1 00:00:03,226 --> 00:00:07,543 www.subtitulamos.tv 2 00:00:28,916 --> 00:00:32,770 _ 3 00:00:47,873 --> 00:00:50,170 I'll just let it stew for a minute. 4 00:00:50,526 --> 00:00:52,725 Nothing worse than a weak tea, is there? 5 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,696 Well, there are a few worse things, but I know what you mean. 6 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,820 - Do you take sugar? - No, thank you. 7 00:00:59,573 --> 00:01:02,030 I'll put one in anyway. It's good for shock. 8 00:01:03,140 --> 00:01:05,219 And you're sure you don't want a tot of whisky or anything? 9 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,060 - I don't drink. - Ah, very wise. 10 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:10,580 Is there anyone you'd like me to call? 11 00:01:10,866 --> 00:01:12,437 No. Thank you. 12 00:01:12,843 --> 00:01:14,595 I don't want to put you to any trouble. 13 00:01:14,616 --> 00:01:17,396 It's only a cup of tea. Is cow's milk all right? 14 00:01:17,417 --> 00:01:19,060 As opposed to what? 15 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,780 Can I ask how long you were out there? 16 00:01:24,980 --> 00:01:26,627 Um, not sure. 17 00:01:26,873 --> 00:01:29,220 - A couple of hours. - And nobody stopped? 18 00:01:30,646 --> 00:01:32,096 No. Well, why would they? 19 00:01:32,126 --> 00:01:35,240 I suppose I was just a man standing on a bridge looking at the view. 20 00:01:35,519 --> 00:01:37,003 Must have been... 21 00:01:37,559 --> 00:01:39,878 20 or 30 people walk by. 22 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,980 It's the bystander effect. The more people there are, 23 00:01:43,253 --> 00:01:45,533 the less likely any of them are to help. 24 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,680 Why did you stop? 25 00:01:51,483 --> 00:01:54,240 I thought you looked like a bit of a lost soul. 26 00:01:56,113 --> 00:01:58,152 Anyway, don't feel like you have to say anything. 27 00:01:58,173 --> 00:02:00,793 Um, I'm happy just to sit with you, give you some space. 28 00:02:01,233 --> 00:02:03,033 Thanks. Um, I will just... 29 00:02:05,307 --> 00:02:06,507 take some time. 30 00:02:06,579 --> 00:02:09,579 Yeah, of course. Yeah. I've got some stuff to do anyway. 31 00:02:22,086 --> 00:02:24,416 - _ - You went to Cambridge? 32 00:02:24,459 --> 00:02:27,300 McCambridge. It's an online college. 33 00:02:27,587 --> 00:02:30,580 Should've got a bigger frame. It looks like it says Cambridge. 34 00:02:32,253 --> 00:02:33,772 Are you a doctor? 35 00:02:33,859 --> 00:02:35,578 I'm a therapist. 36 00:02:35,647 --> 00:02:38,360 But don't worry, I'm not going to charge my hourly rate. 37 00:02:38,660 --> 00:02:40,459 Is there much call for that round here? 38 00:02:40,493 --> 00:02:41,860 Oh, you'd be surprised. 39 00:02:41,890 --> 00:02:43,219 I'm fairly new to the area 40 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,560 but I've already got quite a full client list. 41 00:02:47,793 --> 00:02:50,593 I suppose people go mad in the countryside, don't they? 42 00:02:51,846 --> 00:02:55,220 You're always hearing about farmers blowing their brains out. 43 00:02:55,540 --> 00:02:56,979 Well, the isolation doesn't help. 44 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,719 But, yeah, that's part of the reason I came out here, 45 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,440 to act as a listening post. 46 00:03:01,516 --> 00:03:05,616 This is a neutral space where people can feel able to say... 47 00:03:05,696 --> 00:03:07,480 whatever they want to say. 48 00:03:07,501 --> 00:03:09,161 Like Free Parking. 49 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,149 - Sorry? - Like Free Parking in Monopoly. 50 00:03:12,170 --> 00:03:13,616 It's a neutral space. 51 00:03:13,636 --> 00:03:16,080 Exactly! I'm Free Parking. 52 00:03:16,207 --> 00:03:18,387 You can rest your boot here as long as you like. 53 00:03:18,419 --> 00:03:20,320 They don't have the boot any more. 54 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,940 They changed it to a penguin in 2017. 55 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,996 The bird, not the biscuit. 56 00:03:25,226 --> 00:03:27,266 I'm not a big fan of games. 57 00:03:28,686 --> 00:03:30,126 I am. 58 00:03:31,247 --> 00:03:32,817 Can I ask... 59 00:03:33,406 --> 00:03:36,446 have you ever spoken to anyone about your situation? 60 00:03:37,986 --> 00:03:39,406 What situation? 61 00:03:39,533 --> 00:03:42,553 Well, whatever it was that led you to standing on that bridge tonight 62 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:44,159 contemplating... 63 00:03:44,486 --> 00:03:46,940 whatever you were contemplating. 64 00:03:47,173 --> 00:03:48,600 No. 65 00:03:49,083 --> 00:03:50,220 I haven't. 66 00:03:51,060 --> 00:03:53,320 I mean, I can't even get through to my doctor. 67 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,383 You've got to ring by 8:00, and then it's engaged for 45 minutes. 68 00:03:56,403 --> 00:03:58,460 They offer you a Zoom. I haven't got strong enough Wi-Fi. 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,480 I mean, the whole thing is totally fucked! 70 00:04:01,519 --> 00:04:04,363 Yeah, you're right, it is fucked. 71 00:04:04,673 --> 00:04:06,940 The system's under a lot of pressure. 72 00:04:07,527 --> 00:04:10,507 I like to try and see my clients face-to-face. 73 00:04:10,660 --> 00:04:12,820 I can get a better read that way. 74 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:17,180 What do people talk about? 75 00:04:17,533 --> 00:04:19,033 That's up to them. 76 00:04:19,246 --> 00:04:21,186 And what if people don't want to talk? 77 00:04:21,213 --> 00:04:22,776 That's also up to them. 78 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:25,226 There's no one way of doing things. 79 00:04:25,493 --> 00:04:27,940 I offer various mindfulness classes, 80 00:04:27,961 --> 00:04:30,660 a sort of cognitive detox. 81 00:04:31,259 --> 00:04:32,703 What kind of classes? 82 00:04:32,740 --> 00:04:36,449 Oh, CBT, laughter yoga, hypnotherapy. 83 00:04:36,470 --> 00:04:38,303 What's, um... What's laughter yoga? 84 00:04:38,323 --> 00:04:40,076 Um, it's a fairly new practice, 85 00:04:40,096 --> 00:04:43,780 popularised in the mid-90s by Dr Madan Kataria. 86 00:04:44,053 --> 00:04:46,320 He conjectures that you don't actually 87 00:04:46,373 --> 00:04:49,212 need comedy or funny stories to trick the body 88 00:04:49,233 --> 00:04:51,056 into the benefits of laughter, 89 00:04:51,176 --> 00:04:53,562 - so with these exercises - _ 90 00:04:53,583 --> 00:04:55,653 you... you just start laughing. 91 00:04:57,939 --> 00:04:59,850 And eventually... 92 00:05:04,409 --> 00:05:06,430 you really start to benefit! 93 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,876 I don't know whether I'm laughing at you or with you. 94 00:05:11,906 --> 00:05:14,746 It doesn't matter! As long as you're laughing! 95 00:05:22,339 --> 00:05:25,760 OK, OK. Let's leave it there. 96 00:05:28,952 --> 00:05:30,343 No, that's good. 97 00:05:30,620 --> 00:05:31,867 That's good. 98 00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:35,020 Let it all out. Come on. 99 00:05:50,460 --> 00:05:51,590 Here. 100 00:05:53,483 --> 00:05:55,876 These are the real tools of my trade. 101 00:05:57,353 --> 00:05:58,613 Thank you. 102 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,380 I'm sorry. 103 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,960 No, it's... fine. 104 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,600 I've heard a lot worse, I can assure you. 105 00:06:12,579 --> 00:06:14,439 Do you want to talk about it? 106 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,100 You know, sometimes saying a problem out loud can reduce... 107 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,120 I think I might have killed somebody. 108 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,700 You think? 109 00:06:25,199 --> 00:06:26,380 Yeah. 110 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,380 I'm not sure. 111 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,020 OK. 112 00:06:31,517 --> 00:06:33,340 Do you feel able to give any more... 113 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,246 I didn't ask you to drag me from that bridge and bring me back here, did I? 114 00:06:36,597 --> 00:06:37,540 No. 115 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,260 No. No. So I don't want to be fucking analysed, all right? 116 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:41,860 Have a night off! 117 00:06:43,359 --> 00:06:45,180 OK, I'm sorry. 118 00:06:47,139 --> 00:06:48,539 I'm sorry. 119 00:06:52,293 --> 00:06:54,093 Can I use your bathroom, please? 120 00:06:54,859 --> 00:06:56,186 Sure. 121 00:06:57,140 --> 00:06:59,960 Yeah, it's just through there. On the left. 122 00:08:02,016 --> 00:08:03,420 Sorry for shouting. 123 00:08:03,753 --> 00:08:05,780 Oh, it's no problem. 124 00:08:09,780 --> 00:08:12,200 Did you do the drawing in the bathroom? 125 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,620 No, no, that's... that's my son, Robbie. 126 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,520 He's... He's doing art A-level. 127 00:08:16,867 --> 00:08:18,063 - It's good. - Yeah. 128 00:08:18,136 --> 00:08:20,980 Yeah, he's very talented. I'm proud of him. 129 00:08:22,266 --> 00:08:24,800 I used to like drawing when I was at school. 130 00:08:27,707 --> 00:08:30,136 A lot of people find it very therapeutic. 131 00:08:30,633 --> 00:08:32,300 Robbie's quite a shy kid. 132 00:08:32,503 --> 00:08:33,720 It's good for him. 133 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,980 His teacher says it really brings him out of himself. 134 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Would you like to take a... a seat over by the fire? 135 00:08:46,093 --> 00:08:49,393 So, um, what kind of things did you like to draw? 136 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,820 Oh, anything, really. Landscape, portrait. 137 00:08:52,883 --> 00:08:54,236 I wasn't very good. 138 00:08:54,256 --> 00:08:55,923 You'll have to let me be the judge of that. 139 00:08:55,943 --> 00:08:57,840 If you fancy it. 140 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,560 So is, um... 141 00:09:02,553 --> 00:09:04,653 Is this art therapy? 142 00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:07,380 It's whatever you want it to be. 143 00:09:09,566 --> 00:09:11,846 Just express yourself. 144 00:09:12,773 --> 00:09:14,020 Here. 145 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,740 Um, well, I, um... I might... 146 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,740 I might draw you, then. 147 00:09:20,793 --> 00:09:21,923 Oh, of course. 148 00:09:22,127 --> 00:09:24,100 As long as you get my best side. 149 00:09:24,710 --> 00:09:27,000 I'm kidding, I don't really have one. 150 00:09:54,916 --> 00:09:56,660 So I don't even know your name. 151 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,480 Oh, um, it's Drew. 152 00:09:59,970 --> 00:10:02,723 Ah! My name's Blake, as you probably saw on my diploma. 153 00:10:08,113 --> 00:10:10,440 So do you work, Drew? 154 00:10:10,839 --> 00:10:12,043 I did. 155 00:10:12,467 --> 00:10:14,230 About a year ago I was working as an assistant 156 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,580 at an estate agent's. 157 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,780 Just a high-street branch. It was fine. 158 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Didn't feel like the sort of thing I'd do for ever, but... 159 00:10:20,940 --> 00:10:22,600 I was happy enough. 160 00:10:22,740 --> 00:10:25,880 And one day, I was due to show a potential client around 161 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,766 a rented property. 162 00:10:27,786 --> 00:10:29,703 It was a six-month, short-lease contract. 163 00:10:29,723 --> 00:10:31,040 And when I arrived, 164 00:10:31,283 --> 00:10:33,109 there was this girl waiting outside for me. 165 00:10:33,167 --> 00:10:34,360 Have you got? 166 00:10:34,496 --> 00:10:35,876 I wanted a brown. 167 00:10:37,059 --> 00:10:39,539 And I introduced myself and we went inside. 168 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,350 And I could tell straight away 169 00:10:42,370 --> 00:10:44,580 there was something not right about her. 170 00:10:44,730 --> 00:10:46,900 I mean, she'd definitely been crying. 171 00:10:47,359 --> 00:10:49,770 And she was jumpy and distracted. 172 00:10:49,791 --> 00:10:51,820 Anyway, I showed her around. 173 00:10:52,033 --> 00:10:53,436 Didn't take long. 174 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,550 But the next day... 175 00:11:34,780 --> 00:11:36,280 Jesus. 176 00:11:36,573 --> 00:11:38,173 Why did you drug me? 177 00:11:42,166 --> 00:11:44,020 I could ask you the same thing. 178 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,420 Are you in the habit of doping people that you bring back here? 179 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:47,780 Of course not. 180 00:11:48,077 --> 00:11:50,403 You were acting unpredictably. You have a gun. 181 00:11:50,443 --> 00:11:51,856 You said you'd killed somebody. 182 00:11:51,876 --> 00:11:53,556 I said I might have killed somebody. 183 00:11:53,576 --> 00:11:55,720 It was a precautionary measure. 184 00:11:57,150 --> 00:11:59,960 Anyway, are you in the habit of doping people who save your life? 185 00:12:00,007 --> 00:12:01,600 You didn't save my life. 186 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,520 I was waiting for you on that bridge. 187 00:12:03,541 --> 00:12:04,873 I knew you'd be along at that time. 188 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,080 I've been watching you for quite a while now. 189 00:12:07,246 --> 00:12:08,466 Why? 190 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,133 Look, if you're going to rob me, 191 00:12:10,157 --> 00:12:11,589 just take what you want and go. 192 00:12:11,610 --> 00:12:13,020 That's not a very nice assumption, you know. 193 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,623 You shouldn't put negative thoughts into my head. 194 00:12:14,643 --> 00:12:17,080 I'm in a very fragile state of mind! 195 00:12:18,793 --> 00:12:19,850 Yes. 196 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,120 I can see that. 197 00:12:21,153 --> 00:12:23,940 I'm starting to wonder how good a therapist you actually are. 198 00:12:26,925 --> 00:12:30,145 You should know my son, Robbie, will be back any minute. 199 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,980 He's been on a night out with his friends. 200 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,920 - I don't think so. - It's true, I promise you. 201 00:12:35,047 --> 00:12:36,480 Please. 202 00:12:36,767 --> 00:12:38,856 Please, just let me go. 203 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,533 I know you're facing some difficulties, 204 00:12:41,553 --> 00:12:43,380 but you can turn this around, Drew. 205 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,260 Oh, can I? Well, thank you very much, Blake, 206 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,660 using your first name to establish trust. 207 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,440 Look, I don't mean to upset you but, please... 208 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,960 just tell me what you want. 209 00:12:56,486 --> 00:12:58,526 I want you to know what it's like to be me. 210 00:13:00,827 --> 00:13:01,990 Okay. 211 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,780 That's understandable. 212 00:13:04,233 --> 00:13:05,863 You read all these books? 213 00:13:05,973 --> 00:13:07,430 - Yes. - Really? 214 00:13:07,451 --> 00:13:10,191 You don't just have them here to make people think you're clever? 215 00:13:10,366 --> 00:13:11,386 No. 216 00:13:11,770 --> 00:13:13,800 I don't care what people think of me. 217 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,580 Who are these? Close family relatives? 218 00:13:17,347 --> 00:13:19,187 No, they're psychiatric patients. 219 00:13:19,873 --> 00:13:21,413 It's the Szondi test. 220 00:13:21,460 --> 00:13:24,120 It's designed to reveal your innermost traits. 221 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,780 You're supposed to choose the person 222 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,316 you find the most unsettling or scary, 223 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:31,260 who you'd least like to meet in a dark alleyway. 224 00:13:31,909 --> 00:13:33,589 This one. Number six. 225 00:13:33,660 --> 00:13:35,400 She's the depressive. 226 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,100 It suggests you're repressing feelings of self-loathing and guilt. 227 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,340 You have a predisposition to negative emotions 228 00:13:43,242 --> 00:13:45,476 - and inadequacy. - That's not a very wise thing to say 229 00:13:45,497 --> 00:13:47,010 to someone with a gun in their hand. 230 00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:49,220 Number one looks like you. What's his trait? 231 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,903 He's the sadist. 232 00:13:53,076 --> 00:13:54,279 Oh, really? 233 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,100 Look, it's been discredited for decades. 234 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,540 It's just there as a talking point. 235 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:00,540 Hmm, well, let me give you a talking point. 236 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:02,180 You might know this one. 237 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,490 Imagine there is a runaway train 238 00:14:04,513 --> 00:14:06,103 thundering down a railway track, 239 00:14:06,130 --> 00:14:09,170 and looking ahead you see that there are five people standing on the line. 240 00:14:09,190 --> 00:14:11,220 Now, you're standing next to a lever 241 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,183 that will send the train on a different route. 242 00:14:13,204 --> 00:14:15,223 However, you notice that there is a single person 243 00:14:15,243 --> 00:14:16,816 - standing on this side track. - Yes, yes, 244 00:14:16,850 --> 00:14:17,996 the trolley problem. 245 00:14:18,016 --> 00:14:20,100 Do you pull the lever and kill one person 246 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,220 or do nothing and five people die? 247 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,120 Exactly. So what would you do? 248 00:14:24,141 --> 00:14:26,383 Well... it's just something 249 00:14:26,410 --> 00:14:28,310 to engineer a moral debate, isn't it? 250 00:14:28,323 --> 00:14:30,416 Utilitarianism vs deontology. 251 00:14:30,453 --> 00:14:31,880 In English! 252 00:14:32,622 --> 00:14:34,789 Do you focus on the best outcome 253 00:14:34,810 --> 00:14:36,340 or the most moral one? 254 00:14:36,519 --> 00:14:39,396 Pulling the lever is essentially choosing to murder, 255 00:14:39,436 --> 00:14:41,330 clearly not the moral choice, 256 00:14:41,643 --> 00:14:43,640 but saves the most people. 257 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,880 It's the difference between killing and letting die. 258 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:49,680 So what would you do? 259 00:14:50,816 --> 00:14:53,263 Well, it's all hypothetical, 260 00:14:53,463 --> 00:14:56,840 but sometimes the right choice is to do nothing. 261 00:14:59,653 --> 00:15:01,313 I thought you'd say that. 262 00:15:01,419 --> 00:15:03,639 All right, what if there is a third option? 263 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,420 You can throw yourself on the line, 264 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,600 stopping the train and saving everyone, 265 00:15:07,689 --> 00:15:09,152 all six people. 266 00:15:09,393 --> 00:15:10,920 Would you do that? 267 00:15:11,780 --> 00:15:14,250 So the dilemma becomes a trilemma. 268 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,940 Well, in that case, I suppose it depends on who the people are. 269 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,416 You know, if it's Shakespeare, Einstein, 270 00:15:19,436 --> 00:15:21,576 Gandhi, Galileo and Mary Berry... 271 00:15:21,596 --> 00:15:22,863 - Mary Berry? - Oh, come on, 272 00:15:22,883 --> 00:15:24,220 she's a national treasure! 273 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,177 then, yeah, 274 00:15:25,332 --> 00:15:26,970 probably I would. But, um... 275 00:15:27,050 --> 00:15:30,780 if it was Hitler, Genghis Khan and Gregg Wallace, 276 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:31,980 then maybe not. 277 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,980 I don't think you're taking this very seriously, Blake. 278 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,000 Then why don't you tell me what this is all about? 279 00:15:39,219 --> 00:15:41,020 What do you remember 280 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,000 about Ellie Dawson? 281 00:15:44,353 --> 00:15:46,173 Who's Ellie Dawson? 282 00:15:46,333 --> 00:15:48,302 A former patient of yours. 283 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:51,455 Oh, well, in that case, even if I could remember her, which I can't, 284 00:15:51,476 --> 00:15:53,456 I wouldn't be permitted to discuss it with you. 285 00:15:53,476 --> 00:15:55,300 Doctor-patient confidentiality and all that. 286 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,616 - You're not a doctor! - Well, therapist, then. 287 00:15:57,636 --> 00:15:59,540 Oh, well, anyone can call themselves a fucking therapist. 288 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,140 "Oh, boo-hoo! My kids have all grown up. 289 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,656 "What am I going to do with the rest of my life? 290 00:16:02,676 --> 00:16:04,443 "I know, I'll enrol at McDonalds University 291 00:16:04,463 --> 00:16:07,496 and do a psychotherapy course, print my own diploma from home!" 292 00:16:07,516 --> 00:16:10,310 McCambridge Online is a well-respected educational hub, 293 00:16:10,330 --> 00:16:12,900 and anyway I don't have to justify myself to you. 294 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,820 Am I a therapist because I'm talking to you now? 295 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,340 - No. - Why? What's the difference? 296 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,940 Cos I don't tie my patients up 297 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,076 and force them to listen to my ramblings. 298 00:16:20,096 --> 00:16:23,200 Oh, no, you're far more sly than that, aren't you? 299 00:16:23,686 --> 00:16:25,406 What do you mean? 300 00:16:26,593 --> 00:16:28,096 Ellie Dawson. 301 00:16:28,933 --> 00:16:31,420 She came to you with low mood, 302 00:16:31,823 --> 00:16:33,780 depression, abandonment issues. 303 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,780 You put her on a course of anti-psych drugs, 304 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,800 the same ones I gave you just now. And then what happened? 305 00:16:40,093 --> 00:16:42,143 I honestly have no idea who you're talking about. 306 00:16:42,193 --> 00:16:44,260 Let's jog your memory, then. 307 00:16:47,773 --> 00:16:49,520 Luckily, she, um... 308 00:16:50,386 --> 00:16:53,406 she recorded some of your meetings on her phone. 309 00:16:53,453 --> 00:16:56,183 Like you say, it's important to have safeguarding measures in place. 310 00:16:56,236 --> 00:16:58,140 I never consented to these recordings. 311 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,900 This is a violation of my privacy. 312 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:01,440 Shut the fuck up! 313 00:17:05,913 --> 00:17:08,093 And how does that manifest itself, 314 00:17:08,326 --> 00:17:10,566 the negativity you were just talking about? 315 00:17:14,819 --> 00:17:17,659 I have fights with my mum. 316 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,820 I drink. 317 00:17:21,299 --> 00:17:22,559 A lot. 318 00:17:22,639 --> 00:17:24,796 That's fairly common for a girl of your age. 319 00:17:24,853 --> 00:17:26,700 What are you? 18, 19? 320 00:17:27,086 --> 00:17:28,406 22. 321 00:17:29,687 --> 00:17:31,447 You look younger. 322 00:17:32,886 --> 00:17:34,760 I cut myself. 323 00:17:35,233 --> 00:17:36,770 Where? 324 00:17:37,513 --> 00:17:39,033 My arms. 325 00:17:40,859 --> 00:17:42,459 And my legs. 326 00:17:44,993 --> 00:17:46,620 That's not too bad. 327 00:17:46,833 --> 00:17:48,493 I've seen far worse. 328 00:17:48,653 --> 00:17:50,653 Does it hurt when you touch them? 329 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:53,300 A bit. 330 00:17:53,533 --> 00:17:54,840 May I? 331 00:17:54,999 --> 00:17:56,679 - Turn it off. - Listen. 332 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,243 Do you want to take your jeans off, 333 00:18:01,276 --> 00:18:02,960 just so I can see the leg? 334 00:18:04,650 --> 00:18:06,676 - Do I have to? - No. 335 00:18:07,049 --> 00:18:08,959 Not if you don't feel comfortable. 336 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,940 You can send me some pictures if you like. 337 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,180 Please, just turn it off. 338 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,180 I'll give you my private email address. 339 00:18:21,759 --> 00:18:24,420 I remember Ellie. Of course I do. 340 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,620 She was a client, briefly, 341 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,300 and then we became romantically involved. 342 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,980 It was unethical, yes, but it wasn't illegal. 343 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,100 Why did you take out a restraining order on her? 344 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:38,480 She was young and delusional. She became obsessed with me. 345 00:18:38,693 --> 00:18:40,577 She was estranged from her father 346 00:18:40,613 --> 00:18:42,280 and she saw me as some kind of... 347 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,640 Oh, Christ. 348 00:18:47,170 --> 00:18:48,680 It's you, isn't it? 349 00:18:50,073 --> 00:18:51,713 You're Ellie's dad. 350 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,260 I was. 351 00:18:55,306 --> 00:18:56,740 She's dead. 352 00:18:59,553 --> 00:19:01,330 I'm so sorry. 353 00:19:02,067 --> 00:19:04,760 I knew I was partly responsible for what happened. 354 00:19:04,883 --> 00:19:06,720 I drove her away. 355 00:19:08,093 --> 00:19:09,660 I was too strict, 356 00:19:09,950 --> 00:19:11,780 too mean about her mother. 357 00:19:12,793 --> 00:19:15,233 I could see that she was becoming withdrawn. 358 00:19:16,033 --> 00:19:18,300 I put some money in her account. 359 00:19:18,906 --> 00:19:20,866 "Go and see a therapist," I said. 360 00:19:24,513 --> 00:19:26,313 I failed my daughter. 361 00:19:28,306 --> 00:19:30,340 I made the wrong choice. 362 00:19:33,859 --> 00:19:37,159 Is that what you meant when you said you thought you'd killed someone? 363 00:19:38,406 --> 00:19:41,420 I want you to confess to everything you did to her. 364 00:19:42,439 --> 00:19:44,240 - What? - Everything. 365 00:19:44,382 --> 00:19:45,966 You got her hooked on drugs, 366 00:19:45,987 --> 00:19:48,020 you used her, abused her, and then you.. 367 00:19:48,206 --> 00:19:50,530 you dumped her when she became an inconvenience. 368 00:19:50,551 --> 00:19:53,060 No. No, no, no. I cared for her. 369 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,180 But as I said to the police at the time, 370 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,220 she had all these issues when she came to me. 371 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,780 I was in no way responsible for her death. 372 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,836 Really? So you didn't go and visit her in her room 373 00:20:01,856 --> 00:20:03,940 at the Metropole Hotel on the 15th of October, 374 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,760 breaking your own restraining order? 375 00:20:05,793 --> 00:20:06,880 No. 376 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,220 The coroner's report stated 377 00:20:11,940 --> 00:20:16,700 that she would have taken the overdose at approximately 3am 378 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:19,660 and that it would have taken... 379 00:20:22,273 --> 00:20:24,513 about three hours for her to die. 380 00:20:25,473 --> 00:20:27,213 A man matching your description 381 00:20:27,234 --> 00:20:29,076 was seen leaving the hotel 382 00:20:29,293 --> 00:20:31,100 at ten past four in the morning. 383 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,500 - Seen by who? - Never mind. 384 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,980 Whoever that was 385 00:20:34,170 --> 00:20:35,692 could have seen that she'd overdosed 386 00:20:35,713 --> 00:20:38,696 and could have saved her if they'd raised the alarm, but... 387 00:20:39,493 --> 00:20:40,649 No. 388 00:20:41,632 --> 00:20:44,380 I suppose it's the difference between killing... 389 00:20:44,990 --> 00:20:46,880 and letting die. 390 00:20:49,893 --> 00:20:51,813 I didn't do anything. 391 00:20:54,167 --> 00:20:55,807 Exactly. 392 00:21:00,053 --> 00:21:02,120 You write it all down. 393 00:21:02,453 --> 00:21:04,216 A full confession. 394 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:06,460 Sacrifice your job, 395 00:21:06,690 --> 00:21:08,543 this cosy little life you've built, 396 00:21:08,596 --> 00:21:09,976 and admit that you were there 397 00:21:09,997 --> 00:21:12,400 and that you were directly responsible for her death. 398 00:21:14,246 --> 00:21:16,926 And then my Ellie can rest in peace. 399 00:21:18,260 --> 00:21:19,660 OK. 400 00:21:20,806 --> 00:21:23,766 OK, I'll do it. I'll throw myself in front of the train. 401 00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:27,119 But I will need to... 402 00:21:41,169 --> 00:21:43,699 So the whole suicide story was made up? 403 00:21:45,023 --> 00:21:47,760 A desperate man with nothing left to live for. 404 00:21:48,793 --> 00:21:50,713 I knew it would get you on side. 405 00:21:52,099 --> 00:21:53,479 Clever. 406 00:21:53,739 --> 00:21:55,839 But one thing to bear in mind, Drew. 407 00:21:55,906 --> 00:21:58,306 If you're going to coerce someone with a spud gun... 408 00:21:59,233 --> 00:22:01,713 make sure you take the potato out of the barrel. 409 00:23:26,446 --> 00:23:27,740 Hello? 410 00:23:56,926 --> 00:23:59,920 This is one of the problems of living in the countryside, 411 00:24:00,147 --> 00:24:02,720 you're an easy target for burglars. 412 00:24:04,603 --> 00:24:07,580 "I came home early to find my house was being robbed 413 00:24:07,740 --> 00:24:09,820 "and I was viciously attacked. 414 00:24:11,547 --> 00:24:12,807 "He had a gun. 415 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,800 "At least, I thought it was a gun. 416 00:24:17,459 --> 00:24:19,023 "And so I hit him. 417 00:24:19,293 --> 00:24:20,420 "Hard. 418 00:24:22,906 --> 00:24:24,380 "I didn't mean to kill him. 419 00:24:24,443 --> 00:24:26,143 "It was self-defence, Officer." 420 00:24:26,183 --> 00:24:28,060 Is this how you make all your problems go away? 421 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,700 Well, what choice do I have? 422 00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:32,050 I can't have all that business with Ellie dredged up again. 423 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,782 I have my reputation to consider. 424 00:24:33,803 --> 00:24:36,190 So you came out here where no-one knows what you really are. 425 00:24:36,210 --> 00:24:38,643 Look, your daughter was the one who was hounding me. 426 00:24:38,663 --> 00:24:40,806 She made me feel unsafe. 427 00:24:41,546 --> 00:24:43,545 I have my son to think about. 428 00:24:43,670 --> 00:24:46,220 - Now, get on your knees. - No, please, Mr Chambers! 429 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,280 On your knees. 430 00:24:50,593 --> 00:24:52,653 If you kill me here now, there'll... 431 00:24:52,674 --> 00:24:54,734 there'll still be a police investigation. 432 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,960 I should have let you jump off that bridge when I had the chance. 433 00:25:00,413 --> 00:25:02,313 Actually, that's it, of course. 434 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:03,380 What? 435 00:25:03,823 --> 00:25:06,806 You said yourself 20 or 30 people saw you there tonight, 436 00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:09,260 looking longingly into the river. 437 00:25:09,316 --> 00:25:11,066 I should just take you back there. 438 00:25:11,113 --> 00:25:13,920 Me bringing you here was the side track. 439 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,403 I should have just let the train take its course. 440 00:25:16,436 --> 00:25:18,420 So you're just going to throw me into the water? 441 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,020 That's up to you. 442 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,200 You can go willingly or otherwise. 443 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:26,660 But I do think it's the best solution. 444 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,700 You could still do the right thing, Mr Chambers. 445 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,280 Father to father, I... 446 00:25:31,473 --> 00:25:33,173 I am begging you. 447 00:25:33,332 --> 00:25:34,940 Which is what? 448 00:25:35,986 --> 00:25:38,500 Confess to what you did to Ellie. 449 00:25:39,087 --> 00:25:40,820 There's still time. 450 00:25:41,306 --> 00:25:43,440 Don't let me die not knowing. 451 00:25:43,746 --> 00:25:45,146 Please. 452 00:25:45,673 --> 00:25:47,453 As I said before, 453 00:25:47,566 --> 00:25:50,140 I didn't do anything. 454 00:25:54,327 --> 00:25:55,800 OK. 455 00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:05,460 Get in! 456 00:26:08,653 --> 00:26:10,620 I've left my coat. 457 00:26:11,647 --> 00:26:13,247 For God's sake! 458 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,660 I won't go anywhere. 459 00:26:18,133 --> 00:26:20,120 Don't you move. 460 00:26:20,626 --> 00:26:22,266 Mr Chambers... 461 00:26:24,893 --> 00:26:26,193 when you get my coat, 462 00:26:26,233 --> 00:26:28,500 you should look in the right-hand pocket. 463 00:27:09,253 --> 00:27:10,780 Hello? 464 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,600 - Robbie? Is that you? - Dad! 465 00:27:14,139 --> 00:27:16,690 - Dad, please, I can't breathe. - What? 466 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,340 - You've got to help me. - Calm down. Where are you? 467 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:22,300 I don't know where I am. It's... It's dark. I'm in a box. 468 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,809 What do you mean, you're in a box? 469 00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:25,340 I think he's buried me somewhere. 470 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:26,950 Dad, please, please get me out. 471 00:27:26,970 --> 00:27:28,443 Robbie, calm down. Listen, 472 00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:30,113 tell me what's going on. 473 00:27:30,553 --> 00:27:32,530 He said you'd come get me. 474 00:27:32,590 --> 00:27:34,140 He said everything'd be fine. 475 00:27:34,199 --> 00:27:35,999 He said you'd do the right thing. 476 00:27:38,086 --> 00:27:39,766 Dad? Please. I... 477 00:27:41,266 --> 00:27:43,460 - I can't get out. - It's OK. 478 00:27:43,893 --> 00:27:46,473 It's OK. I'm going to find you! 479 00:27:46,699 --> 00:27:48,926 Please. Tell me where he is! 480 00:27:49,179 --> 00:27:50,599 Dad? Where are... 481 00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:52,403 - Where are you? - Don't do this to him, 482 00:27:52,426 --> 00:27:53,583 I beg you, please. 483 00:27:53,740 --> 00:27:55,543 Tell me where he is. I'll do anything. 484 00:27:55,603 --> 00:27:57,180 You made your choice. 485 00:27:57,953 --> 00:28:00,200 Now we're the same, you and I. 486 00:28:00,259 --> 00:28:02,323 Dad... I can't get out. 487 00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:04,120 - If you do this... - Dad! 488 00:28:04,153 --> 00:28:05,853 you're killing my son. 489 00:28:05,874 --> 00:28:08,139 Dad, help me. Please. 490 00:28:08,193 --> 00:28:09,753 I didn't kill him. 491 00:28:09,926 --> 00:28:11,306 I can't breathe. 492 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,240 I need to help me. 493 00:28:15,233 --> 00:28:16,893 Please, you've got to get me out. 494 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,340 You let him die. 495 00:28:18,361 --> 00:28:20,763 Help me, please, Dad! 496 00:28:21,043 --> 00:28:22,800 No! 497 00:28:28,726 --> 00:28:31,160 Where are you? What's going on? 498 00:28:32,770 --> 00:28:34,640 I can't get out, Dad. 499 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,123 Please, please! 500 00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:39,816 Help me, Dad. Please! 501 00:28:39,845 --> 00:28:40,962 Dad! 502 00:28:42,159 --> 00:28:47,216 www.subtitulamos.tv