1 00:00:07,500 --> 00:00:10,200 _ 2 00:00:10,210 --> 00:00:12,900 _ 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 _ 4 00:00:15,010 --> 00:00:17,010 _ 5 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,079 Bulbs in the sink? 6 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,940 I've never seen that before. 7 00:01:03,220 --> 00:01:06,199 You don't get this good without practice. 8 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,560 The minute he sets foot on these properties, 9 00:01:08,766 --> 00:01:10,765 he's in control. It's his house. 10 00:01:10,766 --> 00:01:12,340 It's outrageous. 11 00:01:12,620 --> 00:01:15,766 Not with just what he's done, but how long he's got away with it. 12 00:01:16,951 --> 00:01:20,519 Nathan, that possible Minstead case the borough sent over... 13 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,085 - when was that? - Last night. 14 00:01:22,110 --> 00:01:23,765 Colbridge Road in Bromley. 15 00:01:23,766 --> 00:01:26,765 - And what ruled it out, the victimology? - Yeah. 16 00:01:26,766 --> 00:01:29,126 We could do worse than give it a second look. 17 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,535 This is Gavin Forbes, son of the homeowner. 18 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:33,999 When I got back from the hospital, 19 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,740 I went to get a glass of orange from the fridge. 20 00:01:36,980 --> 00:01:38,559 The carton was almost empty. 21 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,559 What, and you think the intruder might've helped himself? 22 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,340 It's the only explanation. 23 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,559 It's not that bloke attacking old ladies? 24 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,440 - Yes, it is, I'm afraid. - Oh, Jesus. 25 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,300 What is it, Gavin? 26 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,780 Mum's room is downstairs. 27 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,560 Let's figure out how he got in. 28 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,919 Any luck. We've got him on camera. 29 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,460 Coming and going. 30 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:13,559 DNA on the orange carton is a 100% match for Minstead Man. 31 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,215 We're gonna need to widen our screening criteria. 32 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,180 That means more offences. 33 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,559 - Well, so be it. - But you haven't got the manpower. 34 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,255 Not when you're treating every offence like a murder. 35 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,559 Yeah. 36 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,560 Then something's got to change. 37 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,000 *CREDITS* 38 00:02:38,924 --> 00:02:41,824 _ 39 00:02:45,274 --> 00:02:46,560 What are you thinking? 40 00:02:46,585 --> 00:02:48,585 It's too much. It's too late. 41 00:02:51,420 --> 00:02:52,980 Good work, Nathan. 42 00:02:53,540 --> 00:02:54,760 Taking a closer look. 43 00:02:55,140 --> 00:02:57,279 Er, no, that was all Mr Sutton, boss. 44 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,895 Oh, well, the DNA from the juice carton 45 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:01,439 - would've linked them soon enough. - Yes, it would. 46 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,559 What does needs a look at is the screening criteria, 47 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,559 cos if it's as flawed as this offence suggests, 48 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,060 we could be missing scores of Minstead crimes. 49 00:03:09,340 --> 00:03:10,559 Such as? 50 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,439 Burglaries with, er, no sexual assault. 51 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,180 Burglaries with no attempt to engage with the homeowner. 52 00:03:16,660 --> 00:03:19,895 Well, I'm confident we're not missing scores of crimes, Colin. 53 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:22,360 He's one man, but, of course... 54 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,560 the criteria will be reviewed. 55 00:03:24,860 --> 00:03:25,860 OK. 56 00:03:26,180 --> 00:03:28,199 Can I have a word, Nathan? 57 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,460 Yes, guv. 58 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:35,860 With all respect, sir, we're not the bloody burglary squad. 59 00:03:38,180 --> 00:03:39,999 They're acting like a murder squad, 60 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,719 but they're dealing with four times the cases 61 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,959 on half the resources. 62 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,559 Any manpower left over gets pissed up the wall 63 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,719 swabbing for DNA. 64 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,599 As an analyst, I can tell you, 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,569 if they're screening out legitimate Minstead cases, 66 00:03:51,594 --> 00:03:52,639 that's chronic. 67 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,559 Maybe they ought to be a bloody burglary squad. 68 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,079 They're trying to find a bloody burglar, after all. 69 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,279 Did you hear what I said? 70 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,719 Incomplete data is bad data, 71 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,639 and bad data is diesel in a petrol car. 72 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,179 - It's worse than nothing. - Yeah, I get it. 73 00:04:05,180 --> 00:04:07,559 They want to preserve and gather evidence, 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,999 but what's their underlying objective? 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,239 They don't need to prove new offences. 76 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,199 Once he's caught, the DNA from the historic offences 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,179 guarantees he goes down for life. 78 00:04:16,180 --> 00:04:18,319 Yeah. Yeah. We just need to find him, 79 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,559 and anything that doesn't serve that has got to stop. 80 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,300 Call it Minstead Lite. 81 00:04:23,740 --> 00:04:25,540 That's good. 82 00:04:25,565 --> 00:04:27,719 Actually, that's brilliant, I'm having that. 83 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,879 That's gonna be my pitch to Hamish... Minstead Lite. 84 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,260 Copyright Surrey Police, please. 85 00:04:32,820 --> 00:04:35,199 - Is that gonna be enough, though? - How d'you mean? 86 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,919 Well, it might free up some manpower and time, 87 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,740 but what are they gonna do with it? More bloody swabbing? 88 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,700 _ 89 00:04:52,032 --> 00:04:53,352 Come in. 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,700 Richard? 91 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,399 - Hello, Colin. - Richard, when you get a moment, 92 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,655 could you trawl through all the recent burglaries in the area... 93 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,760 That took place at night, 94 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:10,079 involved elderly occupiers, 95 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,239 which we sent back to Borough? 96 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,260 Yes. 97 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,140 I can run you off a copy, if you like. 98 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,500 How d'you know I was gonna ask for that? 99 00:05:22,940 --> 00:05:25,935 Well, truth is, a few of us have been worried 100 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,560 about the screening process for a while. 101 00:05:27,585 --> 00:05:29,709 What, incomplete data is bad data? 102 00:05:29,751 --> 00:05:30,751 Hmm. 103 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:32,399 I call that the longlist. 104 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,620 OK. 105 00:05:34,020 --> 00:05:36,159 Well, limited resources means 106 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,399 we can only focus on a limited number of cases. 107 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,399 That means burglaries without sufficient Minstead signatures 108 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,735 get returned to Borough. 109 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,199 - But that could be him? - Yes. 110 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,735 And could potentially be the one where he slips up. 111 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,615 Which is why I keep my own expanded tally 112 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:51,775 alongside the official one. 113 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,879 But if even half of these are Minstead... 114 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,400 He's offending on a scale that nobody's publicly acknowledged. 115 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,159 Yeah, I will have a copy of that. 116 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,119 Sure, but... 117 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,860 Yeah, I didn't get it from you. 118 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,400 Thanks, Richard. 119 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,780 DCI Colin Sutton for Hamish Campbell. 120 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,439 - You can go through. - Thank you. 121 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,655 Current screening processes are excluding 122 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,580 genuine Minstead cases. How many are we talking? 123 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,399 Course, they might not all be him, 124 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,400 but there's no doubt the majority are. 125 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:37,580 Bloody hell. 126 00:06:39,620 --> 00:06:41,239 What makes you so sure? 127 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,239 Cos there's nowhere else in the country 128 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,199 where burglaries with these specific hallmarks are occurring. 129 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Nowhere. They check every morning, 130 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:50,775 so it's very hard to believe that there's two blokes out there 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,380 committing identical crimes in South-East London. 132 00:06:54,220 --> 00:06:55,820 What do you propose? 133 00:06:56,180 --> 00:06:58,399 To cope with the scale of his offending, 134 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,399 our response needs to change. 135 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,140 We need to be more, er, nimble, fleet-footed. 136 00:07:04,820 --> 00:07:06,695 Sounds easier said than done. 137 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,935 Well, if it's a choice between depth and breadth, 138 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,375 then it has to be breadth. 139 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,400 Meaning? 140 00:07:11,401 --> 00:07:15,399 New offences aren't treated as crimes to be fully investigated, 141 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,399 but as intelligence opportunities. 142 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,775 We make sure that we're caring for the victims, 143 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,399 but we focus our attention on aspects of the case 144 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,399 that could help us ID Minstead Man. 145 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,028 No need to generate all the actions 146 00:07:26,053 --> 00:07:27,655 the murder squad approach requires? 147 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,775 Reducing that workload will free them up 148 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,399 to assess all potential Minstead cases, 149 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,780 and it'll accelerate the DNA swabbing. 150 00:07:35,060 --> 00:07:36,920 Call it Minstead Lite. 151 00:07:39,375 --> 00:07:41,100 I like the sound of that. 152 00:07:41,763 --> 00:07:45,640 One way or the other, I'll see it's implemented. 153 00:07:46,860 --> 00:07:49,239 But we're still reliant on him making a mistake, 154 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,399 which so far he's shown no sign of doing. 155 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,097 Despite the depravity of his acts, his planning is meticulous. 156 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,975 You're not convinced this is the best way forward? 157 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,815 Well, I think it's better than what we have. 158 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:00,890 What do you really think? 159 00:08:00,915 --> 00:08:03,300 If you were starting from scratch, what would you do? 160 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,079 Ah, well, it's frustrating, really. 161 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,399 I haven't been able to devise a proper plan, not in ten days. 162 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,200 It's just too complex for quick fixes. 163 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,775 It's like, erm, do you remember that old joke 164 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,199 about a tourist going up to a farmer and saying, 165 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,855 "what's the best way to Dingle?" 166 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,935 and he gets the reply, "Ah, well, now, 167 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,400 "if I was you, I wouldn't be starting from here." 168 00:08:24,780 --> 00:08:27,200 That's pretty much where I think we are with it. 169 00:08:27,780 --> 00:08:29,420 Where would you start from? 170 00:08:33,991 --> 00:08:37,760 I wrote this down at the very first meeting that I attended. 171 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,359 It's all about the DNA. 172 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,815 The DNA has slanted every avenue of enquiry that they have followed. 173 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,055 You and I both know that a mass swabbing programme 174 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,655 is very hard to pull off. 175 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:52,279 It's a tactic of last resort. 176 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,079 But they've got so much invested in the DNA, 177 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,240 that change has become unthinkable. 178 00:08:57,617 --> 00:08:59,622 As an outsider looking in, 179 00:08:59,647 --> 00:09:02,399 I think there must be another way. 180 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,340 I just don't know what it is yet. 181 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,620 Will you hang around and give this some more thought, Colin? 182 00:09:11,060 --> 00:09:14,399 If there is a change of direction, it can't come from me. 183 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,815 Simon's got so much invested in Minstead. 184 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,399 I can't walk in there and tell him it's all got to change. 185 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,400 It's awkward, I agree. 186 00:09:20,401 --> 00:09:22,399 No, it's not awkward, it's untenable. 187 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,055 I'll make sure we look after Simon if you tell me now 188 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,735 that you'll stick around and devise a workable alternative plan? 189 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,915 And by "stick around," I mean... 190 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,820 past your retirement date if necessary. 191 00:09:36,700 --> 00:09:38,400 Yes, course I will. 192 00:09:58,874 --> 00:10:00,400 All right. 193 00:10:01,020 --> 00:10:02,076 All right. 194 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,180 See anything you like, Diamanda? 195 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,560 Yeah. 196 00:10:11,107 --> 00:10:12,400 The lighter. 197 00:10:14,820 --> 00:10:16,180 Can I take a look? 198 00:10:18,603 --> 00:10:19,603 What? 199 00:10:20,375 --> 00:10:22,900 I think you're losing your touch. 200 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,620 Always coming in here empty-handed. 201 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:30,180 You're just like a fucking window shopper these days. 202 00:10:31,140 --> 00:10:32,420 Suit yourself. 203 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:38,015 All right, all right, all right. 204 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,880 - Morning, sir. - All right? 205 00:10:53,048 --> 00:10:56,660 Guv... he hit Colbridge Road again last night. 206 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,880 What? Come on. 207 00:11:37,211 --> 00:11:38,211 Colin. 208 00:11:38,806 --> 00:11:40,126 Simon. 209 00:11:57,593 --> 00:12:01,119 Most of the Minstead hallmarks present and correct. 210 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,935 He stole cash and jewellery, 211 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,960 but he made no attempt to engage with the victims. 212 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:07,920 Victims? 213 00:12:07,921 --> 00:12:11,060 Yeah, another elderly couple. Shaken but unhurt. 214 00:12:11,940 --> 00:12:14,639 Well, if targeting couples is becoming a thing, 215 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,860 we'll need to alter the screening criteria. 216 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,700 Colin? 217 00:12:22,300 --> 00:12:26,199 Every time we're just hoping that this is the one where he slips up. 218 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,239 But he doesn't, so we wait for the next one, 219 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,639 and the next and the next one. 220 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,420 We've got to get ahead of him, Simon. 221 00:12:31,700 --> 00:12:32,959 I don't disagree. 222 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,759 But the first thing that needs to change is this 223 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,159 "we're not a bloody burglary squad" mantra. 224 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,159 I've never heard anyone say that, Colin. 225 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,599 Well, I have. And do you know what? 226 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,380 He is a bloody burglar. 227 00:12:43,620 --> 00:12:46,998 He's a bright one, and a weird one, but he's still a burglar. 228 00:12:53,988 --> 00:12:57,788 No cordon, no house-to-house. 229 00:12:58,768 --> 00:13:00,926 I read your report last night, Colin. 230 00:13:00,951 --> 00:13:02,180 It's good work. 231 00:13:02,540 --> 00:13:05,580 Minstead Lite takes effect from today. 232 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,260 Thank you. 233 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,240 Look, erm... 234 00:13:10,060 --> 00:13:11,960 I haven't told the others this yet, 235 00:13:11,985 --> 00:13:14,600 but as of next week I have to go on restricted duties 236 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,999 because of my back, 237 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,405 so I'm gonna need an SIO 238 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:20,064 who's really gonna be boots on the ground. 239 00:13:20,373 --> 00:13:21,780 You want me to do it? 240 00:13:22,053 --> 00:13:23,555 I've cleared it with Hamish. 241 00:13:23,580 --> 00:13:26,579 - Course, I'll still be in overall command. - Yeah. 242 00:13:26,580 --> 00:13:28,580 - And on the end of a phone. - Yeah, of course. 243 00:13:35,837 --> 00:13:39,859 Going forward, fresh Minstead crimes will be viewed 244 00:13:39,884 --> 00:13:41,884 as intelligence-gathering opportunities, 245 00:13:41,909 --> 00:13:43,839 but not processed to the letter. 246 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,079 We'll exploit any lead that might identify him, 247 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,479 but otherwise dispense with statements, actions, 248 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,079 attend and bureaucracy. 249 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,439 - Nice one, boss. - Yeah, that'll really free us up. 250 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,439 No, it's Colin's idea. Benefit of a fresh pair of eyes. 251 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,135 Well, let's hope something comes of it. 252 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,160 It's timely, 253 00:13:59,161 --> 00:14:02,440 cos we need to widen the screening after the Colbridge Road offences. 254 00:14:03,180 --> 00:14:04,220 Nathan. 255 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,439 Yeah, er, Minstead Man has now hit two residences 256 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,735 with multiple occupants, 257 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,439 and in neither case has he engaged with his victims. 258 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,439 We're barely on top of our existing cases, 259 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:15,440 and we're adding more? 260 00:14:15,441 --> 00:14:17,895 Barely? We're not even touching the sides. 261 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,519 - Well, now you'll have more time. - Well, not much, guv. 262 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Because we're also suspending DNA swabbing. 263 00:14:23,684 --> 00:14:24,919 As of next week, 264 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,439 I have to go on restricted duties on account of my back, 265 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,639 so Colin will be taking over the day-to-day, 266 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,119 - but reporting to me directly. - Thank you, Simon. 267 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,479 Yeah, Mr Morgan will very much remain in command, 268 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,199 but I'm looking forward to working with you all much more closely. 269 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,239 And, apologies in advance if I'm still catching up 270 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,740 with what I appreciate is a vast and complex case. Thank you. 271 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:49,599 - You'll be sorely missed, guv. - Thanks, Kenny. 272 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,400 Won't be the same without you. 273 00:14:52,260 --> 00:14:55,919 I want to mount limited surveillance around Colbridge Road. 274 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,679 He's hit there twice in two weeks. 275 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,479 If that's not provocation, I don't know what is. 276 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,119 He hits it a third time, we're gonna look seriously inept. 277 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,799 We'll look like we can't find our arse with both hands. 278 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,519 When you say "limited", do you mean low-key? 279 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,015 Just a couple of blokes in cars? 280 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,559 Yeah, maybe a van or two. 281 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,399 Yeah, he hasn't made a significant mistake in 17 years. 282 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,960 Do you think he'll fall for it? 283 00:15:14,915 --> 00:15:16,215 I think it's worth a punt. 284 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,399 Yeah and if he doesn't risk a third go-round, 285 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,500 - then no harm done. - Yeah, we had it covered. 286 00:15:20,525 --> 00:15:23,025 - Exactly. Set it up. - Nice one, guv. 287 00:15:24,469 --> 00:15:25,999 Sorry I'm late, boss. 288 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,439 Informant kept me waiting. 289 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,359 Best ones always do. OK, what've you got? 290 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,599 Well, I showed my snout the jewellery pics. 291 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,599 She reckons she's seen the silver necklace 292 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,335 belonging to the Allenhall Road victim, Sandra Nelson. 293 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,719 Where's she seen it? 294 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,479 Pawn shop in Forest Hill. 295 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,480 Do you trust her? 296 00:15:40,481 --> 00:15:43,080 Oh, wouldn't go that far, but here you are. 297 00:15:43,580 --> 00:15:45,340 She sneaked a photo. 298 00:15:46,702 --> 00:15:48,919 That looks like the same necklace to me. 299 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,119 Now, the owner is a Brian Royce, 300 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,319 and he should've taken the details of the seller, 301 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,159 but even if he didn't, there's cameras inside and out. 302 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,919 So, potentially, this Brian Royce could give us Minstead Man's name? 303 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,980 Potentially, but Royce does have a history of non-cooperation. 304 00:16:05,146 --> 00:16:06,559 So, why haven't you picked him up? 305 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,435 Well, er, cos he's also got form for GBH. 306 00:16:10,460 --> 00:16:12,100 Team effort, I think, guv. 307 00:16:12,459 --> 00:16:14,500 I'll leave this for you, Colin, I think. 308 00:16:14,525 --> 00:16:16,759 I can certainly help with the stab vests. 309 00:16:37,460 --> 00:16:38,639 All units, all units. 310 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,239 Be aware, I have eyes on the suspect 311 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,640 approaching the pawn shop on foot from the high street end. 312 00:16:42,990 --> 00:16:46,740 If it's safe, we take him before he enters the shop. 313 00:16:47,060 --> 00:16:48,420 Copy that. 314 00:16:49,029 --> 00:16:52,029 He's just approaching the shop now. Move in. 315 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,020 Go. Take him. 316 00:17:24,498 --> 00:17:25,679 Morning, Brian. 317 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,319 - Now, behave yourself. - What's going on? 318 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,199 I'm arresting you on suspicion of handling stolen goods. 319 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,479 You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence 320 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,039 if you fail to mention when questioned 321 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,100 something which you later rely on in court. 322 00:17:42,136 --> 00:17:43,680 Who sold you this, Brian? 323 00:17:46,195 --> 00:17:47,792 No comment. 324 00:17:49,151 --> 00:17:51,439 Well, we know the sale's very recent. 325 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,060 Last few days. 326 00:17:55,447 --> 00:17:56,680 No comment. 327 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,960 This man's done some terrible things. 328 00:18:00,514 --> 00:18:02,199 He's not someone you want to protect, 329 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,460 not someone you want to be associated with. 330 00:18:08,655 --> 00:18:11,340 But if you don't tell us, the cameras in your shop will. 331 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,935 We're viewing that footage right now. 332 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,340 There's no downside in co-operating. 333 00:18:18,540 --> 00:18:20,780 Who sold you the necklace, Brian? 334 00:18:21,429 --> 00:18:22,919 We need a name. 335 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,215 Otherwise we'll have to re-focus our inquiry 336 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,600 onto the provenance of every piece of jewellery in your shop, say. 337 00:18:31,106 --> 00:18:35,420 I'd like to take a break, so I can speak to my lawyer. 338 00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:37,180 Of course. 339 00:18:37,205 --> 00:18:40,735 - Interview paused at... - Scared, isn't he? For a tough guy? 340 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:41,560 Hmm. 341 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,559 - Got to be somewhere? - Oh, it's just a family thing. 342 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,799 Go, I'll call if anything changes. 343 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,560 Thanks, Nathan. 344 00:18:52,068 --> 00:18:53,120 Oh, hang on. 345 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:57,180 You said he'd done some terrible things? 346 00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:00,420 What kind of things? 347 00:19:01,220 --> 00:19:04,160 He's a serial rapist who targets elderly women. 348 00:19:04,465 --> 00:19:06,140 The Night Stalker? 349 00:19:06,660 --> 00:19:08,340 The Old Dear Hunter? 350 00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:10,465 Yeah. 351 00:19:11,465 --> 00:19:13,465 You're barking up the wrong tree, love. 352 00:19:14,765 --> 00:19:18,800 I'd have given you his name in a fucking heartbeat. 353 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,667 I found these two loitering with intent. 354 00:19:33,692 --> 00:19:35,655 Oh! Sorry we're late. 355 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,240 Oh, don't be silly. 356 00:19:39,352 --> 00:19:41,560 - All right, Dad? - These wings are done. 357 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,880 Er... yeah, they are, yeah. 358 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,460 How are you, Dad? 359 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,820 How are you, is more to the point. 360 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:52,680 - I hear you're busy again. - Yeah. Yeah, I am. 361 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,174 Watch your back. 362 00:19:56,478 --> 00:19:58,679 I know things have changed since my day. 363 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,800 - There you go, have a beer. - Oh, thank you. 364 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:03,680 The grass is always greener, isn't it? 365 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,679 Taking over someone else's case is always a bit messy. 366 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,679 I'm not taking over, I'm just helping out. 367 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,679 Oh, yeah? Oh yeah, your mum picked this up for you. 368 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,159 - I did not! - Oh, yes, you did. 369 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,895 It's an early birthday present, isn't it? 370 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,000 _ 371 00:20:29,445 --> 00:20:31,959 I've finally got my way about a cruise. 372 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,160 You haven't! 373 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,519 Christ! 374 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,399 Only took me 20 years. 375 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,359 - Why the change of heart, Dave? - What change of heart? 376 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:42,199 You're going, aren't you? 377 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,679 I always say being shut up on the high seas 378 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,679 with a bunch of numpties sounds like a nightmare, 379 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,479 only now I'll be able to say so with authority! 380 00:20:56,780 --> 00:20:58,140 I won't be a moment. 381 00:20:59,140 --> 00:21:00,980 I bet you'll enjoy it. 382 00:21:08,780 --> 00:21:10,779 - Yes, guv? - Any luck with that necklace? 383 00:21:10,780 --> 00:21:11,975 Lab just called. 384 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,015 Three sets of female DNA on the chain and clasp, 385 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,135 not one is a match to Sandra Nelson. 386 00:21:18,161 --> 00:21:20,079 So it's probably not her necklace, then? 387 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,780 I really think it's a coincidence, guv. 388 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:26,779 - What about Brian Royce? - Sticking to his story. 389 00:21:26,780 --> 00:21:28,354 Won't tell us where he got the necklace, 390 00:21:28,355 --> 00:21:30,119 but insists it wasn't Minstead Man. 391 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:32,520 All right. OK, thanks, Nathan. 392 00:21:39,025 --> 00:21:40,895 Now, make sure you lock the front door 393 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,839 and bolt the French windows, eh? 394 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,255 If your man tries breaking into ours, 395 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,780 it'll be the last thing he does. 396 00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:49,879 Oh, blimey, have a word, Mum, will you? 397 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,600 - Bye, love. - Bye-bye. 398 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,599 - Bye-bye. Take care of yourself. - Bye-bye. 399 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,240 Night-night. 400 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,940 Bye. 401 00:22:15,345 --> 00:22:16,240 Nathan? 402 00:22:16,241 --> 00:22:19,319 Just had local CID on the phone. He's gone berserk. 403 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,599 Hit three homes in the last two hours, 404 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,319 and we're hearing reports of a fourth. 405 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,279 - Colbridge Road? - Miles away... Thornton Heath. 406 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,599 - Are you short-handed? - That's an understatement. 407 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,119 All right, I'll try and get you a HAT team. 408 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:31,599 No, I already tried. 409 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,319 Busy with a fatal stabbing in Lambeth. 410 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,599 - Where are you? - Boss, you don't... 411 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,360 I'll be an extra pair of hands. Where are you? 412 00:22:54,058 --> 00:22:55,058 Nathan. 413 00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:56,620 Boss. 414 00:22:57,260 --> 00:23:00,402 The victim is an 85-year-old male, 415 00:23:00,427 --> 00:23:03,095 a Mr Tomczyk, and get this... 416 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,519 he insists he was burgled by the same man three months ago. 417 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,199 Is there a record of that offence? 418 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,439 Yeah, local CID sent it our way. 419 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,639 I see. We sent it back cos it didn't have Minstead's MO? 420 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,780 Correct. 421 00:23:15,460 --> 00:23:18,679 Mr Tomczyk's in the garden. He didn't want to be inside, 422 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,159 and doesn't want to go to hospital. He was very clear about that. 423 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,559 - OK. Is this where he got in? - Yes, guv. 424 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,440 Anything? 425 00:23:24,441 --> 00:23:27,119 The tool marks look very much like our man's favourite screwdriver. 426 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,180 Microscope analysis should confirm. 427 00:23:46,784 --> 00:23:48,180 Mr Tomczyk? 428 00:23:48,620 --> 00:23:51,460 This is Mr Sutton, he's in charge. 429 00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:55,120 How do you do, Mr Tomczyk? 430 00:23:55,145 --> 00:23:58,119 I'm very sorry to hear about the ordeal you've had tonight. 431 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:01,119 Are you sure you wouldn't like us to drive you to the hospital 432 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:02,359 just to make sure? 433 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,500 I was in war, Mr Sutton. 434 00:24:05,740 --> 00:24:07,980 You go to hospital when you are shot, 435 00:24:08,380 --> 00:24:11,920 or when you step on a mine and your foot is hanging off. 436 00:24:12,020 --> 00:24:13,540 Fair enough. 437 00:24:16,860 --> 00:24:20,900 I understand you think you've been burgled by this man before? 438 00:24:21,260 --> 00:24:23,140 I don't think it, I know it. 439 00:24:23,380 --> 00:24:24,959 Did you recognise him? 440 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,900 His voice. His smell. 441 00:24:27,025 --> 00:24:30,545 The way he sat there watching me through his mask. 442 00:24:30,820 --> 00:24:33,820 I said, "Oh, hello, it's you again." 443 00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:35,659 What did he say? 444 00:24:35,660 --> 00:24:38,420 He asked me for money. I said no. 445 00:24:38,660 --> 00:24:42,180 He said he would hurt me if I did not give it to him. 446 00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:46,339 So, I, er... I gave him some cash. 447 00:24:46,340 --> 00:24:48,500 I think that was a good idea. 448 00:24:49,066 --> 00:24:51,380 Yes and no. 449 00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:54,660 When I opened wallet, he saw bank card. 450 00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:56,519 And he took that as well? 451 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,100 He asked me for PIN. 452 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:01,980 No way was I giving him the right number... 453 00:25:02,940 --> 00:25:06,659 and I reckoned you would be here before he knew I'd tricked him. 454 00:25:06,660 --> 00:25:09,660 Oh. You're a very brave man. 455 00:25:16,660 --> 00:25:19,780 After you give him the PIN, did he leave? 456 00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:26,580 When I was in the army, I was boxer. 457 00:25:27,180 --> 00:25:29,666 They called me Kon Roboczy, 458 00:25:29,691 --> 00:25:33,004 which means "workhorse" in Polish. 459 00:25:33,660 --> 00:25:37,380 I wasn't strongest, I wasn't fastest... 460 00:25:38,420 --> 00:25:40,420 but I was stubborn. 461 00:25:41,060 --> 00:25:44,100 I stayed on my feet whatever... 462 00:25:48,777 --> 00:25:51,100 whatever they threw at me. 463 00:25:53,476 --> 00:25:56,660 He didn't leave after you gave him the PIN, did he? 464 00:26:04,851 --> 00:26:07,280 I don't want to talk about it. 465 00:26:07,660 --> 00:26:10,660 No. No, I understand. 466 00:26:13,053 --> 00:26:14,895 When you do feel ready, 467 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,480 Patricia here is a very, very good listener. 468 00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:22,440 In fact, she's so good, we pay her to do it. 469 00:26:24,020 --> 00:26:25,420 Thank you. 470 00:26:26,420 --> 00:26:27,660 Cup of tea? 471 00:26:30,660 --> 00:26:31,780 Have you got a map? 472 00:26:32,220 --> 00:26:33,660 Yeah, in the car. 473 00:26:34,220 --> 00:26:38,340 Mr Tomczyk gave him the wrong PIN for his credit card. 474 00:26:38,660 --> 00:26:40,199 Good on him. 475 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,159 Yeah. Well, he must know that we'll stop the card, 476 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,999 so he couldn't use it ASAP. 477 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,279 I'm assuming he has a favourite bank machine? 478 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,659 Yeah, a couple. 479 00:26:48,660 --> 00:26:50,339 Well, what's the nearest one? 480 00:26:50,340 --> 00:26:51,660 Erm... 481 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:55,520 There. 482 00:26:56,060 --> 00:26:58,699 - Yeah, it's close. - Who've we got up and about? 483 00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:02,659 Kenny and Cath attended the first and second. 484 00:27:02,660 --> 00:27:04,659 Adam and Neville went to the third. 485 00:27:04,660 --> 00:27:06,659 Right. Well, they're closer than us, then. 486 00:27:06,660 --> 00:27:08,659 Tell them I want them all watching that cash machine, 487 00:27:08,660 --> 00:27:11,660 - and they don't leave until I say so. - Right. 488 00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:40,215 - How far? - Two minutes. 489 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,040 We can take a shortcut. Left here. 490 00:28:00,555 --> 00:28:02,300 Fuck's sake, Kenny! 491 00:28:13,868 --> 00:28:15,640 Downshire Gardens. 492 00:28:15,876 --> 00:28:18,876 It's a cross street. Right at the end, and you're there. 493 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,920 We should have a view of the cash machine... there. 494 00:28:51,281 --> 00:28:53,640 Well, there's our Ken. 495 00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:56,760 - Oh, bollocks! - Nice one. 496 00:28:59,647 --> 00:29:02,359 How Special Branch didn't snap him up, I'll never know. 497 00:29:11,333 --> 00:29:13,813 Come on, you bastard. Come and get it. 498 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000 _ 499 00:29:33,415 --> 00:29:35,560 Yeah, I'll let him know. He's just arrived. 500 00:29:35,944 --> 00:29:37,920 Yeah. OK, cheers. 501 00:29:43,116 --> 00:29:44,955 I thought we were watching and waiting? 502 00:29:44,956 --> 00:29:46,999 - Too late, boss. We missed him. - What? 503 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,435 Financial boys just called. 504 00:29:48,436 --> 00:29:50,575 He tried to get cash out of there right before we got here. 505 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,775 - We must've missed him by seconds. - Oh, fuck! 506 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,435 - Did the machine swallow his card? - No. 507 00:29:55,436 --> 00:29:57,239 Well, he might've discarded it nearby, then. 508 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,800 Close but no cigar, eh? 509 00:29:59,436 --> 00:30:02,239 I'm kidding. Good punt, sir. 510 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,435 Trip down memory lane, coming back here. 511 00:30:04,436 --> 00:30:05,735 Why, did you attend before? 512 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,435 And the two times before that. 513 00:30:07,436 --> 00:30:09,435 Yeah, he seemed to like that machine so much, 514 00:30:09,436 --> 00:30:11,239 - we went proactive. - Oh, yeah? 515 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,319 We arranged for hidden cameras to be installed near the ATM 516 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,435 just in case he returned. 517 00:30:15,436 --> 00:30:17,135 It was the guv'nor's idea, as I recall. 518 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,320 And you didn't think to mention that before? 519 00:30:19,660 --> 00:30:21,435 Well, I'm mentioning it now, aren't I? 520 00:30:21,436 --> 00:30:23,519 Are they still there? Are they working? 521 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,175 TSU are en route to retrieve the footage. 522 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,935 We're gonna get a look at Minstead Man, a proper look. 523 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,239 If you'd got here five minutes sooner, 524 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,655 he'd be in fucking handcuffs! 525 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,080 - I'm not sure that's fair, boss. - No, it's not. 526 00:30:34,126 --> 00:30:36,411 All right, look, we've had the nearest of near misses. 527 00:30:36,436 --> 00:30:39,435 It's infuriating and it hurts, but we move on. 528 00:30:39,436 --> 00:30:41,380 Let's see what the TSU bring. 529 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,999 - They're in the phone box. - Eh? 530 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,436 The cameras. 531 00:30:52,436 --> 00:30:56,815 At 12:36 AM, he walks briskly from Lessing Street, 532 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,695 makes a couple of "lifesaver" glances behind, 533 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,080 as he approaches the ATM. 534 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,039 Erm... this is from the second camera. 535 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,319 Looks like he's wearing some kind of blue cagoule. 536 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,719 Yeah, he wears it well. 537 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,319 Zipped up to his nose, and hood pulled over his face. 538 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,039 Is that the best shot we've got of him? 539 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,095 Yeah. He's nothing if not cautious. 540 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,239 Well, maybe there's other things we can glean beyond his appearance. 541 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,055 - Like what? - I don't know, Adam, 542 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,759 but there's two cameras there. There's got to be something. 543 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,999 What about his exit route? 544 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,960 Yeah, let's have a look at that, Cathy. 545 00:31:34,728 --> 00:31:37,368 Whoa, hang on a minute. That's us! 546 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,559 Neville, that's... fucking us, mate. 547 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,399 If we'd have gotten there 30 seconds earlier... 548 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,079 That's spilt milk, Adam. Cathy? 549 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,159 When he gives up on the ATM, 550 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,159 he doesn't go in the direction he came. 551 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,519 He heads west. 552 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,999 Right, what road's that? 553 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,660 It's Ballina Street. 554 00:31:55,060 --> 00:31:58,495 Right. So, applying a bit of street tradecraft, 555 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,599 what do we think? He's arriving by car? 556 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,920 Well, there's no way he got there that fast any other way. 557 00:32:02,945 --> 00:32:05,265 - And not at that time of night. - So, where's he parked? 558 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:07,439 Well, based on his approach, 559 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,700 I'd say near the top end of Lessing Street. 560 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,800 Maybe Flintock Street. 561 00:32:11,825 --> 00:32:14,559 Agreed, but then he goes off in a different direction. 562 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,500 So, how's he getting back to his car? 563 00:32:18,715 --> 00:32:20,159 What about here? 564 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,980 There's a little cut-through further down Ballina Street. 565 00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:25,839 Crosses back under the railway bridge 566 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,679 - and comes out on Flintock Street. - Loop the loop. 567 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,359 Back in his car in two minutes, guv. 568 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,079 Entrance is about 200 yards west of the ATM. 569 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,479 We did look at putting a camera on it. 570 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,380 Yeah. That's the cut-through there. 571 00:32:37,660 --> 00:32:39,599 Looks like the bushes extend all the way down. 572 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,479 If you were looking to ditch a hot bank card, 573 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,559 it beats a bin or a drain cover, doesn't it? 574 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,639 Kenny, I want a POLSA team down there this afternoon, OK? 575 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,340 - Yes, boss. - All right, good work everyone. Well done. 576 00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:56,759 - Can I have a word, boss? - Yeah, sure. 577 00:32:56,923 --> 00:32:58,860 I mean before we get in a POLSA team. 578 00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:00,900 Hang on one, Kenny. 579 00:33:03,180 --> 00:33:05,540 Mr Morgan called for an update earlier. 580 00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:09,220 Right. Do you know why he called you and not me? 581 00:33:09,580 --> 00:33:11,340 I think he said your phone was busy. 582 00:33:11,660 --> 00:33:12,740 Go on. 583 00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:15,559 Well, I told him about him using his favourite ATM again. 584 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,500 OK? 585 00:33:16,940 --> 00:33:19,100 He doesn't want us making a big fuss. 586 00:33:19,660 --> 00:33:21,639 Says it might put him off returning, 587 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,399 and those cameras weren't cheap to install. 588 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,100 And how's he defining a fuss? 589 00:33:25,980 --> 00:33:29,020 He specifically said not to get in a POLSA team. 590 00:33:29,260 --> 00:33:31,620 With respect, that's not his call. 591 00:33:32,580 --> 00:33:33,780 Right, well... 592 00:33:34,660 --> 00:33:37,080 Can you ring him and tell him that, please? 593 00:33:38,025 --> 00:33:40,420 That's not a conversation I want to have, not now. 594 00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:43,079 Then you're putting me in a difficult position. 595 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,719 That's not my intention. 596 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,639 - Right, so call him. - Look, I know, he's your boss. 597 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,519 - It's not about that. - Well, what is it about? 598 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,759 Loyalty. I'm his number two, he trusts me. 599 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,919 I'm not about to betray that trust for someone I've known five minutes. 600 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,119 No offence. 601 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,000 None taken. You've welcomed me like no-one else on this team. 602 00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:05,559 Right, well, now you can return the favour. 603 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,119 No, sorry. I'm the acting SIO on this, 604 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,479 and my decision is that we search that cut-through. 605 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,879 If there's any problem, I'll be sure he knows you gave me the message, 606 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,380 and I ignored it. It's on me. 607 00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:18,719 OK. 608 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:20,399 Be worth it for the chance of some evidence, 609 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,300 cos, Christ, we need something. 610 00:34:24,140 --> 00:34:26,500 Go on, then, Kenny. Call 'em up. 611 00:34:51,736 --> 00:34:53,120 He's here. 612 00:34:55,220 --> 00:34:56,980 Found a bank card. 613 00:34:59,060 --> 00:35:00,379 Looks weather-damaged. 614 00:35:00,380 --> 00:35:01,839 I'd be surprised if it was stashed there last night. 615 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,140 It's a different name as well. Mrs A Waynflete. 616 00:35:05,380 --> 00:35:07,439 - Anne Waynflete? - Yeah. 617 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,020 She a Minstead victim? 618 00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:10,899 Yeah, two years ago. 619 00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,700 And did he use this card in that ATM two years ago? 620 00:35:14,060 --> 00:35:15,439 Well, looks like. 621 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,460 - Thanks, Tabs, good work. - Thank you. 622 00:35:18,020 --> 00:35:20,559 Well, if they'd have searched this place two years ago, 623 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,219 - they might've got prints and DNA. - Still might. 624 00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:26,119 Not after two years' weather damage. Not a chance. 625 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,699 In fairness, she didn't report a card being stolen. 626 00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:30,699 I took her statement, guv. 627 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:33,060 If you've got any other questions, I'll be happy to help. 628 00:35:34,129 --> 00:35:35,540 Yes, thank you. 629 00:35:58,427 --> 00:36:00,460 If you want somewhere bigger, just say. 630 00:36:01,402 --> 00:36:04,180 Nah. Feels like home now. 631 00:36:06,044 --> 00:36:07,460 What's on your mind? 632 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:10,380 Errol Dobson. 633 00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:12,699 Can you get the team together, please? 634 00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:14,920 - Yeah, sure. - Thanks, Nathan. 635 00:36:19,914 --> 00:36:24,055 Errol Dobson was a prolific burglar of the elderly 636 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,080 in the early nineties. 637 00:36:25,081 --> 00:36:27,519 He was even more prolific than Minstead Man. 638 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,375 He also favoured the night, and he'd been at it for years. 639 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,239 His patch was only small, 640 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,660 just a dozen or so streets in Tottenham. 641 00:36:35,775 --> 00:36:37,555 That just made it all the more galling 642 00:36:37,580 --> 00:36:39,319 when we couldn't catch him. 643 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,719 Some of the team lost faith, you know. 644 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:44,919 They said, "How can one man be responsible for so many offences?" 645 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,140 We were chasing a phantom or a ghost. 646 00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:51,340 And everything we tried, everything failed, 647 00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:55,060 until my boss went proactive. 648 00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:57,319 What did that involve? 649 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,079 Cobbling together 30 bodies and saturating those streets. 650 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,399 We knew how sharp he was, so we had to stay well hidden. 651 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,020 There was no hunkering down in the passenger seat. 652 00:37:06,260 --> 00:37:09,639 - D'you get him? - Night five. Caught in the act. 653 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,639 And that is how we'll catch Minstead Man. 654 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,020 Are you serious? 655 00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:17,279 If you've got a better idea, Kenny, I'm all ears. 656 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,759 But we're not looking at a corner of Tottenham, guv. 657 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,879 Looking at most of South London from the Thames to the M23. 658 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,759 He's right. And we tried going proactive before. 659 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,159 Yes, I know you have, 660 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,559 and Simon agrees it's worth another shot. 661 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,759 By his own admission, that effort was hampered by resources. 662 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,580 And this time it won't be? 663 00:37:34,980 --> 00:37:37,479 - We just need a bigger boat. - Ocean liner. 664 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,839 Fucking aircraft carrier. 665 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,639 Yeah, I'm not feeling this, er, boat analogy. 666 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,919 - It's from Jaws. - Yeah, thanks, Cathy. 667 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,399 No, what I mean is that boat doesn't exist. 668 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,519 It'd take hundreds of officers. 669 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,839 You'd get to keep 'em for two nights max. 670 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,220 This is a bloke who stopped dead for three years. 671 00:37:55,220 --> 00:37:56,500 You finished? 672 00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:57,879 I'm just saying. 673 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,180 No, they're good points, well made. 674 00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:03,719 But we have to try something new, Adam. We have to. 675 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:06,900 Now, analysis can shave down the target area, right, Richard? 676 00:38:07,260 --> 00:38:09,200 - To a degree. - How? 677 00:38:09,225 --> 00:38:13,479 Well, he never goes for flats, local authority, social housing. 678 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,140 It's always private dwellings... houses, bungalows. 679 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,599 What, that's it? 680 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,780 And there's the crimes themselves. The way they're clustered. 681 00:38:21,914 --> 00:38:24,446 Oh, come on. He's offended all over! 682 00:38:24,447 --> 00:38:29,159 Yeah, he has. But going back '92, there's a density of offending 683 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,199 in the Shirley area 684 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,159 that makes it what we call an anchor point. 685 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,639 His hunting ground of choice. 686 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,679 Yeah, and that's the patch where we're most likely 687 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,680 to catch him in the act. 688 00:38:36,681 --> 00:38:38,319 From there we build out a map 689 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,439 of other target areas around Shirley. 690 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,780 Might be a square mile, might be a single street. 691 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,439 This map... what are we supposed to do with it? 692 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,439 We refine it, we cost it, 693 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,439 and then we flog it to the Force Tasking Group. 694 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,439 No-one else can fund an operation of this scale. 695 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,440 And then we go out and nick him. 696 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,439 Sorry, guv, I was with Mr Tomczyk. 697 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,440 How's he doing? 698 00:39:01,441 --> 00:39:03,439 Oh, OK under the circumstances. 699 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,660 He told me what happened, so that's a start. 700 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:08,800 And? 701 00:39:08,801 --> 00:39:11,159 The offender fondled his genitals, 702 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,239 and after threats of violence, forced him to touch his own. 703 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:15,639 Oh, God. 704 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,535 My sense is that was the extent of the sexual contact. 705 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,199 I'll be able to say that with more confidence 706 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,700 after another session. 707 00:39:22,140 --> 00:39:24,440 - Poor man. - Yeah. 708 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,440 And you. 709 00:39:27,979 --> 00:39:29,979 How long have you been on Minstead? 710 00:39:31,228 --> 00:39:32,228 Five years. 711 00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:34,575 It's a lot of victims. 712 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,079 It's gonna take its toll. 713 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,895 I'm like anyone, boss. There's good days and bad. 714 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,320 Yeah, but you're at the sharp end, aren't you? 715 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,775 Oh, at first it was just finding the... vocabulary 716 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,040 to coax the information we needed. 717 00:39:48,140 --> 00:39:50,239 Finding other ways to say "What happened?, 718 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,820 "What did he do to you?" 719 00:39:52,340 --> 00:39:54,239 I used to pause the interviews 720 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,180 so they wouldn't see how upset I was. 721 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,761 Then I was dealing with their children, 722 00:39:58,786 --> 00:40:00,800 and oh, God, that was a whole other thing. 723 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,440 In what way? 724 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,439 First, there's just breaking it to them. 725 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,439 Telling a son or daughter that their mum's been sexually assaulted. 726 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,439 Then you see the dynamics change. 727 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,424 The kids become the parents, and these... 728 00:40:16,088 --> 00:40:19,047 wonderful, totally autonomous adults 729 00:40:19,072 --> 00:40:21,440 become dependent, become the kids. 730 00:40:21,820 --> 00:40:24,019 Hard not to get emotionally involved. 731 00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:27,819 Hmm. Lately I've been going from funeral to funeral 732 00:40:27,820 --> 00:40:32,559 with this terrible sadness, and I won't lie... fury, 733 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,620 that they won't see justice done. 734 00:40:35,820 --> 00:40:39,100 When it's all over, it will hit me, I know it will. 735 00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:42,860 I'm almost looking forward to it. 736 00:40:45,591 --> 00:40:46,820 Richard? 737 00:40:47,872 --> 00:40:49,559 Thanks for backing me up in there. 738 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,999 Hope I didn't come across as a total chancer. 739 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,239 Well, we are taking a chance, aren't we? 740 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,879 Yeah. Yeah, a big one. 741 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,759 I want you to book me a meeting room 742 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,859 - at Scotland Yard next Monday. - No problem. 743 00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:02,819 And I want your help with an email. Concise as possible, 744 00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:05,339 but that conveys the rate and gravity of the offences, 745 00:41:05,340 --> 00:41:07,159 and the need to take urgent action. 746 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,559 Yeah, sure. It'll come from the heart. 747 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,919 Who's it for? 748 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,019 Heads of all the squads that can give us a chance 749 00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:14,639 with the Force Tasking Group. 750 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,319 Oh, you'll need it. FTG reject 92% of funding requests. 751 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,580 Better make that email count, then, eh? 752 00:41:34,148 --> 00:41:36,148 You definitely said Monday? 753 00:41:37,860 --> 00:41:39,820 Only just coming up to ten. 754 00:41:42,350 --> 00:41:44,320 Reminds me of my eighth birthday party. 755 00:41:47,260 --> 00:41:48,559 Neville? 756 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,580 He was out last night. Lady of 70 in Coulsdon. 757 00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:54,460 He started assaulting her, and she begged him to stop. 758 00:41:54,820 --> 00:41:57,640 She says he did. Whether or not that's true, TBC. 759 00:41:57,665 --> 00:41:59,095 Is Patricia with her? 760 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,674 - Yeah, as we speak. - All right. Thanks, Neville. 761 00:42:01,675 --> 00:42:03,040 Keep me posted. 762 00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:05,180 Boss. 763 00:42:06,312 --> 00:42:07,312 Colin? 764 00:42:07,487 --> 00:42:09,375 Superintendent Jackie Miller and 765 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,439 DCI Greg Burns, Covert Policing. 766 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,819 Good to meet you. Thanks so much for coming. 767 00:42:13,820 --> 00:42:15,985 Well, it was a compelling email. 768 00:42:16,010 --> 00:42:18,760 Oh. Oh, good. Come on in. Come on in. This way. 769 00:42:18,820 --> 00:42:22,560 Get dry. Morning. Cup of tea? Cup of coffee? Morning. 770 00:42:22,820 --> 00:42:25,819 I've never made a request to the Force Tasking Group, 771 00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:29,119 but I understand that many of you here are regular bidders, 772 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,839 and I hear that one of you even saw some money once. 773 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,879 Yeah, that was me. 774 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,300 Fucking cheque bounced. 775 00:42:35,367 --> 00:42:38,020 So, we're here to listen and to learn. 776 00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:42,175 I'm a big believer in laying out the plan 777 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,399 in frankly idiot-proof language. I'd say something like, 778 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,599 "By observing every inch of the targeted streets, 779 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,239 "you're seeking to control them." 780 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:53,159 No-one will be able to walk in or out without you seeing them. 781 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,062 If Minstead Man steps on your plot, 782 00:42:55,087 --> 00:42:56,859 you will get him, no ifs no buts. 783 00:42:56,860 --> 00:42:59,959 That means no officers walking around the plot. 784 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:02,999 Everyone needs to be inside a building. 785 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,039 I'd also suggest having surveillance teams on standby 786 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,519 just outside the plot. 787 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,339 If a suspect needs to be questioned, 788 00:43:09,340 --> 00:43:12,239 they can be tailed and pulled over well away from the target area. 789 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,819 Yeah, that's crucial. You don't want word getting out 790 00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:17,020 that there's surveillance going on in Shirley. 791 00:43:39,014 --> 00:43:41,439 We'd be very happy to supply air support 792 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,175 for whatever mission you end up running. 793 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,819 We can watch from an altitude 794 00:43:44,820 --> 00:43:47,940 and be completely undetectable from the ground. 795 00:43:49,020 --> 00:43:51,020 Kevin and I run Central Control. 796 00:43:51,380 --> 00:43:53,559 We can have access to 24/7 live feeds 797 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,660 from thousands of Local Authority and Transport For London cameras. 798 00:44:07,269 --> 00:44:08,819 Looking at your proposed plot, 799 00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:12,380 you'd need at least 150 bodies to throw a net over that. 800 00:44:12,976 --> 00:44:15,640 - Right. - Which you'll never get. 801 00:44:20,025 --> 00:44:23,340 There is a smaller area I've devised... 802 00:44:24,757 --> 00:44:27,239 here in and around Shirley. 803 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,620 Still big, but more achievable. 804 00:44:39,171 --> 00:44:41,700 75 officers should be able to deliver that. 805 00:44:41,820 --> 00:44:43,819 And what are our chances of getting that? 806 00:44:43,820 --> 00:44:48,188 If you ask for 150 officers, they'll probably give you 50. 807 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,980 But if you ask for 75, and you make a good case, 808 00:44:51,340 --> 00:44:52,820 you might get 75. 809 00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:54,859 If we shrink the plot, 810 00:44:54,860 --> 00:44:57,859 the odds of him offending obviously shrink, too. 811 00:44:57,860 --> 00:45:00,819 - By how much? - Well, based on past offences, 812 00:45:00,820 --> 00:45:03,820 they drop from one in three to one in six. 813 00:45:06,820 --> 00:45:08,820 One in six. 814 00:45:17,211 --> 00:45:18,760 You know what? 815 00:45:19,054 --> 00:45:21,220 They're still good odds. I'll take that. 816 00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:23,659 So, when do you pitch to the FTG? 817 00:45:23,660 --> 00:45:26,180 Well, now I know what to ask for, as soon as possible. 818 00:45:26,540 --> 00:45:28,399 Listen... thank you. 819 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,479 Thank you all for your support and your expertise. 820 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,559 I just want to say how much it means 821 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,364 that so many of you responded 822 00:45:35,389 --> 00:45:37,479 and clearly care about this case 823 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,340 and its many, many victims. 824 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,800 Improved by Se7enOfNin9 for addic7ed.com