1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:03,040 Everything's fine, Els, I promise. Please don't worry. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,560 My feeling is that we both need a bit of time apart. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,800 - Who is she? - It didn't mean anything. It's over. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,160 The bullet passed through the left lung, exiting here. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,800 If we find the bullet that killed her, 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,680 NABIS could even link us to a known offender. 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,720 Key information should really come to me first. 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,920 When you're in the office, I'll make sure they bring you stuff first. 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,040 I've decided I wanted shared custody now. 10 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:25,280 I'm not thinking I should have a termination. 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,000 Does that completely horrify you? 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,160 Taking advantage of a woman's inability to say "no" 13 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,920 because she's too drunk is not bloody funny. 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,200 I'm arresting you on suspicion of robbery and GBH. 15 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,720 What are you talking about?! 16 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,040 I am sorry. 17 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,120 So I'm giving you one last chance. 18 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:41,720 Our victim is also our thief. 19 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,320 Her name is Precious Falade. We're looking for a next of kin. 20 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,880 That would be her son or her mother. 21 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,120 We found a body in a house in Hammersmith, 22 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:51,840 and we believe that it's your daughter. 23 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,440 No! 24 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:56,560 - You don't recall ever visiting her there? - No. 25 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,720 - It told us what we needed. - Which is what? 26 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,080 That she was lying. 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:48,000 *CREDITS* 28 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,120 I've told you before, I'm not buying you Coco Hoops. 29 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,840 - But why not? - Cos they're not good for you. 30 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,920 They are, Mum. Honestly, I promise. 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,360 They're not good for me, then. Right, coats, bags. 32 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,960 There you are. 33 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,640 'Sorry, work's been mad.' 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,960 Have you spoken to Mum? Did she tell you what happened? 35 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,080 Yeah, listen, what time do you finish work? 36 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,800 - Can I come meet you? - Yeah, er... maybe six? 37 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,560 But, look, I can't guarantee anything. 38 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,000 I'm right in the middle of a... 39 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,240 'What about that place we went to before we saw Dolly?' 40 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,520 - Er, sure, but.. - I'm running into a meet. 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,360 - I'll see you at six? - Debs... 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,120 Sunny? 43 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,800 - "Bye, then." - I... um... 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,200 Miles away. Have a lovely day. 45 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,640 Erm, we'll talk later tonight, yeah? 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,760 - Sure. - Er... Erm, sorry. 47 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,520 I've got to take this. I'll be back home early. 48 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,080 OK? Love you. 49 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,320 Thomas, the plasterboard, what have you got for me? 50 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 _ 51 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,480 _ 52 00:03:55,504 --> 00:03:56,960 _ 53 00:03:56,984 --> 00:04:00,944 _ 54 00:04:00,968 --> 00:04:02,568 _ 55 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,920 The loneliness, the inequality, 56 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,680 the hostility at the time I was there. 57 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,240 It wears you down, man. 58 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,040 And down, and down. 59 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,960 Till you become someone who isn't you. 60 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,320 Someone you don't even like. 61 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,000 But apart from that... 62 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,000 _ 63 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,976 _ 64 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,900 _ 65 00:04:35,924 --> 00:04:38,924 _ 66 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,560 OK, so her friends, her family, any criminal associates. 67 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Where did she live? If she worked, where did she work? 68 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,880 Basically, the more we know about her, 69 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,040 the more chance we have of working out how she died. 70 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,600 So, Murray, let's see if she had a bank account, 71 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,880 ditto mobile phone. 72 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,760 I want to know when everything stopped - 73 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,320 her last phone call, last bank transaction. 74 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,568 Both could help determine date of death. 75 00:05:01,592 --> 00:05:02,320 Ma'am. 76 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,680 Er, any update on the C&C check on the house? 77 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,960 - Coming later today, apparently. - OK. 78 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,320 Er, so, we have now identified her mother 79 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,800 and had a preliminary chat with her. 80 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:16,320 Er, Karen, anything on Ebele Falade on PNC? 81 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,640 Yeah. Just a bit. Erm... 82 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,080 Multiple arrests. 83 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,400 All apart from one seem to be alcohol-related. 84 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Two D&D convictions, several thefts, several community penalties. 85 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,800 But then, back in 1986, we have an ABH charge 86 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:34,040 against a doorman of a City stockbrokers' office. 87 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,600 But here's the thing... it involved a firearm. 88 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,040 Any details on it? 89 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,560 Trying to see what we can dig up with the intel team. 90 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,920 And when did the other offences range from? 91 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,920 Early '80s to 2016. 92 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,720 OK. Erm... 93 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,880 So, we also now know that she had a grandson, 94 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,160 erm, Precious's son, Joseph. 95 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,000 Did you get anything more from social services on him, Frances? 96 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,800 Not a lot, Ma'am, erm... 97 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:03,408 Other than he was born in 1998 in Wales. 98 00:06:03,432 --> 00:06:04,280 OK. 99 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,280 Again, quite a criminal record. 100 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,640 Er, we have various theft charges, 101 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,720 lots of drugs... possession and supply... 102 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,640 and then a gang-related battery charge 103 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,440 for which he did six months 104 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,400 at Prestwythn Young Offenders in 2014. 105 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,120 - No current address for him. - OK. 106 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,640 Let's go back to social services 107 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,440 and see if we can find him through them in Wales. 108 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,480 Am I right in thinking that Precious was transferred 109 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,120 to West London Social Services at some point? 110 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,480 October 2015. 111 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,880 OK, well, let's speak to them, see what they can give us. 112 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,880 Again, check in with PNC and link in with intel. 113 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,640 There's obviously a common thread growing of drink and violence 114 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,120 which may be germane to Precious's death. 115 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,080 - Mm-hm. - OK. Any more for any more? 116 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,600 Just one more thing, Ma'am. 117 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,040 I did actually test the rest of the plasterboard... 118 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,720 ..and, erm, it is all from the '60s. 119 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,800 - There's no modern bit. - Right. 120 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,840 So... how does that work, then, given that we now know 121 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,560 that our victim is from 2016 at the earliest? 122 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,560 Well, the tech lab thinks it's been reused 123 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,360 because... 124 00:07:12,384 --> 00:07:13,984 _ 125 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,480 Sorry. Hang on. 126 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,780 - _ - Carry on. 127 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,200 Because they've used patches... 128 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,560 bits of, er, scrunched-up newspaper 129 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,320 that were used to fill in the bits that must have come off, 130 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,800 when it was taken down from wherever it was originally. 131 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,120 Why would you reuse plasterboard, though? Costs nothing. 132 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,520 Maybe if you were completely skint? 133 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,600 Maybe if you don't want any trace that you ever bought it? 134 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,120 I guess. 135 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,880 The more interesting thing, though, 136 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,160 is that the newspaper has a date on it. 137 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,560 Which means that if it was patched up when it went up, 138 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:56,400 then the chimney breast was covered on the 12th of July 2016. 139 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,200 OK, like that. 140 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,000 Thanks, everyone. 141 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,920 Oh, yeah, just one thing. 142 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,600 Can we lose the "Ma'am", everyone? 143 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,480 Just... "Guv" is fine. 144 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,080 "Guv" it is. 145 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,320 - DI Khan. - Sunny, it's Morten at the lab. 146 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,040 We've found blood. 147 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,680 'Lots of blood.' 148 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,320 Showing the suspect exhibit DS1. 149 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,760 It's a debit card in the name of Sophie Coulson, 150 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,680 found in the kitchen of the suspect. 151 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,360 - Do you recognise that? - No comment. 152 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,120 - Well, it's not yours, is it? - No comment. 153 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,880 So, how did this lady's card get there, in your kitchen? 154 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,520 - No comment. - Did you find it in the bag you stole from her? 155 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:12,560 No comment. 156 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,040 - How else could it have got there, then? - No comment. 157 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:20,800 OK. Er, now showing the suspect exhibit DS2. 158 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,280 This is CCTV footage 159 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,000 of the convenience store Treasure Corner. 160 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,400 Now... I think that's you there, fella. 161 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:33,400 No comment. 162 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,840 Because you've got a tattoo on your hand 163 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,880 - exactly just like this one here, haven't you? - No comment. 164 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,160 I can see it on your hand, right in front of me now. 165 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,480 No comment. 166 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,200 This is you, isn't it? 167 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,840 Using her card, stolen ten minutes before, 168 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,000 - half a mile away. Yeah? - No comment. 169 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,000 You find this boring? 170 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,760 - No comment. - I wonder if you'd find it boring 171 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,400 if I told you that the woman you mugged 172 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,440 was four months pregnant and very nearly lost her baby. 173 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,800 Is that boring? 174 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Can I have a cup of tea, man? Fuckin' parched. 175 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,920 Oh... 176 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:32,920 Oh... 177 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,440 The things they do to us. 178 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,600 The way they treat us. 179 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:49,240 How do they get away with it? Just... 180 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:54,960 How are they allowed to keep doing this? 181 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,360 "They"? 182 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,720 Who did you mean, "they"? 183 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,000 Do you mind? 184 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,760 This is a private moment with my dead daughter. 185 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,320 Can you... please leave? 186 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,360 Who did you mean? 187 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,480 Who do you think? Hm? 188 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,640 Men. 189 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:21,520 Cos that's who it'll be. A man. 190 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,600 It's always a man, isn't it? 191 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,760 I'll wait outside. 192 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,520 So, the CPS are happy to charge. 193 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:45,520 If you're cool, we'll get that done, and then we put him before the court 194 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:47,320 in the morning for a remand application. 195 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,920 - And what about bail? - He's not gonna get bail, Keith. 196 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,800 - Why? - Why d'you think? 197 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,440 His record, the crime, his total lack of any remorse. 198 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,320 He actually is remorseful. He just struggles to show it. 199 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,760 Yeah, well, maybe he can take some acting classes inside, then. 200 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,120 Funny! 201 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,040 Look, I know you're only doing your job, but, really? 202 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,000 You wanna fight for a bloke like that? 203 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,560 And I know you're only doing your job, but, yeah, I do, Phil. 204 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,160 You have literally zero idea of his story. 205 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,080 Yeah, well, I don't care about his story. 206 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,920 I care about the woman who nearly lost her child because of him. 207 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,640 But, hey, go for it, mate. 208 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:22,560 Apply for bail, and we'll turn it down. 209 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,160 So, 13, 14, 15 and 16, which were here to here. 210 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Is this the amount of pooling you'd expect from a gunshot wound? 211 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,240 Under a prone body, yes. 212 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,800 We also found evidence of smearing between here and the fireplace. 213 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,000 Had anyone made any attempt to clean it up? 214 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,680 Think so, yes. 215 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Because we found traces of cleaning materials, 216 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,000 but the blood had soaked deep into the wood, 217 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,880 so whoever tried to get rid of it, 218 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,960 they just wiped away the surface blood. 219 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,520 Can we test for DNA? Have we got enough material? 220 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:59,520 Absolutely. We're doing comparison tests with the victim right now. 221 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,320 - Apologies. - No worries. 222 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,680 Guv. 223 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,680 Ebele Falade has agreed to come in for a chat. 224 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,720 OK, wow, so soon. 225 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,480 You couldn't get enough of her yesterday. 226 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,840 'We'll be back at the nick in about 20, 227 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,160 'if you care to join me.' 228 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,040 - 20%? - Yes. 229 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,760 Babe, we were struggling to find a 10% deposit. 230 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,880 I know, but... if we want a baby, we'll need a bigger place, won't we? 231 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,200 So... we'll just need to tighten our belts, won't we? 232 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,040 So, you must think it very strange, my turning up like this. 233 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,200 And, er, in many ways, 234 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,280 I'm not entirely sure why I knocked on your door. 235 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,760 But I just, erm... 236 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,000 I played a game of table tennis with your son a few days ago. 237 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,520 Er, I saw something in him, a... 238 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,760 certain fire in his belly. 239 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,800 Reminded me of myself when I was his age. 240 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:47,120 Er, and, er, I-I know that life is tough around here, and... 241 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,760 I guess, I just wanted to ask 242 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,680 if there was anything I could do for you, Alaya? 243 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,600 A-And Mus. Your family. 244 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,640 Financially, or in any other way. 245 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,280 I studied economics, Lord Hume, back in Mogadishu. 246 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,040 So I knew who you were even before Mustafa talked about you. 247 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,880 And I am grateful for your kind offer, genuinely. 248 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,720 Mm. 249 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,160 But your money's not what we need. I mean, it might help us... 250 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,320 but what about our community, 251 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,520 our schools, our hospitals, our social care? 252 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,600 In fact, all the things your party de-funded for so many years. 253 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,440 Who sorts those out? 254 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,400 So I am sorry... 255 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,080 ..but I suspect money from you 256 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,560 would really be more for your benefit than ours. 257 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,160 So, we're just trying to get as much information as possible 258 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,480 about your daughter, 259 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,200 about the sort of life that she lived... 260 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,120 at the time we think she might have died. 261 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,920 Do you know yet when she did die? 262 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,160 We're now pretty sure it was between 263 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,440 the 4th of June and the 12th of July, 2016. 264 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,320 Here. 265 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:43,080 OK, so, yesterday, when we spoke, you seemed a little uncertain 266 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,480 about when it was that you last saw Precious. 267 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,840 You thought possibly in 2014 or '15? 268 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,520 It was actually January 2016. 269 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:58,040 It was her birthday, the 15th. I, er, checked an old diary. 270 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,320 And, er, she'd gone back down from Wales 271 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:06,520 and was living in emergency accommodation in Shepherd's Bush. 272 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,360 OK, so she was homeless? 273 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,800 - Yes. - She never lived with you? 274 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,760 Hm... She had at various points in the past, 275 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,760 but it was too difficult, with her... issues. 276 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,008 And the last time that you saw her, 277 00:17:25,032 --> 00:17:27,240 her son was with her at that point? 278 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,520 - No, he'd stayed up in Wales. - OK. 279 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,680 And, er, did you ever visit her there? 280 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,160 Once, many years ago. 281 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,360 OK, why just once? 282 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,480 Because of them. 283 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,440 - "Them"? - Yeah. 284 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840 The cult. 285 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,360 "The cult"? 286 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,240 When she was 15, she was abducted by a cult. 287 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,720 They recruited members in London, 288 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,840 and they found her bunking off school 289 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,000 in a park in Ealing. 290 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,480 And, yeah, they just brainwashed her. 291 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,480 Which cult was this? 292 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,240 The Family Of Blessed Light, they called themselves. 293 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,240 Did you ever report this to the police? 294 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,880 No. She said she wanted to go with them. 295 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,040 Sorry, you... you said she was "abducted". 296 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,040 Right, well, that's what she said... 297 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,280 ..a decade later when it was suddenly all my fault. 298 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,560 But, at the time, she said she wanted to go. 299 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,440 When she was 15? 300 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,000 She was a very strong-willed young woman, 301 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,800 very difficult to control, 302 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:01,760 endlessly suspended and expelled from many schools. 303 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,480 In the end, I thought it might actually be good for her. 304 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,080 Hard work in a remote farm, out of London. 305 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:10,720 So, this was when... when she first moved to Wales? 306 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,560 Mm. And I should also say 307 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,040 that she was pregnant at this point. 308 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,880 Er... By who? 309 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,920 She didn't say specifically, 310 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,200 but I think it was by him, the leader... 311 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,680 David Bell. 312 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,640 He... was 42 when he met Precious. 313 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,560 And how long did she live in Wales for? 314 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,360 On and off for about ten or 15 years. 315 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,800 She'd sporadically get tired of it 316 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,320 and move back to London for a year or two, and... 317 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:52,520 be unable to find work, or a place to live, erm... 318 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,240 So she'd steal or do escort work. 319 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,440 And when that failed, she'd move back. 320 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,880 And the cycle was repeated many times. 321 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,520 And she returned to Wales voluntarily? 322 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,120 How do you mean? 323 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,880 No-one came looking for her, the boy's father? 324 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,760 Not that I specifically saw, but he'd call her a lot, 325 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,920 and she was scared of him, definitely. 326 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,400 So he may well have come down on occasion. 327 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,800 Year after year, I... 328 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:31,160 I tried to help her. 329 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:37,720 And at a time when I had my own challenges with alcohol. 330 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:41,920 All long since sorted. 331 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,120 But eventually, you have to take care of yourself. 332 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,440 Help yourself, don't you? 333 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,440 So I, erm... 334 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,600 I cut-cut her off. 335 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:03,160 So, you cut her off after that last meeting? 336 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,080 Yeah. 337 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:07,440 And that would have been on her birthday? 338 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,480 Yes. 339 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,960 Was she using at this time? 340 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,000 - Yes. - Just meth? 341 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,800 Not sure. 342 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,520 - Did you know any of her dealers? - No. 343 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,040 And how did her son fit into... into that life? 344 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,120 Well, he didn't, really. 345 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,160 From what I understood from her, 346 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,400 he was raised between the cult and care. 347 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,040 And did you ever help her with him? 348 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,600 No. 349 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,920 OK. One last question. Er... 350 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Can I ask you about your 1986 firearms charge? 351 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,760 I'm sure it's all in your files. 352 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,720 So unless you're gonna arrest me, I think I've answered enough. 353 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,120 Precious had multiple issues. 354 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,920 Drink and drugs, obviously, but her primary issue was her FASD. 355 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,400 "FASD"? 356 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,160 Foetal alcohol spectrum disorder. 357 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,240 Oh, OK. We didn't know about that. 358 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,960 Huge part of her life. 359 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Arguably the cause of most of her problems. 360 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Learning difficulties, problems sustaining relationships, 361 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,120 self-medication, the fractured relationship 362 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,440 with her mother, obviously. I mean, the list goes on. 363 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,400 Yeah, her mother didn't mention any of this to us when we spoke to her. 364 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,240 From what I understood, the mother refused to accept the diagnosis. 365 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,880 Oh, OK. 366 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:05,640 And what was her general relationship with her mother like? 367 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,600 Terrible. They fought all the time. 368 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,880 - Ah. - Precious carried huge anger towards her, 369 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,560 which, oddly, her mother reciprocated. 370 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,120 What was the mother angry about? 371 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,120 The accusation, I guess. 372 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,400 Er, in my professional experience, 373 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,520 I'd say it was displacement for her own guilt. 374 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,800 - At what she'd done to her child? - Yeah. 375 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,000 D'you know if they ever fought physically? 376 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,080 All the time. 377 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:34,200 Would you say there was, like, one aggressor, or was it both or...? 378 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,040 I never had any experience of Precious being violent. 379 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,720 Again, from what she told me, 380 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,080 the aggression came entirely from Ebele. 381 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,400 So, what did you think? 382 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,720 I think she really didn't want to discuss her firearms offence, 383 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,360 and I think I wanna know more about the grandson and this cult. 384 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,240 Well... 385 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,840 if you want to grab a coffee, we can kick around some... 386 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,480 - Did the C&C on the house come back? - I'll check again now. 387 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,040 What about the phone and bank records? 388 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,520 Just made the application. Waiting for them to come through. 389 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,160 Where is everyone? Where's DC Willets? 390 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Still trying to identify the relative 391 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,520 who did the security work so had keys to the house. 392 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,720 - And Lingley? - Chasing stuff down, Guv. 393 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,480 Do you guys always work at this pace? 394 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,800 This is fucking glacial. 395 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,800 It takes as long as it takes, Ma'am. 396 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,040 Guv! How many times? Jesus! 397 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,360 - Sorry about that. - Not a problem. 398 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,000 Apparently, Precious Falade was a member of a cult in Wales 399 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,560 called The Family Of Blessed Light. 400 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,040 See what you can find out about them, please. 401 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,240 On it. 402 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,440 Just need to get a couple of signatures from you, please. 403 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,480 - Is that Friesz? - It is. 404 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,640 - Do you like him? - I like Dufy more. Or Derain. 405 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,760 - But Friesz is gully, still. - Right. 406 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,320 - Who got you into the Fauvists? - My dad. 407 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,000 D'you know what it means... "fauvist"? 408 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,360 Erm... "beast" or something, isn't it? 409 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,120 "Wild beast". 410 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,280 Yeah, I wonder why he thought I'd like 'em. 411 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,360 Listen, man, my girlfriend needs help, 412 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,400 with her habit and shit. 413 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,040 Is there any chance you could call my social worker 414 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,560 and ask him to visit her? 415 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,960 Your carriage awaits, sir. 416 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,840 - I'll see what I can do. - Ta. 417 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,680 - Her last team loved her. - Good for them. 418 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,440 And her references are all exceptional. 419 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,840 - Did you check the name at the top? - It's not even been a week. 420 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,320 Each day is worse than the last. 421 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:04,520 She's rude, she's permanently distracted. 422 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,760 - Unpleasant to my team. - Your team? 423 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,960 I didn't want to ease her in. I did it as a favour to you. 424 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,440 After you turned the job down. 425 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,880 - But these fast-track uni kids... - She's 39. 426 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,120 they just don't have the hours on the clock, Sir. 427 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,240 And when that inexperience impacts on my ability to do the job... 428 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,400 Just give it a bit more... 429 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,280 So I honestly think that Fran should step up. 430 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,320 She's more than capable. 431 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,200 You need to know that, right now, 432 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,160 this really isn't fucking working for me, Sir. 433 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,320 I looked after her from October to Feb, 434 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,200 then I went on maternity leave till early June. 435 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,080 And when I came back, my cover and I shared responsibility for her 436 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,400 till I was back up to speed. 437 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,720 OK, what was the name of your cover, please? 438 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,520 That was Karol Wojski. 439 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,920 - Carol... - No, Karol with a K, 440 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,240 and it's, er, W-O-J-S-K-I. 441 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,520 - Is Karol still here? - No, he left. 442 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,920 - And when was that? - Mid-2016. 443 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,560 So, he moved to another department or...? 444 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,680 No, he left social work completely, I believe. 445 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,840 OK. Does it happen a lot? 446 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,440 Pretty stressful job, 447 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,960 huge responsibilities, zero resources. 448 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,400 - Thank you, Government. - Yeah, join the club. 449 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,560 And so this is the last appointment anyone had with Precious? 450 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,320 - Correct, yeah. - So 26th of June? 451 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:47,240 - Yeah. - And the address given there 452 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,040 as her new home address is Waterman Road. 453 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,000 - Yeah. - OK. And Karol took this appointment? 454 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,320 - Yeah. - And he details seeing her at the house. 455 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:58,800 Yes. And these are the brief notes from that meeting. 456 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,828 Erm, these would normally have been written up in detail. 457 00:28:01,852 --> 00:28:02,840 OK. 458 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,160 "Son wants her to go back to sex work. 459 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,880 "I will investigate rehab, Precious is keen. 460 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,840 "Mother assaulted her again." Wow. 461 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,640 So, why weren't these notes written up properly? 462 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,160 Karol resigned the next day. 463 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,868 Be good to get contact details for Karol if you can, please. 464 00:28:24,892 --> 00:28:26,040 Sure. 465 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,600 You keep skirting around things, 466 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,200 but, really, why don't you just say it? 467 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,640 - Say what? - That you don't want a child with me. 468 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,520 Because it's not true. 469 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,080 So why do you keep mentioning money and priorities 470 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,080 and making me feel shit about it all? 471 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960 I'm really not trying to make you feel shit. 472 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,480 I'm just trying to articulate 473 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,080 some of the very real, practical difficulties facing us. 474 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,720 But, please, if you can see a simpler solution... 475 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,120 I'll work more hours. 476 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,160 You already work too many, as I am. 477 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,080 Between us, we do five fucking jobs, for Christ sakes. 478 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,520 I mean... 479 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,760 I don't want it to be like this any more than you do, 480 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,360 but given he is now going to make me spend money on a lawyer, 481 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,480 that really does have to be my priority. 482 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,640 You see that, don't you? 483 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,080 And I don't need to have a baby with you to prove to myself, 484 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,800 or, I hope, to you, how much I love you. 485 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,360 And what I need... 486 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,400 does that count for anything? 487 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,840 Of course it does. 488 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,360 I know it's incredibly important to you... 489 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,160 but, "I refer the honourable gentleman to my earlier answer." 490 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,720 - You think this is funny? - No. 491 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,160 - Because this isn't a joke to me, Lise. - I know! 492 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,520 - You'd two kids with that baboon and not one with me. - Please. 493 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,680 I mean, am I not good enough? 494 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,320 Is that what this is? The Untermensch? 495 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,360 I cannot believe you just said that. 496 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,908 And if she did do it deliberately... 497 00:30:19,932 --> 00:30:21,920 She didn't do it deliberately. 498 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,440 Why didn't I see it? Why didn't I do more to help her? 499 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,840 Cass's death was not your fault, Sunny. 500 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,080 It was just life. 501 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,520 Random, cruel, life. 502 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,680 Do you talk to Sal about this? 503 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,160 No. 504 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,360 D'you think maybe you should, or someone? 505 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,000 She finds it hard enough as it is. 506 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,360 I know she thinks I should have gotten over it by now. 507 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,440 - I know everyone does. - I don't. 508 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,960 I think about her too. 509 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,960 All the time. It still absolutely winds me. 510 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,920 So if you don't want to see someone about it... talk to me. 511 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,000 I'll always listen. I'm always here. 512 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,320 'OK, so you need...' 513 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,240 It should be on the authorisation request, just the name and address. 514 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,840 'Yeah, I've got it. 515 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,680 - 'What's the number?' - OK, yeah, so it's... 516 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,520 zero, seven, seven, zero, zero. 517 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,360 - 'Yep.' - Nine, zero, zero... 518 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,160 - Guv. - 'Sunny, hi.' 519 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,240 Erm, listen, first up, I'm sorry if I snapped earlier. 520 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,960 It was... It was uncalled for. 521 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,040 Yep. 522 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,240 So, erm, I just had a very interesting conversation 523 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,360 with Frances about Precious's social worker. 524 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,680 How would you feel about a trip to Paris, 525 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,960 where he lives, to speak to him? 526 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,040 Can't we just Zoom him? 527 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,640 We could, yeah, but as of now, 528 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,840 he's the last person to have seen her alive. 529 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,240 And the day after he did, he resigned. 530 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,360 And two weeks after that, he left the country. 531 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,880 'I think you'd wanna see the whites of his eyes.' 532 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,080 Sure. Why not? 533 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,520 Great, thanks. 534 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,160 - Guv. - Yeah? 535 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,520 Erm, so the relative who used to pop round 536 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,920 and check up on her, and the "LA" in the lawyer's notes, 537 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,360 that's Lord Anthony. 538 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,240 - As in Hume. - Tony Hume? 539 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,760 - Yeah. Mm-hm. - The Tory guy? 540 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,880 Man... 541 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,160 My local library was shut down cos of that twat. 542 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,080 Yep, well, it turns out that his wife 543 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,560 is the late owner's younger sister. 544 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,960 And he had keys to the property? 545 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,760 He's the one who changed all the locks. 546 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,400 OK. 547 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,720 And what could possibly connect the Tory Lord and the sex worker? 548 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,360 - OK, get digging on him. - Sure. 549 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,400 Actually, could you find me his address and text it to me? 550 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,600 - Yeah, no problem. - Thanks. 551 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,800 'Hi, this is Debbie, please leave a message.' 552 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,680 Hi, Debs. Look, erm, it's me. 553 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,720 I'm really sorry, I'm gonna have to bail tonight. 554 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,240 I'll talk to you soon. 555 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Hello, love. 556 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,160 - Where are you? - 'Yeah, sorry, I was gonna call you.' 557 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,280 I'm actually on the Eurostar. I've, erm... 558 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,240 gotta speak to a possible suspect in Paris. 559 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,440 I'm back tomorrow, though. 560 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,360 I... I think I'm miscarrying. 561 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,520 Oh, God. Oh, no. 562 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,640 - 'So sorry, Sal.' - I'm heading to my mum's. 563 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,520 D'you need to go to hospital? Shall I come back? 564 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,200 I can come straight back if you want me to. 565 00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:11,400 Hello, Sal? 566 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,000 Sal? 567 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:41,000 _ 568 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,880 Kaz? 569 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,280 - _ - _ 570 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,700 - _ - _ 571 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000 - _ - _ 572 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,900 _ 573 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,760 Yeah? 574 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,640 I was looking for Cheryl, Jay's girlfriend? 575 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,760 What about her? 576 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,320 - Does she live here? - Who wants to know? 577 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,680 I'm Jay's brief. 578 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,080 He was worried about her being on her own. 579 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,920 Tell him she's fine. I'm looking after her now. 580 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,360 Tell him she's fine. 581 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,900 _ 582 00:36:28,924 --> 00:36:32,424 _ 583 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:11,360 I think he's in his study. 584 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,840 Would you like me to...? Oh, hello, darling. 585 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,160 This lady is a detective. 586 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,800 She wants to talk to you about my sister's old house. 587 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,200 - Hello, Tony Hume. - I'm sorry to disturb you so late. 588 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:26,720 Not at all. Hazel's house, did you say? 589 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,240 Yes. I believe you were a key-holder after she died? 590 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,560 Yes, I was. 591 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,000 Just need to ask a some questions about that period. 592 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,160 Sounds intriguing. 593 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,600 Well, you can at least grill me in comfort. 594 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,040 Thank you. 595 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,360 - How absolutely tragic. - Indeed. 596 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,240 - 34's no age. - No. 597 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,280 And what a way to treat a body. 598 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,240 So, how can I help? 599 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,480 Well, we're trying to narrow down exactly when she died, 600 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,000 and we understand you might have had some access to the house 601 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,760 around May or June 2016? 602 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,760 I did. Some squatters had got into the property, 603 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,560 and a neighbour of Hazel's, who knew I used to visit her, 604 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,920 rang me at my office. 605 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,880 Can you remember roughly when this date was? 606 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,760 Well, I can check my diaries, but, erm... late May, I think. 607 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,520 I have a vague recollection it was during the Whitsun recess. 608 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,400 OK. And what happened then? 609 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,200 Well, I drove down there the day after the neighbour rang, 610 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:36,360 on my way here, in fact, and, er... basically just knocked on the door. 611 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,760 And someone answered? 612 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,880 They did. I told them who I was, 613 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,800 and that they couldn't be there and, er, 614 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,600 just tried to keep it fairly friendly. 615 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,240 - How many were there? - Two came to the door, and, er... 616 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,040 when they left, I counted five in total. 617 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,600 - Men, women? - Three men, two women. 618 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,280 And what was their reaction to you? 619 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,960 Oh... Hostile, extremely. 620 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,560 They basically told me, in no uncertain terms, to get lost, 621 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,160 and were very threatening. 622 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,520 - Physically? - Yes. 623 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,800 And you thought they looked capable of violence? 624 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,400 I mean, who knows? But, er... 625 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,520 Listen, they looked like addicts to me, 626 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,480 and I've seen enough in my charity sector work. 627 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,800 I know that an addict can be dangerous when they're sick, 628 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,840 so, erm... I was scared. 629 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,720 - So, how did you get them out? - Money. I offered them 500 quid. 630 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,200 - Which they accepted? - No. 631 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:28,000 They wanted a thousand, which is why I had offered them 500. 632 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,160 - And they accepted that? - Yes. 633 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,520 And left immediately? 634 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,240 - Within an hour or so. - OK. 635 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,040 And could I just ask why you didn't just call the police? 636 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,640 Well, I wasn't sure of our rights, 637 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,760 and, er, I didn't want a long, protracted legal battle. 638 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,440 We were already in the middle of one about the will. 639 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,920 I guessed that money would work, and it did. 640 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,600 So they... they left immediately. 641 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,840 That afternoon, I got a firm of locksmiths in. 642 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,720 The place was Fort Knox by the time they'd done. 643 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,400 - And there were no further problems? - Not as far as I was aware. 644 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,240 And what was the state of the house when you went in? 645 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,320 Disgusting. Damage and filth everywhere. 646 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,920 A lot of original features had been removed. 647 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,200 And the place smelt absolutely dreadful. 648 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,360 Oh, Lord. 649 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,400 She couldn't have already have been there, could she? 650 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,600 Erm... We're not sure, but, sorry, can I just, erm, go back? 651 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,760 What did you do with the new set of keys? 652 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,400 Well, I dropped them round to the solicitors. 653 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,320 - How soon after? - A few days, I think. 654 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,720 Hm. 655 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,000 Oh. Yeah, actually, it was, erm, five weeks later. 656 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,000 Any reason for that delay? 657 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,880 No. Just busy, I guess. 658 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,640 Course. 659 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:50,920 And finally, can I just show you a picture of the victim? 660 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,800 Does her face look familiar at all? 661 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,520 No. 662 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,640 Didn't see her at the house? 663 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,080 No, not that I recall. 664 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,560 Take a good look. 665 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,720 - No, sorry, I don't recognise her. - Thank you. 666 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,280 I mean, just to reiterate... for what it's worth... 667 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,680 from my encounter with them, 668 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,760 they did look like very unpleasant people. 669 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,120 Capable of anything. 670 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,240 - I'll leave you in peace. - Mm. 671 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,240 - Hello? - 'Hi, is that Karen?' 672 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,360 - Kaz, yeah. - 'It's DCI James.' 673 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,400 Oh, good evening, Ma'am. Guv. 674 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,480 Karen, the neighbour you spoke to, 675 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,280 what did they say the squatters were like? 676 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,080 'Erm, yeah...' 677 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,680 "Nice", as I remember. 678 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,800 "Gentle, polite". "Sweet". I think that was the word. 679 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,880 - "Sweet". - 'Mm.' 680 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,960 Great. OK, er, thanks, Karen. Night. 681 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,440 Good night, Ma'am. 682 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,640 Guv. 683 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,280 'Welcome to the messaging service.' 684 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,080 'I'm sorry, but the person you have called is not available. 685 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,080 'Please leave your message after the tone.' 686 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,120 What did you do? 687 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,640 Call me. 688 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,320 Everything all right? 689 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,560 Do you, er, remember those squatters 690 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,600 that, er, I chucked out just after Hazel died? 691 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,688 Yes. 692 00:43:12,712 --> 00:43:15,880 One of them must have got back in somehow, and... 693 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,000 they think taken an overdose, and then... 694 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,560 very sadly, died. 695 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,640 How awful. 696 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,040 Isn't it? 697 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:30,000 Anyway... I need a drink. You want one? 698 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,480 Hello, love. It's me again. 699 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,880 Erm, couldn't get through to you at your mum's. 700 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,000 Erm, call me when you can. I hope you're OK. 701 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,640 Lots of love. 702 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,380 - _ - Erm... 703 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,680 _ 704 00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:43,532 _ 705 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,640 - Merci. - _ 706 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,040 - Yeah? - Oui. 707 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,200 'Bele, where are you? 708 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:54,760 'We've got the VC meeting tomorrow, and-and now I'm really worried. 709 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,040 'Call me.' 710 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,760 'Please leave your message after the tone.' 711 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,280 You don't know me, but I know you. 712 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,480 My mother was Precious Falade, and I was there that night. 713 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,040 I was there. 714 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,520 And I saw it all. 715 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:52,000 *CREDITS*