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What's up, internet?

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Whit here, fillin' your
life with another vlog

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about bein' awesome!

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Hey, internet, it's Whit.

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Here to talk to you... Fuck!

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We good, internet? What's
shakin', internet?

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What's up, what's up? Hello...

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Hola, internet. Blow me, internet.
Fuck you!

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God fucking dammit!

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You're good, it's fine. This is good.
You're good.

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Hey, friends, welcome back to the show.

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I'm Whit, you're watching,
now, let's get talking.

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I open my closet this
morning and just, my God!

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It looks incredible!

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I mean, did you see me on that runway?

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Everyone at last night's show noticed.

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I just feel really blessed.

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Like, not everyone has the opportunity

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to wear something like this.

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I asked around, and you need
at least 3 million followers,

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or they won't even make
it custom for you.

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Fuck!

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I mean, it's just one
of those situations

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where they don't tell you the
real shit until you sign.

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Toured the place, it's perfect.

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Move in, and you find out
that every single one

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of your fucking neighbors
is a chain-smoker.

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Did you know Charlie Jeffries
is gonna be at this party?

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- Are you listening?
- Yeah, of course, it's just...

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Charlie Jeffries?

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Yeah, right.

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Anyway, Jenny... Jenny writes
this letter to management,

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but they do the whole, "We
can't help you" thing,

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and I already tried talking
to the neighbors...

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So, you know, I figure I'm just gonna

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burn the whole place down, yeah?

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Commit arson, kill everyone,

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laugh maniacally while pissing
on their burnt corpses.

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When the cops show up,

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I'm gonna light them on fire too,

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'cause I can just do that
now with my bare hands.

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Totally.

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We're both really glad
you came out tonight.

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It just feels like we don't get
to see you as much anymore.

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So, Nick tells me you're
still doing your show?

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It's a vlog. It's called Whit's Hits.

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You should really check it out.

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If you like it, you can share
it on Twitter, Instagram,

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Snapchat, TikTok.

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Even OnlyFans.

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I'm not on OnlyFans.

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You know, 'cause I'm dating your friend.

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Nick doesn't have to know.

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You know, I was actually reading
that a lot of those apps

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aren't really great for
your mental health.

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I was listening to
this podcast last week

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about body image issues...

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bombarded with the toxic messaging...

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Hey.

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Whit?

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And this dude will not
stop talking about

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how many followers he has.

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So eventually I'm like, "You're
yucking my yums right now,

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and I literally cannot stand you."

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Wow, that's...

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that's really funny.

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You... you are hilarious.

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It's nice to meet you. I'm Whit.

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He said he'd shout me out
in one of his videos.

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He's got like 600,000 subscribers,

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- so if even like a frac...
- Yeah, he's not gonna do that.

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Why not?

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Because he just said that
so you'd leave him alone.

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Twitter says James Leo's
at the Scorpion Lounge.

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Last call's in like an hour,

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- so if we...
- Hey, Whit,

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I am right here, man.

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- What?
- Who...

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Who brought you to that party tonight?

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- What do you mean?
- Dude, that was...

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so fucking rude to Jenny, and...

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and...

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You know what?

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Get out of my car.

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But Nick, if you don't drive me...

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how will I get to the Scorpion Lounge?

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Fuck you!

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- It's Whit's Hits!
- Whit's Hits!

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- Welcome to Whit's Hits.
- Hey friends, welcome back to the show.

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I'm Whit, you're watching...

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_

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Have you ever wanted to be on TV?

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Feel the glow of the spotlight?

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And a chance to fill your
pockets with cold, hard cash?

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Then the Magnificent
Million Dollar Question

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is for you!

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This revolutionary game
show will be taping a pilot

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this Thursday, and will be
looking for audience members

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and participants!

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Hey, it's your homie, Whit!

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- I'm out here today with my dude, Carl!
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Can you get in the damn car, please?

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Carl! He's the best.

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Anyway, I'm diversifying my brand today,

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and I'm making my TV debut, what?

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I'm gonna be on this sick new game show

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called The Magnificent
Million Dollar Question,

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where your boy's competing
for, you guessed it,

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a million dollars!

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I'll check in with you guys
after we record to let you know

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when and where you can catch
me on that big-screen TV

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that I know you've got at home, so...

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And... and... and let me know
what you guys wanna see,

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'cause I... I wanna keep this
audience happy and growing,

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so, I... I'm always
down for suggestions.

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Okay, Whit out!

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How long is this gonna take?

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Too long.

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Hey, I'm Whit Barnett.

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Supposed to be recording

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for The Magnificent Million
Dollar Question here today.

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Perfect. Just a moment, please.

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Hello? Hi.

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Yes, he's here.

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Of course.

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- Someone will be right with you.
- Great.

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Do you know who I am?

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- Of course. Whit's Hits.
- Really?

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Sorry, of course.

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- Whit?
- Yeah?

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Follow me.

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Perfect timing. You shouldn't
have to wait too long.

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- Great. Busy day today?
- Buddy, you got no idea.

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Let's keep you in here.
We'll come get you when we're ready.

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What was that?

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We got another contestant
finishing up right now.

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Crowd really likes him.

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I'll be able to do that too, right?

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Do what?

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Be likeable?

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I mean, casting doesn't make mistakes.

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"I'm Whit, you're watching,
now, let's get talkin'!"

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- Hey, Whit?
- Hi.

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- It's good to meet ya.
- Yeah. Nice to meet you too, sir.

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I see you're right at home here.

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I'm sorry about that. I was...

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Kid, I'm fucking with you. It's fine.

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We got this shit in here for a reason.

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- So, are you excited?
- Yeah.

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That's perfect. We like excited people.

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It's entertainment. There's no
reason not to be pumped up about it.

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Yeah, of course. I can be pumped.

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So, let me give you a quick
rundown of how this works.

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We're gonna bring you out on stage,

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have the host get to know you a bit.

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Now, use your character.

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That's the point, right?
We like characters here.

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From there, you'll be asked
a series of questions.

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If you provide an incorrect answer

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at any point, game is over.

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But if you give five correct answers...

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I win a million dollars.

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Name really gives it away, uh?

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Whit? Time to go.

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Oh, hey, kid. Pardon...

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I just like to ask,

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what are you gonna do with the money?

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You know, if you win.

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I'd give it away.

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- That's charitable.
- Yeah, yeah, that's what they'd say.

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I'd set it up as this whole
stream on my channel.

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Just do this 40-minute video
where people would come on

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and cry about how sad their lives are,

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and then I'd get to decide
who the saddest person is,

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and then I'd just give them the money.

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And I'd be like...

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a hero.

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Everyone would wanna watch that.

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I like you, kid.

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You're gonna do great.

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That's you.

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Good luck.

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Hello?

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

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welcome to the Magnificent
Million Dollar Question!

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You're just in time to see
the greatest show on Earth,

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where the stakes are high,

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the prizes are immense, and the drama...

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is real.

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Hello, son. I hope you're ready to play.

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Do you have a name?

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Whit. Whit Barnett.

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Ooh, a strong name.

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I'm a fan!

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Oh, are you having a good day today?

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Well, I am now.

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What do you do for work, Whit?

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I'm a content creator.

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I have a vlog called Whit's Hits.

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Oh, well, that sounds exciting.

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Well, I have a feeling
you're gonna be getting

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a lot more followers after today!

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And does that work pay the ol'... bills?

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Well... not really.

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I also have an allowance,
but that's just temporary,

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until I make it, you know?

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Of course, of course.

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We've all been there before, right?

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Do you have any, hobbies?

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Anything else you like to do for fun?

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Well... the videos?

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Anything else, I mean.

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We're gonna come back to it.
Do you know the rules?

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And you're prepared to play?

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Prepared to chase...

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that ever evasive

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million dollars?

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Perfect.

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First question.

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What is the name of the
British playwright

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who penned such works
as Hamlet and Macbeth?

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William Shakespeare?

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Correct!

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We like to start things
off nice and simple.

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Set you up for success.

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If only life were that easy, right?

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Time for our second question,
young Whit. Are you ready?

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Yes, sir.

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In which country...

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are the ancient pyramids located?

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Egypt?

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Correct!

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I have a good feeling about you, kid!

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What's going on here?

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Do we wanna learn more about Whit?

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Yes, of course we do!

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Where're you from, Whit?

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I'm from Toronto. I
moved out here for uni.

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I just sort of stuck around after.

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I see. And your, family,
they're still in Toronto?

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How often do you see them?

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Not as often as I probably should.

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Well, would you like
to say hi to them now?

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You're on TV, after all.

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Hi, Mom. Hi, Dad. I made it!
I... I'm finally on TV.

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Third question, and this
one's a little tougher.

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Can you provide for us the address

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of the party influencer Charlie Jeffries

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attended last night?

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Is everything all right, young man?

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- Do you need a hint?
- Nope.

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No. No. I... I got it. I was there.

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It was 311 Belmont Street, in Calneta.

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Correct!

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You are getting closer
and closer, buddy!

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Why was that a question?

261
00:19:06,893 --> 00:19:10,031
Your friends must be so excited for you!

262
00:19:10,344 --> 00:19:12,992
Well, yeah, I... I guess.

263
00:19:13,018 --> 00:19:15,445
Did any of your friends join you today?

264
00:19:16,124 --> 00:19:22,383
Did they come by to revel
in your fame and stardom?

265
00:19:24,627 --> 00:19:25,795
Whit?

266
00:19:34,164 --> 00:19:39,876
Did any of your friends join you today?

267
00:19:44,538 --> 00:19:45,584
No.

268
00:19:47,980 --> 00:19:49,083
What is this?

269
00:19:49,947 --> 00:19:51,381
You seem nervous.

270
00:19:53,376 --> 00:19:55,084
But then again, I would be too...

271
00:19:56,613 --> 00:20:00,436
if I was on the brink of winning

272
00:20:00,545 --> 00:20:03,202
a million dollars!

273
00:20:03,235 --> 00:20:08,723
If I was on the precipice
of fame and stardom!

274
00:20:12,611 --> 00:20:15,017
One more question, then we'll let
you off the hook. How's that sound?

275
00:20:15,043 --> 00:20:16,103
No.

276
00:20:16,711 --> 00:20:18,431
No more questions.

277
00:20:19,577 --> 00:20:22,085
If you were to die today...

278
00:20:23,979 --> 00:20:25,616
would anyone miss you?

279
00:20:36,902 --> 00:20:38,378
You don't answer the question,

280
00:20:38,403 --> 00:20:40,421
you lose the game, young man.

281
00:20:42,594 --> 00:20:44,265
I have friends.

282
00:20:44,534 --> 00:20:46,375
That wasn't the question.

283
00:20:48,005 --> 00:20:50,195
I'm gonna ask you for some honesty...

284
00:20:51,460 --> 00:20:52,726
just this once.

285
00:20:54,567 --> 00:20:58,523
If you were to die today...

286
00:21:00,185 --> 00:21:02,976
would anyone miss you?

287
00:21:07,606 --> 00:21:09,007
Fuck you.

288
00:21:09,526 --> 00:21:11,593
- Excuse me?
- Fuck you!

289
00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:13,437
And fuck this!

290
00:21:14,964 --> 00:21:16,617
You can't do this to me.

291
00:21:17,442 --> 00:21:19,375
Everything here is bullshit!

292
00:21:19,635 --> 00:21:23,476
Your questions are bullshit.
The audience is bullshit.

293
00:21:23,980 --> 00:21:25,679
Is this even real?

294
00:21:26,084 --> 00:21:27,734
Is anyone even watching?

295
00:21:28,983 --> 00:21:30,828
Kill the stream, Gary. He popped.

296
00:21:32,523 --> 00:21:35,850
I will burn this place
to the fucking ground!

297
00:21:36,687 --> 00:21:39,429
- I'll take it from here.
- Thanks, boss.

298
00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:46,175
- What is this?
- This isn't really a game show.

299
00:21:47,008 --> 00:21:49,901
It's more of a... spoof on a game show.

300
00:21:49,928 --> 00:21:51,062
Performance art.

301
00:21:52,101 --> 00:21:54,690
Streaming live over the internet.

302
00:21:55,681 --> 00:21:58,950
- Gary, how many viewers?
- We had over 600,000.

303
00:22:04,289 --> 00:22:05,857
- 600,000?
- Yup.

304
00:22:07,092 --> 00:22:08,327
Watching that live.

305
00:22:08,978 --> 00:22:12,670
They were liking, sharing, commenting,

306
00:22:12,899 --> 00:22:15,468
overwhelmingly cheering for you.

307
00:22:16,819 --> 00:22:18,445
Kid, those viewers aren't lost forever.

308
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:20,780
We can be back online in 15 minutes.

309
00:22:21,570 --> 00:22:23,725
But only if you wanna play alone.

310
00:22:38,085 --> 00:22:39,288
Let's do it.

311
00:22:40,461 --> 00:22:41,526
Come on.

312
00:22:42,218 --> 00:22:44,054
Let me take you to the green room, okay?

313
00:22:44,222 --> 00:22:46,023
Just be a couple minutes.

314
00:22:46,655 --> 00:22:47,968
Great choice, kid.

315
00:22:48,898 --> 00:22:50,827
Your, channel there...

316
00:22:51,689 --> 00:22:53,562
it's gonna blow up after this.

317
00:22:53,996 --> 00:22:55,124
I promise.

318
00:22:57,650 --> 00:22:59,296
See you soon, bud.

319
00:23:13,128 --> 00:23:15,669
So, the 600,000 people,

320
00:23:15,694 --> 00:23:17,504
how many of them do you
think we'll get back?

321
00:23:17,529 --> 00:23:19,588
We'll get them all back, I promise.

322
00:23:20,174 --> 00:23:21,608
- Oh, hey, are...
- No.

323
00:23:21,632 --> 00:23:24,659
Next contestant's in there, so
we gotta put you somewhere else.

324
00:23:24,732 --> 00:23:26,971
Don't worry, it's much nicer.

325
00:24:00,368 --> 00:24:02,055
Are you guys still watching?

326
00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:17,653
Yo! It's Whit, and I'm back!

327
00:24:18,608 --> 00:24:20,863
I'm sorry about that blow-up earlier.

328
00:24:20,963 --> 00:24:23,395
Your boy here just didn't
really know what was going on.

329
00:24:25,163 --> 00:24:27,129
But now that you know who I am...

330
00:24:28,168 --> 00:24:29,723
what do you guys wanna see?

331
00:24:40,312 --> 00:24:41,710
Oh, you're back.

332
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,616
There's a lot of you!

333
00:24:48,616 --> 00:24:51,880
Feel free to head over to my
channel and leave a comment.

334
00:24:52,468 --> 00:24:54,616
Let me know what you guys wanna see.

335
00:24:57,042 --> 00:24:58,826
And I can be that guy.

336
00:25:00,898 --> 00:25:03,015
Just please keep watching.

337
00:25:06,033 --> 00:25:07,175
Please.

338
00:25:59,736 --> 00:26:00,778
Look,

339
00:26:01,655 --> 00:26:03,762
you're a star.

340
00:26:14,004 --> 00:26:16,716
_

341
00:26:16,741 --> 00:26:23,270
CREDITS

342
00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:29,220
Welcome back from The Void.
Thanks for watching.

343
00:26:29,721 --> 00:26:30,764
I'm David Cummings,

344
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:33,525
the creator and host of
The NoSleep Podcast.

345
00:26:34,059 --> 00:26:36,528
Today we're joined by John Thomas Kelly,

346
00:26:36,795 --> 00:26:39,664
who wrote the adaptation
of the NoSleep story,

347
00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:44,235
The Million Dollar Question,
written by Joćo Ribiero,

348
00:26:44,469 --> 00:26:47,772
which we adapted into the
episode titled "Starlight."

349
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:51,376
John, welcome. Thanks for
being with us today.

350
00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:53,645
Oh, thank you so much for having me.

351
00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:56,748
Now, John, you are the screenwriter

352
00:26:57,015 --> 00:26:57,916
of this episode,

353
00:26:58,149 --> 00:27:02,429
but you're also co-showrunner
of Tales from the Void,

354
00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:05,298
and I'm curious what
drew you or inspired you

355
00:27:05,323 --> 00:27:07,225
to tackle this screenplay.

356
00:27:08,393 --> 00:27:11,972
Yeah, so, when I first read
The Million Dollar Question,

357
00:27:11,997 --> 00:27:14,407
I really loved the brutality inherent

358
00:27:14,432 --> 00:27:17,002
in the twist at the end
of that story, right?

359
00:27:17,569 --> 00:27:20,981
So that was kind of the immediate draw.

360
00:27:21,006 --> 00:27:22,649
But I think the more I read it,

361
00:27:22,674 --> 00:27:26,111
the more I was very attracted
to the idea of this game show

362
00:27:26,511 --> 00:27:28,955
that has a veneer of professionalism

363
00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:32,325
hiding an incredibly
grimy and dirty reality

364
00:27:32,350 --> 00:27:33,560
of what's actually happening

365
00:27:33,585 --> 00:27:35,453
kind of underneath the surface, right?

366
00:27:35,954 --> 00:27:38,665
Because having worked in the
film industry for, like,

367
00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:41,601
a decade-plus now, I saw
some obvious parallels there

368
00:27:41,626 --> 00:27:43,461
that I thought would be
interesting to explore.

369
00:27:43,962 --> 00:27:45,639
One of the main themes of this story

370
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:48,008
is influencer culture

371
00:27:48,033 --> 00:27:50,468
and the obsession we
have with social media.

372
00:27:50,702 --> 00:27:53,880
And I'm curious, what...
what did you want to instill

373
00:27:53,905 --> 00:27:56,483
into those themes, and
what kind of message

374
00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:58,910
did you want this story to have?

375
00:27:59,177 --> 00:28:02,288
Francesco, you know,
who's my co-showrunner

376
00:28:02,313 --> 00:28:04,883
and the creator of the show,
and who directed the episode,

377
00:28:05,083 --> 00:28:07,260
he and I spoke about this a lot

378
00:28:07,285 --> 00:28:10,188
in the lead-up to, you know,
the execution on this one.

379
00:28:10,555 --> 00:28:13,867
And I think we were in
a very similar boat,

380
00:28:13,892 --> 00:28:15,702
where I think we were both raised

381
00:28:15,727 --> 00:28:16,803
in an environment

382
00:28:16,828 --> 00:28:18,897
where humility was,
like, a core teaching.

383
00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:20,141
And it's, you know,

384
00:28:20,166 --> 00:28:21,908
was really stressed upon both of us

385
00:28:21,933 --> 00:28:25,403
that the world did not revolve
around our whims and desires.

386
00:28:26,938 --> 00:28:28,515
so, you know, personally,
I've always found it

387
00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:29,549
a bit confounding

388
00:28:29,574 --> 00:28:31,551
that there are people who seemingly feel

389
00:28:31,576 --> 00:28:33,753
the need to document every
moment of their lives,

390
00:28:33,778 --> 00:28:36,523
as it seems, you know,
equal parts narcissistic

391
00:28:36,548 --> 00:28:38,016
and emotionally exhausting.

392
00:28:38,349 --> 00:28:40,560
You're out at, like, a concert
or you're out to eat,

393
00:28:40,585 --> 00:28:43,054
and there are literally
people who are so driven by

394
00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:45,498
this weird form of digital engagement

395
00:28:45,523 --> 00:28:47,500
that they're setting up a
shot on their cell phone

396
00:28:47,525 --> 00:28:50,195
as opposed to kind of living in
the moment in front of them.

397
00:28:50,795 --> 00:28:54,174
And this is not intended
to be like an old man

398
00:28:54,199 --> 00:28:56,476
shakes fist at tree situation.

399
00:28:56,501 --> 00:28:58,945
I don't think it's generational,
but I think it's more just

400
00:28:58,970 --> 00:29:02,048
the way that our societal
norms and values have evolved

401
00:29:02,073 --> 00:29:03,408
across all generations,

402
00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:06,244
from boomers to millennials, to Gen Z.

403
00:29:06,511 --> 00:29:09,522
Where I think there is now a
lot of value that is placed

404
00:29:09,547 --> 00:29:11,691
on this form of cheap fame, right?

405
00:29:11,716 --> 00:29:14,152
Where you're simply famous
for being accessible.

406
00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:16,529
So what the episode, I think...

407
00:29:16,554 --> 00:29:19,399
And again, this was something
that Francesco and I spoke about

408
00:29:19,424 --> 00:29:20,600
kind of at length.

409
00:29:20,625 --> 00:29:21,968
It would be interesting to take

410
00:29:21,993 --> 00:29:24,237
kind of an extreme version of that idea

411
00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:25,206
and play it through

412
00:29:25,231 --> 00:29:26,998
to its logical conclusion, right?

413
00:29:27,298 --> 00:29:30,076
Where we're taking this guy
whose entire life is really,

414
00:29:30,101 --> 00:29:33,113
truly accessible, to the extent
that he's actually quite happy

415
00:29:33,138 --> 00:29:35,048
at the notion of dying on camera,

416
00:29:35,073 --> 00:29:37,217
because it's going to get
him a lot of these clicks

417
00:29:37,242 --> 00:29:39,244
and attention that he so desires,

418
00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:42,247
that have evaded him up
to this point, so...

419
00:29:43,748 --> 00:29:47,761
In "Starlight," we see
Whit trying to process

420
00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:51,122
everything that's going through
or that he is going through.

421
00:29:51,422 --> 00:29:55,660
And yet the story seems to
be hinting to the audience,

422
00:29:56,161 --> 00:29:57,937
what's gonna happen.

423
00:29:57,962 --> 00:29:59,372
And so it's almost like the audience

424
00:29:59,397 --> 00:30:02,500
is a few steps ahead of where Whit is,

425
00:30:02,867 --> 00:30:04,744
and so you're trying to tease

426
00:30:04,769 --> 00:30:07,505
what's gonna happen
without giving it away.

427
00:30:07,939 --> 00:30:10,750
This really comes back to the idea

428
00:30:10,775 --> 00:30:12,185
of infusing the episode

429
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:14,012
with a little bit of comedy, right?

430
00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:17,115
Kind of like a marker of just,

431
00:30:17,448 --> 00:30:19,459
you know, something that
will always be funny

432
00:30:19,484 --> 00:30:22,428
is when you have a character
who's a bit of a dunce

433
00:30:22,453 --> 00:30:24,764
and the audience is a
step or two steps ahead

434
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:26,157
of where that character is.

435
00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:29,127
Because, you know, to
the question you posed,

436
00:30:29,861 --> 00:30:33,164
we get to revel in the dramatic irony

437
00:30:33,464 --> 00:30:35,809
of the character being
just so far behind

438
00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:36,943
where we are mentally,

439
00:30:36,968 --> 00:30:39,204
in terms of the situation
they're stepping into.

440
00:30:39,604 --> 00:30:42,215
There is a bit of a balance there,

441
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,677
'cause you don't want to create
a character who is just so,

442
00:30:45,910 --> 00:30:47,821
you know, obnoxiously beyond stupid

443
00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:49,547
that it feels unbelievable,

444
00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:51,791
so we really tried to...
You know, something

445
00:30:51,816 --> 00:30:54,152
that I tried to do in the
script is to give him

446
00:30:54,485 --> 00:30:59,199
such a incessant need
to achieve the goal

447
00:30:59,224 --> 00:31:00,433
that we've placed in front of him,

448
00:31:00,458 --> 00:31:02,535
of being famous, that that kind of,

449
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,504
instead of him just being
too stupid to understand

450
00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:06,364
his surroundings, he's just blinded

451
00:31:06,564 --> 00:31:08,867
by his insatiable need for fame,

452
00:31:09,234 --> 00:31:11,177
to make decisions that
are intrinsically, like,

453
00:31:11,202 --> 00:31:12,203
really stupid.

454
00:31:12,403 --> 00:31:15,148
But every time he makes one
of those dumb decisions,

455
00:31:15,173 --> 00:31:17,884
and like, walks through the
double doors, you know,

456
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:21,087
to go backstage or you know, walks on...
You know,

457
00:31:21,112 --> 00:31:23,890
decides to go back to the second version

458
00:31:23,915 --> 00:31:25,625
of the green room, when I think, like,

459
00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:27,485
we all know there's
clearly something up.

460
00:31:27,819 --> 00:31:30,530
You know, it gives a bit
of a wink and a nod

461
00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:31,531
to the audience, of like,

462
00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:33,499
there's... there's some
comedic elements here.

463
00:31:33,524 --> 00:31:35,468
We're having a bit of
fun at his expense.

464
00:31:35,493 --> 00:31:36,836
You understand why he's doing it,

465
00:31:36,861 --> 00:31:40,006
but you are more than allowed to...
to laugh at the fate

466
00:31:40,031 --> 00:31:43,902
that is about to befall this,
rather naive individual.

467
00:31:44,302 --> 00:31:47,647
In the original story, it
really is very plot-driven

468
00:31:47,672 --> 00:31:50,049
and not as much character-driven.

469
00:31:50,074 --> 00:31:54,053
And yet you adapted it to
really bring out characters.

470
00:31:54,078 --> 00:31:56,256
The character of Whit, certainly,

471
00:31:56,281 --> 00:31:58,449
but then we have the carnival barker,

472
00:31:58,683 --> 00:32:02,862
the person who really infuses
not just a sense of dark humor,

473
00:32:02,887 --> 00:32:05,732
but he really kind of, ties together

474
00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:07,625
the whole game show process.

475
00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:11,137
So, how did you decide
to take this character

476
00:32:11,162 --> 00:32:14,607
with his snappy dialogue
and the wit that he brings

477
00:32:14,632 --> 00:32:17,844
to the... to the story? You know,

478
00:32:17,869 --> 00:32:19,712
how did you build him in your mind

479
00:32:19,737 --> 00:32:21,406
to fit him into this story?

480
00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:26,419
Yeah. So whenever, you know,
you're working within,

481
00:32:26,444 --> 00:32:27,987
like, a set of ideas,

482
00:32:28,012 --> 00:32:30,723
and you need to, you
know, find characters

483
00:32:30,748 --> 00:32:33,693
to fit into those ideas,
what I typically try to do

484
00:32:33,718 --> 00:32:36,763
is figure out who would
be the best person

485
00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:38,990
to place inside of
this situation, right?

486
00:32:39,424 --> 00:32:42,268
So, looking at the story
from 1,000-foot view,

487
00:32:42,293 --> 00:32:44,604
you're looking at, you
know, unsuspecting guy

488
00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:47,198
goes into game show not
realizing it is snuff film.

489
00:32:47,665 --> 00:32:49,742
So it's like, well, who's
like the perfect person

490
00:32:49,767 --> 00:32:51,411
to be stepping into that situation?

491
00:32:51,436 --> 00:32:53,646
Well, the perfect person to be
stepping into that situation

492
00:32:53,671 --> 00:32:56,983
is a guy who so desperately
wants to be famous

493
00:32:57,008 --> 00:32:59,285
that he will maybe ignore
some of the telltale signs

494
00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:00,553
that something is wrong.

495
00:33:00,578 --> 00:33:02,889
You know, this person
who does not have fame,

496
00:33:02,914 --> 00:33:04,590
does not have,

497
00:33:04,615 --> 00:33:07,360
you know, clout, I guess,
in any way, shape, or form,

498
00:33:07,385 --> 00:33:08,953
but who desperately desires it.

499
00:33:09,454 --> 00:33:11,264
And I thought with the carnival barker,

500
00:33:11,289 --> 00:33:13,633
what would be very interesting
would be to create

501
00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:16,661
a pure juxtaposition to Whit.

502
00:33:17,061 --> 00:33:19,572
Where it's this guy who's
literally going on stage

503
00:33:19,597 --> 00:33:22,200
in front of a, you know, a "crowd."

504
00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:24,669
A crowd of, like, adoring followers,

505
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,447
but who hates it, right?
So, you have this...

506
00:33:27,472 --> 00:33:28,915
So, you know, while Whit, you know,

507
00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:30,450
so desperately wants to be on stage

508
00:33:30,475 --> 00:33:32,243
and so desperately wants this attention,

509
00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:34,979
and is very nervous in that seat,

510
00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:39,025
you have the carnival barker
who is incredibly calm

511
00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:40,485
in the spotlight,

512
00:33:40,818 --> 00:33:42,929
has all of the spotlight
he could ever desire,

513
00:33:42,954 --> 00:33:45,164
and just completely despises it

514
00:33:45,189 --> 00:33:47,959
and is kind of, sarcastic throughout.

515
00:33:48,326 --> 00:33:51,237
And I feel like this episode
was really inspired by

516
00:33:51,262 --> 00:33:56,709
those giallo films, where the focus on,

517
00:33:56,734 --> 00:33:59,779
the extremes of death and the blood

518
00:33:59,804 --> 00:34:01,506
and the gore that comes along with it.

519
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:05,218
Both Francesco and I are really
big fans of giallo films,

520
00:34:05,243 --> 00:34:06,786
and in modern cinema,

521
00:34:06,811 --> 00:34:09,113
you don't see a ton of opportunities

522
00:34:09,447 --> 00:34:11,090
to be able to take big swings.

523
00:34:11,115 --> 00:34:15,361
You know, like, you know,
Argento used to in Deep Red

524
00:34:15,386 --> 00:34:18,022
or Opera, or films like
Torso or Stage Fright.

525
00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:20,700
But when we looked at the material

526
00:34:20,725 --> 00:34:23,561
that was on the page, we
saw a lot of opportunity

527
00:34:23,761 --> 00:34:26,439
to go really big and really broad.

528
00:34:26,464 --> 00:34:29,275
And I think Francesco did some
incredibly interesting things

529
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:31,769
with lighting and shot design and music,

530
00:34:32,036 --> 00:34:34,881
that plays really nicely
with the manufactured feel

531
00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:36,908
of what you're going to
get on a game show set.

532
00:34:37,141 --> 00:34:39,252
And similarly, the manufactured world

533
00:34:39,277 --> 00:34:41,679
that an influencer is trying
to portray around them.

534
00:34:42,046 --> 00:34:44,782
So being able to kind of leverage the...

535
00:34:45,316 --> 00:34:46,926
the markings of a giallo film

536
00:34:46,951 --> 00:34:48,928
and to create a manufactured feel

537
00:34:48,953 --> 00:34:52,298
across both that game show set
and the world of the influencer,

538
00:34:52,323 --> 00:34:55,668
felt like a really, you
know, good fit of style,

539
00:34:55,693 --> 00:34:57,595
you know, to material.

540
00:34:58,296 --> 00:35:00,106
John, thanks for being with us tonight,

541
00:35:00,131 --> 00:35:01,841
and thank you for being such a big part

542
00:35:01,866 --> 00:35:03,476
of Tales from the Void.

543
00:35:03,501 --> 00:35:04,677
Thank you so much for having me.

544
00:35:04,702 --> 00:35:06,237
I had, I had a great time.

545
00:35:07,038 --> 00:35:09,682
Thanks for watching this
extended presentation

546
00:35:09,707 --> 00:35:11,476
of Tales from the Void.

547
00:35:11,709 --> 00:35:14,145
We look forward to you
joining us next time.

