incident

917
00:38:29,351 --> 00:38:31,434
because the metal detector is broken.

918
00:38:31,473 --> 00:38:33,620
He doesn't notice the gun in his pocket

919
00:38:33,622 --> 00:38:35,801
until midway through
our profiling and he panics.

920
00:38:35,848 --> 00:38:37,536
What did you put in my pocket?!

921
00:38:38,661 --> 00:38:40,226
Gun! Drop it!

922
00:38:40,228 --> 00:38:41,795
He assumes, like all truthers,

923
00:38:41,797 --> 00:38:43,330
that no one in the government
is gonna believe him,

924
00:38:43,332 --> 00:38:44,964
so his last words aren't to us,

925
00:38:44,966 --> 00:38:46,132
but to Melissa.

926
00:38:46,262 --> 00:38:48,301
I know a false flag when I see one.

927
00:38:49,424 --> 00:38:51,317
You bitch!

928
00:38:52,622 --> 00:38:55,067
That's the version
that makes the most sense.

929
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:57,294
Even if I buy it, a D.A. won't.

930
00:38:57,319 --> 00:38:58,731
We need more, guys.

931
00:38:58,981 --> 00:39:00,246
Well, the only thing that's left

932
00:39:00,248 --> 00:39:01,614
is the bullet and the casing.

933
00:39:01,616 --> 00:39:03,051
But she could have dumped that anywhere.

934
00:39:03,076 --> 00:39:05,042
No, that's not the only thing.
The podcast.

935
00:39:05,067 --> 00:39:07,034
She... she had us right
where she wanted.

936
00:39:07,059 --> 00:39:08,955
She could have posted the
audio of our conversation

937
00:39:08,957 --> 00:39:11,291
to prove we were
trying to cover this up,

938
00:39:11,293 --> 00:39:12,989
but instead she deleted it.

939
00:39:13,216 --> 00:39:14,461
Which she only would have done

940
00:39:14,463 --> 00:39:16,129
if she had revealed herself somehow.

941
00:39:16,131 --> 00:39:17,497
She didn't say anything incriminating

942
00:39:17,499 --> 00:39:18,598
when I talked to her.

943
00:39:18,809 --> 00:39:19,872
Me neither.

944
00:39:20,505 --> 00:39:22,268
Then it was me. She let something slip,

945
00:39:22,270 --> 00:39:23,958
something she doesn't
want me to remember.

946
00:39:23,983 --> 00:39:25,512
So, what?

947
00:39:27,142 --> 00:39:30,844
Aurora, Orlando, Sandy Hook.

948
00:39:30,846 --> 00:39:32,345
The United States Government

949
00:39:32,347 --> 00:39:34,447
shot up a bunch of empty buildings

950
00:39:34,449 --> 00:39:35,982
and then gathered everything up

951
00:39:35,984 --> 00:39:37,650
and traded it amongst themselves,

952
00:39:37,652 --> 00:39:40,348
because that's how
plausible deniability works.

953
00:39:42,031 --> 00:39:43,097
She traded it.

954
00:39:43,481 --> 00:39:44,424
Traded what?

955
00:39:44,426 --> 00:39:46,025
The bullet and the shell casing.

956
00:39:46,027 --> 00:39:47,676
She took the evidence and she
gave it to someone else.

957
00:39:47,701 --> 00:39:49,329
And you know this because...

958
00:39:49,331 --> 00:39:51,598
Think about a conspiracy
theory like a pathology.

959
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,434
What disgusts her, what she
fears most in other people,

960
00:39:54,436 --> 00:39:55,737
that's the action she'll copy

961
00:39:55,762 --> 00:39:57,537
to justify her own belief system.

962
00:39:57,637 --> 00:39:59,145
So who has the bullet?

963
00:39:59,170 --> 00:40:00,325
Who else?

964
00:40:01,442 --> 00:40:02,942
The unsub we've been looking for

965
00:40:02,944 --> 00:40:04,644
is Melissa Miller, and we think

966
00:40:04,646 --> 00:40:06,146
she's made one of you an accomplice

967
00:40:06,148 --> 00:40:07,914
to her murder of Carl Lee.

968
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:09,981
An unwitting accomplice.

969
00:40:10,348 --> 00:40:12,176
We aren't keeping you in custody.

970
00:40:12,255 --> 00:40:13,920
Anyone who wants to leave can,

971
00:40:13,922 --> 00:40:15,688
and everyone that wanted representation

972
00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:17,056
has a lawyer present.

973
00:40:17,058 --> 00:40:19,309
All we want is for you
to listen to our theory.

974
00:40:19,481 --> 00:40:22,395
After Carl Lee's murder,
Melissa approached one of you

975
00:40:22,397 --> 00:40:23,997
and she told you
that the U.S. Government

976
00:40:23,999 --> 00:40:25,999
was going to frame
both Bryan and Carl's murder

977
00:40:26,001 --> 00:40:27,106
on the truthers.

978
00:40:27,131 --> 00:40:29,130
Right on cue, we showed up.

979
00:40:29,155 --> 00:40:31,794
So, she gave you a box or bag,

980
00:40:31,895 --> 00:40:33,540
told you not to look inside,

981
00:40:33,542 --> 00:40:35,480
said it was all part of our cover-up.

982
00:40:35,505 --> 00:40:38,011
What she gave you was material evidence

983
00:40:38,013 --> 00:40:39,262
of Carl's murder.

984
00:40:39,481 --> 00:40:41,381
Now, you can think what you want of us,

985
00:40:41,383 --> 00:40:43,278
we are not here to frame anyone.

986
00:40:43,552 --> 00:40:46,372
We're not the murderers. She is.

987
00:40:46,716 --> 00:40:49,919
Did anyone accept something
like this from her?

988
00:41:03,637 --> 00:41:04,755
I did.

989
00:41:05,191 --> 00:41:07,372
It's... it's at my house.

990
00:41:20,608 --> 00:41:21,989
You know what that is, Melissa?

991
00:41:25,527 --> 00:41:27,713
That is a magic bullet.

992
00:41:33,227 --> 00:41:34,393
Stand up.

993
00:41:36,744 --> 00:41:39,005
Melissa Miller, you are under arrest

994
00:41:39,007 --> 00:41:40,907
for the murder of Carl Lee.

995
00:41:40,909 --> 00:41:43,198
You have the right to remain silent.

996
00:41:43,223 --> 00:41:45,776
You have the right to an attorney.

997
00:42:10,071 --> 00:42:13,219
"Everyone is entitled
to his own opinion,

998
00:42:13,244 --> 00:42:15,237
but not to his own facts."

999
00:42:15,315 --> 00:42:17,248
Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

1000
00:42:23,211 --> 00:42:27,156
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