1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:01,520 The more we know about her, 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,800 the more chance we have of working out how she died. 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,120 When she was 15, she was abducted by a cult. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,160 I never had any experience of Precious being violent. 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,400 The aggression came entirely from Ebele. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,000 We have multiple arrests. 7 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,080 An ABH charge, with a firearm. 8 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,680 - What was the name of your cover, please? - That was Karol Wojski. 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,920 - If we want a baby, we'll need a bigger place. - Karol... 10 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,520 Am I not good enough? Is that what it is? 11 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,400 He's the last person to have seen her alive. 12 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,440 And the day after he did, he resigned. 13 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,680 How would you feel about a trip to Paris, where he lives? 14 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,680 - Hello, love. - I think I'm miscarrying. 15 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,160 So, the relative who used to pop round to check up on her, 16 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,520 that's Lord Anthony. 17 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,780 They were very threatening. 18 00:00:35,804 --> 00:00:36,840 - Physically? - Yes. 19 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,760 - What did they say the squatters were like? - Sweet. 20 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,600 You don't know me, but I know you. 21 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,160 My mother was Precious Falade, and I was there that night. 22 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,880 And I saw it all. 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:33,000 *CREDITS* 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,600 Hi, babe, it's me. Obviously, erm... 25 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,600 spoke to your mum when you were asleep. 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,160 Be good to talk. Er... Call me when you feel up to it. 27 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,880 Er... Back tonight. Lots of love. 28 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,520 Get your shit together. 29 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,160 I'm sure it's nothing serious, just a bad cold, 30 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,560 but these days you never know, do you? So... 31 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,960 But as per our discussion, we've got a million new menu ideas. 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,640 So she or I will call you, 33 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,520 and hopefully we can reschedule maybe for early next week? 34 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,800 Thanks a lot. 35 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,440 You said you'd find things. You said you'd research stuff. 36 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,760 I said I'd do some digging, and I have, but the reality is... 37 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,840 - Do you want more money? - It's not about the money. 38 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,280 It's always about the money. 39 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,120 I'm sorry if I've given you false hope, 40 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,240 but perhaps I should've... 41 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,920 So, the firearm detailed in the original log 42 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,640 was actually an air pistol. 43 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,800 - Ebele's? - No, a flatmate's that she'd borrowed, 44 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,120 according to her statement. 45 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,000 Er, apparently, she'd been drinking all afternoon with friends, 46 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,120 and it was a "prank", 47 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,960 "a spur of the moment dare to hold up a bank". 48 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,480 I thought it was a stockbrokers? 49 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,000 Yeah, it was, a company called Morgan Lavelle. 50 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,280 As I say, she was very drunk. 51 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Why did she already have the airgun with her 52 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,760 if it was an off-the-cuff dare? 53 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,360 - Yep. - OK. What did she get? 54 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,760 - 12 months bender. - Right. 55 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,760 - Low. - Yeah, and then at the trial, 56 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,160 the doorman that she'd threatened, a guy called, er... 57 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,440 Christopher Blackwood. 58 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,760 So, he ended up backing up her version of events, 59 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,760 and he said that she told him it was a dare 60 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,120 after just a few seconds of waving the gun around, 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,400 and that later, he saw her mates giggling outside. 62 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,720 So, why'd he call the police? 63 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,760 He said he called them before she revealed it was a prank. 64 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,120 - In those few seconds? - Yeah, me neither. 65 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,320 OK, well, let's see if we can speak to him, the doorman. 66 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,760 I should also say that forensics have found 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,320 what we hope is our bullet at the scene last night, 68 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,560 so that's headed to ballistics as we speak. 69 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,040 So, we did find a bank account for a woman 70 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,191 with the same name and DOB, 71 00:04:10,215 --> 00:04:12,640 and her last transaction, ever, 72 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,200 was a debit card payment to an off-licence 73 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,320 on the 26th of June at 17:43 that evening. 74 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,920 Was that... 75 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,720 Was that not also the same date the social worker visited her? 76 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,120 I think it was. 77 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,680 Yeah, that morning. 78 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,120 OK. Good. Like that. 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,080 Er, what about her bank activity? 80 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,040 Very regular, for many years. She used her card most days. 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,360 OK, so it stopping being like that, then, that's significant. 82 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,480 Absolutely. 83 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,800 And anything interesting in her bank statements? 84 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:45,000 Couple of things. 85 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,280 She survived mostly on benefits, but there were also cash payments, 86 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,360 deposited, I presume, by her at pretty regular intervals. 87 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,560 OK. What sorts of amounts? 88 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,560 Three, four hundred quid, give or take. 89 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,920 - How often? - About half a dozen times a year. 90 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,200 Started in 2010, stopped after the 26th. 91 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,880 - Could it have been money from her sex work? - Hm... 92 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,200 A meth habit doesn't generally go hand-in-hand with fiscal prudence. 93 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,600 No. 94 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,160 Er, and the other thing? 95 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,640 Yeah, a standing order, 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,560 which was only set up seven months before she died. 97 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,120 That's for £200, to be paid on the 1st of each month. 98 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,760 - From? - It just says "DSH" on the statements. 99 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,080 I've no idea what that means. I'm investigating. 100 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,080 OK. And her mobile? 101 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Couldn't find any contracts. 102 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,280 If she did have a phone, it must have been a pay-as-you-go. 103 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,360 - Kaz and I are looking into that. - OK, great. Thank you. 104 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,480 Er, Frances. 105 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,840 Yeah, so I put a flag on PNC for Joseph Bell, 106 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,040 and I actually got a ping first thing this morning. 107 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,400 He was arrested, apparently, in Essex, yesterday. 108 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,040 - For? - ABH, among other things. 109 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,360 No bail. Er, he's being held on remand. 110 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,198 OK. Find out where, and see if we can speak to him, 111 00:05:48,222 --> 00:05:49,680 ASAP, please. 112 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,120 - Sure. - OK. Thanks, all. 113 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:56,120 - Where's DI Khan, Guv? - Paris. 114 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,080 Interviewing the social worker. 115 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,640 Back tonight. 116 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,920 I don't know if you remember me, but we met three years ago 117 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,520 when you managed to get me a work permit. 118 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,560 Er, I was hoping to repay the favour. 119 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,840 I've got some goods I thought you might be interested in. 120 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,560 Some watches, premium watches. 121 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,040 Er, eight, Bretq, worth about 80K if you were to... 122 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,760 Maybe half of that, maybe 40? 123 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:32,200 Yeah, I can... I can see you tonight. 124 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,720 Erm, are you still in the same...? 125 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,800 Yeah, I'll be there. I'll see you then. 126 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,720 Yes, that's Precious. 127 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,800 - Your client. - Yes. 128 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,040 My God, what a dreadful thing. 129 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,320 - What a tragic waste of a life. - Yeah. 130 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,160 - So, was it drugs? - No. 131 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,880 - What, then? - We think she was murdered. 132 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,120 Jesus. By who? 133 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,440 Well, that's why I'm here, 134 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,240 to get as much information as possible about her last movements. 135 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:44,640 Right. 136 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,520 And what do you want to know? 137 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,520 Hiya. 138 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,960 If you've come for contrition, you'll wait a long time. 139 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,040 No, I don't need that. 140 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,080 I just thought you might wanna know a lawyer in London called for you. 141 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,920 Wants you to call him back ASAP. 142 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,680 Why does a lawyer wanna speak to you, love? 143 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,840 And how can we even afford a London lawyer? 144 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Her life was chaotic, as it often is with addicts, 145 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,200 so she was hard to help. 146 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,680 Was she using when you were working with her? 147 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,160 - Yes. - Did she ever deal as well? 148 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,360 Not to my knowledge. 149 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,960 Did she ever mention any trouble with her dealers? 150 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,560 Not that she ever told me about. 151 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,040 And where was she living when you first engaged with her? 152 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,640 Temporary hostels, which she kept getting chucked out of. 153 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:17,400 For...? 154 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,320 She had issues with her universal credit not being paid, 155 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,080 she was stealing from other residents, 156 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,280 ongoing drug issues. 157 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,200 And, er, did she work in the sex trade 158 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,600 at any stage that you knew her? 159 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,160 She said not. 160 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,400 But I know her son wanted her to get back to it. 161 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,640 I mean, he was always short of money himself, 162 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:36,200 so maybe he persuaded her. 163 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,320 He was down in London when you were working with her? 164 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,360 - On and off. - Did you actually see him? 165 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,080 A couple of times, yeah, when he was kipping on her floor. 166 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,560 And what was her relationship with him like? 167 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,200 Troubled. Erm... 168 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,760 He stole from her because of his own habit. 169 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,800 She also told me that he was violent towards her. 170 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,560 And what's her relationship like with her mother? 171 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,840 Pretty similar. The trauma ran down the generations. 172 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,520 Again, all fairly common in families with addiction issues. 173 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:08,480 And how did you try to help? 174 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:13,880 My primary focus was to get her stable accommodation 175 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,640 and a drug rehabilitation programme. 176 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:17,840 Did you succeed in either? 177 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,680 No. 178 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Because...? 179 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,880 Look, people like Precious, for many complicated reasons, 180 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,760 often sabotage their own help. 181 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,560 So things can go wrong many times before they go right, 182 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,120 which all costs money. 183 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,560 Sadly, "Let's raise taxes and give it to addicts" 184 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,560 doesn't easily fit on the side of a bus, 185 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,880 so, yes, we failed. 186 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,000 Because... money. 187 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:44,640 Erm, OK. That's the girls' father. 188 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:46,160 He's come to pick them up. 189 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,120 We're in the middle of a custody dispute. 190 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,580 - _ - _ 191 00:10:59,604 --> 00:11:02,004 _ 192 00:11:02,028 --> 00:11:05,028 _ 193 00:11:05,052 --> 00:11:06,652 _ 194 00:11:06,676 --> 00:11:08,376 _ 195 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,440 What the fuck...?! 196 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,520 _ 197 00:11:17,044 --> 00:11:18,744 _ 198 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,500 _ 199 00:11:27,024 --> 00:11:29,024 - _ - _ 200 00:11:29,048 --> 00:11:29,998 _ 201 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,160 So, she's in and out of temporary hostels, 202 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,480 and then in late June 2016, 203 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,400 she asks you to come to see her in a big house in Hammersmith? 204 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Yeah. 205 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:02,080 Did she mention whose house it was, or how come she was there? 206 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,480 She said it was a squat. 207 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,720 Did she mention anyone by the name of Tony Hume? 208 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,800 - No. - And how was she? 209 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,520 - Fine. - Completely normal meeting? 210 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:15,680 Yeah. 211 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,920 She didn't mention anything about any rows, 212 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,120 or anything to do with her family, 213 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,658 or anyone that made you think that she might be in danger? 214 00:12:22,682 --> 00:12:23,640 No. 215 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:25,320 Because we have reason to believe 216 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,600 that Precious died very soon after your last meeting. 217 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,320 Almost certainly in that house, in fact. 218 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,440 So, is there anything that you can tell us 219 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,080 that would help us with that? 220 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,280 No. Sorry. 221 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:44,720 So, this was both the last meeting you had with her, er... 222 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,720 but also, as I understand it, possibly the last with anyone. 223 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,160 You resigned the day after. 224 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,800 I don't recall the exact date. 225 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,600 You resigned on... 226 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:56,920 the 27th. 227 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Right. 228 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,120 Are the two events connected at all? 229 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,680 No. 230 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,840 It just seems like a bit of a coincidence. 231 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,520 - Does it? - Well... 232 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,160 She's murdered, you resigned. 233 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,720 But I didn't know she was dead. Obviously. 234 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,880 Hm. So, what was the reason, then? 235 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:19,320 I didn't like the job. 236 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,640 What, that job specifically, or social work generally? 237 00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:24,040 Both. 238 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,600 I was exhausted and demoralised. We all were. 239 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,440 So, just one more time, then. Er... 240 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,618 Nothing happened in that house, no arguments of any kind? 241 00:13:34,642 --> 00:13:35,680 No. 242 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,480 No issues, disputes, problems between the two of you, 243 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,280 that you think that we should know about? 244 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,840 No. 245 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,520 OK, thanks for your time. 246 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,360 What are you talking about? 247 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,120 I was looking after him yesterday. Of course I'm his brief. 248 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,920 Your name's not on the list. Maybe you've been replaced. 249 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,520 Replaced by who? 250 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:11,920 And so, in conclusion, Your Worships, 251 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,280 we would like to stress again 252 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,640 that our client has literally no history of absconding, 253 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:19,800 that he has a vulnerable partner with multiple health issues... 254 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,160 who he is deeply committed to looking after... 255 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,680 and lastly, that we would be happy to offer 256 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,240 a surety of £10,000. 257 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,840 Yeah, I want to find out about his departure 258 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,960 from West London Social Services. 259 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,760 To my sense, there's more there than he's admitting to. 260 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,160 - OK. - And also, according to him, 261 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,760 both the mother and the son were violent towards Precious. 262 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,400 Yeah. Although he would say that 263 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,920 - if he was trying to cover up his own tracks. - Yeah. 264 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,840 OK, but let's trawl through his contemporaneous notes 265 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,320 - and see what they say. - Yeah. 266 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,680 It'd be good to, erm... maybe find half an hour... 267 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,320 to sit down together and, er... 268 00:15:03,344 --> 00:15:05,544 _ 269 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,200 Sorry. What time are we at Earlmarsh? 270 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,760 - Three thirty. - See you then. Bye. 271 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,800 _ 272 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:51,800 _ 273 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,560 Tony? 274 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,280 Ah! Mehdi. How are you? 275 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,960 Yeah, good. Listen, erm... 276 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,640 I just wanted to let you know, 277 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,600 I had a look at your grant application. 278 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,640 It's gonna have to be a no, I'm afraid. 279 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,520 - Oh? - Yeah, budgets are so squeezed, for obvious reasons. 280 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,680 We just need to prioritise the more unique applications. 281 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,200 "Unique"? What does that mean? 282 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,600 Well, there wasn't a lot of detail in there, Tony. 283 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,040 You know, for a 100K grant, it all felt a little peremptory. 284 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,600 - I thought we had a shorthand. - Right. 285 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,120 It's getting harder for it to keep working like that, though. 286 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,720 Worked like that when I got you into the DOT. 287 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,240 When your son needed an introduction to Warburgs. 288 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,640 It worked like that then, Mehdi, didn't it? 289 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,160 Ah, well. There it is. Sorry again. 290 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,320 D'you know what they call you, Mehdi? 291 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,440 Behind your back, your department? 292 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,640 "Mehdi-ocrity". Never a truer word. 293 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,440 Do you know what they call you, Tony? Hm? 294 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,960 Nothing. 295 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,800 No-one cares. 296 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,120 - I'm so sorry, Joseph. - J. 297 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,600 J. 298 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,480 I ain't seen her in years, man, so I don't give a fuck. 299 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,400 Your mum? 300 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,840 So, when was the last time you saw her? 301 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,480 Ten years. 302 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,840 Got away from her as soon as I could, innit? 303 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,320 Bad influence. 304 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,720 Because her social worker details you living 305 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,440 between London and Wales in 2016, 306 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,760 and seeing your mum occasionally during that period. 307 00:17:58,800 --> 00:17:59,840 Not true. 308 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,560 Well, he also details seeing you 309 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,520 at a hostel she was staying at, in Acton. 310 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,560 And also has her describing a row between you and her, 311 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,960 in which you got violent. 312 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,360 Didn't happen. 313 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,480 Must have mistaken me for someone else. 314 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,880 And as for violence, well, my mum was chattin' shit. 315 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,360 - Why would she have lied? - My mum would have said anything 316 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,960 if she thought it was gonna get her something. 317 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,840 Probably wanted to get into a refuge or something. 318 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,760 - You think? - I do. 319 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,440 So, did you never wonder where she'd been the last six years? 320 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,320 - I assumed she'd gone to Wales. - To the farm? 321 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,120 But, listen... 322 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,840 if you're looking for someone who did used to hurt her, 323 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,760 then speak to David Bell. 324 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,080 That don bust her up fuckin' hundreds of times. 325 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:46,600 This was the man who ran the cult? 326 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,160 Yeah, proper nasty. 327 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,120 You actually saw him be violent towards her? 328 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Yeah, lots of times, man. 329 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,760 I mean, she always left, but... 330 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,400 then somehow, for some reason, she always went back. 331 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,120 And when you say violent... 332 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,440 Physical... 333 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,840 sexual... 334 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,440 In here, man. 335 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,080 Treated her like a dog. 336 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,240 Worse than a dog, like... like he owned her or something. 337 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,200 How long were you there? 338 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,920 On and off from when I was about seven to when I was about 15. 339 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,840 And what was your relationship with him like, 340 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,040 this man whose surname you shared? 341 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,080 Was he ever violent towards you? 342 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,120 He did everything to me, man. 343 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,840 - Did you ever report anything? - To who? 344 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,680 We were 20 miles from the nearest town. 345 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,120 We weren't allowed mobiles, there was no internet. 346 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,760 Maybe that's why she was the way she was with me, you know, 347 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,280 cos of what he did to her. 348 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,080 But, yeah... 349 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,640 if you're looking for a killer... 350 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,640 speak to that fucking prick. 351 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,200 Hey. 352 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,400 Serge just called me. What the hell is going on, Kaz? 353 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,080 Love, I'm sorting it out, don't worry. 354 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:17,240 You're sorting what out? 355 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,520 He said you were being interviewed by British police. 356 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,960 It's fine. I'll call you later. I promise you, it'll be fine. 357 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,520 Karol? 358 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,320 - Bonjour. - Bonjour. 359 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,840 So, I'm sorry, but not only is our obsession 360 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,640 with balancing the books economically illiterate, 361 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,360 and not only is it morally wrong 362 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,840 to cut funding for the vulnerable, sick and needy, 363 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,680 - the absolute worst part of austerity - _ 364 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,840 - _ - is that it doesn't even work! 365 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,680 It turns out we are making ourselves poorer 366 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,560 as a nation, and that... 367 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,040 - So, what did you think? - His family lie very well. 368 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,960 So I need to know more about him. Anything and everything we can find. 369 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,560 - Guv. - Hi there. 370 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,000 Just coming to pick up my client. 371 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,800 He's being released on bail. 372 00:21:23,824 --> 00:21:25,524 _ 373 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,960 Should all be in order. 374 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,200 He had a number of mental health issues, 375 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,840 - the year or so before he left. - What sort of issues? 376 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,080 Er, anxiety, depression, 377 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:38,480 a degree of agoraphobia, I think. 378 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,640 - Brought on by anything specific? - Yeah. 379 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,960 Two assaults. One 2015, one '16. 380 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,960 Er, racially-motivated assaults. 381 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,600 Because he was Polish? 382 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,160 Because he was Jewish. 383 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,760 His nationality was probably just a bonus. 384 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,600 - OK. Where did these happen? - First one, late 2015, 385 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,040 just walking down the street wearing his kippa. 386 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,200 And the second one was outside a synagogue in February 2016. 387 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,480 Did he report any of these to the police? 388 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,200 The first one, yeah, but nothing happened. 389 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,160 So he didn't bother with the second. 390 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,040 And you think this is what might have precipitated his problems? 391 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,520 Well, his parents moved back to Poland for a time at that point, 392 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,960 and he was living by himself. 393 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,960 I just think he felt a bit isolated. 394 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,600 Bit lonely. 395 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,720 And you think this is what ultimately led him to resign? 396 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,440 Nothing I'm about to tell you is anything other than rumour, OK? 397 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,720 So if you want any kind of detail, you'll have to speak to HR. 398 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,920 OK. 399 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,640 And I qualify all of this with the fact that the Karol I met 400 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,680 when he first came here was a lovely, 401 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,760 kind, respectful, gentle man. 402 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,760 There was a rumour that he left 403 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,880 because of some inappropriate photos he took of a colleague. 404 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,240 On a stairwell. 405 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,280 Up-skirting? 406 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,680 Up-skirting. 407 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,200 We're just looking for more background information on him, 408 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,480 and we have you down as his probation officer, so... 409 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,160 Yeah. 410 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,240 Yeah, ten o'clock tomorrow, that'd be perfect. 411 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,880 I'll send a Zoom link. OK, thanks, bye. 412 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 - Hey, Guv. - Yep. 413 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,440 Got the result of the C&C trawl on 64 Waterman Road, 414 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,600 but we can do it tomorrow if it's too late now. 415 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,040 No, no, no. Go for it, go for it. 416 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,040 So, there's one incident in our timeframe. 417 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,520 It was on the 14th of June. 418 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,280 The call to the local nick from a resident of 23 Waterman 419 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,960 about a "violent row" outside 64 between two women. 420 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,040 The neighbour describes hearing one woman tell the other to, 421 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,200 "Fuck off, Mum." 422 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,680 So... 423 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,840 just 12 days before Precious's possible death, 424 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,040 and despite Ebele telling us 425 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,960 she hadn't seen her since her birthday on January 15th, 426 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,520 here is Ebele in contact with her. 427 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,640 Did a car get up there? 428 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,360 It did, but it had quietened down by then, 429 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,400 so no further action was taken. 430 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,680 So... 431 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,760 We have her shoplifting arrest on the 5th, 432 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,480 where she gave the Waterman Road address. 433 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,360 And then this incident on the... 14th? 434 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,520 Yep. 435 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,520 And then the social worker's visit on the 26th. 436 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,080 So that's nearly three weeks where she's living there in some capacity, 437 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:43,560 despite the house having been made secure at least a month previously. 438 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,280 So, how did she get in and out? 439 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,320 Had she broken in? 440 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:53,880 Stolen a set of keys? 441 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,960 OK, see if you can track down the attending officers. 442 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,160 - Thanks, Murray. It's great work. - Guv. 443 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,200 We're just trying to get 444 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,680 as much background on Joseph Bell as possible, 445 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,000 so I'll send you the link 446 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,400 and look forward to speaking to you then. 447 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,840 - OK, thanks. - OK. Bye now. 448 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,840 And I'm not remotely... pissed off with you. 449 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,080 How could I be? 450 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,360 You've never been anything other than completely honest about kids. 451 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,880 Sorry. 452 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,400 So there's no blame. 453 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,960 About that, anyway. 454 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,320 But that doesn't stop me from feeling sad. 455 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,400 Very sad, in fact. 456 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,560 Sorry. 457 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,080 Obviously, you've got nothing to apologise for. 458 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,920 When you say, "No blame about that anyway"... 459 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,680 Well, maybe you're not to blame for that either, because... 460 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,760 Y'know, that's grief, isn't it? 461 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,680 And I should say I slightly feel like 462 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,440 I'm not allowed to find it hard, or complain about it, 463 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,920 or anything, really. 464 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,400 But it is hard, Sunny. 465 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,840 To feel so... excluded. 466 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:33,760 So shut out. 467 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,800 And it's hard to feel jealous of a dead woman. 468 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,760 But I do. 469 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,160 Because, huh, here we are, nine months on, 470 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,440 with no hint of a wedding in sight. 471 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,040 No discussions, even. 472 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,480 And I keep thinking you'll bring it up, 473 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,000 cos I'm sure as hell not going to. 474 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:05,920 But you don't. 475 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,440 And even as I'm saying this, 476 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,760 I'm slightly hoping that you'll jump in and say, 477 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,840 "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's all OK. Let's set a date." 478 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,280 But you don't. 479 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,320 And I'm scared I know why... 480 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,080 - Take it. - No. 481 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,080 Take it, it's fine. 482 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Give me ten seconds. 483 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,400 Fran. 484 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,040 - Hey. How you doing? - Yeah... 485 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,680 Er, hang on. I'm east, boss man. The docks. 486 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,360 We just need to go over some paperwork. 487 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,520 Nah, nah. I need to get back to my girlfriend, bruv. 488 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,480 That's the only fucking reason I called him. 489 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,668 It'll take half an hour, I promise, 490 00:28:19,692 --> 00:28:21,840 and then I'll get you a car home. 491 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,120 For what it's worth, it was just once. 492 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,040 And I know nothing I can say will... 493 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,680 ever allow you to forgive me for that, nor should it, 494 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,560 but I am more sorry than I'll ever be able to say. 495 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,720 My fucking sister. 496 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,680 Literally. 497 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,960 Do you wanna tell me why? 498 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,360 I was lonely. 499 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,400 He said he was, too, and that you and he were finished. 500 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,880 When was this? 501 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,800 Three months ago. 502 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,880 You were on a course. 503 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,160 - I'd babysat the kids. - It was in our house?! 504 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,240 I'm so sorry. 505 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,720 Just... 506 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,800 Go. Just leave. Please. 507 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,360 D'you know what, Debbie? 508 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,400 If you weren't such a weak... 509 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,360 person, if you had... 510 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,800 even an ounce of backbone, you wouldn't have told me. 511 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,680 You'd have kept your shame to yourself. 512 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,480 - Hey. - _ 513 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,540 _ 514 00:30:02,564 --> 00:30:07,464 _ 515 00:30:07,488 --> 00:30:10,588 - _ - _ 516 00:30:10,912 --> 00:30:13,912 _ 517 00:30:13,936 --> 00:30:15,936 _ 518 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,460 _ 519 00:30:17,984 --> 00:30:20,984 _ 520 00:30:21,008 --> 00:30:23,008 _ 521 00:30:23,032 --> 00:30:25,032 _ 522 00:30:25,056 --> 00:30:27,056 _ 523 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,080 _ 524 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,000 I'm really sorry, I'm on a pick-up down in Fontainebleau. 525 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,760 Thanks for the heads up, though. Appreciate it, brother. Speak soon. 526 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,600 Veuillez laisser un message apres le bip. 527 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,960 Hey, it's me. 528 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,840 Listen, I'm gonna come back, see if I can get this sorted out. 529 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,440 I'll be about half an hour. Call me to let me know you got this. 530 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,720 Please. 531 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,760 Joseph. 532 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,880 Tony Hume. 533 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,760 Why have you brought me here, man? 534 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,920 That wasn't the deal. Why am I here? 535 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,440 Please. Sit down. 536 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,800 Shit! 537 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,320 So, all I want to know, really, Joseph is... 538 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,160 what you meant. 539 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,040 - What I said. - OK. 540 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,280 And what you said, as I recall, 541 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,120 is that your mother was Precious Falade, 542 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,400 and you were there that night. 543 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080 - You saw it all. - Yeah. 544 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,840 You were where? 545 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,939 A don like you must be so used to 546 00:33:26,963 --> 00:33:29,160 being able to control things, innit? 547 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,720 Being able to influence 548 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,120 and manipulate everything around you, yeah? 549 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,160 Whereas me... 550 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,560 I've had almost no control in my life. 551 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,520 Almost no power, innit? 552 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,200 I've had to take whatever life threw at me, bruv. 553 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,400 Had to learn how to adapt. 554 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,280 Very fucking fast, often to the next random event. 555 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,600 And it's funny, cos I've been so scared of you 556 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,520 since that very fucking random night. 557 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,720 So scared of what you could do to me if I told people what I knew. 558 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,360 Except now I'm in the room with you... 559 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,200 and I see it's you who's scared. 560 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,680 I don't blame you, as it goes. 561 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:18,400 Cos you got a lot to lose, man. 562 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,080 Who are you really, Joseph? 563 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,720 - What do you want? - Who am I? 564 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,600 I'm me, man. 565 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,440 And what I want... 566 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,080 is this. 567 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,680 Oh! 568 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Kids, bedtime. Come on. Brush your teeth. 569 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,720 Did you forget I was going out tonight? 570 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,880 Shit, erm... 571 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,640 I'm sorry, yeah. Yeah. 572 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,200 Pyjamas are on the bed. You're all good to go. 573 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:22,040 OK, thanks. Thanks. 574 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,920 Are you OK? 575 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,960 - She hasn't told you, has she? - Who? 576 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,880 Debbie. 577 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,480 Told me what? 578 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,000 Gran, we're ready! 579 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,720 Grab a glass of wine. I'll be back down in ten. 580 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,480 I'll shift my plans for tonight. 581 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,360 Thanks, Mum. 582 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,640 I'm back for a bit now, so you're all right, Jordan. 583 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,800 Safe. 584 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,640 I missed you. 585 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,480 I missed you too. 586 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,520 I just needed someone to look after me. 587 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,200 I know, but like I said, I'm here now, babe. 588 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,200 Yeah. 589 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,040 I can't forgive her, Mum. 590 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:40,280 We can't forgive her for this. You do understand that, don't you? 591 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,920 Your sister's not well, Jess. You know that. 592 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,080 Please. You can't always excuse her behaviour 593 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,880 because of anxiety or depression. 594 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,440 I'm anxious. 595 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,000 I'm depressed. I don't go round behaving like that. 596 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,880 I don't think I ever want to speak to her again. 597 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,080 And I don't think you should want to either. 598 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,760 - No DCI James? - Sorry. 599 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,680 We tried to give her all the support we could. 600 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,360 When Joseph was about 18 months old, 601 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,600 it was clear she wasn't caring for him properly, 602 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,440 and he was taken in to care.' 603 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,280 He'd often came in to nursery 604 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,880 hungry, in dirty clothes, often soiled. 605 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,080 She'd have punters coming in her house all day long. 606 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,760 I'd see him through the window, 607 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,280 sitting in front of the TV all day, on his own. 608 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,680 I mean, I did phone social services several times, 609 00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:01,920 but I'm not sure if anyone ever came. 610 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,320 "Oh, Miss, I fell." 611 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,680 "Oh, Miss, a friend accidentally kicked me playing football." 612 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:10,320 "Oh, Miss, I spilt a cup of tea on it." 613 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,440 When Joseph arrived late at night, gone ten, on his own, 614 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,080 in the back of a taxi 615 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,960 because cuts had meant there was no social worker to accompany him, 616 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,120 he was 13 years old. 617 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,000 I showed him his room, and he couldn't believe it 618 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,280 because it was clean and the bed had a duvet on it. 619 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,160 He stayed with us for nine months, and we applied for adoption... 620 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,520 er, but his mother blocked it 621 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,520 and eventually got him back in the end. 622 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,760 Mainly for the child benefit, I suspect. 623 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,680 It was one of the saddest days of my life, having to let him go. 624 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,520 Young Mr Bell was 17 when he arrived with us, 625 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,280 but old for his years, y'know? 626 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,440 Wily. Devious, even. 627 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,960 Never reluctant to use violence to get what he wanted. 628 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,520 Could he kill?' 629 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,680 I've no doubt. 630 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,520 - DCI James? - DI Khan. Sorry, hello. 631 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,400 - What happened? Where were you? - Where was I? 632 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,160 The Zoom calls about Joseph Bell. 633 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,360 Damn it. 634 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:24,920 I, erm... had some, erm... 635 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,320 Look, I'm... I'm really... I'm really sorry. 636 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,200 Can we just, erm... duck in here for a moment? 637 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:32,840 Yeah. 638 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,000 _ 639 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,680 I can't work like this. 640 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,720 Next to you but not with you. 641 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,400 I sat in this room earlier 642 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,360 and listened to various people talking about Joseph Bell, 643 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,440 and it was illuminating and heart-breaking, 644 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,200 and it gave me... 645 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,600 all sorts of insights and new ideas, 646 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,280 and you-you missed it all. 647 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,040 Now, I've recorded it, and I'll send you the links, 648 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,040 but it's not the same thing, is it? 649 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,240 Because we need to be in the room together. 650 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,920 We need to talk. 651 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,080 In your office, in the canteen, the pub. 652 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,120 We need to come up with a thousand stupid theories 653 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,280 and laugh at them and come up with better ones. 654 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,080 Because it's only by doing that, surely, 655 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,160 that we'll get to understand the people sitting opposite us. 656 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,080 I can't be her, DI Khan. 657 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,520 I'm not asking you to be. 658 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,720 All I'm saying is, there's a barrier between us, 659 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,240 and I would love it 660 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,480 if we could find a way of getting rid of it, 661 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,240 even if it's just for this case and then we go our separate ways. 662 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,200 And maybe it is my fault. 663 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,440 Apologies if it is. 664 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,480 I'm dealing with some personal issues that, er... 665 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,280 Well, I'm not exactly at the top of my game, 666 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,880 but I would love it if we could reset. 667 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,640 If we could just start again. 668 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,760 - Please. - What issues? 669 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,280 Yesterday... my fiancee... 670 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,160 had a miscarriage of a baby I didn't really want. 671 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,680 I am so sorry. 672 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,880 Thanks. Yeah, it was very early, but still. 673 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,880 It's complicated. 674 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,720 54 minutes before I started the job last week, my... 675 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,240 Excuse me. 676 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,920 my husband, erm... 677 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,560 my husband told me he'd been... 678 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,600 he'd been having an affair. 679 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,560 And, er... 680 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,080 Last night... 681 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,000 Last night, I discovered it was with my sister. 682 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,640 OK, you win. 683 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,520 Oh... 684 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,800 I'm really sorry, too. 685 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,920 I mean, that's... that's awful. 686 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,440 - Is there anything I can do? - Er, thanks. 687 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,200 Er, probably not. 688 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,920 But, erm... thank you. 689 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,880 And, er... 690 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,120 Er, we've... 691 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,520 got a result on the bullet. 692 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,120 What result? 693 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,400 It has the same striation marks as a bullet fired 694 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,360 in a 2015 robbery in Lisson Grove. 695 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,120 The gun was never recovered, 696 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,480 but an arrest was made of an Elton Paul King, 697 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,200 a known associate 698 00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:32,000 and fellow gang member of one Joseph Bell. 699 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,600 Call Earlmarsh, 700 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,800 see if we can organise another interview. 701 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,640 Do we know where this Mr King was at the time of Precious's murder? 702 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,240 Yeah, Winterstoke, six months into a ten stretch for the robbery. 703 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,040 He was released on parole last year. 704 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,905 OK, well, let's see if we can speak to him 705 00:44:50,929 --> 00:44:52,440 - ASAP, please. - Mm-hm. 706 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:03,400 So, er... So, yeah. 707 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,080 Just... Just so you know, this is not remotely... 708 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,560 who I am or how I work. 709 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,600 You know, this last week or so, it's not, erm... 710 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,840 So, you know, I'm... 711 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,280 I'm sorry. 712 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,200 And, er, of course... of course we need to talk. 713 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,240 So send me the Zooms, please. I really want to see them. 714 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,560 And then, erm... 715 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,080 Yeah, let's... 716 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,360 let's reset. 717 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,800 As per my email, 718 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,680 - if I were to decide to bring things forward... - _ 719 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,800 how much notice would you need? 720 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:58,000 *CREDITS*