1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,500 _ 2 00:00:03,540 --> 00:00:08,540 _ 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,750 _ 4 00:00:14,775 --> 00:00:16,024 _ 5 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:21,000 _ 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,320 It's a long time since I felt like I'm on the brink 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,800 of something as wonderful as this. 8 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,560 This is the most valuable thing I own. 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Not in terms of price, 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,320 but memories and dreams. 11 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,640 I've owned it since I was a young girl. 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,120 It was given to me 13 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,800 by special people. 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,760 This is the key that unlocks me. 15 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,440 I think you've experienced the same things as me. 16 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,800 I want you to know what I've done. 17 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:01,000 *CREDITS* 18 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,480 Colin? 19 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,680 I'm so glad you rang. 20 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,900 _ 21 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,689 First, a notorious crime that two months ago 22 00:02:33,714 --> 00:02:36,080 made headlines all over Britain. 23 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,040 On Wimbledon Common in south-west London a young mother, 24 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,280 Rachel Nickell, was waylaid and repeatedly stabbed. 25 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,000 Her scratched and bruised two-year-old son was found 26 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,200 clinging to her body. 27 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,120 A consultant clinical psychologist has been handed evidence 28 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,160 of Rachel's murder 29 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,760 and he is drawing up a likely profile of the killer. 30 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,760 The killer is under the age of 30. 31 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,360 He lives locally. 32 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,720 He's a low achiever, so he has never done well at exams. 33 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,080 He has few friends and has solitary hobbies. 34 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,240 He likes pornography, including some of the violent sort. 35 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,120 He doesn't have a steady girlfriend. 36 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,840 If he's had previous girlfriends, they'll have found him 37 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,800 unsatisfying, sexually inexperienced 38 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,400 and wanting to act out domineering gameplay. 39 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,200 He's has pestered woman before. 40 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,280 Indeed, he may have been caught for minor sex offences. 41 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,641 Above all, he could cause a tragedy 42 00:03:24,666 --> 00:03:26,664 and suffering like this again. 43 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:31,400 Most of the calls are coming in on the Rachel Nickell murder. 44 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,280 We've got a large number of names that have been put forward. 45 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,760 One in particular is causing 46 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,400 considerable interest to the team. 47 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,040 We've also, I've just got one here, 48 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,120 a woman who was on the common at the time, 49 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,120 maybe a possible useful witness. 50 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,120 So 90 calls here to the studio 51 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,720 the last time I spoke to the team. 52 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,880 Ten of them, Superintendent Bassett says, are very interesting. 53 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,760 One man has gone straight to the top of their priority list. 54 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Sit. 55 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,440 Good lad. 56 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,880 Good boy. Good boy. 57 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Keith? 58 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,600 Follow me. 59 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,160 This interview is being tape-recorded. 60 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,080 I'm Detective Inspector Keith Pedder 61 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,200 attached to the Incident Room at Wimbledon Police Station. 62 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,200 The other officer present is... 63 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,760 Detective Constable Martin Long. 64 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,520 What's your full name, please? 65 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,600 Colin Francis Stagg. 66 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,880 Also present is.. 67 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,080 Mr Wood, duty solicitor. 68 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,960 The date is September 18th, 1992. 69 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,480 The time now 3:21pm 70 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,560 and we're in the interview room at Wimbledon Police Station. 71 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,480 Now, you've been arrested on suspicion of the murder 72 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,720 of Rachel Nickell, 73 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,960 which occurred July 15th, 1992. 74 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,640 That's two months ago. 75 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,760 Do you remember that day? 76 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,200 Yeah. 77 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,600 Can you tell me why you remember it? 78 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,080 Well... 79 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,400 ..because of what happened, obviously. 80 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,200 And the... the way I felt that day. 81 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,080 Splitting headache. 82 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,400 I hadn't had a headache since I was a teenager. 83 00:06:49,424 --> 00:06:51,119 _ 84 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,480 After I did my normal things during the morning 85 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,120 and I had my breakfast, did some shopping, 86 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,160 I took Brandy, my dog, straight over the common. 87 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,240 But when I got to the second underpass 88 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:06,600 I was stopped by the police. 89 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,800 I asked what had happened and they told me 90 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:11,440 there had been an incident on the common. 91 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,240 I thought it was flashers 92 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,520 or perverts or something. 93 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,840 They told me that a girl had been murdered 94 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,360 and that they're clearing the common. 95 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,040 What were you wearing 96 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,640 when you went to the common that day? 97 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,160 It had brightened up. 98 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:31,080 I put on my shorts, cutdown jeans, 99 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,120 black T-shirt, 100 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,520 boots I was wearing that morning and a pair of sunglasses. 101 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,120 The shoes that you were wearing that day, 102 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,880 you still got 'em? 103 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,400 No. 104 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,520 I threw them away two days ago. 105 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,160 Where did you throw 'em? 106 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,040 In the rubbish. 107 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,680 Why did you throw them away? 108 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,480 The heel came off. 109 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,840 Studies show from birth to seven 110 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,360 the most important person in a child's life is their mother. 111 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,880 The vast majority of serial killers either have abusive mothers 112 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,720 or the maternal bond was severed abruptly at a young age. 113 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Interventional work with abused children has the potential 114 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,800 to predict which children are likely to be 115 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,680 become serial killers. 116 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,960 How long have you lived at your current address? 117 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,440 Since 1968 or '69. 118 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:45,400 I was living with the family, you know? 119 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,640 Which consisted of...? 120 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,720 Me mum and dad, 121 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,400 me brothers and a sister. 122 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,320 They got divorced, 123 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,120 but my mum remarried 124 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,320 and my dad died in 1986, 125 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,240 so I took over the tenancy. 126 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,520 Were you very close to your dad? 127 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,480 That's why the common is so dear to me, you know? 128 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,000 Since I was a little kid. 129 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,600 That's why I go there with the dog, 130 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,480 because every part of the common reminds me of my dad. 131 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,120 Are you close to your mum? 132 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:25,600 What are you doing? You can't just break in here. 133 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,080 - Why are you trying to run away from me? - I'm not running. 134 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,960 I'm not doing anything. Come home with me. 135 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Please, don't touch me. 136 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,560 You're going to wake the kids up. 137 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,240 Yeah, and they'll find out what a dirty little slut you are. 138 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,560 No, I'm not. 139 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,920 Where is he? 140 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,040 There's no-one here. 141 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,080 - Come on. - No, let's just... 142 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,280 I always felt sorry for my dad 143 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,800 more than anything, you know? 144 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,320 Where is he? 145 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,320 There's no-one here but me and the kids. 146 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,400 - Please just calm down. Please. - Don't you tell me to calm down. 147 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,360 - It's all in your head. - All in my head? 148 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,960 All in my fucking head?! 149 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,560 Sorry, sorry. 150 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,360 - Sorry? - Argh! 151 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,680 She was always out with other blokes. 152 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,120 She actually brought in the bloke she's married to now 153 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,640 when she was still married to my dad. 154 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,800 Right, it fits your profile. 155 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,320 Lives alone or with the parent in close proximity to the crime scene. 156 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,200 Considered odd by those who know him. 157 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,000 All Stagg's neighbours think that he's odd, right? 158 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,480 And this... 159 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,400 "An inappropriate interest in the crime." 160 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,880 That fits Stagg. 161 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,160 He went around talking about it, 162 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,520 telling people a girl had been killed. 163 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:36,440 So if that's what Stagg is, a disorganised killer... 164 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,240 Except, he's not. 165 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,640 Rachel was acquired and controlled. 166 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:45,080 He killed her quickly and effectively 167 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,560 and then vanished, leaving almost no evidence. 168 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,320 Those are not the classic signs of a disorganised homicide. 169 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:58,920 Do you think he's killed before? 170 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,640 No. 171 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:04,320 Repeat killers get more experience as they go on. 172 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,040 They refine their technique and behaviour 173 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,240 and leave a... 174 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,120 ..an ever clearer signature. 175 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,760 So you think he planned it? 176 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,000 He rehearsed it in his masturbatory fantasies, 177 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,920 right down to the finest detail. 178 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,520 All except one. 179 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,520 He couldn't know who the victim would be. 180 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,800 So she could have been anyone? 181 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,200 Anyone... 182 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,000 ..with lovely long blonde hair. 183 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,160 To get this right, 184 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,400 you need to understand what he's capable of. 185 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,760 And you needn't concern yourself with his past. 186 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,280 It's his future you should be worried about. 187 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,080 It's inevitable he will kill another young woman at some point. 188 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,480 How long? 189 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,000 I mean, 190 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,760 how much time do we have? 191 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,480 Oh, I'm afraid I can't say, Sadie. 192 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,800 But I can tell you that killers like this don't do it just once 193 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,680 and then live off the memory forever. 194 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,920 It fades, like... 195 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,440 like all memories. 196 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,240 It lessons in intensity. 197 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,880 And it needs to be felt again. 198 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,080 You've had two girlfriends? 199 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,040 What kind of relationship did you have with Wendy? 200 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,000 Well, I would say proper. 201 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,680 It wasn't full sexual intercourse, but... 202 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,000 ..we did things together, you know? 203 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,480 Can you tell me what that was? 204 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,920 She'd come round to my place 205 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,520 some evenings... 206 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,080 ..and take a few clothes off and that and... 207 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,000 ..just generally play with each other. 208 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,720 Any problems in that way at all? 209 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,120 No. 210 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,960 I was round her place one evening... 211 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,800 ..we was just snogging on the couch, 212 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,480 and... she closed the door... 213 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,120 ..took her top off... 214 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,800 ..and it just went on from there, you know? 215 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,720 And what was it that you found... 216 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,240 ..most attractive... about Wendy? 217 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,720 Hard to believe it, 218 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,280 but her hair. 219 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,760 I told her a lot of times. 220 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,520 When I used to sit with her... 221 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,760 ..her head dipped. 222 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:11,480 The smell of her hair just REALLY made me feel relaxed 223 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,920 and turned on, you know? 224 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,720 ..the natural smell of her hair... 225 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,480 Hello. 226 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,040 All right? 227 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,160 You sound a bit flat, Colin. 228 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Yeah. 229 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,160 Yeah, I'm OK. 230 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,640 Just people around here, spreading rumours about me and that. 231 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,760 Why? 232 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Well, it's mainly cos of something that happened last year. 233 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,680 You know, people just can't keep themselves to themselves. 234 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,920 It's even worse where I'm from. People just love to gossip. 235 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,240 Well, this is more than gossip. 236 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,760 Oh, God, can't you move? 237 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,960 No, I've been living here since 1968. 238 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 I've got all my memories here, I've got a nice home, 239 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,480 I'm not giving that up for anybody. 240 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,360 You know what? You're dead right. 241 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,200 You shouldn't just uproot yourself just because people are being mean. 242 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,120 Yeah. 243 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,000 Look, it's just that something terrible happened around here. 244 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,600 You probably read about it, in the news. 245 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,720 No, I... 246 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,520 ..I don't pay much attention to the newspapers and... 247 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,800 ..don't really have a television. 248 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,160 You know, it's just cos I'm not married. 249 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,200 I don't have kids or a car or a job. 250 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,760 They think there's something weird about that, there's... 251 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,960 It's just playing on my mind. You know? 252 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,520 Yeah, people are awful. 253 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,880 If you don't fit into what their idea is, 254 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,560 that's their problem. 255 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,360 Yeah. 256 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,760 If you wanted to spend the summer with me... 257 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,920 ..it's very nice around here. 258 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,200 It's very green, there's nice parklands and that, you know? 259 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,920 Yeah? 260 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,040 Yeah. 261 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,720 Yeah, we could enjoy ourselves, you know? 262 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,000 I'll think about it. 263 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,280 We just have to get a few hurdles out of the way first. 264 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,640 But I'll definitely consider it. 265 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:11,600 Don't worry, I won't prejudge you if you don't prejudge me. 266 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,440 It's just nothing like this has ever really happened to me before. 267 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,760 You know? 268 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:23,440 No-one's ever really shown interest, so... 269 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,680 ..I'm not going to give that up for anything. 270 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,600 You might not even like me when you meet me. 271 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,240 Oh... 272 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,920 You know, you get so used to, uh... 273 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,520 ..not trusting someone... 274 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,920 ..and then, uh... 275 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,960 ..you build up a wall to protect yourself. 276 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,920 And then, suddenly... 277 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,400 ..you meet want someone you want to trust and... 278 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,080 ..it's difficult to let that barrier slip. 279 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,240 I know, yeah. 280 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,360 But I'm getting there. 281 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,760 Lizzie... 282 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,280 What? 283 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:13,920 I love you. 284 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,960 I'm not going to give that up for anything. 285 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,400 You might not even like me when you meet me. Oh... 286 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,880 You know, you get so used to, uh... 287 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,480 It's difficult to let that barrier slip. 288 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,240 But I'm getting there. 289 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,520 - Lizzie. - What? 290 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:00,800 I love you. 291 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,720 It's pretty good, right? 292 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,040 So, Colin Stagg's in love with you? 293 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,640 It worked. I won his trust. 294 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,040 If he's in love with you, he'll be 295 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,400 thinking about you all the time, obsessing about you. 296 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,400 Good! The more he wants me, the more likely 297 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,800 he is to tell me what he's done. 298 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,960 Let's not forget about what he did to Rachel. 299 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,160 How's your family? 300 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,600 What? 301 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,400 Well, you checked in with them recently? 302 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,400 You checked in with your wife recently? 303 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,160 I'm doing what I need to do, Baz. 304 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,280 You of all people should understand that. 305 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,200 - Yeah, I do understand that. - I've got a real chance here. 306 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,000 To do something none of the men could ever do. 307 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,480 They wouldn't have the balls for it, even if they could. 308 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,640 Yeah, I get that. 309 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,000 But we need to think about where it's heading, Sadie. 310 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,760 To a confession. 311 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,880 To material evidence. 312 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,040 To no more women being killed. 313 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Listen, Pedder and Wickerson are getting squeezed by the Yard 314 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,600 and they're going to keep pushing you. 315 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,640 So we need to be honest with each other, Sadie. 316 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,240 I need to know you're really OK with what they're asking you to do 317 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,040 and you need to think seriously about how far you're prepared to go. 318 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,360 All the fucking way. 319 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,200 Slainte. 320 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,000 The room was filled with candlelight and smoke, 321 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,440 and everyone was chanting. 322 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,520 It was electric. 323 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,720 And she was laid out on this... 324 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,560 ..this kind of altar. 325 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,600 And I was looking at her, and she was looking at me, 326 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,800 and then he handed me the knife. 327 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,480 And I did what he asked me to do. 328 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,920 There was a look on her face when I did it. 329 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,600 I know it's such an awful thing to say, but... 330 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,280 ..it really was the greatest moment in my entire life. 331 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,120 And what does it sound like? 332 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,360 When a knife cuts human flesh. 333 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,240 It's more like how it feels. 334 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,040 It's like this power coursing through your veins, 335 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,320 like you're in total control. 336 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:43,880 Tell me again what you did. 337 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,320 So, I took the knife in my hand, 338 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:49,480 and she was just laying there naked. 339 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,360 You're not eating. 340 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,000 Oh, what the fuck... 341 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,200 I can't. 342 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,880 It needs to be as normal for you as it is for him. 343 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,720 And so I took the knife, and she was smiling at me. 344 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:34,920 She was willing me to do it... 345 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,280 Start again. I don't believe you. 346 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,200 If he wants to be in control 347 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,880 so much, why wouldn't I be more submissive? 348 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,200 He wants someone he can trust with his secret. 349 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,360 This whole Satanic cult thing, it's... 350 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,640 Is designed to specifically appeal to the killer of Rachel Nickell. 351 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,040 To humanise his fantasies. 352 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,200 To win his confidence. 353 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,360 Don't touch her. 354 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,800 Everything she does now must be of her own free will. 355 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,800 You understand, Catherine, what your future is to be? 356 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,200 Yes. And I am content. 357 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:38,760 - Yes. And I am content. - And I am content. 358 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,440 Yes. 359 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,360 And I am content. 360 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,600 If my master pleased with his virgin sacrifice? 361 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:58,760 You have no idea what these people are capable of. 362 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,240 They deal directly with the devil. 363 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,440 - He told me he had to kill her. - He told me he had to kill her. 364 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,160 They made a bargain. 365 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,760 He had this sort of cellar 366 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,320 in his basement, 367 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:16,680 with candles and an altar, 368 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,400 and what you'd call some sort of chalice? 369 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,720 If I had known her blood would end up in there... 370 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,840 If I had known he'd make me drink it... 371 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,440 No! 372 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,880 You were up that common, weren't you? 373 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,960 Indecently exposing yourself to women. 374 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,080 - Hello? - Ey up, mate. It's me. 375 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:52,280 Yeah, do you want to come up? 376 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,440 I was sunbathing naked there. 377 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,120 She says you smiled at her. 378 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,120 She smiled at me first. 379 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,080 And then you opened your legs. 380 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,720 I went up there to sunbathe. 381 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,120 If you just give me two minutes. 382 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,880 I'll pop the kettle on, then. 383 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,040 I just need to finish the end of this. 384 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,240 She didn't have to look. 385 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,520 Women have got the right to walk on that common unmolested, 386 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,560 without fear of seeing naked people, 387 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,000 in particular, naked men. 388 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,920 Defining characteristics... 389 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,560 So, have you shacked up with a student, then, or what? 390 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,080 This stuff is... it's mind-blowing. 391 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,120 Seriously. 392 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,240 Lucy, they should teach us this shit at Hendon. 393 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,200 So, this is why you haven't been calling me back, then, is it? 394 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,120 Sadie? 395 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,920 Sadie. 396 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,960 When did you last see daylight? 397 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,800 Sade...! 398 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,360 Sade... hold up, mate...! 399 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,040 Hold up... Hold up...! 400 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,080 Oh...! 401 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,920 You all right? 402 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,120 I'm good...! 403 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,760 I can't keep up with you and your long legs, man. 404 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,280 It's not funny. 405 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,120 What are you doing with all this research? 406 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,640 We do what we do based on instinct. 407 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,520 This is different. 408 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,520 I have to understand what makes him the way he is. 409 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,120 Listen to me, Stagg's mum left when he was a kid, right? 410 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,840 Severed bond. 411 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,920 So you do think that Stagg's a serial killer, then? 412 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,640 Yeah, I think he will be if I don't stop him. 413 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,680 What, just you, mate, yeah? 414 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,280 No, it's not just me. 415 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,520 There's Pedder, there's the professor. 416 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,840 His profile of the killer is spot on and literally describes Stagg. 417 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,520 But you don't think that these profiles are a bit vague? 418 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,640 I mean, they all sound the same to me. 419 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,520 Weirdo, white, in their 20s, lives alone or with a parent, 420 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,320 who are into martial arts and hard-core porn. 421 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,160 Come on... Morning, ladies! 422 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,080 What, do you want a bit of this, do you? 423 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:34,800 Sade. 424 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,200 Well, you can if you want. Go on, get it out. 425 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,720 In fact, you can have both of us, if you like. 426 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,320 Ah, is it not big enough? 427 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,800 Sade. Go on, walk off, then. Go on. 428 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,520 Sade. 429 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,000 Come on, mate, let's go home. I'm knackered. 430 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,880 Come on, man. 431 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,600 Come on. 432 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,960 You're not telling me the truth. 433 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,480 About the time that you were on the common. 434 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,440 It wasn't two years ago, that may seem. 435 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,400 You saw her on July 15 and she recognised you. 436 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,320 I never saw Rachel that day. 437 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,880 You did see Rachel. 438 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,720 I did not see Rachel that day. 439 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,120 Why? 440 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,280 Hm? 441 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,880 Why did you? 442 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,355 Please. Tell me. 443 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,480 Hm? 444 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,160 What was it that made you do it? 445 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,120 Lizzie, Lizzie... 446 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,760 Hi, Colin... 447 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,880 - Hello. - Hi, Lizzie. 448 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,640 - What are you up to? - Nothing much. 449 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,760 Just, uh, cat sitting for that lady I told you about. 450 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,400 - Yeah. - What about you? 451 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,200 I've been in my garden. 452 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,320 I've just been picking fruit. You know, for my wine. 453 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,000 - What sort? - Erm, well... 454 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,200 Redcurrants and that, you know. 455 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,440 I can't wait to taste it. 456 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,400 Is it strong? 457 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,920 What's that? 458 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,880 - Sorry, what? - What's that... 459 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,080 ..I just heard there in the back? 460 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,760 Erm... 461 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,520 They play the radio next door really loud. 462 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,400 Can you, erm... 463 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,280 Can you give me a call back later, Colin? 464 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,320 Yeah, that sounded like it was... 465 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,800 Yeah? Uh, yeah, yeah. OK, yeah. 466 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,000 OK. 467 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,880 OK, bye, bye, bye. 468 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,880 You were up on that hill the day of the murder. 469 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,560 No. 470 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,360 I think I saw her, Rachel, on... on the common. 471 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,200 But I'm not sure. It was about two years ago. 472 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,520 - Did you expose yourself to her? - No. 473 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,640 - It wasn't a nude sunbathing day? - No. 474 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,360 It wasn't two years ago, that may seem. 475 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,560 - It was a lot closer to the murder that happened, wasn't it? - No. 476 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,320 It was two years ago. 477 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,200 She was smiling at me. 478 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,200 And I thought... 479 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,120 "Nice looking girl." You know? 480 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,680 - It wasn't two years ago, was it, Colin? - Yes, it was. 481 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,960 You came up there, didn't you? You wanted to bump into her again. 482 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,920 Yeah, I was hoping that I'd see her there, yeah. 483 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,600 You wanted to progress it, didn't you? 484 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,320 I've got two witnesses who are certain in their minds 485 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,720 the dates and times that they saw you. 486 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,920 You thought, "I'll try my luck." 487 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,800 She smiled at me. 488 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,360 What was it about Rachel that day? 489 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,440 - I never saw Rachel that day. - You did see Rachel. 490 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,040 - I did not. - You did. 491 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,600 I did not see Rachel that day. 492 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,200 I never saw Rachel that day. 493 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,160 You did see Rachel that day! 494 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,680 But I never did it. I'm not a killer. 495 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:16,480 - I can never do anything like that. - Like what? 496 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,480 Murder. A raping, a murder. I couldn't do that! 497 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,900 _ 498 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,440 But I never did it. I'm not a killer. 499 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,760 I can never do anything like that. 500 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,120 - Like what? - Murder. A raping, a murder. 501 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,600 I couldn't do that! 502 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,920 There are things that happened to me a long time ago. 503 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,520 Bad things. 504 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,280 And I've only ever told one man. 505 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,760 And when I did, it all went to shit. 506 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,200 I really want to tell you what happened to me, Colin. 507 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,600 But I can't go through that again...! 508 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,280 I can't...! 509 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,880 The Commissioner wants results yesterday. 510 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,680 And does he think that I don't?! 511 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:21,920 He's not the arsehole that has to call Rachel's family every week. 512 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,720 What? 513 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,160 Keith. Mate. 514 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,509 Hear you've got a covert op running. 515 00:36:43,534 --> 00:36:45,120 You care to comment? 516 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,840 Yeah, sure. 517 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,560 You want to come up to my office? 518 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,480 Your source is unreliable. 519 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,760 You deny it, then? 520 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,120 Let me offer you some advice. 521 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:14,360 Any irresponsible reporting will be viewed with a very jaundiced eye. 522 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,440 So you can fuck off. 523 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,120 And tell your source when I find out who he is, he'll need a wheelchair. 524 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,800 Can I quote you on that? 525 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,920 It wouldn't be in the public interest for me 526 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,880 to just walk away from a story like this. 527 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,840 Well, if you don't... 528 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,480 ..you won't be walking anywhere. 529 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,520 Mate. 530 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,520 Sadie. 531 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,160 You've got to be kidding! So the press know about me? 532 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,480 How did that happen? 533 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,800 Look, I've held him off for now. 534 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,760 All right? But if this goes to print, the op's fucked. 535 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,818 We need to move things on a bit 536 00:38:04,843 --> 00:38:06,880 faster than I would have liked. 537 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,480 Move them on how? 538 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,640 It's been approved already, Sadie. 539 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,120 - The Yard signed off on it this morning. - Did they? 540 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,400 What did they sign off on? 541 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,840 We need you to go and... 542 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,280 ..to go and meet Stagg. 543 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,880 Good. 544 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,160 Why am I always the last to know? 545 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,040 Colin, my darling, you are driving me mad. 546 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,200 And I love your special letters. 547 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,120 Tell me something that will really send me crazy. 548 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,440 I can't help thinking you are showing great restraint. 549 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,000 You are showing control when I feel like you're bursting. 550 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,400 I want you to burst. 551 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,840 I want you to feel all-powerful and overwhelming 552 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,120 so that I'm completely in your power. 553 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:45,560 Stop! 554 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,080 Fucking hell. 555 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,960 Shit. Shit! 556 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,400 Sadie! 557 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:20,080 Sadie! 558 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,920 Can you give me like ten minutes? 559 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,000 Fuck sake, you twat. 560 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,520 What's she playing at? 561 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:55,000 She's coming. There's reputation's on the line here, Keith. 562 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,400 Not least yours and mine. 563 00:41:02,980 --> 00:41:05,020 It's lovely here in the summertime. 564 00:41:05,044 --> 00:41:07,044 It's lovely here in the summertime. 565 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,720 It's lovely here in the summertime. 566 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,040 It's lovely here. You can sit on the deckchairs and feed the ducks. 567 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,880 It's lovely here in the summertime. 568 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,600 You can sit on the deckchairs and feed the ducks. 569 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000 _ 570 00:41:26,024 --> 00:41:27,924 _ 571 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,160 There's secrets about me I long to share with someone. 572 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,760 This is the most valuable thing I own, not in terms of price, 573 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,800 but memories and dreams. 574 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,520 I've owned it since I was a young girl. 575 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,280 It was given to me by special people. 576 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,560 This is the key that unlocks me. 577 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,480 I think you've experienced the same things as me. 578 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,600 I think we're the same. 579 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:18,360 I want you to know about the things I've done. 580 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,840 I've been waiting to meet you. 581 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,440 It's fate all coming together for us, Colin. 582 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:31,880 We've only got to overcome one last hurdle. 583 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,880 I can hardly wait. 584 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,040 See you later, boy. 585 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,560 Fuck. 586 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,120 All right, ladies and gents, let's move out 587 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,000 if everyone knows what they're doing. 588 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,120 Take a piss before you go. See you at location one. 589 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,640 Be hypervigilant, please. Thank you. 590 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,880 You know the signal? 591 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,920 - Sorry, what? - The signal? 592 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,440 If you're in trouble? 593 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,920 Got it. 594 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,640 Are you OK? 595 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,040 Of course. 596 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,240 Update on India 1, please? 597 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,080 - James, still blindside of RV. - Received. 598 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,040 Hold off, we've got Stagg, though. 599 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:47,800 For the benefit of all units, 600 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,240 India 2 is approaching RV from the green aspect. 601 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,360 All units, India 2 approaching. 602 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,520 All eyes on India 2 and India 1. 603 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,600 You must be Colin. 604 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,480 You must be Lizzie. 605 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:07,000 *CREDITS*