1 00:00:00,093 --> 00:00:02,482 I've taken on a missing person case. 2 00:00:03,466 --> 00:00:07,845 Margot Bamborough, missing since 1974. 3 00:00:08,452 --> 00:00:10,571 You thought she was seeing someone else? 4 00:00:10,595 --> 00:00:15,954 I met other men whose women had gone missing and it destroyed them. 5 00:00:15,978 --> 00:00:18,474 What did your dad think happened to Margot Bamborough? 6 00:00:18,498 --> 00:00:20,634 He thought, on balance, it was probably Creed. 7 00:00:20,658 --> 00:00:24,487 We found parts of his victims in the sink, in the bath, 8 00:00:24,511 --> 00:00:25,500 in the fridge. 9 00:00:25,524 --> 00:00:28,019 Most people do think Dennis Creed killed Margot. 10 00:00:28,043 --> 00:00:31,474 Oh, Mr Strike? I have proof of who killed Margot Bamborough. 11 00:00:31,498 --> 00:00:32,978 I have a written confession. 12 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:20,000 *CREDITS* 13 00:01:24,278 --> 00:01:27,980 When Louise was born, she became my whole world. 14 00:01:29,364 --> 00:01:32,420 I loved raising that little girl. 15 00:01:32,445 --> 00:01:34,840 She was so spirited, you know? 16 00:01:35,657 --> 00:01:37,457 Couldn't wait to grow up. 17 00:01:40,658 --> 00:01:43,148 When all her friends started walking home, 18 00:01:43,172 --> 00:01:46,698 I thought, "Come on, Brian, let her go a bit." 19 00:01:49,608 --> 00:01:52,368 I thought I'd taught her how to be safe. 20 00:01:54,688 --> 00:01:58,208 But you can't really imagine a man like Dennis Creed. 21 00:01:59,648 --> 00:02:02,544 Oh, but I know all about him now. 22 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,024 I know he killed my Lou, 23 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,064 and I got proof he killed Margot Bamborough. 24 00:02:08,088 --> 00:02:11,144 There's a good chance he killed Kara Wolfson, as well. 25 00:02:11,168 --> 00:02:15,024 We believe Kara Wolfson was probably killed by a gangster. 26 00:02:15,048 --> 00:02:16,504 Keep that to yourself. 27 00:02:16,528 --> 00:02:18,320 We're hoping the police will investigate. 28 00:02:19,688 --> 00:02:21,744 Poor old Terry. 29 00:02:21,768 --> 00:02:25,824 He went to his grave not knowing where his sister was. 30 00:02:25,848 --> 00:02:27,704 That's what I'm afraid of. 31 00:02:27,728 --> 00:02:31,944 Once I'm gone, who's going to find my girl? 32 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,488 Normal people don't understand what it means to get a body back. 33 00:02:38,928 --> 00:02:40,584 I'm sorry. 34 00:02:40,608 --> 00:02:42,184 That's very hard. 35 00:02:42,208 --> 00:02:45,864 Well, it's frustrating because I could tell the police 36 00:02:45,888 --> 00:02:48,688 a dozen places they should dig, but... 37 00:02:49,888 --> 00:02:52,464 ..it's a lot of money, Creed's in Broadmoor, 38 00:02:52,488 --> 00:02:56,464 so what's the value to them, eh? 39 00:02:56,488 --> 00:02:59,624 Could you show us what you've got in terms of Margot? 40 00:02:59,648 --> 00:03:01,100 Oh, yeah. 41 00:03:02,888 --> 00:03:07,704 You can't use this till you're sure you've got a case. 42 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:10,380 That's because how I got hold of it. 43 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,064 I'd get my mate into trouble. 44 00:03:13,088 --> 00:03:14,384 Thank you. 45 00:03:14,408 --> 00:03:16,744 After Creed was banged up in Wakefield, 46 00:03:16,768 --> 00:03:19,160 I used to go up there on the weekends. 47 00:03:19,488 --> 00:03:24,544 I got friendly with the guards, you know, drinking down the local. 48 00:03:24,568 --> 00:03:26,620 They hated Creed. 49 00:03:27,048 --> 00:03:32,008 But one of them nicked this out of his cell and gave it to me. 50 00:03:33,048 --> 00:03:35,024 "She tells me I need treatment. 51 00:03:35,048 --> 00:03:37,784 "Her strategy is laughably transparent. 52 00:03:37,808 --> 00:03:40,824 "I have her chained, I am whipping her, 53 00:03:40,848 --> 00:03:44,784 "but she still believes her medical training makes her superior. 54 00:03:44,808 --> 00:03:47,664 "Her true education has only just begun." 55 00:03:47,688 --> 00:03:49,744 - Does he name Margot? - No, no, no, no. 56 00:03:49,768 --> 00:03:53,624 But he was writing his memoirs. 57 00:03:53,648 --> 00:03:56,528 Has Creed ever spoken about Margot? 58 00:03:57,928 --> 00:03:59,940 That's not how he works. 59 00:04:00,568 --> 00:04:02,168 He never helps. 60 00:04:03,140 --> 00:04:06,196 The thing he likes is games. 61 00:04:06,368 --> 00:04:07,944 Yeah, games. 62 00:04:08,420 --> 00:04:10,004 I'll show you what I mean. 63 00:04:10,028 --> 00:04:12,448 You'll have to come up to Lou's room. 64 00:04:16,368 --> 00:04:18,424 This is where I do my studying. 65 00:04:18,448 --> 00:04:20,900 It feels like Lou's with me, you know? 66 00:04:22,288 --> 00:04:25,704 Erm, in the 1980s, 67 00:04:25,728 --> 00:04:29,648 they let me write to him, and that's what he wrote back. 68 00:04:31,608 --> 00:04:33,344 "Your letter reached me a week ago. 69 00:04:33,368 --> 00:04:35,384 "Ordinarily, I would not be permitted..." 70 00:04:35,408 --> 00:04:38,104 It's a long letter. Let me save you the trouble. 71 00:04:38,128 --> 00:04:42,744 Have a look at the first letter of each sentence. 72 00:04:42,768 --> 00:04:45,464 Y. O. U. R... 73 00:04:45,488 --> 00:04:46,904 Your. 74 00:04:46,928 --> 00:04:49,064 The whole thing spells, 75 00:04:49,420 --> 00:04:54,584 "Your daughter cried for her mummy before she died." 76 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,384 Now, he never signed his letters, "Ever yours, Dennis", 77 00:04:59,408 --> 00:05:00,784 not to anyone else. 78 00:05:00,808 --> 00:05:06,104 He did it because he needed the E-D of "ever" and "Dennis" 79 00:05:06,128 --> 00:05:08,940 to finish the word "died". 80 00:05:09,608 --> 00:05:11,824 - Did you show this to the police? - No, no. 81 00:05:11,848 --> 00:05:15,104 He knew I wouldn't because then they'd stop him writing 82 00:05:15,128 --> 00:05:17,984 and there's even less chance for me to get something from him. 83 00:05:18,008 --> 00:05:21,184 Now, Creed, he won't talk to me. 84 00:05:21,208 --> 00:05:23,544 I'm just something he plays with. 85 00:05:23,568 --> 00:05:27,024 But, you, ah, now you're famous. 86 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:29,860 He might just talk to you. 87 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:33,824 I'm sorry for everything you've gone through, but... 88 00:05:33,848 --> 00:05:36,144 Listen, I'm still going through. 89 00:05:36,168 --> 00:05:38,424 He'd see you as a challenge. 90 00:05:38,448 --> 00:05:41,208 You're something he can boast about. 91 00:05:42,528 --> 00:05:46,144 Our client won't want us to take that kind of risk. 92 00:05:46,168 --> 00:05:48,504 She asked for a very discreet investigation. 93 00:05:48,528 --> 00:05:49,778 If Creed told the papers 94 00:05:49,802 --> 00:05:51,424 - he's meeting us... - I'll pay you, then! 95 00:05:51,448 --> 00:05:53,304 Look, I'll sell some stuff. 96 00:05:53,328 --> 00:05:55,400 Let me be the client. 97 00:05:56,008 --> 00:05:58,024 You don't understand. 98 00:05:58,048 --> 00:06:02,824 I mean, I was Lou's dad and I couldn't take care of her, 99 00:06:02,848 --> 00:06:04,740 couldn't keep her safe. 100 00:06:05,088 --> 00:06:10,540 I mean, she's in my head first thing when I wake up every day. 101 00:06:11,648 --> 00:06:15,704 And bringing her home's the last thing I can do for her. 102 00:06:15,728 --> 00:06:17,664 I need your help. That's... 103 00:06:17,688 --> 00:06:19,620 I'm sorry, I need your help. 104 00:06:22,008 --> 00:06:25,720 We will try our best to help you find your daughter. 105 00:06:27,208 --> 00:06:29,384 Send me your fees. I'll pay. 106 00:06:29,408 --> 00:06:31,768 No, no. It's OK. No charge. 107 00:06:46,568 --> 00:06:49,464 I'll do all the work. I'll do it in my spare time. 108 00:06:49,488 --> 00:06:51,184 It's not like I've got a life. 109 00:06:51,208 --> 00:06:53,864 You won't even have to hear about it. 110 00:06:55,128 --> 00:06:56,944 He tried to help us find Margot. 111 00:06:56,968 --> 00:07:00,440 That bit of writing isn't even close to being a confession. 112 00:07:01,128 --> 00:07:02,864 Reads like a fantasy. 113 00:07:02,888 --> 00:07:06,384 OK, but if he is right about Creed, 114 00:07:06,408 --> 00:07:08,389 then Creed is our only chance of finding Margot. 115 00:07:08,413 --> 00:07:10,840 Creed doesn't help people. 116 00:07:11,448 --> 00:07:15,800 So Brian Tucker spent half a century working on his daughter's case. 117 00:07:16,648 --> 00:07:18,760 How long are you going to give it? 118 00:07:20,568 --> 00:07:22,544 Until I solve it. 119 00:07:22,568 --> 00:07:23,888 I think... 120 00:07:24,888 --> 00:07:28,024 ..even if he dies, at least he knows someone's still trying 121 00:07:28,048 --> 00:07:29,304 to find his daughter. 122 00:07:29,328 --> 00:07:31,440 I think that's worth something, don't you? 123 00:07:33,368 --> 00:07:35,660 Yeah, I do. 124 00:07:38,088 --> 00:07:40,780 I know Kara Wolfson probably won't get justice 125 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,704 and I know we probably won't find Margot, 126 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,024 but I can't let them all go. 127 00:07:47,048 --> 00:07:48,568 I just can't. 128 00:07:52,888 --> 00:07:54,528 I think I need a pint. 129 00:08:05,488 --> 00:08:07,184 What is that? 130 00:08:07,208 --> 00:08:08,538 Pat made it. 131 00:08:08,562 --> 00:08:10,297 She saw the pictures on my wall, 132 00:08:10,321 --> 00:08:13,000 - thought I might like a portable version. - Oh. 133 00:08:13,448 --> 00:08:15,168 You like her, don't you? 134 00:08:18,088 --> 00:08:20,904 In terms of people we haven't spoken to who are still alive, 135 00:08:20,928 --> 00:08:24,104 at least as far as we know, there's Steve Douthwaite. 136 00:08:24,128 --> 00:08:27,224 Last seen, working at Baxton's, Canvey Island. 137 00:08:27,248 --> 00:08:28,824 There's no trace of him. 138 00:08:28,848 --> 00:08:31,104 I've searched every record I can think of. 139 00:08:31,128 --> 00:08:33,780 I've searched for Steve Jacks, as well. There's nothing. 140 00:08:35,448 --> 00:08:37,440 Satchwell's still ignoring our calls. 141 00:08:37,464 --> 00:08:39,660 His alibi's as solid as it gets, though. 142 00:08:40,608 --> 00:08:42,144 I think Anna would appreciate it 143 00:08:42,168 --> 00:08:44,984 if we could rule out him and Margot having an affair. 144 00:08:45,008 --> 00:08:48,128 I think we might need to change our approach with him. 145 00:08:49,408 --> 00:08:52,944 And Dennis Creed, we should at least go over the evidence again. 146 00:08:52,968 --> 00:08:54,193 There are still questions. 147 00:08:54,217 --> 00:08:56,888 _ 148 00:08:57,928 --> 00:08:59,024 Uh-huh. 149 00:09:01,608 --> 00:09:03,384 I'd better take this. 150 00:09:03,408 --> 00:09:04,740 Hi, Lucy. 151 00:09:05,034 --> 00:09:07,610 - When can you come down? - Why, has something happened? 152 00:09:07,768 --> 00:09:09,544 Just try and come this weekend, 153 00:09:09,568 --> 00:09:12,248 and can you post any photos you found for the album? 154 00:09:13,408 --> 00:09:15,704 I don't think it can wait until Christmas. 155 00:09:15,728 --> 00:09:17,224 Can you do it today? 156 00:09:17,248 --> 00:09:19,480 I'm on it. Bye. 157 00:09:21,888 --> 00:09:25,128 I need to take care of something I said I'd sort for Joan. 158 00:09:26,288 --> 00:09:27,928 I'll make a start on Creed. 159 00:10:41,928 --> 00:10:45,980 I'm Johnny Rokeby and this is your invitation to celebrate... 160 00:10:58,368 --> 00:11:01,504 You ran a shop in Clerkenwell in the 1970s. 161 00:11:01,528 --> 00:11:02,864 Your logo was a big sunfl... 162 00:11:02,888 --> 00:11:04,104 A sunflower, yes. 163 00:11:04,128 --> 00:11:06,864 I just wondered, did you have a delivery van? 164 00:11:06,888 --> 00:11:08,104 Yeah, we did. 165 00:11:08,128 --> 00:11:10,104 We had a full-time driver and all. 166 00:11:10,128 --> 00:11:11,640 No phones in here, please. 167 00:11:22,608 --> 00:11:24,928 Have you a cigarette? I'm out. 168 00:11:33,528 --> 00:11:35,500 I'm having a curry delivered. 169 00:11:36,008 --> 00:11:37,624 Do you want a curry? 170 00:11:37,648 --> 00:11:40,824 I can't do all them chillies. Wrecks my guts. 171 00:11:40,848 --> 00:11:43,784 This place does other things as well. 172 00:11:43,808 --> 00:11:45,328 Do you like chicken? 173 00:11:47,048 --> 00:11:49,008 I'll get you some chicken. 174 00:11:57,688 --> 00:11:58,984 - Morning. - Morning. 175 00:11:59,008 --> 00:12:00,744 Afternoon. 176 00:12:00,768 --> 00:12:02,784 I've rung the council. 177 00:12:02,808 --> 00:12:05,824 There were poppadoms on our doorstep this morning 178 00:12:05,848 --> 00:12:08,864 and what looked like chicken tikka masala. 179 00:12:08,888 --> 00:12:10,220 Disgusting. 180 00:12:11,728 --> 00:12:12,984 Robin here yet? 181 00:12:13,008 --> 00:12:15,528 She's been in then she went out again. 182 00:12:18,048 --> 00:12:21,024 Sam, I need you to be an obnoxious arsehole. 183 00:12:21,048 --> 00:12:22,451 What do you reckon? 184 00:12:22,475 --> 00:12:24,460 I'll have to dig deep. 185 00:12:25,168 --> 00:12:27,024 Paul Satchwell lives on Kos. 186 00:12:27,048 --> 00:12:30,344 Call his gallery, his local bars, supermarkets, 187 00:12:30,368 --> 00:12:31,864 anywhere that might know him. 188 00:12:31,888 --> 00:12:33,864 Friends, neighbours. 189 00:12:33,888 --> 00:12:36,344 Leave messages that are going to annoy him. 190 00:12:36,534 --> 00:12:38,318 Make sure you leave our number for him. 191 00:12:38,342 --> 00:12:39,320 Got it. 192 00:12:42,008 --> 00:12:43,704 It's just so nice to see you again. 193 00:12:43,728 --> 00:12:47,704 Sorry to ask a favour, but I know you've got friends in high places. 194 00:12:47,728 --> 00:12:49,624 Well, one or two. 195 00:12:49,648 --> 00:12:51,784 They're a ruthless bunch, really. 196 00:12:51,808 --> 00:12:54,584 My stock's not what it was, but if I can help, I will. 197 00:12:54,608 --> 00:12:55,824 What is it? 198 00:12:55,848 --> 00:12:59,704 I need to get permission to talk to a prisoner in Broadmoor. 199 00:12:59,728 --> 00:13:01,144 Dennis Creed. 200 00:13:01,168 --> 00:13:02,864 Ooh. Very nasty. 201 00:13:02,888 --> 00:13:04,424 What's it about? 202 00:13:04,448 --> 00:13:07,420 The family of one of his alleged victims is our client. 203 00:13:07,808 --> 00:13:11,064 That's probably all we should tell him. 204 00:13:11,327 --> 00:13:14,647 He's been linked to a number of missing women. 205 00:13:15,688 --> 00:13:17,304 OK. 206 00:13:17,820 --> 00:13:20,624 I think I might know who to flatter and cajole at the MoJ. 207 00:13:20,648 --> 00:13:21,784 Great. 208 00:13:21,808 --> 00:13:23,184 Any Christmas plans? 209 00:13:23,208 --> 00:13:25,744 Going home, up to Masham in Yorkshire. 210 00:13:25,768 --> 00:13:27,304 How about you? 211 00:13:27,328 --> 00:13:29,368 I'll stay with my sister and... 212 00:13:30,368 --> 00:13:33,080 I don't think I can see my brother just yet. 213 00:13:33,608 --> 00:13:35,248 Not quite ready. 214 00:13:37,088 --> 00:13:39,960 If you'd like to get a drink in the new year, I'd love to catch up. 215 00:13:40,568 --> 00:13:42,904 I'd like that very much, Venetia. 216 00:13:53,888 --> 00:13:55,024 Hello. 217 00:13:55,048 --> 00:13:57,700 Hi. This is Beth Spencer returning your call. 218 00:13:59,808 --> 00:14:01,008 Sorry...? 219 00:14:01,921 --> 00:14:03,737 I'm a social worker. 220 00:14:03,888 --> 00:14:06,380 I work with Delia and Samhain Athorn. 221 00:14:06,768 --> 00:14:08,460 Yeah. Um... 222 00:14:09,008 --> 00:14:11,504 Samhain said you told him 223 00:14:11,528 --> 00:14:16,048 Margot Bamborough was killed by a local gangster called Nico Ricci. 224 00:14:17,128 --> 00:14:19,144 Um... Can I ask you, 225 00:14:19,168 --> 00:14:21,944 did he bring up his dad killing people with magic? 226 00:14:21,968 --> 00:14:23,664 Yeah, we heard something like that. 227 00:14:23,688 --> 00:14:26,024 Ah, well, that's why I did it. 228 00:14:26,048 --> 00:14:28,184 Their neighbours already think they're odd. 229 00:14:28,208 --> 00:14:30,624 We don't need people thinking they're dangerous. 230 00:14:30,648 --> 00:14:32,864 I actually got the name from Samhain. 231 00:14:32,888 --> 00:14:34,824 He's obsessed with local gangsters 232 00:14:34,848 --> 00:14:37,024 and seeing as he struggles with names, 233 00:14:37,048 --> 00:14:38,624 I thought I'd use the one he knew. 234 00:14:38,648 --> 00:14:40,483 It's just good to clear that up. 235 00:14:40,508 --> 00:14:41,970 Have you been working with them long? 236 00:14:41,995 --> 00:14:43,811 Only a few years. 237 00:14:44,208 --> 00:14:45,544 Anything else? 238 00:14:45,568 --> 00:14:47,904 Uh, thank you. 239 00:14:47,928 --> 00:14:49,248 OK. Bye. 240 00:14:50,488 --> 00:14:51,944 You've been busy. 241 00:14:51,968 --> 00:14:56,424 Yeah. Trying to clock off early so I can start cooking. 242 00:14:56,448 --> 00:14:58,688 Well, if you've got any leftovers... 243 00:14:59,808 --> 00:15:01,984 I'm cooking for you. 244 00:15:02,008 --> 00:15:03,384 Eh? 245 00:15:03,408 --> 00:15:05,704 - Max's dinner party. - Yeah... 246 00:15:05,728 --> 00:15:07,864 My brother's coming too. 247 00:15:07,888 --> 00:15:10,860 Right. Really looking forward to it. 248 00:15:11,268 --> 00:15:16,484 The phone box is on the junction with Albemarle Way. 249 00:15:16,521 --> 00:15:18,937 - The van was seen... near the green. - Oh, yeah. 250 00:15:19,088 --> 00:15:21,344 I found out some stuff about the van. 251 00:15:21,368 --> 00:15:25,424 There was a wholefoods store that used a delivery van. 252 00:15:25,448 --> 00:15:26,676 I spoke to the driver. 253 00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:29,664 He admitted he WAS speeding in the area at the time 254 00:15:29,688 --> 00:15:32,984 and he didn't come forward because basically he didn't want 255 00:15:33,008 --> 00:15:34,864 to get embroiled in a police inquiry. 256 00:15:34,888 --> 00:15:36,568 The van wasn't Creed. 257 00:15:38,408 --> 00:15:41,540 I don't think the struggle near the phone box adds up. 258 00:15:42,008 --> 00:15:44,504 Creed went for women who were drunk or vulnerable. 259 00:15:44,528 --> 00:15:46,920 He'd fool them into drinking something he'd spiked. 260 00:15:47,368 --> 00:15:50,664 Margot was sober, in a rush to meet her friend. 261 00:15:50,688 --> 00:15:52,944 I don't see why she'd have stopped to talk to him. 262 00:15:52,968 --> 00:15:55,304 Well, we know that wasn't Margot. 263 00:15:55,328 --> 00:15:57,328 The two women came forward and they said 264 00:15:57,352 --> 00:15:59,408 it was them the witness saw. 265 00:16:01,048 --> 00:16:03,984 Do we have the interview Simon Layborn did with that witness? 266 00:16:04,008 --> 00:16:05,464 Yes, it is just... 267 00:16:05,488 --> 00:16:06,980 Oh. 268 00:16:08,448 --> 00:16:11,544 Tell Mr Satchwell that I can't post his sex toys 269 00:16:11,568 --> 00:16:14,064 until he confirms his size, OK, sweetheart? 270 00:16:14,088 --> 00:16:15,608 Thank you. 271 00:16:17,208 --> 00:16:19,784 That was the gallery he sells his paintings at. 272 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:22,144 Are you all right with making a living doing that? 273 00:16:22,168 --> 00:16:23,704 I'm delighted, Pat. 274 00:16:23,728 --> 00:16:25,328 I think I've found my calling. 275 00:16:28,387 --> 00:16:32,803 Interview with witness Ruby Elliot, conducted on 7th May 1975. 276 00:16:32,888 --> 00:16:35,024 I was looking for my son's new house. 277 00:16:35,048 --> 00:16:37,304 I'd gone around the same streets at least twice, 278 00:16:37,328 --> 00:16:39,944 trying to read a map, people honking if you stop. 279 00:16:39,968 --> 00:16:41,744 Everyone is so angry in London. 280 00:16:41,768 --> 00:16:44,608 - You're not wrong about that! - Anyway, I pull over... 281 00:16:46,408 --> 00:16:49,824 ..and I see two women ahead of me near a phone box. 282 00:16:49,848 --> 00:16:52,304 It looks like they're... not having a fight, 283 00:16:52,328 --> 00:16:54,024 but it's definitely something. 284 00:16:54,048 --> 00:16:57,104 I think the short one was trying to make the other one walk faster, 285 00:16:57,128 --> 00:16:59,304 but there was a bit of shoving, maybe. 286 00:16:59,328 --> 00:17:00,544 And what did you make of it? 287 00:17:00,568 --> 00:17:03,104 Well, I thought maybe one of them had had too much to drink. 288 00:17:03,128 --> 00:17:05,384 I didn't think about it all that much at the time. 289 00:17:05,408 --> 00:17:07,224 Did you get a good look at them? 290 00:17:07,248 --> 00:17:09,304 The tall one had a raincoat on 291 00:17:09,328 --> 00:17:13,024 and the short one had a plastic rain hood over their head. 292 00:17:13,048 --> 00:17:15,200 I'm afraid I didn't see their faces. 293 00:17:15,648 --> 00:17:18,664 I gather when you spoke to Detective Inspector Talbot, 294 00:17:18,688 --> 00:17:22,200 he thought one of them might have been a man? 295 00:17:22,728 --> 00:17:26,104 I felt like he wanted me to say that, but, I mean, I don't know. 296 00:17:26,128 --> 00:17:28,064 I can't be sure. 297 00:17:28,260 --> 00:17:31,144 Do we have that article about the women who said it was them? 298 00:17:31,168 --> 00:17:32,448 One second. 299 00:17:33,408 --> 00:17:34,848 Here we go. 300 00:17:37,048 --> 00:17:38,848 Fiona Fleury. 301 00:17:41,488 --> 00:17:44,967 "I do take issue with the paper saying I was rough with my mother. 302 00:17:44,991 --> 00:17:47,104 "I was only encouraging her to walk faster 303 00:17:47,128 --> 00:17:48,744 "because it was raining so much, 304 00:17:48,768 --> 00:17:51,064 "but it was definitely us the witness saw. 305 00:17:51,088 --> 00:17:53,704 "I was wearing a rain cap exactly as described." 306 00:17:53,728 --> 00:17:55,744 It's the wrong way round. 307 00:17:55,768 --> 00:17:57,384 Fiona's at least a foot taller. 308 00:17:57,408 --> 00:18:00,144 It's her in the rain cap, her mother's in the raincoat. 309 00:18:00,168 --> 00:18:03,240 And Ruby Elliot said it was the short one supporting the tall one. 310 00:18:03,808 --> 00:18:06,664 What height is Dennis Creed? 311 00:18:06,688 --> 00:18:08,064 Shorter than Margot. 312 00:18:08,088 --> 00:18:09,984 So Talbot could have been right? 313 00:18:10,008 --> 00:18:11,624 That could have been Margot. 314 00:18:11,648 --> 00:18:14,367 And the short one really could have been Creed wearing a disguise. 315 00:18:14,391 --> 00:18:17,500 It's possible, but I'm not convinced. 316 00:18:19,409 --> 00:18:20,521 Yep? 317 00:18:20,545 --> 00:18:22,640 I've got Paul Satchwell for you. 318 00:18:22,968 --> 00:18:24,300 Put him through. 319 00:18:25,208 --> 00:18:26,464 You little shit! 320 00:18:26,488 --> 00:18:29,944 I've had friends calling me in tears, asking me why 321 00:18:29,968 --> 00:18:32,944 I want to paint pictures of their arseholes! 322 00:18:32,968 --> 00:18:34,744 What you're doing is illegal! 323 00:18:34,768 --> 00:18:36,864 Illegal is slapping Margot Bamborough 324 00:18:36,888 --> 00:18:39,264 when she asked for her photos back. 325 00:18:39,780 --> 00:18:41,864 All I want from you is straight answers, 326 00:18:41,888 --> 00:18:43,923 and if I don't get them, I think you have a fair idea 327 00:18:43,947 --> 00:18:45,500 of how it's going to go. 328 00:18:46,461 --> 00:18:49,261 All right. What do you want to know? 329 00:19:02,928 --> 00:19:05,064 - Hello? - Hello, Cormoran. 330 00:19:05,088 --> 00:19:06,940 It's Johnny, your father. 331 00:19:07,408 --> 00:19:09,440 I just want to have a chat. Is that all right? 332 00:19:11,168 --> 00:19:12,400 Are you there? 333 00:19:13,328 --> 00:19:14,688 Yeah. I'm listening. 334 00:19:15,888 --> 00:19:18,240 I'm told that you've opened the invitation to my party. 335 00:19:18,728 --> 00:19:21,424 That's great. I'd love you to come. 336 00:19:21,448 --> 00:19:22,944 I'm busy. 337 00:19:22,968 --> 00:19:24,024 Well... 338 00:19:24,048 --> 00:19:27,380 What I really want to say is I am proud of you. 339 00:19:28,128 --> 00:19:30,544 Do you understand? Al says you're still angry, 340 00:19:30,568 --> 00:19:33,184 but there's two sides to every story, right? 341 00:19:33,208 --> 00:19:35,648 Now's not a good time to talk. 342 00:19:36,807 --> 00:19:38,940 Well, I've got prostate cancer. 343 00:19:39,287 --> 00:19:41,120 There might not always be time. 344 00:19:41,888 --> 00:19:43,344 I can live with that. 345 00:19:43,368 --> 00:19:45,720 - Don't call again. - But Corm... 346 00:20:25,860 --> 00:20:28,064 I don't see how anyone can justify being a soldier 347 00:20:28,088 --> 00:20:29,624 under our last few governments. 348 00:20:29,648 --> 00:20:32,584 Do you think women should have the right to drive a car? 349 00:20:32,608 --> 00:20:34,264 Well, that's a stupid question. 350 00:20:34,288 --> 00:20:36,984 Taliban don't think it's stupid. For them, it's a no. 351 00:20:37,008 --> 00:20:40,064 And we tried to fix that with a war, didn't we? 352 00:20:40,088 --> 00:20:42,664 So remind me who's running Afghanistan now? 353 00:20:42,688 --> 00:20:44,904 So in your perfect world, how does it go? 354 00:20:44,928 --> 00:20:48,504 We keep the A-10s in hangars and send in Derrida? 355 00:20:48,528 --> 00:20:51,464 Go on, Jacques! Fuck them up with your critique of Western thought. 356 00:20:51,488 --> 00:20:52,664 I get it. 357 00:20:52,688 --> 00:20:54,184 You're an anti-intellectual. 358 00:20:54,208 --> 00:20:56,904 - Oh, you could answer the question. - Shall we have pudding? 359 00:20:56,928 --> 00:20:58,544 Courtney, could you give me a hand? 360 00:20:58,568 --> 00:21:01,184 Courtney doesn't carry plates. She theorises them. 361 00:21:01,208 --> 00:21:04,904 Ridiculing women isn't the good look that you think it is. 362 00:21:04,928 --> 00:21:06,064 She's smart. 363 00:21:06,088 --> 00:21:07,858 She got a distinction for her dissertation. 364 00:21:07,882 --> 00:21:10,904 Anyway, Cormoran, Max really wants to hear about Army life. 365 00:21:10,928 --> 00:21:15,544 Yeah, well, first, I need to hear about Courtney's dissertation. 366 00:21:15,568 --> 00:21:19,424 This is perfect! Front seats in a combat zone. 367 00:21:19,448 --> 00:21:21,784 - Well, in simple terms... - Appreciated. 368 00:21:21,808 --> 00:21:23,744 ..I argued that work is work, 369 00:21:23,768 --> 00:21:25,544 bodily autonomy is paramount, 370 00:21:25,568 --> 00:21:27,224 media are permeable, 371 00:21:27,248 --> 00:21:29,984 and desire isn't exclusively a masculine domain. 372 00:21:30,008 --> 00:21:32,660 So you study porn? 373 00:21:33,088 --> 00:21:34,904 If you want to put it like that. 374 00:21:34,928 --> 00:21:36,424 But happy porn, though, 375 00:21:36,448 --> 00:21:39,784 not the trafficked women, underage porn. Just... 376 00:21:39,808 --> 00:21:41,772 - Who wants cheesecake? - Ooh! 377 00:21:41,796 --> 00:21:44,664 Maybe you need to step outside of this Victorian mind-set. 378 00:21:44,688 --> 00:21:48,224 One place I stepped into was a brothel in Kosovo 379 00:21:48,248 --> 00:21:50,184 where they were filming 14-year-olds. 380 00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:52,464 - That's different. That's rape. - Cormoran... 381 00:21:52,488 --> 00:21:55,304 No, it's an industry that really agonises over those definitions. 382 00:21:55,328 --> 00:21:56,504 Can we change the subject? 383 00:21:56,528 --> 00:21:58,896 You're positioning yourself as the saviour and totally ignoring 384 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,187 the lived experience of... 385 00:22:00,211 --> 00:22:03,099 My lived experience is dealing with human beings, 386 00:22:03,123 --> 00:22:07,424 not writing 2,000 words on whether rape is a post-modern construct, 387 00:22:07,448 --> 00:22:11,264 because, believe me, it fucking happens. 388 00:22:16,048 --> 00:22:17,743 I'm so sorry. 389 00:22:17,768 --> 00:22:18,824 I'm fine. 390 00:22:18,849 --> 00:22:20,180 Robin... 391 00:22:24,488 --> 00:22:26,180 Max, um... 392 00:22:27,728 --> 00:22:29,248 The Army is... 393 00:22:30,808 --> 00:22:32,248 It's fine. 394 00:22:33,528 --> 00:22:35,168 Robin, I'm sorry. 395 00:22:36,848 --> 00:22:38,104 And you two... 396 00:22:40,208 --> 00:22:42,224 ..you're fucking idiots. 397 00:22:42,248 --> 00:22:43,560 Night. 398 00:22:52,248 --> 00:22:54,128 Argh... 399 00:22:55,968 --> 00:22:57,848 Urgh... 400 00:23:07,488 --> 00:23:08,808 Urgh... 401 00:23:10,968 --> 00:23:12,088 Oh. 402 00:23:13,288 --> 00:23:15,088 Oh, it's you. 403 00:23:17,128 --> 00:23:20,600 Ignore that. I was drinking before I came out. 404 00:23:22,688 --> 00:23:23,840 What? 405 00:23:24,528 --> 00:23:25,700 What? 406 00:23:26,714 --> 00:23:28,514 Fucking what?! 407 00:23:29,368 --> 00:23:31,264 What?! 408 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,064 You arrive late, 409 00:23:33,088 --> 00:23:34,624 because of course you do. 410 00:23:34,648 --> 00:23:38,344 You arrive pissed because it's only my new flatmate and my family. 411 00:23:38,368 --> 00:23:39,944 Fuck 'em! Robin'll mop it up. 412 00:23:39,968 --> 00:23:41,141 Hang on a minute... 413 00:23:41,165 --> 00:23:44,424 Then it's time to start talking about rape. 414 00:23:44,448 --> 00:23:46,860 Only to make a point. I didn't mean... 415 00:23:49,808 --> 00:23:52,424 Look, I'm sorry. 416 00:23:52,448 --> 00:23:54,744 I said I'm sorry. 417 00:23:54,768 --> 00:23:55,928 No. 418 00:23:57,328 --> 00:24:00,128 No. It's not enough. 419 00:24:43,648 --> 00:24:46,088 Robin Ellacott. Leave a message. 420 00:24:51,328 --> 00:24:52,888 Dickhead. 421 00:24:57,328 --> 00:24:58,904 Oh, hi, Lucy. 422 00:24:58,928 --> 00:25:01,544 I'm making him some coffee. Would you like some? 423 00:25:01,568 --> 00:25:03,128 Yeah, thank you. 424 00:25:23,168 --> 00:25:24,824 I assume you're going to Cornwall? 425 00:25:24,848 --> 00:25:26,664 Yeah, Lucy's driving. 426 00:25:26,688 --> 00:25:29,568 There's a big storm. No trains running. 427 00:25:31,348 --> 00:25:32,884 Robin, I'm sorry. 428 00:25:32,909 --> 00:25:35,860 I don't want to talk. I just want to get these files. 429 00:25:36,288 --> 00:25:39,008 - I might be away for a few days. - That's fine. 430 00:25:40,408 --> 00:25:42,344 Robin, I really am sorry about last night. 431 00:25:42,368 --> 00:25:44,680 I just want to work. I need to concentrate. 432 00:25:47,368 --> 00:25:49,464 I only remember half the evening. 433 00:25:49,488 --> 00:25:51,504 Oh, you were great, Cormoran. 434 00:25:51,528 --> 00:25:53,713 You put everyone at ease. You helped out with the washing up. 435 00:25:53,737 --> 00:25:55,179 The perfect guest. 436 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,990 Won't happen again. 437 00:25:57,014 --> 00:25:58,780 No, it bloody well won't. 438 00:25:59,688 --> 00:26:01,424 Coffee's made and you need to pack. 439 00:26:01,448 --> 00:26:03,504 They've just closed the A30. 440 00:26:03,528 --> 00:26:05,144 We need to leave soon. 441 00:26:05,168 --> 00:26:06,504 Is Joan...? 442 00:26:06,528 --> 00:26:07,968 Yeah. 443 00:26:09,114 --> 00:26:12,074 I don't know if I'll make it in time. Lucy wants to try. 444 00:26:13,088 --> 00:26:14,808 I'm sorry, Cormoran. 445 00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:19,424 It's a long way to go on a hangover. 446 00:26:19,448 --> 00:26:21,760 And Lucy's a terrible driver. 447 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,488 I'd be all right with you. 448 00:26:26,594 --> 00:26:28,920 I am really sorry. 449 00:26:30,808 --> 00:26:32,420 I know you are. 450 00:26:41,008 --> 00:26:42,824 Coffee. Drink it quickly. 451 00:26:42,848 --> 00:26:44,260 There you go. 452 00:26:44,808 --> 00:26:46,608 Ah, thank you. 453 00:27:10,768 --> 00:27:13,064 The road's closed. You have to go back. 454 00:27:13,088 --> 00:27:14,504 We need to get to St Mawes. 455 00:27:14,528 --> 00:27:16,064 You need to get off the road. 456 00:27:16,088 --> 00:27:17,984 There's trees coming down everywhere. 457 00:27:18,008 --> 00:27:21,024 Thanks, Officer. We'll turn around. 458 00:27:21,048 --> 00:27:23,144 If we turn left at the end of that road, 459 00:27:23,168 --> 00:27:24,880 we can try and get over the hill. 460 00:27:44,048 --> 00:27:46,944 - How far are we now? - About 30 miles. 461 00:27:46,968 --> 00:27:49,488 Turn around. We'll try and use farm tracks. 462 00:28:21,208 --> 00:28:23,328 I'll make some calls. 463 00:28:33,608 --> 00:28:35,464 I have got some good news. 464 00:28:35,488 --> 00:28:38,224 - I got an email this morning. - Yeah? 465 00:28:38,248 --> 00:28:40,540 Creed has agreed to let us interview him. 466 00:28:41,448 --> 00:28:42,864 Robin! 467 00:28:42,888 --> 00:28:45,140 My God, you beauty! 468 00:28:46,688 --> 00:28:49,704 I can tell you everything you need to ask him. 469 00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:52,504 I mean, no-one in the world knows more about him than me. 470 00:28:52,528 --> 00:28:54,904 Well, if you can start with any evidence 471 00:28:54,928 --> 00:28:56,700 you have that Creed took Louise. 472 00:28:57,368 --> 00:29:01,780 They, uh, gave me this after they were done with it. 473 00:29:03,048 --> 00:29:06,704 They even told me, on balance, they reckon Creed killed Lou, 474 00:29:06,728 --> 00:29:08,744 but there wasn't enough proof, 475 00:29:08,768 --> 00:29:11,728 and they didn't need it to get him put away. 476 00:29:17,648 --> 00:29:19,488 Cavalry's arrived. 477 00:29:24,368 --> 00:29:26,800 - Dave. - Figured you'd get stuck here. 478 00:29:28,448 --> 00:29:30,944 - Hi, Dave. - Right, Luce? Fit to walk? 479 00:29:30,968 --> 00:29:33,304 - I'll be fine. - Let's get cracking. 480 00:29:33,328 --> 00:29:34,544 You remember Nell? 481 00:29:34,568 --> 00:29:35,904 Been a while, mate. 482 00:29:35,928 --> 00:29:37,264 Welcome home, boy. 483 00:29:37,288 --> 00:29:38,744 Ain't home yet. 484 00:29:38,768 --> 00:29:40,500 Here you are. Put these on. 485 00:30:39,768 --> 00:30:41,208 Ted! 486 00:31:02,288 --> 00:31:04,480 I never thought you'd make it. 487 00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:08,064 - I thought you wouldn't get here. - How is she? 488 00:31:08,088 --> 00:31:10,768 She... She waited. 489 00:31:12,808 --> 00:31:15,104 - Thank you, Nell. - You're welcome. 490 00:31:15,128 --> 00:31:16,664 Let's go. 491 00:31:16,688 --> 00:31:17,968 Dave... 492 00:31:20,088 --> 00:31:21,504 Don't start. 493 00:31:21,528 --> 00:31:24,768 Get inside or what the fuck was it all for? 494 00:32:21,568 --> 00:32:23,088 Hello. 495 00:32:29,648 --> 00:32:31,888 Are you comfortable? 496 00:32:35,361 --> 00:32:37,140 Can I get you anything? 497 00:32:39,155 --> 00:32:40,435 Just sit. 498 00:32:42,808 --> 00:32:44,248 Just sit... 499 00:32:50,848 --> 00:32:53,528 Wish I'd met your Robin. 500 00:32:54,728 --> 00:32:56,504 Does she look after you? 501 00:33:00,168 --> 00:33:03,200 It's not like that these days. 502 00:33:06,128 --> 00:33:08,440 I'm supposed to look after myself. 503 00:33:11,968 --> 00:33:14,048 You've done enough of that. 504 00:33:18,608 --> 00:33:20,368 Don't worry about me. 505 00:33:22,894 --> 00:33:24,374 Oh... 506 00:33:27,321 --> 00:33:30,240 You're a good man. 507 00:33:36,768 --> 00:33:38,928 I'm so proud of you. 508 00:33:40,408 --> 00:33:42,460 My lovely boy. 509 00:33:53,408 --> 00:33:54,944 I love you, Joan. 510 00:33:58,221 --> 00:33:59,621 Mmm. 511 00:34:26,488 --> 00:34:27,786 Stick? 512 00:36:01,808 --> 00:36:04,920 Dear Ted, Cormoran and Lucy. 513 00:36:05,648 --> 00:36:07,780 I'm so sorry for your loss. 514 00:36:08,168 --> 00:36:10,380 I know how much she'll be missed. 515 00:36:12,928 --> 00:36:16,048 I wish I'd met Joan, but I feel like I knew her. 516 00:36:21,008 --> 00:36:23,704 She was there for Cormoran when he was growing up 517 00:36:23,728 --> 00:36:27,688 and knowing the man he became, I'll always be grateful to her for that. 518 00:36:42,688 --> 00:36:45,104 That's great news about Creed. 519 00:36:45,128 --> 00:36:47,064 Creed'll only talk to you. 520 00:36:47,088 --> 00:36:49,076 I know that's not something you agreed to... 521 00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,448 I'll do it. Of course I'll do it. 522 00:36:57,128 --> 00:36:58,768 When's the funeral? 523 00:36:59,741 --> 00:37:01,541 Not till after Christmas. 524 00:37:03,448 --> 00:37:05,504 So we're seeing Anna tomorrow. 525 00:37:05,528 --> 00:37:07,704 Oh, I... I can't make the meeting. 526 00:37:07,728 --> 00:37:10,443 I'm sorry. I tried to move this other thing... 527 00:37:10,467 --> 00:37:11,784 Robin, Robin. 528 00:37:11,808 --> 00:37:14,624 - ..and I can't. - You've done more than enough. 529 00:37:14,648 --> 00:37:16,248 It's fine. 530 00:37:18,974 --> 00:37:20,800 How are you doing? 531 00:37:25,648 --> 00:37:27,808 I'll talk to you tomorrow. 532 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,064 In terms of historic evidence, 533 00:37:42,088 --> 00:37:45,680 we found the police made one serious error. 534 00:37:46,328 --> 00:37:49,784 They discounted a statement by a witness who saw two people 535 00:37:49,808 --> 00:37:51,824 struggling near a phone box. 536 00:37:51,848 --> 00:37:54,040 I'm afraid it hasn't got us any further. 537 00:37:55,928 --> 00:37:57,704 Everyone we've spoken to says 538 00:37:57,728 --> 00:38:01,280 your mum would never have left you for Satchwell or anyone else. 539 00:38:01,608 --> 00:38:04,184 Your mum told your dad she'd met Satchwell. 540 00:38:04,208 --> 00:38:07,824 That's why he suggested the police check Satchwell's place. 541 00:38:07,848 --> 00:38:10,024 There's no evidence of an affair. 542 00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:13,840 I think she wanted a bit more attention from your dad. 543 00:38:14,128 --> 00:38:18,344 I have to say, just knowing that he met up with those other men 544 00:38:18,368 --> 00:38:19,728 who'd lost women... 545 00:38:21,168 --> 00:38:24,664 It means he was trying to find her. 546 00:38:24,841 --> 00:38:26,121 He tried. 547 00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:32,624 I think we should keep going. Whatever it takes. 548 00:38:32,648 --> 00:38:34,304 No. Hear me out. 549 00:38:34,328 --> 00:38:36,104 Roy looked for her. 550 00:38:36,128 --> 00:38:39,020 He only stopped when he realised he couldn't cope. 551 00:38:39,288 --> 00:38:41,981 Can I ask you about what your partner said about 552 00:38:42,005 --> 00:38:43,664 wanting to continue? 553 00:38:43,688 --> 00:38:45,744 I'm sorry. That wasn't appropriate. 554 00:38:45,768 --> 00:38:47,744 It was real, though. 555 00:38:47,768 --> 00:38:50,100 I felt like she really cared. 556 00:38:50,741 --> 00:38:52,981 She does. We both do. 557 00:38:55,008 --> 00:38:57,904 We're nearly at the limit of what we agreed we'd spend. 558 00:38:57,928 --> 00:38:59,704 Bugger the money. 559 00:38:59,728 --> 00:39:01,408 This is your happiness. 560 00:39:03,728 --> 00:39:08,600 If it were you, if you were the client and it was your mother, 561 00:39:09,128 --> 00:39:11,208 would you still keep looking? 562 00:39:13,888 --> 00:39:16,944 If you decide that's what you want to do, we'd be happy to work 563 00:39:16,968 --> 00:39:19,648 at a lower rate. We'd do it at cost. 564 00:39:20,928 --> 00:39:22,740 It is what we want. 565 00:39:23,608 --> 00:39:24,808 Thank you. 566 00:39:26,568 --> 00:39:28,384 I love you. 567 00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:30,940 I love you too. 568 00:39:38,848 --> 00:39:40,304 Nobody I know can understand why 569 00:39:40,328 --> 00:39:42,584 a one-year marriage is taking so long to sort out. 570 00:39:42,608 --> 00:39:47,624 All I want back is the deposit my parents gave me for the house. 571 00:39:47,648 --> 00:39:48,864 I've subsidised you. 572 00:39:48,888 --> 00:39:51,104 Do you need me to walk away with nothing so that it looks 573 00:39:51,128 --> 00:39:52,544 like it's all my fault? 574 00:39:52,568 --> 00:39:55,066 Because I can write to your friends and say that 575 00:39:55,090 --> 00:39:56,944 if that's what you need. 576 00:39:56,968 --> 00:39:59,664 Instead, we're both just sat here missing work. 577 00:39:59,688 --> 00:40:01,940 Yeah, well, I doubt that makes that much difference to you. 578 00:40:02,968 --> 00:40:04,740 Don't forget, I know what you earn. 579 00:40:09,048 --> 00:40:12,024 - Thanks for agreeing to talk to Creed. - I'm all in. 580 00:40:12,048 --> 00:40:14,384 You've got both of us until we find Louise. 581 00:40:14,408 --> 00:40:17,008 Not that you need anyone else when you've got Robin. 582 00:40:18,494 --> 00:40:23,288 A psychological profile done by an American in the '80s. 583 00:40:23,408 --> 00:40:24,940 It's very good. 584 00:40:25,608 --> 00:40:30,824 The gist of it is, Creed likes people to think he's clever. 585 00:40:30,848 --> 00:40:32,864 So play on his vanity? 586 00:40:32,888 --> 00:40:36,824 Oh, he'll expect you to be playing a game to get Margot's body back. 587 00:40:36,848 --> 00:40:38,264 He'll enjoy it. 588 00:40:38,288 --> 00:40:41,584 Was he interested in astrology or the occult? 589 00:40:41,608 --> 00:40:43,864 Because the first detective who worked on the case... 590 00:40:43,888 --> 00:40:45,744 I know all about Talbot. 591 00:40:45,768 --> 00:40:49,620 Using star signs to solve the case, wasn't it? 592 00:40:49,974 --> 00:40:55,310 Creed did like Aleister Crowley. They found his books in the flat. 593 00:40:55,528 --> 00:40:58,548 And there's a few theories that he chose certain nights 594 00:40:58,572 --> 00:41:02,024 to take women for satanic rituals. 595 00:41:02,048 --> 00:41:04,128 Well, we'll look into that. 596 00:41:05,408 --> 00:41:09,224 Try and get him talking about places they never dug. 597 00:41:09,248 --> 00:41:11,864 I mean, spots they did check are marked in green. 598 00:41:11,888 --> 00:41:13,264 That's Epping Forest. 599 00:41:13,288 --> 00:41:16,104 The police were already there when Louise was taken, weren't they? 600 00:41:16,128 --> 00:41:19,944 Oh, well done. Yeah. Yeah, he was running out of places by then. 601 00:41:19,968 --> 00:41:25,304 What you want to do is get him talking about these other 12 spots. 602 00:41:25,328 --> 00:41:27,861 His aunt's place near Great Church Wood, 603 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,864 the Archer Hotel in Islington. 604 00:41:30,888 --> 00:41:32,840 Now, he was a regular there. 605 00:41:33,248 --> 00:41:36,720 Then there's the old granary building. That's another one. 606 00:41:38,648 --> 00:41:40,384 Afternoon, your highness. 607 00:41:40,408 --> 00:41:43,560 Just ducking in. These are for you. 608 00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,504 How's it going with the dead doc? 609 00:41:47,528 --> 00:41:48,790 Missing doctor. 610 00:41:48,814 --> 00:41:51,208 Whatever the client needs to believe. Am I right? 611 00:41:52,208 --> 00:41:53,864 How's it going with Shifty? 612 00:41:53,888 --> 00:41:56,420 Yeah, good. Nearly there, inches away. 613 00:41:57,340 --> 00:41:59,504 You... You got any Christmas plans? 614 00:41:59,528 --> 00:42:01,464 Going home to my mum and dad's. 615 00:42:01,488 --> 00:42:03,488 Got your Christmas stockings ready? 616 00:42:04,954 --> 00:42:06,600 Too old for all that. 617 00:42:14,488 --> 00:42:16,944 Mmm. I thought you thought that was junk. 618 00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:18,784 You left it open. 619 00:42:18,808 --> 00:42:20,824 Or did Baphomet do that? 620 00:42:22,888 --> 00:42:25,695 To give Talbot his due, he was the first person to realise 621 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,320 there was a serial killer at work. 622 00:42:28,128 --> 00:42:30,064 I still think... I mean... 623 00:42:30,088 --> 00:42:34,064 "The killer is Capricorn." He at least had a theory. 624 00:42:34,088 --> 00:42:36,824 - Roy was his Capricorn. - Yeah, but then he crosses out 625 00:42:36,848 --> 00:42:39,568 his whole list of star sign codes for his suspects. 626 00:42:40,768 --> 00:42:43,624 I think he knew he'd got it wrong somehow. 627 00:42:43,648 --> 00:42:47,664 "Schmidt explains everything." Let's get Schmidt in here. 628 00:42:48,001 --> 00:42:49,281 Pat? 629 00:42:50,168 --> 00:42:51,984 You got his tarot cards out. 630 00:42:52,008 --> 00:42:54,264 My mum used to do it every day, 631 00:42:54,288 --> 00:42:56,620 to help her make all her good decisions. 632 00:42:57,208 --> 00:42:59,180 Go on, then. You obviously know how. 633 00:43:06,968 --> 00:43:08,648 Pick one. 634 00:43:20,208 --> 00:43:22,704 I'll, um... I'll pick you up at nine tomorrow. 635 00:43:22,728 --> 00:43:25,940 It should take about two hours to get to Broadmoor with traffic. 636 00:43:30,288 --> 00:43:32,264 - Pat? - I'm still here. 637 00:43:56,768 --> 00:43:57,904 Thank you for this. 638 00:43:57,928 --> 00:43:59,488 You're welcome. This way. 639 00:44:29,088 --> 00:44:31,144 Hello, Cormoran. 640 00:44:31,168 --> 00:44:32,400 Hello, Dennis. 641 00:44:33,408 --> 00:44:35,840 Who are you working for today, then? 642 00:44:36,328 --> 00:44:38,184 I suspect you'll work that out. 643 00:44:38,208 --> 00:44:40,160 Sign of narcissism. 644 00:44:41,568 --> 00:44:45,528 Withholding information to make yourself feel powerful. 645 00:44:48,128 --> 00:44:52,744 I think you're working for Margot Bamborough's daughter. 646 00:44:52,768 --> 00:44:56,024 She'd be about 51 now, wouldn't she? 647 00:44:56,048 --> 00:44:58,024 Probably worth a few bob. 648 00:44:58,048 --> 00:45:00,608 You don't come cheap with your reputation. 649 00:45:04,648 --> 00:45:06,928 Or is it old Brian Tucker? 650 00:45:07,928 --> 00:45:09,904 I can't see how he'd pay. 651 00:45:09,928 --> 00:45:12,584 I'm confident he's still alive. 652 00:45:12,608 --> 00:45:14,104 Why so confident? 653 00:45:14,128 --> 00:45:18,024 Because somebody would have run a story in the papers when he dies. 654 00:45:18,048 --> 00:45:21,424 "Father goes to grave not knowing." 655 00:45:21,448 --> 00:45:25,264 The public seem to like that kind of story. 656 00:45:25,580 --> 00:45:27,584 You could check online. 657 00:45:27,608 --> 00:45:29,440 I never use the internet. 658 00:45:29,948 --> 00:45:32,188 Not allowed to in here. 659 00:45:33,128 --> 00:45:36,424 They like to do things to frustrate me. 660 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,824 They stuff me full of drugs that I don't need, 661 00:45:40,848 --> 00:45:43,304 feed me swill to ruin my body. 662 00:45:43,328 --> 00:45:47,520 I should be in a prison, not here. They know that. 663 00:45:48,728 --> 00:45:51,944 I could even be very useful if they'd meet me halfway. 664 00:45:51,968 --> 00:45:54,464 So you're arguing you're sane. 665 00:45:54,488 --> 00:45:59,040 I understand that it suits society to say otherwise. 666 00:46:00,328 --> 00:46:02,224 Look at the world. 667 00:46:02,248 --> 00:46:07,664 Men like me target society's unwanted. 668 00:46:07,688 --> 00:46:12,180 Polite society won't say it out loud. 669 00:46:13,088 --> 00:46:16,168 But they're not unhappy those people are dead. 670 00:46:17,328 --> 00:46:23,304 They don't work hard to catch us while we're pruning out the rot. 671 00:46:23,328 --> 00:46:27,504 Men like me are necessary. 672 00:46:27,528 --> 00:46:29,168 Nietzsche knew it. 673 00:46:30,288 --> 00:46:32,224 Crowley knew it. 674 00:46:32,248 --> 00:46:34,208 I'd heard you read Crowley. 675 00:46:36,528 --> 00:46:39,300 Do you have me down as a devil worshipper? 676 00:46:39,888 --> 00:46:41,664 Aren't you? 677 00:46:41,688 --> 00:46:45,104 You've read about Detective Talbot, haven't you? 678 00:46:45,128 --> 00:46:50,040 Did you know he tried to solve me using star signs? 679 00:46:51,008 --> 00:46:52,784 Didn't work out very well, did it? 680 00:46:54,088 --> 00:46:57,420 Maybe I was born under the 13th sign. 681 00:46:57,968 --> 00:47:03,184 Not classifiable by an orthodox system. 682 00:47:03,208 --> 00:47:05,784 Maybe that's why he couldn't catch me. 683 00:47:05,808 --> 00:47:07,144 Hmm. 684 00:47:07,168 --> 00:47:12,420 So no killing during the season of the moon, or cult of the Ruby Star? 685 00:47:13,168 --> 00:47:15,460 So we've both read Crowley. 686 00:47:16,460 --> 00:47:21,784 Sane men don't believe in Satan or horoscopes. 687 00:47:21,808 --> 00:47:24,040 And I am sane. 688 00:47:26,368 --> 00:47:28,328 Your doctors disagree. 689 00:47:30,448 --> 00:47:33,264 I know more about psychology than they do. 690 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,520 You knew a bit about drugs, too. 691 00:47:36,888 --> 00:47:41,464 Pentobarbital, phenobarbital slipped in a drink. 692 00:47:41,488 --> 00:47:44,784 My field of expertise. 693 00:47:44,808 --> 00:47:47,560 What if a woman had been drinking? 694 00:47:47,928 --> 00:47:49,384 With alcohol in the blood, 695 00:47:49,408 --> 00:47:52,904 isn't there the danger you'd kill them before you got them home? 696 00:47:52,928 --> 00:47:55,224 I could always tell how much she'd had. 697 00:47:55,248 --> 00:47:56,888 I'd alter the dose. 698 00:47:59,008 --> 00:48:01,640 Did you adjust the dose for weight? 699 00:48:02,048 --> 00:48:03,440 Of course. 700 00:48:03,888 --> 00:48:06,664 And did they always finish the drink you gave them, 701 00:48:06,820 --> 00:48:09,300 even if they needed to be somewhere else? 702 00:48:09,848 --> 00:48:14,624 You're thinking Dr Bamborough would have been too clever 703 00:48:14,648 --> 00:48:16,408 to end up in my van. 704 00:48:17,888 --> 00:48:20,528 Doctors make mistakes, like everyone. 705 00:48:22,248 --> 00:48:24,080 You didn't always use the van, did you? 706 00:48:24,104 --> 00:48:26,904 You met Noreen Sturrock on a bus. 707 00:48:26,928 --> 00:48:28,904 You gave her a can of Coke. 708 00:48:28,928 --> 00:48:30,168 Cans of pop... 709 00:48:31,968 --> 00:48:35,464 Adjusting the dose for the smaller body... 710 00:48:35,488 --> 00:48:40,320 Maybe you ARE here for little Louise Tucker. 711 00:48:41,688 --> 00:48:46,088 As a matter of fact, my client is Margot Bamborough's daughter. 712 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,809 What do you want out of this meeting? 713 00:48:51,833 --> 00:48:55,384 I want to go back to Belmarsh, 714 00:48:55,408 --> 00:48:57,960 where I can finish my book. 715 00:48:58,288 --> 00:49:03,664 Keeping me here costs the taxpayer five times as much as prison. 716 00:49:03,688 --> 00:49:05,584 Where do you think they want me? 717 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,504 They want you back in prison, 718 00:49:07,528 --> 00:49:10,184 but the public don't get to decide where you belong. 719 00:49:10,208 --> 00:49:11,880 That's down to your doctors. 720 00:49:12,780 --> 00:49:14,344 Do you think you could change anyone's mind 721 00:49:14,368 --> 00:49:16,064 by talking to the press? 722 00:49:16,088 --> 00:49:18,224 Because there's a way to do that. 723 00:49:18,248 --> 00:49:20,344 You tell me where Margot Bamborough is buried, 724 00:49:20,368 --> 00:49:22,744 I'll have a body and you'll have a trial. 725 00:49:22,768 --> 00:49:24,904 If you plead not guilty you'll take the stand, 726 00:49:24,928 --> 00:49:27,288 then you can speak to the press directly. 727 00:49:36,614 --> 00:49:39,800 I killed Louise Tucker. 728 00:49:44,568 --> 00:49:46,700 Saw her in her school uniform. 729 00:49:48,060 --> 00:49:49,500 Hard to resist. 730 00:49:51,808 --> 00:49:53,944 There wasn't any planning. 731 00:49:53,968 --> 00:49:55,480 No drugs. 732 00:49:56,448 --> 00:49:58,288 Very unlike me. 733 00:50:00,248 --> 00:50:03,344 I saw her and I took her. 734 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,584 There's no evidence Louise Tucker was ever in your basement. 735 00:50:07,608 --> 00:50:10,980 That's cos she never was in my basement. 736 00:50:11,568 --> 00:50:15,848 I did take her necklace off her before I dumped the body. 737 00:50:17,808 --> 00:50:21,664 Thousands of those butterfly necklaces were made. 738 00:50:21,688 --> 00:50:23,408 How about this, then? 739 00:50:24,488 --> 00:50:27,384 She called her stepmum Claws. 740 00:50:27,408 --> 00:50:32,780 She told me all about how unhappy she was at home. 741 00:50:33,328 --> 00:50:38,208 Ask Brian Tucker how else I could have known about that. 742 00:50:39,568 --> 00:50:41,144 It's not enough. Without a body 743 00:50:41,168 --> 00:50:43,704 they'll think you're just looking for attention. 744 00:50:43,728 --> 00:50:45,368 It would never go to court. 745 00:50:46,981 --> 00:50:48,980 Why don't you tell me where Margot is? 746 00:50:51,728 --> 00:50:56,208 Once I'm back in Belmarsh... 747 00:50:59,848 --> 00:51:06,504 ..then maybe I'll be able to talk about Margot Bamborough. 748 00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:10,320 Might feel up to it once I'm not being drugged. 749 00:51:14,474 --> 00:51:17,170 You're full of shit, Dennis. 750 00:51:17,408 --> 00:51:21,344 I don't believe you had anything to do with Louise or Margot. 751 00:51:21,660 --> 00:51:23,144 Ready to go. 752 00:51:23,168 --> 00:51:26,064 Why don't we meet halfway? 753 00:51:26,088 --> 00:51:29,384 Then we'll find out how clever you are. 754 00:51:29,408 --> 00:51:31,584 You'll find Louise 755 00:51:31,608 --> 00:51:33,824 where you find M54. 756 00:51:33,848 --> 00:51:35,144 The M54? 757 00:51:35,168 --> 00:51:37,984 You'll find her where you find M54. 758 00:51:38,008 --> 00:51:39,762 If you can work that out, 759 00:51:39,786 --> 00:51:44,184 after that, maybe then we can talk about Margot. 760 00:51:44,208 --> 00:51:46,128 Those are my terms. 761 00:51:49,208 --> 00:51:51,224 I know your type, Cormoran. 762 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,744 You read about women fighting near a phone box, 763 00:51:54,768 --> 00:51:57,944 you read about a van seen speeding away. 764 00:51:57,968 --> 00:52:00,584 Everyone else has got it wrong. 765 00:52:00,608 --> 00:52:03,528 Now you'll be the one who gets it right. 766 00:52:04,528 --> 00:52:07,340 I can see to that. 767 00:52:08,528 --> 00:52:10,688 But it's my rules. 768 00:52:15,388 --> 00:52:18,460 The plea for witnesses was in all the papers. 769 00:52:19,128 --> 00:52:22,700 The phone box women, the van. 770 00:52:23,448 --> 00:52:27,328 That's in the dozen books about you. I expect you've read them all. 771 00:52:28,528 --> 00:52:29,989 The unanswered questions. 772 00:52:30,013 --> 00:52:33,144 No. We've answered them. 773 00:52:33,168 --> 00:52:35,464 That wasn't you driving the van. 774 00:52:35,488 --> 00:52:39,480 You never met Margot. I ruled you out some time ago. 775 00:52:40,328 --> 00:52:42,568 I was only ever here for Louise Tucker. 776 00:52:44,688 --> 00:52:46,904 I think you're a fucking lunatic. 777 00:52:46,928 --> 00:52:48,680 And if anyone asks, 778 00:52:49,288 --> 00:52:54,000 I'll say you should be here in Broadmoor till you rot. 779 00:53:10,328 --> 00:53:14,620 Motorway... Motorway. Car... 780 00:53:16,328 --> 00:53:19,448 Try searching M54 minus motorway, minus car. 781 00:53:24,128 --> 00:53:27,064 There's a star called M54. 782 00:53:27,088 --> 00:53:30,408 - It's located in the constellation of... - Sagittarius. 783 00:53:31,448 --> 00:53:33,528 Yeah. How did you know that? 784 00:53:36,168 --> 00:53:38,664 I think I know where Louise is buried. 785 00:53:38,688 --> 00:53:41,024 Sagittarius is also called the Archer. 786 00:53:41,048 --> 00:53:42,798 One of the places that Brian Tucker said 787 00:53:42,822 --> 00:53:46,460 Creed might have used under pressure is the Archer Hotel in Islington. 788 00:53:54,288 --> 00:53:55,808 George Layborn. 789 00:54:05,968 --> 00:54:08,340 We've found what looks like a skeleton. 790 00:54:09,048 --> 00:54:10,720 It's going to be her, isn't it? 791 00:54:11,328 --> 00:54:13,080 How did you figure it out? 792 00:54:13,568 --> 00:54:15,104 Creed's clue about Sagittarius 793 00:54:15,128 --> 00:54:17,984 - wasn't as clever as he thought it was. - More bloody star signs. 794 00:54:18,008 --> 00:54:20,824 I asked him about star signs because of Talbot. 795 00:54:20,848 --> 00:54:23,844 Yeah. He said if Talbot couldn't catch him, maybe it was because 796 00:54:23,868 --> 00:54:26,224 he was born under the 13th sign. 797 00:54:26,248 --> 00:54:28,904 - 13th? - Probably taking the piss. 798 00:54:28,928 --> 00:54:30,891 Yeah, well, he's not laughing now, is he? 799 00:54:30,915 --> 00:54:33,184 I'd better get back. If you do speak to her dad, 800 00:54:33,208 --> 00:54:35,888 nothing's official till we've done dental records, right? 801 00:54:59,528 --> 00:55:02,584 You know how Creed said he was born under sign 13? 802 00:55:02,608 --> 00:55:04,088 "Unclassifiable". 803 00:55:05,448 --> 00:55:07,384 I looked up the 13th sign. 804 00:55:07,408 --> 00:55:11,384 It exists. It's part of a 14-sign zodiac system developed in the '70s 805 00:55:11,408 --> 00:55:14,448 by an American astrologer. Guess what his name was? 806 00:55:17,241 --> 00:55:18,761 Stephen Schmidt. 807 00:55:19,728 --> 00:55:23,304 "Schmidt explains everything." All this crossing out is Talbot 808 00:55:23,328 --> 00:55:26,744 trying to apply Schmidt's 14-sign zodiac to his suspects' birthdays. 809 00:55:26,768 --> 00:55:29,104 That was already a mad thing to be doing. 810 00:55:29,128 --> 00:55:31,864 Yeah. No, I know that. But the point is, under Schmidt's system, 811 00:55:31,888 --> 00:55:36,304 people's star signs change. One of them, Steve Douthwaite, 812 00:55:36,328 --> 00:55:37,968 becomes a Capricorn. 813 00:55:40,088 --> 00:55:42,624 "Capricorn kills Julie W." 814 00:55:42,648 --> 00:55:45,504 So I ran a search in the local newspaper archives for the names 815 00:55:45,528 --> 00:55:47,624 Julie and Steve in a ten-year period 816 00:55:47,648 --> 00:55:50,820 with Canvey Island and the holiday camp as search modifiers. 817 00:55:51,248 --> 00:55:53,208 I think I've found Julie W. 818 00:55:56,128 --> 00:56:00,704 Julie Wilkes was a holiday rep at Baxton's in Canvey Island. 819 00:56:00,728 --> 00:56:03,264 She died while Douthwaite was working there, 820 00:56:03,288 --> 00:56:05,454 not that long after Carl Oakden wrote that article 821 00:56:05,478 --> 00:56:07,240 about him changing his name. 822 00:56:07,528 --> 00:56:10,424 Look, it even mentions Julie's on-off boyfriend Steve. 823 00:56:10,448 --> 00:56:13,064 "..Fellow holiday camp rep Steve Jacks, 824 00:56:13,088 --> 00:56:15,288 "who declined to speak with us." 825 00:56:17,048 --> 00:56:19,024 How did Julie die? 826 00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:23,100 She was found intoxicated, floating in the camp pool. 827 00:56:23,408 --> 00:56:26,584 Police questioned Steve, but no charges were brought. 828 00:56:26,608 --> 00:56:29,008 He left Baxton's a week later. 829 00:56:30,728 --> 00:56:33,104 Look what I found in Talbot's notebook. 830 00:56:33,128 --> 00:56:34,939 It's a train ticket to Canvey Island, 831 00:56:34,963 --> 00:56:37,664 dated the week before he was sectioned. 832 00:56:37,688 --> 00:56:40,580 I think Douthwaite was the last thing he worked out. 833 00:56:41,408 --> 00:56:43,996 "I've been looking into an ex-girlfriend of his, 834 00:56:44,020 --> 00:56:46,040 "who apparently committed suicide." 835 00:56:46,808 --> 00:56:49,824 Margot becomes his doctor and he starts sending her chocolates 836 00:56:49,848 --> 00:56:51,620 and asking to see her every week. 837 00:56:51,645 --> 00:56:54,500 And suddenly she goes missing. 838 00:56:55,008 --> 00:56:59,360 Then he moves and his new girlfriend is found drowned at Baxton's. 839 00:57:00,181 --> 00:57:02,941 Talbot was looking for a serial killer. 840 00:57:05,248 --> 00:57:07,000 I think he might have found one. 841 00:57:09,005 --> 00:57:15,005 *CREDITS*