1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,694 A breakthrough in DNA forensics has now formally linked 2 00:00:07,704 --> 00:00:11,550 the murders of Geraldine and Pauline to the murder of Sandra Newton. 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,830 in July 1973. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,571 So we are now actively trying to find 5 00:00:14,581 --> 00:00:16,110 and apprehend a serial killer. 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,310 Hello, Mr Willoughby. 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,910 We're trying to solve the murders of three young girls in 1973. 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,670 Can I arrange for my officers to collect a mouth swab from you? 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,950 No chance. 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,030 50% of the killer's DNA would have been passed on 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,830 to any children he may have had. 12 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,550 He has a distinctive genetic marker which also would have been 13 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,935 passed on to any offspring. 14 00:00:32,945 --> 00:00:34,310 - A marker? - A double allele. 15 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,110 My search could yield a shortlist of around about 50, say. 16 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,280 What do you think? Achievable? 17 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,000 *CREDITS* 18 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Thank you, Colin. 19 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,320 So, these 13 names. 20 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,950 - None of them could be our killer? - No. 21 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,270 But there is a very good chance that one of them could be 22 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,430 a close male relative of his. 23 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,510 - What about the swabbing programme? - That's on hold. 24 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,350 Our thinking is, if we can't find the killer 25 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,390 cos he's not on the database, 26 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,670 let's use his DNA to see if his relatives are. 27 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,910 And this is the fruits of your labour? 28 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:42,230 They all share a rare marker in the killer's DNA, a double allele. 29 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,470 That got you down to 13 names. 30 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,839 We've started with Willoughby. 31 00:02:46,849 --> 00:02:48,790 We're trying to build out his family tree. 32 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,230 Looking for a male relative that cropped up on your list. 33 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,270 And? 34 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,270 He has two sons, neither lives locally or is on the DNA database. 35 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,150 That's all we've got so far. 36 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,310 Shame we can't just grab his DNA. 37 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,750 Save a lot of faffing about. 38 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,230 We take it without a lawful pretext, the scientists won't touch it. 39 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,670 - Including Colin Dark? - Especially Colin Dark. 40 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,550 He has big but maybe valid concerns about DNA's image. 41 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,284 Doesn't want it seen as some sort of Big Brother tool. 42 00:03:15,294 --> 00:03:16,190 God forbid. 43 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,390 Then why's he pushing this familial thing? 44 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,960 Well, it's unorthodox, but it's not unlawful. 45 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,150 Look, Willoughby's still our prime suspect, 46 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,080 and I want to focus on these 13 names. 47 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,630 More family trees. 48 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:35,990 Yeah, but working backwards until we hit on a male relative 49 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,319 that fits our parameters. 50 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,160 A lot of shoe leather when there's only the three of you. 51 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,720 I hope you know what you're doing. 52 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Good luck. 53 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,830 Go on, then, spit it out. 54 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,390 Well, she's right. 55 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,840 There is only three of us. 56 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,350 There's must be another way to get to Willoughby. 57 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,190 - There has to be. - Phil. 58 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,750 I need you to have faith. 59 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,360 Stick to the plan, OK? 60 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,520 Going to get his lottery ticket as usual. 61 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,750 - You're very observant, Jan. - Nosy, you mean? 62 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,040 Observant. 63 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,840 Don't worry. It's his car. 64 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,230 Why doesn't he park it in front of his own house? 65 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,430 Only uses it once a week, I'd say. 66 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,070 Evenings. Tuesdays or Wednesdays. 67 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,270 Rest of the time, he walks. 68 00:04:58,280 --> 00:04:59,320 Really? 69 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,560 - Tuesdays or Wednesdays? - Mm-hm. 70 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,270 South Wales Constabulary have had some 71 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:14,430 tough questioning after it emerged that they've been co-operating with 72 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,160 a Dutch psychic in their ongoing inquiry into the Llandarcy murders. 73 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:22,550 Superintendent Ray Allen denies they're clutching at straws, 74 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,270 and says they are prepared to consider any information 75 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:27,280 that might lead them to the girls' killer. 76 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,590 The murderer is undoubtedly a teacher 77 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,430 or someone who instructs others. 78 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,470 He is someone... that keeps a strict timetable, 79 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,495 and he will strike again very soon 80 00:05:42,505 --> 00:05:45,510 but somewhere completely different. 81 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,720 Ya, in the city centre perhaps. 82 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,960 That's where we are, gentlemen. 83 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,350 That's what it's come to. 84 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,630 The press think they can do our job better than us. 85 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,510 Think we're short a psychic. 86 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,470 Two girls have died and this has become nothing but a bloody circus. 87 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,190 Right. 88 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,310 Let's show the bastards we're the ringmasters. 89 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,760 What's the plan, governor? 90 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,470 Well, we have to, er, retrace our footsteps. 91 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,150 Go back to the start. Re-interview all the key witnesses. 92 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,110 See if time has honed their recollections, 93 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,790 jogged a memory or two. 94 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,040 Suddenly the Dutch bloke don't sound so bad. 95 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,190 Right, you heard the man. 96 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,150 We go back to the start, every report, every statement, 97 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,110 we check, we double-check. 98 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,720 No stone left unturned. 99 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,230 Had you been to the Top Rank before? 100 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,440 With Pauline and Geraldine, I mean? 101 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,320 No. 102 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,190 She's been asked all this before. 103 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,640 I appreciate that, Mr Anwar. 104 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:07,150 Any other clubs? 105 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,030 She's 15, Mr Bethell. 106 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,110 She doesn't go to clubs, or hitch lifts or stop out late. 107 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,350 Understood. 108 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,630 That's why I fetched her home from the pub. 109 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,230 - And thank God I did! - And thank God you did, Mr Anwar. 110 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,950 Why'd you think she's got anything more to tell you? 111 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,840 She never even made it to the bus stop. 112 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,990 I can see your point. 113 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,590 Don't get me wrong. It's terrible, what happened. 114 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,030 My heart bleeds for those girls. 115 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,830 But I don't want my daughter dragged into this for no reason at all. 116 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,920 - It's not about being dragged... - Sita. 117 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,240 If there's nothing else, Mr Bethell. I'm sure you're a busy man. 118 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,600 We're going to do everything we can to find this man. 119 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,280 I promise you. 120 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,070 - You got a minute, Phil? - Aye. 121 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,390 Local intel, aka Jan Stiles, 122 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,630 says that Willoughby only uses his car once a week. 123 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,799 Tuesdays or Wednesdays. 124 00:08:14,809 --> 00:08:16,870 What? Are we going to nick him for that? 125 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,710 - Sounds like a long-standing arrangement to me. - Huh? 126 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,470 - Assignations, Phil, assignations. - Willoughby? 127 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,350 He's not exactly Brad Pitt, is he? 128 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,830 Well, if I'm right, another woman could mean another set of kids 129 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,470 and that would tie him with our 13. 130 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,950 - Bloody typical. - What? 131 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,360 Well, one rule for us and another for... 132 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,270 What happened to sticking to the plan? 133 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,630 Parking Willoughby and focusing on the 13 names? 134 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,070 Call it a two-pronged attack. 135 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,110 Well, I think Jackie would call it something else. 136 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,120 Go on. You want to finish that sentence? 137 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,520 You're exhausting. 138 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,070 South Wales Constabulary are facing 139 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,830 tough questioning after it emerged they've been 140 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,750 co-operating with a Dutch psychic in their ongoing inquiry 141 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,230 into the Llandarcy murders. 142 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,910 Superintendent Ray Allen denies that they're clutching at straws, 143 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,630 and says that they are prepared to consider any information 144 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,760 that might lead them to the girls' killer. 145 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,160 - Where are you from, Mr Croiset? - Holland. 146 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,034 I'm something of a household name there. 147 00:09:36,044 --> 00:09:37,190 Really? 148 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,470 I have astounded doctors and patients alike 149 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,990 with my psychic powers of diagnosis and healing. 150 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,030 - Not forgetting policemen, eh? - Indeed. 151 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,670 There's no beginning to your talents. 152 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:53,550 You're sceptical, Detective Bethell? 153 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:56,840 And you resent being my chauffeur for today. 154 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,000 It's OK. It's a free country. 155 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,430 Thank you for coming out. 156 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,990 Well? 157 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,470 Did he say if I'm going to make Chief Inspector? 158 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,680 Or are you going to get laid again this year? 159 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,439 You can run me home later if you want. 160 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,070 We're about to... erm... 161 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,560 Reach the spot where the girls were attacked. I know. 162 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,360 Their suffering has left a trace... 163 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:39,510 a residue... 164 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,920 which is as real to me as the toothpick in your fist. 165 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:35,510 He is aged 166 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,550 39 or 40. 167 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:44,150 He is... just under six feet tall, 168 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,240 heavily built... 169 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,670 with a broad mouth, brown hair 170 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:53,990 and a greying moustache. 171 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,440 He is... 172 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:02,360 a member of the local yacht club... 173 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,350 an exhibitionist who shows off by driving too fast. 174 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,440 His home... 175 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,750 is 15 miles north of here, 176 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,670 an isolated building surrounded by trees 177 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:23,990 and arrived at 178 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,840 through two iron gates. 179 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,840 Are you going to tell me or do I have to guess? 180 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,600 I spent the day driving around this so-called psychic... 181 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,030 from Holland. 182 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,190 Everyone treating him like some fucking VIP. 183 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,440 A psychic! 184 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,750 Some people think there's something in it. 185 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,160 Aye, gullible people. 186 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,190 Desperate people. 187 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,310 And he exploits them! 188 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,680 He sees them coming from a thousand yards, Ray Allen included. 189 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,830 It made me feel grubby watching him do his thing, 190 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,640 his fucking party piece, right where they died. 191 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,640 I'm putting in for a transfer. 192 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,560 Nothing can be worse than this. 193 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,430 I think that's a bad idea. 194 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,630 - What would you know about it? - Quite a lot, actually. 195 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,800 All we ever talk about is the job, or am I not supposed to listen? 196 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,630 You jump ship now, your card'll be marked. 197 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,240 It'll read as a disloyalty. 198 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,040 I'll take my chances. 199 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,120 And what about the murders? 200 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Geraldine and Pauline? 201 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,150 Is that supposed to make me feel bad? 202 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,590 Saying their names out loud? 203 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,880 Man's still out there, that's all I'm saying. 204 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,790 Oh, there he is. 205 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,350 - Hiya. - Hi. 206 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,120 - Oh, hello, Jackie. - I thought I'd pop by. 207 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,240 I'll go make some more tea. 208 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,040 Great, thanks, love. 209 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,680 Thank you. 210 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,680 I, erm, take it this isn't good news. 211 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,350 Sorry, Paul, looks like they're pulling the plug. 212 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,270 We'll know for certain by Friday. 213 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,070 What? It's a shock to me, too. 214 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,990 Everything's so bloody squeezed. 215 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,910 Three other inquires have gone down this week. 216 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,750 - What happened to mid-January? - No-one's sorrier than I am. 217 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,800 Well, I beg to fucking differ. 218 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,280 You've run out of money in case you hadn't noticed. 219 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,110 You're all over every aspect of this case except the budget. 220 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,880 All right, OK, erm... Erm... 221 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,590 Look, are you saying that if I tighten the purse strings 222 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,430 - going forward... - No, I'm not, Paul. 223 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,990 - You want a stay of execution, you need a result. - Well, I... 224 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,590 Not a promising line of inquiry, a result. 225 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,080 And you need it now. 226 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,360 Goodnight, Paul. 227 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,080 Jackie... 228 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,800 I need to know something. 229 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,990 I need to know that you fought our corner 230 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,280 as hard as you possibly could. 231 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,080 I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that. 232 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,840 Ta. 233 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,160 I'm sorry. 234 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,200 Seems mad to stop now when you're up and running. 235 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:19,520 Tell me about it. 236 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,560 I knew it'd end up like this. 237 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,950 Knew we'd never get him. 238 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,600 All that time and effort... 239 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,120 Jesus. 240 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:37,960 You what? 241 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Nothing. 242 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,070 Talk to me. 243 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,950 I'm fine. 244 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,430 Well, that's not going to cut it. 245 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,070 That's not much better than "No comment". 246 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,600 Like you say... 247 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,160 it's hard to take... 248 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,160 that it was all for nothing. 249 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,110 Karina, look, I know I haven't appreciated you. 250 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:09,160 I didn't want appreciation, Paul. 251 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,280 You never got that. 252 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,520 I wanted... partnership. 253 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,110 Look, this isn't the time. 254 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:26,270 With respect, I disagree. 255 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,910 I think it's the perfect time. 256 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,070 For one night only. 257 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,400 Come on. 258 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,720 You were talking partnership. 259 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,960 No, I wasn't. 260 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,920 I knew the job came first. I got that. 261 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,600 And when we had Kelly, I knew it wouldn't really make a difference. 262 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,910 But then when the triplets came along... 263 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,870 I took a week off when the triplets came along! 264 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,750 You took a weekend off, Paul. 265 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,680 But anyway, that's not the point. 266 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,630 All we ever talked about at home was... 267 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,310 jobs and villains and the boys. 268 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,310 There you go. 269 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,560 I did include you. 270 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,160 No, you didn't. 271 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,600 I was just there, in the room. 272 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,080 When the boys came round on your days off... 273 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,720 putting the kettle on was the extent of my involvement. 274 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,550 You'd go into the other room and close the door 275 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,920 and whisper for hours. 276 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,630 And I knew I could never be a part of those conversations, 277 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,390 of course I couldn't. 278 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,480 But it wasn't that, it wasn't that that got to me. It was... 279 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,480 the way you excluded me. 280 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,120 Your cold manner... 281 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,120 like I didn't exist. 282 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,160 I'm sorry. 283 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,800 You didn't even know you were doing it. 284 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,520 It was just disappointing... 285 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,360 because we were always so tight... 286 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,880 such a duo... 287 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,880 such a unit. 288 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,120 Well, you asked. 289 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,360 Yeah, I did. 290 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,790 - Looks like you need another one, partner. - No. 291 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,960 My round. 292 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,350 You going to call Phil and Geraint? 293 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:22,320 Er, no. 294 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,640 No, I don't want to spoil their evening. 295 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,750 Blimey! That's a first. 296 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,270 You two in before me. 297 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,670 It's nowhere near a first. 298 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,150 Hey, we might have found something. 299 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,110 We had a good look at Colin's list. 300 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:54,430 Ran down close male relatives, just like we did with Willoughby. 301 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,870 - And? - Paul Kappen, 26. 302 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,070 On the DNA database after a conviction for petty theft. 303 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,750 Paul is the son of Joseph Kappen, who appears on our long list. 304 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,070 - Have we taken his DNA? - No. 305 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,950 But Joseph was interviewed in 1973 306 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,950 and his car was taped by South Wales's finest. 307 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:18,639 Look which bugger signed off on the hair and fibres report. 308 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,950 Jesus Christ... 309 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,670 The interview with Kappen was carried out by a DS Vic Jenkins. 310 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,390 Jenkins? I remember Jenkins. 311 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,470 Cover sheet says that Kappen's car was up on bricks 312 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,230 on the night of the murder. 313 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,590 Ring any bells? 314 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,190 Not to me. 315 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,240 Me neither. 316 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,830 Hang on, that cover sheet... 317 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,470 What about the interview with Kappen? 318 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,390 If it was typed up, it's missing from the file. 319 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,880 Just says he was alibied by his wife, Christine. 320 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,600 I'll check to see if Kappen's at the same address. 321 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,390 I wonder if Jenkins is still with us. 322 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,160 The old bastard might give us some intel. 323 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,720 Look what the bloody cat dragged in. 324 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,190 Still can't knot your tie, Bethell. 325 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,790 Hello, sir. Yeah. 326 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,040 Vic, old habits. 327 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,670 - This isn't a social call, is it? - No. 328 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,320 Well, you'd better come in, then. 329 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,360 Over on the Sandfields, wasn't he, Joe Kappen? 330 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,070 To be honest, we don't remember him. 331 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,480 Oh, I do. 332 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,110 Right, rinse and repeat. 333 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:58,320 I'll get his statement. You do the car. 334 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,790 Hi, good morning there. 335 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,110 We're doing some inquiries into the Llandarcy murders. 336 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,080 Do you mind if we have a look at your car? 337 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,720 Catch! 338 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,720 Joe's in the garden. 339 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,840 Can you fetch him in, Mrs Kappen? 340 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,070 - Everything all right? - Yeah. 341 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,310 Yeah. He just doesn't like to be disturbed, that's all. 342 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,600 Mmm. 343 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,280 Detective Sergeant Jenkins. 344 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,630 We need to have a little chat, Joe, 345 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,240 about those two girls that were killed in Llandarcy. 346 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,560 Put the kettle on, Christine. 347 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,880 Yeah. 348 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,710 If that falls, you're footing the bill, mind. 349 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,240 They know what they're doing. 350 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,880 Doesn't look like it. 351 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,080 So, why's it up on bricks, then? 352 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,670 Er... 353 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,040 I'm stripping the brakes. 354 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,670 Sit down if you want. 355 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,190 And how long's it been like that? 356 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,360 Up on the bricks? 357 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,430 Must be over a month, six weeks. 358 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,560 Christine? 359 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,680 That's right, isn't it? Six weeks? 360 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,630 Yeah. 361 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,440 Yeah, sounds about right. 362 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,590 What's the big interest in 1100s, then? 363 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,630 Who says we're interested in 1100s, Joe? 364 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,950 Dave Hoag. 365 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,120 He said that you were crawling all over his Austin first thing. 366 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,150 Got a witness or something? 367 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,430 - Strange question. - Stands to reason. 368 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,190 Next door has a Capri. 369 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,190 Next but one, a Cortina. 370 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,640 You're not bothering them, are you? 371 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720 Where were you the night of Saturday, 15th of September? 372 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,520 We had a quiet one, didn't we? 373 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,480 Yeah. That's right. 374 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,160 Sat on that very settee, weren't we? 375 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,200 We were. 376 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,519 Doing what, if you don't mind me asking? 377 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,440 We were watching telly. 378 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,830 I see. 379 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,750 Any programmes in particular? 380 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,040 Oh, she's the one with the memory. 381 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,280 Erm... 382 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,070 It was The Generation Game. 383 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Ah, and then Columbo. 384 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,150 And then the highlights on Match Of The Day. 385 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,800 But don't ask me who was playing. 386 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,550 Man United versus Everton. 387 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,790 I couldn't tell you the score, though. 388 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,920 I'd had a few, truth be told. 389 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,670 Do you follow football, Mr Jenkins? 390 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,880 Nah. More of a rugby man myself. 391 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,590 Well, er, if you need, erm, oh, what is it? Not an alibi, a... 392 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,070 Corroboration. 393 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,350 corroboration on the car, ask Dale in number 9. 394 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:19,360 - Who's that, then? - Well, he leant me the bricks. 395 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,590 Well, thank you both for your time. 396 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,760 Pleasure. 397 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Thank you. 398 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,560 Right, we're off. Give her back the keys. 399 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,400 Thank you, Mrs Kappen. 400 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,630 He was odd. 401 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,710 First impression was... 402 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,790 wrong'un. 403 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,510 By the time I left, I thought he was OK, 404 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,710 like the normal way of sizing a bloke up didn't work on him, 405 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,270 didn't apply. 406 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,070 Is that why he stuck in your memory, do you think? 407 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,120 Maybe. 408 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,810 Your request that uniform follow up 409 00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:31,910 on the bricks is in the file. 410 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,160 - Yeah. - But if they did, there's no record of it. 411 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,630 - Really? - Didn't you think to check? 412 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,438 - I mean, first impressions count, and you said yourself... - Hang on. 413 00:28:41,448 --> 00:28:44,070 - you thought you had a bad feeling. - Hang on, wait a minute! 414 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,430 We had 200 suspects to process, or have you forgotten? 415 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,030 - We haven't, we really haven't. - I actioned a follow-up, didn't I? 416 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,430 - Yes, you did, Vic. - You action a follow-up, you assume it's happened. 417 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,720 You hear nothing back, no news is good news, nothing to see here. 418 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,360 Right on all counts. I apologise. 419 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,750 Detective Inspector, eh? 420 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,960 You were always a pain in the arse, Bethell... 421 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,239 but the type who seemed destined for great things. 422 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,960 What happened? 423 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,680 Ask me an easy one. 424 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,950 What about his wife? Any lingering impressions? 425 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,030 Just her reluctance to fetch him in from the garden. 426 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,230 What, so she was scared of him? 427 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,120 And surprise, surprise, she gives him an alibi. 428 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,710 Things were different then, as you well know. 429 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,270 A wife's word was enough. 430 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,110 Yeah, we're hearing that a lot at the moment - 431 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,070 - "Things were different then." - "They were different times." 432 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,200 They were. 433 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,560 Better times, too. 434 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,350 Let me know what Kappen has to say. 435 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,680 A phone call will do. 436 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,640 Once a prick, always a prick, eh? 437 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,560 Bastard. 438 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,960 Not now, Ger. 439 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,200 Christine Kappen? 440 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,390 Who wants to know? 441 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,600 Oh, sorry, er... 442 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,790 DI Paul Bethell. 443 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,000 Is Joseph in? 444 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,070 - Joseph? - Yeah. 445 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,520 We'd like a word, if that's all right. 446 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,760 Joe's dead. 447 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,150 Er, when? 448 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,710 June '91. 449 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,920 No, sorry, '90. 450 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,920 We weren't together then. 451 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,320 Er, do you mind if we come in? 452 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,600 Suppose. 453 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,630 So, back in '73, 454 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,910 you gave Joe an alibi for the night of the girls' murders. 455 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,120 Do you stand by that, Christine? 456 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,950 Yes. 457 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,280 Yes, I do. 458 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,230 Now, you won't be in any trouble if you want to... 459 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,390 you want to retract it. 460 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,270 I don't. 461 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,110 Sure? 462 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,320 Joe and I were watching telly by there. 463 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,840 OK. 464 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,670 You said that, er, you and Joe had split up. 465 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,990 When was that, Christine? 466 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,670 1980. 467 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,990 He left me for another woman, so I divorced him. 468 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,870 And, erm, how old were the children then? 469 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,240 My eldest was just 16, so Paul must've been 14. 470 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,280 This DNA business... 471 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,080 I thought you had to... 472 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,630 Don't you need someone's blood or hair or something? 473 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,710 Yeah, that's right. 474 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,600 How did you get hold of Joe's? 475 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,950 We didn't. 476 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,070 It's, erm, your son Paul's DNA. 477 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,870 - Paul? - That's what led us here. 478 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,560 Erm, it's very similar to the killer's. 479 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,950 You mean... 480 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,440 if Paul hadn't been bloody stupid and taken what wasn't his... 481 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,590 this wouldn't be happening? 482 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,320 That's about the size of it, yeah. 483 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,640 "Very similar?" 484 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,150 Does anyone else...? I mean, 485 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,670 do other people have DNA that's "very similar" to this man? 486 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,760 They do. 487 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,360 But not many. 488 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,790 Her alibi and car-on-bricks story are definitely bullshit. 489 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,710 Proving it's another matter. 490 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,030 I called Colin Dark. 491 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,470 Told him to focus on Paul Kappen's DNA. 492 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,670 He's going to run a direct comparison with the killer. 493 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,270 All right. Good. What about the file? 494 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,990 - Anything here? - Maybe. 495 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,510 Kappen's name was first introduced cos he had an Austin, 496 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,750 but also because a local constable named Elwyn 497 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,160 said he was worth a look. 498 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,000 Here. 499 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,110 I always used to find kids picking their teeth out of the gutter. 500 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,910 I'd say, "What happened, mate?" 501 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,070 I already knew the answer. 502 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,310 Joe had clocked them? 503 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,360 Yeah. He was a bouncer. 504 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,350 First at Dusty's, then the Roxy. 505 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,470 When you say "kids", you mean lads? 506 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,830 Mmm, yeah. 507 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,390 So why did you think of him for Pauline and Geraldine? 508 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,150 The queue for the Roxy went right round the block, you know? 509 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,110 Joe'd come out chatting up the girls like it was part of his job. 510 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,510 The younger, the better. 511 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,790 When you say "picking their teeth out of the gutter", 512 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,310 you're exaggerating, right? 513 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,310 A bit, yeah. 514 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,910 Maybe tooth, singular. 515 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,630 Of course, his speciality was a right-fist uppercut to the jaw. 516 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,590 Traffic stop on Ferry Road, 1st of September 1973. 517 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,390 Austin 1100, light blue finish, 518 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:32,030 ARW770B, driver and registered keeper, Joseph Kappen. 519 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,030 - You are kidding? - A week after the murders. 520 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,470 So much for being up on bricks. 521 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,790 Right, he's coming into focus now. 522 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,950 The parents of both girls 523 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,310 said that they'd never get into a car with a stranger. 524 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,630 So maybe they were right. 525 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,790 They knew him? 526 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,670 They knew of him, I reckon. 527 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,390 Kappen was working part-time as a bus driver 528 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,030 for Green Line Transport. 529 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,750 Familiar face, respectable job. 530 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,830 He offers them a lift, they're not going to say no. 531 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,070 Ah! How was former constable Elwyn? 532 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,470 Alive and kicking. 533 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,470 Says Kappen used to beat up the kids he'd chuck out the Roxy. 534 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,030 Learned to spot his handiwork, a right uppercut to the jaw. 535 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,590 Here, same bruising on Pauline and Geraldine, 536 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,920 just where a right uppercut would leave its mark. 537 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,160 Christ, he really was a monster. 538 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,350 What that shows us is that Joe was still driving his 1100 539 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,120 a week after the murders. 540 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,350 See, I reckon he got the car up on the bricks 541 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,600 after the papers said we got a cast of the killer's tyres. 542 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,310 It was good prop - it worked. 543 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,870 But he needed you to back him up, 544 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,910 to lie for him. 545 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,080 And you did. 546 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,240 You're not in trouble, Christine. 547 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,840 You just have to tell the truth now. 548 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,390 He can't hurt you now. 549 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,270 Why? 550 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,720 Because he's dead? 551 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,360 You think that makes a difference... 552 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,360 after what I went through... 553 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,760 what he did to me? 554 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,910 When I turn out the lights, he's there. 555 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,240 When I come in from the shops, he's waiting for me. 556 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,760 I'm sorry, Christine. 557 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,950 If you want us to come back later, we can. 558 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,190 I, erm... I hate to be so pedantic at a time like this. 559 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:51,160 But, erm, there are things we need clear answers to. 560 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,520 OK. 561 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,710 Did he ask you to lie about the car being up on bricks 562 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:07,320 on Saturday the 15th of September 1973? 563 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,080 Yes. 564 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,070 You told us that you and Joe spent that night 565 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,110 watching television together. 566 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,710 Was that true? 567 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:21,910 No. 568 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,520 Did he ask you to provide a false alibi? 569 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,320 Yes. 570 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,600 Christine, we'll need your DNA. 571 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,310 We need to subtract it from your son Paul's. 572 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,950 I don't understand. 573 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,310 Well, it'll give us a closer approximation of Joe's DNA. 574 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,070 And in turn, that'll give us a better idea 575 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,360 whether he's the killer. 576 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,590 I'm sorry to speak so cold and scientifically 577 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,200 over something so personal. 578 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,470 Would that be OK, Christine? 579 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,760 To take your DNA? 580 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,160 Yes. 581 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,920 Can I be honest with you, Miss Anwar? 582 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,640 You have nine O-levels, five of them As. 583 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,870 I'm surprised factory work or, indeed, hotel work 584 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,870 is of any interest to you. 585 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,070 You sound like my dad. 586 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,070 He wanted me to do A-levels, just like him. 587 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,400 And why didn't you? 588 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,470 I don't know. 589 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,840 Well, that's not much of an answer. 590 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,000 I just want a normal job. 591 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,950 Not have to think too much about... everything. 592 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,950 And by "everything", you mean the future? 593 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,960 Are you going to give me this job or what? 594 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,760 Can you make a bed? Empty a bin? 595 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,480 'Course I can. 596 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:00,880 Sir? 597 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,360 Can you, er, gather the team together? 598 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,000 _ 599 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,200 I have some bad news. 600 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:01,840 I can only imagine how, erm... 601 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,310 disappointing, how... crushing... 602 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,440 this will be after all your hard work. 603 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,630 But nine months in, 604 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,480 with no new active leads... 605 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,840 we have no option but to, erm... 606 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,520 wind down the inquiry... 607 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,000 as of now. 608 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,760 I'm so sorry, lads. 609 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,750 South Wales Constabulary has today revealed that after a year, 610 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,750 the investigation into the double murders of Pauline Floyd 611 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,830 and Geraldine Hughes has been wound down. 612 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,870 Despite mounting an inquiry of an unprecedented scale, 613 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,310 police have said they are no nearer to catching the killer, 614 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,959 and are therefore making the difficult decision... 615 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,150 I need you to collect some glasses, Sita. 616 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,600 Got a bunch of coppers in. Some sort of do. 617 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,919 Six, five, four, three, two, one! 618 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,520 They think it's all over! It is now! 619 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,110 Colin. 620 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,550 Hi, Paul. 621 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,600 Yes, this, erm, chap, Joseph Kappen, he's interesting. 622 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:42,350 OK? 623 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,030 Well, perhaps I should rephrase that. 624 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,560 He's very interesting. 625 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,030 So I, er, pushed Colin for a number. 626 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,830 He grumbled, obviously, and then he said 75 % - 627 00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:00,270 as in, there's a 75 % DNA match between our killer 628 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,950 and our approximation to Kappen's DNA. 629 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,830 Which you arrived at via his kids? 630 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,030 Yeah, but it's not definitive. 631 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,350 75 %? 632 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,030 And that's before we factor in him owning an 1100 633 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,230 and living in the area. 634 00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,550 75 % is bloody good, Paul. 635 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,120 75 % is a win. 636 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,200 Come on. 637 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,720 You know he did it, I know he did it. 638 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,270 We don't know, Jackie. It's an approximation, 639 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,400 on top of the fact that he escaped justice. 640 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,710 When we send someone away, how often do we know? 641 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,880 I mean for sure, 100 %. 642 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,040 Almost never. 643 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,200 Oh, you're right. 644 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,590 It's a result. 645 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,920 It's a win. 646 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,720 Joseph Kappen. 647 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:13,080 I think most people called him Joe. 648 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,160 - A local man? - Yeah. 649 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,040 Never heard the name. 650 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,600 Still, I suppose if the scientists are saying 75 %, then, er... 651 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,870 they must know what they're talking about? 652 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,110 Well, they do. They most certainly do. 653 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,990 A week after Geraldine died, 654 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,350 two of your colleagues called round - 655 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,630 "Put the kettle on, Mrs Hughes, we need to speak with your husband." 656 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,320 But Denver wasn't here. 657 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,150 So they came in and sat down right there just where you are now. 658 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,950 One of them had a plastic bag, and he put it on the table, 659 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,550 pushed it across and said, 660 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,600 "Could you just confirm that these are Geraldine's clothes?" 661 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,870 I put my hand inside, 662 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,550 and I didn't know what I was looking at 663 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,390 because they didn't look like clothes. 664 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,440 They were muddy and... 665 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,440 torn... 666 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,400 and covered in grass and twigs... 667 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,080 and stains. 668 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,080 Purple stains. And, er... 669 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,390 I was shaking, and I-I could barely get my words out. 670 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,030 But I asked them, "Is that her blood? 671 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,240 "Is that my Geraldine's blood?" 672 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,920 And they said... 673 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,040 "Yes, I'm afraid it is." 674 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:53,880 Just matter of fact, like... 675 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,480 it was just some unfortunate thing and that... 676 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,720 there was nothing to be done. 677 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,270 Thank you for your visit, Mr Bethell. 678 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,360 Thank you. 679 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,400 Of course. 680 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,200 You should go be with her, Denver. 681 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,080 Times like these, she likes to be alone, with her photos and so on. 682 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,240 You were kind to me that day... 683 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,080 running me home, and the way you talked to me, you know? 684 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,920 I'd seen something that no father should ever see. 685 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,040 The world stopped for me in that wood. 686 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,080 Just stopped. 687 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,240 And then I, er... 688 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,680 I had to tell her mother. 689 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,200 You want to ask me something, Denver? 690 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,880 No. I-I... 691 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,240 Yeah, I-I... 692 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,920 I don't know. I just... 693 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,680 The girls were fully dressed but a 100 yards apart. 694 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,470 And somebody said that Geraldine probably escaped, 695 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:03,150 broke free and almost made it home... 696 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,800 but that she tripped. 697 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,440 A branch, a root, or she just lost her footing. 698 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,910 That image, it flashed through my mind so many times... 699 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,440 the hope in her eyes. 700 00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:30,360 Or... have I got it wrong? 701 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,830 Tell me. 702 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,950 You were there the next morning. 703 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,470 You know how to read these things. Is... 704 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,990 Is that what happened, Paul? 705 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,720 I can't tell you, Denver. 706 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,320 Not with any certainty. 707 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,200 And even if I did know... 708 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,480 what would it achieve? 709 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,320 I'd... I'd know, Paul, I'd know. 710 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,560 I mean, the truth can't be worse than my own fears. 711 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,150 Looking at where she was found, 712 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,430 it's likely that Geraldine probably did get away... 713 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,310 No, right, right, right. 714 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,520 Stop. 715 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,310 Sorry. 716 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,480 Stop. 717 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,440 Thank you. 718 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,150 What about, erm, Pauline's parents? 719 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,310 Have they been informed? 720 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,430 Yes, we're keeping them in close contact. 721 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,480 Right. 722 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,600 "If only." 723 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,160 The most dangerous words in the English language. 724 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,190 If only we'd told her to stop in that night, 725 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,230 and if only I'd gone to fetch her... 726 00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:06,950 One man is responsible for what happened, Denver. 727 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,120 One man. 728 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,310 She won't like it, 729 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,590 not knowing for sure about Kappen. 730 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,640 And neither do I, if I'm honest. 731 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,710 I understand. 732 00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:24,950 Go on. 733 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,680 Go and keep an eye on Jean. 734 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,120 Thank you for everything you've done for us over the years. 735 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,390 Mr Bethell, Sita Anwar. 736 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,520 Hello, Sita. 737 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,760 Er, you can get off, Phil. 738 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,550 Do you remember me? 739 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,270 Yes. 740 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,320 But not fondly? 741 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,080 You hid in your office the other day to try and avoid me. 742 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,430 Can I get you a coffee? 743 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,790 It's not the first time you turned your back on me. 744 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,830 No. The CID drink-up. 745 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,480 Celebration, you mean. 746 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:44,520 It's this fucking party. 747 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,270 What did you have to celebrate? 748 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,920 You didn't find the bloke! 749 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,030 The one thing you were supposed to do... 750 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,440 you hadn't done. 751 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,800 - There you go. - Thank you. 752 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,920 I didn't come here to berate you or give you a hard time. 753 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,480 So why did you come? 754 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,760 Ah, I don't know. 755 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,790 I can't talk to my husband, I can't talk to my daughter. 756 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,790 Why not? 757 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,440 Why can't you talk to them, Sita? 758 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,720 Because... 759 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,390 Pauline and Geraldine never had that... 760 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,310 family, children, someone to share their life with. 761 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,920 They missed out on everything. 762 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,040 Right, so you, erm... 763 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,630 You feel guilt about that, then? 764 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,520 Yeah, I feel guilt that I left them, yes. 765 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,470 But you didn't leave them. 766 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,200 - Your dad found you and took you home. - No, I left them. 767 00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:09,520 I-I left them. 768 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,750 Can I tell you something, Sita, 769 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,670 in confidence? 770 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:19,960 Of course. 771 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,080 We have a very strong suspect for the murders... 772 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,150 who passed away in 1990. 773 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,120 Now, I can't tell you his name... 774 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,550 but his DNA 775 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,600 is a 75 % match to the killer's. 776 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,320 - 75 %? - Yeah. 777 00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:45,830 Well, that's a big margin of error, 778 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,790 a 25 % chance the killer's still out there. 779 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,990 I wouldn't put it quite like... 780 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,990 You happy with that, are you? 781 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,200 Is that good enough? 782 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,430 Or was this just a "Seen to be done" thing from the off? 783 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,920 Best endeavours so everyone can sleep at night? 784 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,360 Sorry. 785 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,430 Sorry. 786 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,280 It sounds like you've made a real breakthrough. 787 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,750 No, you were right the first time, actually. 788 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,879 It's not good enough. 789 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,510 Hi. 790 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:37,190 What do I need to be 100 % certain it's him, Colin? 791 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,710 And a very good evening to you, Paul. 792 00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:42,640 Erm, a femur... or a tooth. 793 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,040 I need Kappen. 794 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:48,000 *CREDITS*