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Are we saying
that we think this was Hume?

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Worst case, maybe three months.

3
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- Which is not enough.
- Gatwick?

4
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They said you were
a person of interest in a murder.

5
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'If you could present yourself
at Bishop Street.'

6
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Help! Help!

7
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Armed police!

8
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I'm not Joseph Bell.
I'm Joe's half-brother.

9
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- I need a break.
- I'm sorry, my love.

10
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Steve, are you in there?

11
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The first company that Hume
worked for was the same company

12
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that Ebele Falade walked into
with an air pistol.

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She was shouting,

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"I wanna speak to my dad,
Tony bloody Hume."

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Did the caller say
who the body was?

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A young man named Joseph Bell.

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*CREDITS*

18
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And it is male?

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Looking at the brow ridge,
the mastoid process, I'd say yes.

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- And young.
- Anything else jumping out?

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Aside from the two
bullet-shaped holes in his skull?

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Apart from them.

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- Not yet.
- This level of decomposition,

24
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might that suggest how long
he's been here for, roughly?

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If you mean could it
have been around the same time

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as Precious Falade was killed,
then, yes, it's not inconsistent.

27
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OK. Thanks, Leanne.

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DNA sample as soon as soon as,
please.

29
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So, we need to speak
to the letting agency,

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- get a list of everyone who's lived
here over the last ten years. - Boss.

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And Anthony Hume...

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what have we not yet done
to place him

33
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at the scene of Precious's murder?

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- If he was there.
- He was there.

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All suggestions gratefully received.

36
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I'll message the team.

37
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Anthony Hume?

38
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Yes?

39
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So...

40
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Wojski takes 2K out of his savings

41
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on the 27th, in cash,

42
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puts them right back in
on the 28th.

43
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So, what did he do
to get his laptop back,

44
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without handing any money over?

45
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Exactly.

46
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We have nothing to say to you.

47
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So whichever tawdry rag
your working for,

48
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you're wasting your time.

49
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I'm his daughter.

50
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What kind of messed up power game
is this, Steve?

51
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It's no power game.
I just want to talk.

52
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So we do it on the phone.
You don't just turn up here.

53
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- You left this house, remember?
- I'm sorry.

54
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And FYI, any phone call's
going to be relatively brief,

55
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on account of the fact
you screwed my sister.

56
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- Except I didn't.
- What?

57
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I did kiss her, once.

58
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Which itself is unforgivable,
I know, but...

59
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we never slept together.
It was more of an emotional thing.

60
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So, my sister is telling me a lie
that makes her look worse?

61
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Your sister has a lot of issues.
I think we know this.

62
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Look, Jess, I messed up, massively,
and I'm incredibly sorry for that.

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But I felt that you'd abandoned me,
and I wanted you to hurt like I did,

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which is why I said
I wanted to leave.

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But now I've calmed down a bit,
and...

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I know I don't.

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I don't think I believe a word
you just said.

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Jess, please,
I swear it's the truth.

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Jess! Can we at least talk tonight?

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I found out on my 18th birthday
and contacted him when I was 23.

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I'm now 59.

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And what sort of a relationship
have you had with him in that time?

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In the multiple decades
he's lied to you, you mean?

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- Yes.
- Almost entirely financial.

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- He's given you money?
- Reparation.

76
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Yes.

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So can I ask what it is
you came here for?

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Well, obviously to see him.

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There were things
that I wanted to say

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before it became impossible.

81
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But I can see
that I am already too late,

82
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so maybe you can pass on a message.

83
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Can you tell him, please...

84
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that I loathe him?

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That I have always loathed him.

86
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- And I always will.
- Right.

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But for all your loathing,
you still obviously took his money.

88
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And there we are.

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You screwed multiple generations
of my family over,

90
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and then think it's OK
because I got some money?

91
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I didn't screw any one over.

92
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Maybe not... as directly as him.

93
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But your privilege,
your comfort, your happiness,

94
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this house, in fact,

95
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were all built on the bones
of people like me.

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- Weren't they?
- I'd like you to leave now, please.

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You knew what he did, didn't you?

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You knew the policies
that he espoused for decades.

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You knew the millions of lives
that it ruined.

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Mine included.

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And you did nothing.

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You just looked the other way.

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So I didn't really come
to speak to you.

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But now I'm here...

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fuck you, too.

106
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I loathe the pair of you.

107
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So, what I really need is a list
of all of the ground-floor tenants

108
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from the past ten years.

109
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Now, I realise
that might take a while,

110
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so can you start by telling me

111
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who the tenant was
in July 2016, please?

112
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And that was from when to when?

113
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OK. A list of other tenants
would be very useful.

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You've been very helpful.

115
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- Thank you very much.
- Yes! Thank you, God.

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So, the tenant of the garden flat
from May 2015 to August 2016

117
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was Ebele Falade.

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The body,
discovered buried in the garden

119
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of a flat in Greenford,

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is believed to be connected
to the recent discovery of remains

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found in a house in Hammersmith.

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Police investigators
on the scene...

123
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Local authorities
were dealing with huge cuts,

124
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and we were all basically
doing the jobs of two people.

125
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So you were perma exhausted.

126
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Multiple 12-hour days,

127
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and from dealing, day in, day out,
with people who had been...

128
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abandoned.

129
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People who were angry
and in constant crisis.

130
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People who blamed you.

131
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And over a sustained period,
that really began to take its toll.

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I was living on my own
at this point,

133
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and I'd started to feel
very isolated, very low.

134
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And I-I just started to fixate
on some...

135
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on some really bad thoughts.

136
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About women and...

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taking certain sorts of photos...

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of them...

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in public.

140
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And then in late 2015,
I was attacked on the street.

141
00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,920
And then in February 2016,
outside my synagogue.

142
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And it was about a week
after the second attack

143
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that I took my first photo.

144
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- On the tube.
- You think the two are connected?

145
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No.

146
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Well, maybe. I don't know.

147
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I'm certainly not trying
to offer it up as an excuse.

148
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I'm just saying, you grow up
being made to feel different.

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When we first moved to UK,
all through school

150
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then actually being physically
attacked for being different.

151
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And it can affect you.

152
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Make you do bad shit.

153
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And these photos, they...

154
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made you feel, what, better or...?

155
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In the moment, maybe, but...

156
00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,680
in the long term,
they made me feel much worse.

157
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But you carried on taking them,
Karol.

158
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Eventually even taking them at work.

159
00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,240
- Yeah.
- Why?

160
00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,560
Why do any of us do things
we know are wrong?

161
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Because that momentary relief
is better than nothing.

162
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I'd like, if I may, to take you back
to the 26th of June 2016.

163
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Er, which was the day
that you visited Precious Falade

164
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in a house in Hammersmith.

165
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And it was also the last time
you ever saw her,

166
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according to your statement
when we spoke in Paris.

167
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Yeah.

168
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And was this also the day that you
accidentally left your laptop there?

169
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You should assume
we know everything, Karol.

170
00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:11,000
- Yeah.
- And on that laptop,

171
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she found a number
of your upskirting photos

172
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and tried to blackmail you for them.

173
00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,680
- Yeah.
- For £2,000?

174
00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,280
Yeah.

175
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Showing the suspect exhibit KW01,

176
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a bank statement belonging to him.

177
00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:31,480
And if you have a look at the
highlighted entries there, Karol,

178
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you can see that you did in fact

179
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withdraw 2,000, in cash,
on the 27th.

180
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But then, just below that entry,

181
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you deposited the exact same amount
again in cash

182
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into the same account on the 28th.

183
00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,200
Which suggests to me
that you never paid her the money.

184
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I didn't.

185
00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,640
So, could you tell us, then, please,

186
00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:58,160
how you did manage
to get your laptop back?

187
00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,120
Can I, erm... drop these off
for a patient, please?

188
00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,320
What ward?
Erm...

189
00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,640
I dunno,
but her name's Sophie Coulson.

190
00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:27,960
She hit her head and...

191
00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,560
Just tell her I'm sorry, yeah?

192
00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,080
The first thing I noticed
as I walked up the drive way

193
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was that there was a car
parked up outside.

194
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OK, and this was the day after
you say you last saw her?

195
00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:45,080
- Yeah.
- So, you went in?

196
00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,480
- Yeah.
- And what happened then?

197
00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,560
Well, I couldn't see anyone,
so I called out her name.

198
00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,920
No-one answered,
so I walked straight ahead

199
00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,280
into the sitting room,
where we'd met the day before.

200
00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,600
The floor was wet.

201
00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,160
Like, all over.

202
00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,720
Like someone had just mopped it.
But no Precious.

203
00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,480
And then in the corner,
I saw my laptop on the table.

204
00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,240
This was my property, you know?

205
00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,920
So I walked over and took it
and then left.

206
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,680
It was as I was heading
for the front door that I saw him.

207
00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,000
An old man
at the end of the corridor,

208
00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,880
with a mop and bucket.

209
00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,440
Did you speak to him?

210
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,760
I called out, "Hello,"
and he turned, clearly surprised.

211
00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,800
I introduced myself and told him
that I'd come to see Precious.

212
00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,240
He quickly said that she was out

213
00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,080
- and that he'd tell her
that I'd come over. - Anything else?

214
00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,360
He'd asked if I'd been
into the main room to look for her.

215
00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,080
I said no and then left.

216
00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,360
Could you describe him?

217
00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,200
Late 60s, early 70s.

218
00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,480
- Well-spoken.
- OK.

219
00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,760
Erm... So, the day after this,
you resigned.

220
00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:59,040
And then three weeks later,
you left the country for good.

221
00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,840
I assumed that she'd have downloaded
the images elsewhere

222
00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,440
and would continue to extort me.

223
00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,720
I felt my life in England was over.

224
00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,600
Listen...

225
00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,520
you'd be hard-pressed
to find a man who hated himself

226
00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,000
more than me for what I did do.

227
00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,600
All the women I abused
by taking those photos.

228
00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,960
I hope I've become a better person,

229
00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,880
but I'm also fully aware
that I may well be kidding myself

230
00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,000
that I only did it
because I was depressed or lonely.

231
00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,800
I mean, maybe I actually did it
because I'm a fucked-up human being.

232
00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,160
I genuinely don't know
the answer to that.

233
00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,080
But one thing I am sure of...

234
00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,240
I never saw Precious Falade
after the 26th,

235
00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,920
and I never hurt her.

236
00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,000
DNA tests confirm that Jay Royce

237
00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,720
is indeed the child
of Precious Falade and Eric Royce,

238
00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,560
and the body in the garden

239
00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,600
is the child of Precious Falade
and David Bell.

240
00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,800
- Joseph Bell.
- Mm-hm.

241
00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,640
Ebele never mentioned
she had a second grandchild.

242
00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,080
Do we think it's possible
she didn't know?

243
00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,760
I think it's perfectly possible.
The boy was invisible.

244
00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,720
Off the radar of social services,
the education system.

245
00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,440
The real question is,
what does he know?

246
00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,200
- Indeed.
- OK.

247
00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,040
Murray, what have you got for us?

248
00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,080
Forensics have confirmed
that a bullet

249
00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,200
found in the wall at Waterman Road

250
00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,960
was fired from the same gun
as the one that killed Precious.

251
00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,880
Yeah. Not a surprise. Excellent.

252
00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,840
- Anything else?
- Yeah.

253
00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,880
You wanted to try and place Hume
at the murder scene on the 26th.

254
00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,920
I mean, my name was on the contract,
but he paid the actual rent,

255
00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,600
so he absolutely knew
where the flat was.

256
00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,880
- He probably had keys.
- Who did?

257
00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,360
And the day after it all happened,

258
00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,080
he paid for me to go away
for a few days.

259
00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,840
- He sent me away to bloody Cornwall, Dave!
- Calm down, Bele. Who did?

260
00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,440
My father! He put Joe there.

261
00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,120
I thought you never knew
your father.

262
00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,280
Bele?

263
00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,680
Bele?!

264
00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,360
Did you kill your granddaughter,
Mr Hume?

265
00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,760
I don't have a granddaughter.
I have three grandsons.

266
00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,920
I'm talking about Precious Falade.

267
00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,160
What evidence do you have
that Precious Falade

268
00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,800
is Mr Hume's granddaughter?

269
00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,520
We can do DNA checks in time,
but, for now,

270
00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,560
I think his daughter Ebele Falade
will confirm this.

271
00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,400
And if he denies Ebele
is his daughter,

272
00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,360
well, then I'd simply ask
why he's been paying her money

273
00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,120
via standing order
for the past 30-something years.

274
00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,400
No, I didn't kill her.

275
00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,160
Did you kill your great-grandson,
Joseph Bell?

276
00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,440
No, of course not.

277
00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,880
Were you with either of them
the night they died?

278
00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,120
No.

279
00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:38,320
Or at or near 64 Waterman Road,
on the 26th and 27th of June, 2016?

280
00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,560
- No. - And when was the last time
you saw either of them?

281
00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,280
I've never even met either of them.

282
00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,600
I'm showing the suspect
exhibit TH01...

283
00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,240
a copy of a credit card statement
belonging to Mr Hume.

284
00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,800
Mr Hume, could you read out
the fifth credit down, please?

285
00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,600
It's a payment
to an Esso filling station for £60.

286
00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,720
26th of June, 2016.

287
00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,720
Thank you. And the address
of the petrol station?

288
00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,080
- Inverdale Road.
- Postcode?

289
00:17:13,104 --> 00:17:14,656
W67 CX.

290
00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,320
Which is, in case you don't know,
Hammersmith,

291
00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:21,160
and Inverdale Road is the road
at the bottom of Waterman Road.

292
00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,160
And, er, do you see a time
for the payment there?

293
00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,600
19:23.

294
00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,600
So just before half seven,
on the night that Precious died,

295
00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,280
we now have you
no more than 100 yards

296
00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,760
from the house in which she died.

297
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,480
- Is there anything you'd like to add?
- No comment.

298
00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:44,640
So, erm, the day after this,
the 27th of June,

299
00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,400
we also have a witness
who says they saw you

300
00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,560
with a bucket and mop

301
00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,560
near a room shown by forensics
to have been spattered with blood,

302
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,680
which we have since identified
as Precious Falade's.

303
00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,200
What witness?

304
00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,160
Her social worker.

305
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,320
You refused consent
for a video ID earlier,

306
00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:06,400
so we took a covert ID in custody,

307
00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,360
and our witness identified you
very easily, Mr Hume.

308
00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,840
What's your response to that?

309
00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,240
Lord Hume,
I think the best course is to...

310
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,040
- No comment.
- Really?!

311
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,160
Because maybe there's a perfectly
innocent explanation as to why,

312
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,360
the day after a murder
was committed in that room,

313
00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,480
you were seen in that house,

314
00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,280
clearly having just mopped blood
off the floor.

315
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,800
And if there is,
then this is your chance now

316
00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,520
to tell us your side of the story.

317
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,760
Or Corfu.

318
00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,360
Mike and Liz went there last year
and absolutely loved it.

319
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,800
Said it was the prettiest village.
Water's crystal clear.

320
00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,560
They said they'd go back
in a heartbeat.

321
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,040
Hello. You all right, love?

322
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,640
There's something
I need to tell you about.

323
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,200
I'm gonna go and stay with Jordan
for a bit.

324
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,760
He's found a new squat
with hot water.

325
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,200
You need to sort your life out,
J, man.

326
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,840
I only found out about Bele...

327
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,840
when she was in her early 20s.

328
00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:33,520
The result of a very...

329
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,000
brief relationship
I'd had with her mother in 1963.

330
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,120
The mother died when Bele was young.

331
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,200
And so as soon as I found out
I had a daughter,

332
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,360
I obviously offered her
financial support,

333
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,400
which she accepted.

334
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,760
There was little further contact,
which was her choice.

335
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,520
I knew that she had
had a daughter herself in the...

336
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,160
in the mid-'80s,

337
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,040
but I had no contact with her
until late 2015

338
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,680
when she called me
out of the blue...

339
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,440
and also wanted money.

340
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,440
Which, again, willingly,
I-I gave her.

341
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,880
A few weeks before she...

342
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,960
she died...

343
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,960
I got a call from Bele telling me
that Precious was homeless.

344
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,160
Waterman Road was empty at that time

345
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,040
and, of course,
I wanted to help, so...

346
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,280
I met her...

347
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,640
to give her some keys
and let her in, and...

348
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,640
The meeting was brief but cordial.

349
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,840
She'd obviously lost her way
in life,

350
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,360
and I felt very sorry for her.

351
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,520
The night she died...

352
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,120
a man identifying himself
as Precious's son

353
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,120
called me from Waterman Road.

354
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,880
He, er...

355
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:11,200
He was threatening all sorts
of things, and again, wanted money.

356
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,520
I rang Bele, and...

357
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,200
she said she'd drive there
immediately.

358
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,800
But, erm...

359
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,880
Well, I-I also decided
to drive there myself.

360
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,400
I got there first.

361
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,760
To find that Joseph,
Precious's son...

362
00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:41,600
was in a very bad way.

363
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,160
He seemed to be coming down
off something

364
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,920
and was clearly very disturbed,

365
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,480
threatening violence to me
and his mother.

366
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,000
Unless I took him to a cash machine
and got out thousands of pounds.

367
00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:57,800
And then...

368
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,040
quite without warning, he...

369
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,320
he pulled out a gun.

370
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,080
Which he proceeded to point at me.

371
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,320
Precious was horrified,
and... and before I could stop her,

372
00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,240
she lunged for it, and it...

373
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,720
It went off.

374
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,880
Hitting him in the head.

375
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,320
He fell.

376
00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,120
I went to help him, and, er...

377
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,320
as I was trying to get him
into the recovery position...

378
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,440
there was another shot.

379
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,560
And I looked around, and Precious
had turned the gun on to herself.

380
00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:48,120
Straight into her chest.

381
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,680
She died pretty instantly.

382
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,240
Joseph's heart stopped
within seconds.

383
00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:00,480
I never even had a chance
to call for help.

384
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,400
And into this...

385
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,720
nightmare walked Bele.

386
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,360
I explained to her
what had happened. I'm...

387
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,120
I'm not sure
she entirely believed me,

388
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,920
even though it was true.

389
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,600
Obviously, we were both in pieces.

390
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,600
And that was how I...

391
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,800
I ended up saying that I would...

392
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,640
dispose of Joseph's body.

393
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,520
And how I ended up leaving Bele
with her daughter.

394
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,480
So, you buried Joseph Bell

395
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,960
in the garden of
your daughter's flat in Greenford?

396
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,560
- Yes.
- And why there specifically?

397
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,520
I had keys.

398
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,440
- It was private.
- Not for deflection?

399
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,480
To incriminate her
if anything ever went wrong?

400
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,800
No.

401
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,560
So, why did you anonymously call
the front desk of this station

402
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,520
last night
and tell us where his body was?

403
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,080
I panicked.

404
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,760
And did you know that Bele had
hidden Precious in the fireplace?

405
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,680
No.

406
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,400
She told me she'd buried her
in woods somewhere.

407
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,640
So this...

408
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,440
this is the truth now?

409
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,920
Yes.

410
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,720
Because you've lied to us
repeatedly, Lord Hume.

411
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,320
Both times we've questioned you.

412
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,000
This is the truth.

413
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,000
I swear.

414
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,840
We need Ebele Falade.

415
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:45,120
Come on.
Firstly, we need to clean our teeth.

416
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,080
We need to do our stories.
Time is running out.

417
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,840
Wait. Five, four, three...

418
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,240
His behaviour has been disgraceful,
which he realises.

419
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,760
He loves you, Jess.

420
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,320
And needs you.

421
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,120
And the kids need him.

422
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,840
I don't believe him, Mum.

423
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,520
No, I'm sure you don't,
and it's shite, but...

424
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,760
nothing's perfect.

425
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,520
- Not even you.
- Hm!

426
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,720
- Call you later.
- OK.

427
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,000
So, my mum, Yetunde,
was a second-generation Nigerian.

428
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,360
Her parents came over here
after the war,

429
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000
and she was born in 1946.

430
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,680
And in August 1963, age 17,

431
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,800
she got a job as a cleaner
in the city stockbroker's

432
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,280
where her parents already worked
in the canteen.

433
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,800
The son of one of the directors
was working there in the months

434
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,120
between Wallingham and Cambridge,

435
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,320
and one night,
after drinking with work friends,

436
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:38,600
he went back to the office late
to pick up some papers

437
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,720
and encountered my mum,
who was working nights.

438
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,280
And after pressuring her
to have a few drinks with him...

439
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,200
raped her.

440
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,280
She went back home that night
and, of course, told her parents.

441
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,280
Who blamed her.

442
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,120
And she did consider
going to the police, but, er...

443
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,400
in the end, didn't because...

444
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,720
he was the rich, white,
son of the boss.

445
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,360
And... she wasn't.

446
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,720
A few weeks later,
she realised that she was pregnant

447
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,680
and wrote to the son,
who was now at university.

448
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,520
And... he didn't reply,

449
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,920
so she wrote to his father...

450
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,160
Sir Henry Hume...

451
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,640
who asked her
to come into his office

452
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,920
and told her that
if she pursued this any further,

453
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,840
he'd sack her and her parents.

454
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,520
Morgan Lavelle
had originally made their money

455
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,360
from the sugar trade,

456
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,160
so she really shouldn't
have been so surprised.

457
00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:01,480
And on the 3rd of March, 1964,
I was born.

458
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,960
Three weeks later,
she wrote me a letter

459
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,440
which, erm, was meant to be
given to me on my 18th birthday.

460
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,960
And deposited it
with a local solicitor...

461
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,800
and...

462
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,120
jumped in the Thames.

463
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,680
I was raised by my grandparents,
who...

464
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,200
saw me as a child of evil

465
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,600
and filled me with shame
and self-hatred.

466
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,160
And after I read that,
I realised why.

467
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,560
So if he told you
that he was decent about it

468
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:54,640
when I finally approached him,
then, again, he lied.

469
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,480
He was much more interested
in protecting his reputation

470
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:04,400
and made a number of threats
of violence against me.

471
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,440
I ignored them,
and I got his DNA from a glass

472
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,640
at a lecture that he did,

473
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,120
and had a test done
and told him that I would go to

474
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,000
the News Of The World
with the result.

475
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,040
That was 1988. Yeah.

476
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,680
After that, he was a pussy cat.

477
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,640
So nothing about him
is what it seems.

478
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,400
And whatever he told you
about that night,

479
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,560
whatever he told me,
won't be what actually happened.

480
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,920
So, why don't you tell us
what you witnessed there?

481
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,680
He called me and said that...

482
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,840
Joseph had called him,
threatening him.

483
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,160
Did Joseph know that
this was his great grandfather?

484
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,240
I had told Precious about Hume
a few months before.

485
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400
I guess she had then told Joseph.

486
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,360
And why hadn't you told her
about him before then?

487
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:35,240
Because I knew that she would
mess up the financial arrangement.

488
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,280
Which I needed.

489
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,000
- So?
- So, erm...

490
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,200
After my father called me,
we both headed to Waterman Road.

491
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,040
And when I arrived, I walked in...

492
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,680
to a vision from hell.

493
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:04,080
My daughter was already dead,
and my grandson was dying.

494
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,880
And my father told me
that my daughter had shot her son...

495
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,920
accidentally, and then shot herself.

496
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,560
Did he tell you how that happened?

497
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,640
He said that Joseph had taken drugs,

498
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,760
and that there'd been
some sort of row about money,

499
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,840
and that he'd pointed a gun at Hume,

500
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,240
and that Precious
had tried to get it off him,

501
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,400
and it had gone off, hitting Joe.

502
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,880
And she'd then turned it on herself.

503
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,760
OK. And did you ever question
this version of events?

504
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,720
Oh... No, not in the moment, no.

505
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,800
You know, I was in shock, obviously.

506
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,720
And also, I'd only met Joseph
three or four times,

507
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,560
and I knew that he'd already been in

508
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,120
a young offenders institute
for assault using a gun.

509
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,560
And in that moment,
in the panic and horror,

510
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,800
being told that
by Lord Anthony Hume,

511
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,200
I'm embarrassed to say that I...
I... I believed him.

512
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,120
- Do you believe it now?
- No. No.

513
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,800
So, what do you think happened?

514
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,720
I don't know.

515
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:26,080
I just know that he is an evil,
lying bastard,

516
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,920
and he could have done
absolutely anything.

517
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,800
He... Maybe he shot them both.

518
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,760
I don't know.

519
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,440
And the disposal of the bodies?

520
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,720
He told me that
if we called the police...

521
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,080
they might not believe
it was an accident,

522
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,280
because of... my criminal record.

523
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,760
He-He wanted to take them both...

524
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280
but I said
I wanted to look after Precious.

525
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,280
And I spent the...

526
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,640
whole night with her,
just holding her,

527
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,720
and rocking her,
and singing to her.

528
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,960
Saying sorry to her.

529
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,240
And then...

530
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,600
And then it was morning.

531
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,960
And...

532
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,520
I walked out to the car,

533
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,520
and there were workmen
in the street.

534
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,840
I have regretted what I did.

535
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,320
Every single day since.

536
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,760
Because it was a dreadful way
to treat my daughter.

537
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,080
But...

538
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,440
that was me.

539
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:06,680
A few weeks later, I took
Precious's keys to get back in

540
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:11,760
and had some friend
put a plasterboard.

541
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,200
OK, erm...

542
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:22,560
Just... Just one last question.

543
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,080
Does the name Jay Royce
mean anything to you?

544
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,680
Who's Jay Royce?

545
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,280
- Jay?
- What d'you want?

546
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,600
Can we talk about that night,
please?

547
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,680
Why? Nothing ever changes.

548
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,840
People like me don't win
against people like him.

549
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,320
I'm so sorry that was yours
and Joseph's experience.

550
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,800
But we're here to tell you...

551
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,400
that if you trust us,
we will change that.

552
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,520
We will listen to you,
and we will act on what you tell us.

553
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,280
But if you stay silent,
then all I can say is, yeah...

554
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,080
he probably will win again.

555
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,120
I was one floor up.

556
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,200
My mum didn't want me
to meet my nan or him, so...

557
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:58,880
I was playing on my Game Boy.

558
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,280
I saw Hume arrive in his car
out of a bedroom window.

559
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,000
So... he arrived first?

560
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:11,880
Good ten minutes before my nan.

561
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,320
I weren't interested
in meeting either of them,

562
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,200
so I was just waiting for them
to leave.

563
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,600
Except then
I started to hear shouting.

564
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,240
Joe mainly, but Mum as well.

565
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,800
Both screaming at Hume, really.

566
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,240
So I walked out onto the landing.

567
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,480
My brother was obviously
off his face,

568
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,840
pointing and jabbing at Hume.

569
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Telling him he was a dirty bastard,

570
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,560
and that he should
fuck him up proper

571
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,960
for what he had done
to our family...

572
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,920
to our nan's mum.

573
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,280
And he's screaming
right in front of him,

574
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,000
and all this spit's
getting in Hume's face.

575
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Then suddenly, Hume's got his hand
round Joe's neck,

576
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,080
and he slammed him
up against a wall.

577
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,240
Said he could have him disappeared
in an instant if he wanted.

578
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,440
Cos he was that fucking powerful.

579
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,680
And he's squeezing Joe's neck.

580
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,800
And squeezing and squeezing,

581
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,800
and I'm thinking
he's gonna choke him.

582
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,400
He's gonna kill him.

583
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,760
Which is when Joe pulls out this gun
from the back of his trousers.

584
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,360
And Hume goes very fucking quiet
very quick.

585
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,960
Starts to back away
with his hands up.

586
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,240
My mum's shitting herself

587
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,440
and telling Joe to put it down,
but he won't.

588
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,640
And he's still shouting back
at both of them.

589
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,360
And then my mum
just makes a grab for it,

590
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,600
and it all goes quiet
as she wrestles with him.

591
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,080
Then there's a bang.

592
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,920
And she goes down.

593
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,720
And Joe's in shock, man,
and not really taking it all in.

594
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,080
My mum's eyes are rolling up
into her fucking head.

595
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,960
And Hume's asking for the gun.

596
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,560
Joe just gives it to him.

597
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,320
Meek as a lamb now.

598
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,200
Then Joe kneels by Mum
to take her hand...

599
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,680
which is when Hume shoots him.

600
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,280
In the back of the head.

601
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,760
And there was obviously nothing
I could do.

602
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,640
You know, I was 14.

603
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,080
I was also terrified he'd hear me
and he'd kill me.

604
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,400
So I sort of just...

605
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,080
I sort of just froze.

606
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,520
And then I heard my nan's car
arriving,

607
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,280
and she walked in
and just started wailing.

608
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,480
So I used the noise to go upstairs.

609
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,480
To the very top floor and hide
in a cupboard under the eaves.

610
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,720
I stayed there for two whole days.

611
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,800
When I finally came down...

612
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,480
the bodies had gone.

613
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,400
Hume had gone.

614
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,640
The blood had gone.

615
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,040
Some of my mum's things
were still there, like...

616
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,760
Like, her laptop was...
was in the drawer,

617
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,320
and, erm... a few of her clothes,
which I took.

618
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,840
And then I just ran.

619
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,000
We wonder how kids like him
turn out like they do.

620
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,400
Right, let's see what Hume
has to say now.

621
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,920
The lies that we tell ourselves.

622
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,200
That that wasn't rape.

623
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,840
That she liked me.

624
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,400
That I was a good man,
who'd led a good life,

625
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,520
who'd leave good behind.

626
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,440
Best part of my life...

627
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,760
I truly believed that.

628
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,040
Then in one instant...

629
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,160
one look...

630
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,120
it all fell away.

631
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,320
I saw myself honestly.

632
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,200
I couldn't bear it.

633
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,800
To see who I really was.

634
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,320
The awful truth.

635
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,120
So I...

636
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,760
I snuffed it out.

637
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,760
So you shot Joseph Bell?

638
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,280
Yes. I did.

639
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,320
And I have tried so hard
for the last six years

640
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,280
to make some amends.

641
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,440
But, of course, it was never
even close to being enough.

642
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,320
For that...

643
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,960
for what I did...

644
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,080
I am so, so...

645
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,200
so sorry.

646
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,080
I mean,
I wouldn't give up the day job,

647
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,560
but, er, there's definitely
something there.

648
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,600
You weren't trying to make amends,
Mr Hume.

649
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,640
You just saw the catastrophic effect
of your life's work

650
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,080
and realised that
that's how you'd be remembered.

651
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,080
You were just trying to improve
your Wiki page.

652
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,560
Yeah. We see you.

653
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,520
Well, consider this,
Lord Anthony Hume,

654
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,440
you will only ever be remembered
as a rapist

655
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,680
who murdered his own great-grandson.

656
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:22,640
That's your fucking legacy, fella.

657
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,760
I hope they throw away the key.

658
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,360
We'll get someone
to take you to your cell.

659
00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:59,720
- Are you Jay?
- Yes.

660
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,960
Do you know who I am?

661
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,000
I think so.

662
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:15,320
I'm your nan, Jay.

663
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,760
I'm Bele.

664
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,240
Hello, Nan.

665
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,200
I am so sorry, little one.

666
00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:34,360
I am so, so sorry.

667
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,400
I told them, Nan.

668
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,400
I told them he did it.

669
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,400
I know, sweetheart.

670
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,160
They rang.

671
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,680
- So now we know the truth.
- Except you don't.

672
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,360
- Sorry?
- I lied.

673
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,360
Mum killed Joe.

674
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,200
Accidentally,
trying to get the gun off him.

675
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,920
Then shot herself.

676
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,680
But it was all his fault,
what happened to our family.

677
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:11,040
'From him raping your mum
to everything that come after,

678
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200
'it was all down to him.

679
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,520
'So I just thought,
"Fuck him," y'know?'

680
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,880
What's good for the goose, man,
innit?

681
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,560
Just... fuck him.

682
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:36,200
There you are.

683
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:37,680
Sorry about earlier.

684
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:41,160
That was, er...
that was a bit unprofessional.

685
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,440
No apology needed.

686
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,520
You took the words
right out of my mouth.

687
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,920
CPS call yet?

688
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,800
Said we can charge him
with the murder and the rape.

689
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,520
Nice!

690
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,280
Wasn't expecting both.

691
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,600
That's a 57-year-old crime,
DCI James.

692
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,080
A Bishop Street record.

693
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,960
Well, for now.

694
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,240
And it's Jessie, please.

695
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,360
Jessie James.

696
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:18,040
- So, you ever held up a stagecoach?
- Held up a bar!

697
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,800
- Well, now you're talking.
- I'll get my horse.

698
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:30,000
*CREDITS*

