1 00:00:00,103 --> 00:00:03,741 'Our imperative is to find out exactly what did happen that night, 2 00:00:03,743 --> 00:00:06,130 'and right now, I have lots of questions.' 3 00:00:06,132 --> 00:00:08,691 If there is anything to find, it's gonna be with the head. 4 00:00:08,693 --> 00:00:11,541 'Fogerty had four other probationers from Hendon with him.' 5 00:00:11,543 --> 00:00:12,621 One of them was you. 6 00:00:12,623 --> 00:00:13,941 Am I a suspect here? 7 00:00:13,943 --> 00:00:16,260 I think we talk Friday about my money. 8 00:00:16,262 --> 00:00:17,541 We think you can help us 9 00:00:17,543 --> 00:00:20,380 - throw some light on the events of an evening 30 years ago. - We're done. 10 00:00:20,382 --> 00:00:23,621 And whoever sent you from upstairs, tell them, "Nice try, but no cigar." 11 00:00:23,623 --> 00:00:25,021 It's me, we need to meet. 12 00:00:25,023 --> 00:00:27,231 - Evening, everybody. - DCI Cassie Stuart. 13 00:00:27,233 --> 00:00:30,021 I do remember Rob on that night, of course, how could you not? 14 00:00:30,023 --> 00:00:31,871 - But not this lad. - Do not tell your brother this. 15 00:00:31,873 --> 00:00:33,180 I have a criminal conviction. 16 00:00:33,182 --> 00:00:34,941 If we lost that money, you could ruin us. 17 00:00:34,943 --> 00:00:36,821 And what would you do for me in return? 18 00:00:36,823 --> 00:00:38,581 I want my half to go to charity. 19 00:00:38,583 --> 00:00:40,510 Given what I know that you'll be doing for me. 20 00:00:40,512 --> 00:00:42,021 I get it, Grandad. I understand. 21 00:00:42,023 --> 00:00:44,981 - Could I just run a few other names past you? Liz Baildon? - No. 22 00:00:44,983 --> 00:00:48,821 - What are you doing? Are you insane? - Tomorrow, 11 o'clock. 23 00:00:48,823 --> 00:00:51,180 Pay for your train ticket in cash. 24 00:00:51,182 --> 00:00:53,981 'I have a witness, who can confirm that Walsh was being chased. 25 00:00:53,983 --> 00:00:56,821 'The chase suggests that his murder was in some way provoked.' 26 00:00:56,823 --> 00:00:59,103 - Jake? - I found the rest of him. 27 00:01:10,103 --> 00:01:13,941 ? All we do is hide away 28 00:01:13,943 --> 00:01:17,581 ? All we do is All we do is hide away 29 00:01:17,583 --> 00:01:20,233 ? All we do is lie and wait 30 00:01:21,583 --> 00:01:25,050 ? All we do is All we do is lie in wait 31 00:01:25,052 --> 00:01:28,941 ? I've been upside down 32 00:01:28,943 --> 00:01:32,621 ? I don't wanna be The right way round 33 00:01:32,623 --> 00:01:35,843 ? Can't find paradise On the ground. ? 34 00:01:42,067 --> 00:01:47,867 *CREDITS* 35 00:01:56,382 --> 00:01:58,873 - 'Hey-ya.' - Hey. 36 00:02:08,512 --> 00:02:11,873 - So, how did it go? - Yeah, good. 37 00:02:13,903 --> 00:02:15,262 And? 38 00:02:17,623 --> 00:02:19,463 I think you need to let it go, Mum. 39 00:02:21,512 --> 00:02:24,023 He knows exactly what he's doing, it's got nothing to do with her. 40 00:02:26,382 --> 00:02:28,583 - Right. - Sorry. 41 00:02:29,973 --> 00:02:31,333 No, fine. 42 00:02:33,103 --> 00:02:35,050 Just don't come running to me in ten years' time 43 00:02:35,052 --> 00:02:38,541 when you've got no money for a deposit on a flat. 44 00:02:38,543 --> 00:02:41,050 Right. Yeah, well... 45 00:02:41,052 --> 00:02:44,262 Now I know. Thanks for that. 46 00:03:09,743 --> 00:03:11,411 I am so sorry. 47 00:03:11,413 --> 00:03:14,300 Don't be daft, it's not your fault. 48 00:03:14,302 --> 00:03:17,413 So, um, welcome home. 49 00:03:19,773 --> 00:03:22,691 Well, that sounds very nice. 50 00:03:22,693 --> 00:03:26,101 Doesn't it? 51 00:03:26,103 --> 00:03:27,971 How are the girls? 52 00:03:27,973 --> 00:03:30,901 Oh, very excited to have their own rooms, as you can hear. 53 00:03:30,903 --> 00:03:33,023 Yeah. 54 00:03:35,823 --> 00:03:37,693 I need more of this. 55 00:03:48,663 --> 00:03:52,823 - What's this? - Year 10 debating prize. I won it. 56 00:03:54,182 --> 00:03:56,581 - When was this? - Yesterday. 57 00:03:56,583 --> 00:04:00,743 Erm, I did tell you I was doing it, but... You had Jack's evening, so... 58 00:04:05,583 --> 00:04:08,262 Oh, mate. Well done. 59 00:04:09,863 --> 00:04:13,023 So well done. That is just brilliant. 60 00:04:14,153 --> 00:04:17,611 And... I'm so sorry if we're not always on it. 61 00:04:17,613 --> 00:04:20,691 You know, he takes up a lot of our time. 62 00:04:20,693 --> 00:04:24,302 But you... You're an absolute star. 63 00:04:25,863 --> 00:04:27,736 Really are. 64 00:04:29,606 --> 00:04:32,293 Wow, he looks almost... mummified. 65 00:04:32,295 --> 00:04:34,574 Well, with the fridge unplugged and open, 66 00:04:34,576 --> 00:04:36,243 that's pretty much what's happened. 67 00:04:36,245 --> 00:04:38,173 Can we be sure it is Matthew? 68 00:04:38,175 --> 00:04:42,654 I'll be sending samples for DNA, obviously, but it is male, 69 00:04:42,656 --> 00:04:46,243 we have laryngeal prominence here, and a quick look at the teeth 70 00:04:46,245 --> 00:04:47,964 certainly suggests the right age group. 71 00:04:47,966 --> 00:04:49,493 And you know what I'm gonna ask next? 72 00:04:49,495 --> 00:04:52,043 The answer is a cautious maybe. 73 00:04:52,045 --> 00:04:54,934 There's a depressed fracture over the temple here, 74 00:04:54,936 --> 00:04:57,734 which certainly has to be a contender for cause of death, 75 00:04:57,736 --> 00:05:00,735 but let me do an X-ray, open him up,and then let's see where we are. 76 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,734 OK. 77 00:05:01,736 --> 00:05:03,527 And did Jay call you yet? 78 00:05:03,552 --> 00:05:05,604 - Jay? -The forensic botanist? 79 00:05:05,606 --> 00:05:08,534 He's had some interesting results on the leaf material on the T-shirt. 80 00:05:08,536 --> 00:05:10,896 - Er, no. - Anyway, he'll call you. 81 00:05:12,016 --> 00:05:14,934 So, Murray's had a quick squint through the mobile phone records. 82 00:05:14,936 --> 00:05:17,454 No indication that any of them are speaking to each other yet. 83 00:05:17,456 --> 00:05:19,324 Well, not on their regular phones, no. 84 00:05:19,326 --> 00:05:21,934 We are also looking into phone mast data. 85 00:05:21,936 --> 00:05:23,896 Cheers, Leanne. We'll speak later. 86 00:05:36,536 --> 00:05:39,214 Hi. DC Fran Lingley. 87 00:05:39,216 --> 00:05:40,324 Trying to trace a man 88 00:05:40,326 --> 00:05:42,293 we believe may have stayed here a few years ago. 89 00:05:42,295 --> 00:05:44,786 Wondered if you had any records on him. Name of Clive Walsh. 90 00:05:46,686 --> 00:05:49,493 Also, I spoke to Hendon first thing. 91 00:05:49,495 --> 00:05:52,856 - Trying to locate that intake's lead trainer for us. - Yeah. 92 00:05:54,096 --> 00:05:58,534 I just think the more of a sense we can get of them as people, 93 00:05:58,536 --> 00:06:01,373 cos if this was a murder, 94 00:06:01,375 --> 00:06:03,014 that is just such an extraordinary thing 95 00:06:03,016 --> 00:06:05,136 for five newbie coppers to have been involved with. 96 00:06:07,045 --> 00:06:08,966 That just doesn't come out of nowhere, does it? 97 00:06:10,495 --> 00:06:14,534 Er, yeah, OK. The last record we've got of Clive, 98 00:06:14,536 --> 00:06:19,173 he's been given a residential place just under two years ago 99 00:06:19,175 --> 00:06:20,536 in a halfway house in Bow. 100 00:06:38,856 --> 00:06:39,936 Fiona? 101 00:06:41,536 --> 00:06:43,216 Lizzie. Hello. 102 00:06:45,786 --> 00:06:49,684 - I have to search you, I'm afraid. - I'm sorry? 103 00:06:49,686 --> 00:06:52,173 I have to check you're not wearing a wire. 104 00:06:52,175 --> 00:06:54,654 Wearing...?! 105 00:06:54,656 --> 00:06:57,014 Jesus, Liz. What do you think of me? 106 00:06:57,016 --> 00:06:58,656 - Or I'll walk away. - Liz! 107 00:06:59,786 --> 00:07:02,686 OK. OK. Oh, my God. 108 00:07:13,016 --> 00:07:14,326 I need to see your phone. 109 00:07:18,856 --> 00:07:22,326 I need to know you're not recording anything. Thank you. 110 00:07:33,295 --> 00:07:39,574 So... I presume they've spoken to you? The police? 111 00:07:39,576 --> 00:07:42,456 - Yes. - But what have you said? 112 00:07:44,326 --> 00:07:47,604 I just told 'em the truth, Fiona. 113 00:07:47,606 --> 00:07:51,064 Like we agreed. I hope you did too. 114 00:07:51,066 --> 00:07:54,966 Oh, fuck! No. Sorry. 115 00:07:56,096 --> 00:07:57,776 It was 30 years ago. 116 00:07:59,045 --> 00:08:00,425 What did you tell them, then? 117 00:08:02,295 --> 00:08:03,886 I told them... 118 00:08:05,245 --> 00:08:07,934 ..I was too drunk to remember anything. 119 00:08:07,936 --> 00:08:11,526 OK. Well, that can work for now. 120 00:08:12,686 --> 00:08:15,654 And if they interview you again, 121 00:08:15,656 --> 00:08:18,495 then the truth can slowly come back to you. 122 00:08:20,326 --> 00:08:22,136 Right. 123 00:08:25,425 --> 00:08:26,576 You remember it? 124 00:08:28,856 --> 00:08:31,064 Erm... 125 00:08:31,066 --> 00:08:35,425 ..after Rob got pulled, you drove the rest of us home... 126 00:08:37,375 --> 00:08:42,096 ..before taking his car back to his, which was near where you lived. 127 00:08:43,295 --> 00:08:46,330 And how did I get from Rob's to my flat? 128 00:08:46,355 --> 00:08:47,760 - You walked? - Good. 129 00:08:52,165 --> 00:08:53,816 And, erm... 130 00:08:56,966 --> 00:08:58,686 ..what if they find out about the pub? 131 00:08:59,656 --> 00:09:01,454 They won't find out about the pub. 132 00:09:01,456 --> 00:09:05,854 They have no connection to us in the pub. No names, anywhere. 133 00:09:05,856 --> 00:09:08,574 They might find someone. That's what they do. You should know. 134 00:09:08,576 --> 00:09:13,096 What if they find out about the pub? They might find out about the rest. 135 00:09:15,686 --> 00:09:18,293 About what you did for me. 136 00:09:18,295 --> 00:09:20,456 They might find out about everything. 137 00:09:23,656 --> 00:09:26,415 I'm sorry. I can't... 138 00:09:28,656 --> 00:09:31,814 I can't just be cold and hard about it like you can. 139 00:09:31,816 --> 00:09:34,456 I'm trying to remain as dispassionate as possible. 140 00:09:35,656 --> 00:09:38,936 I think it's the most useful thing to do right now. 141 00:09:43,245 --> 00:09:44,495 I have to go. 142 00:09:46,375 --> 00:09:48,064 If you need to contact me, 143 00:09:48,066 --> 00:09:51,245 I've set up a Hotmail, Betty two-nine-zero-two. 144 00:10:00,776 --> 00:10:02,216 You're still beautiful, Fi. 145 00:10:04,216 --> 00:10:07,165 I hope your life has been happy. 146 00:10:16,966 --> 00:10:19,493 'So, three weeks before Matthew Walsh goes missing, 147 00:10:19,495 --> 00:10:21,684 'he was cautioned for an incident in a pub.' 148 00:10:21,686 --> 00:10:23,884 A physical altercation with another drinker. 149 00:10:23,886 --> 00:10:26,594 'Now, he wasn't charged, so it can't have been that serious, 150 00:10:26,596 --> 00:10:30,344 'but the reason I mention it is cos of the pub it was in, The Ifield.' 151 00:10:30,346 --> 00:10:32,544 - What, our Ifield? - 'Hendon Lane.' 152 00:10:32,546 --> 00:10:34,954 Now, pretty much everyone who trained at the academy 153 00:10:34,956 --> 00:10:36,313 drank at The Ifield. 154 00:10:36,315 --> 00:10:38,114 'So, I was thinking...' 155 00:10:38,116 --> 00:10:40,674 What are the chances the ruck he had was with a probationer? 156 00:10:40,676 --> 00:10:44,954 - Exactly. - Nice. I like that, Murray. 157 00:10:44,956 --> 00:10:48,346 I like that very much. 158 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:57,175 Ian Henderson? DCI Cassie Stuart, DI Sunny Khan. 159 00:11:02,135 --> 00:11:04,204 'Yeah, I trained all five of them.' 160 00:11:04,206 --> 00:11:06,844 'OK, can we start with Ram, then, please?' 161 00:11:06,846 --> 00:11:08,844 'Ram hasn't changed in 30 years. 162 00:11:08,846 --> 00:11:10,614 'He was a cocky little runt back then, 163 00:11:10,616 --> 00:11:13,894 'and from what I've heard, he's still a cocky little runt now. 164 00:11:13,896 --> 00:11:16,053 'Used to play the race card at every opportunity. 165 00:11:16,055 --> 00:11:17,923 'Still does, from what I hear.' 166 00:11:17,925 --> 00:11:21,774 When you say, "Play the race card", what do you mean? 167 00:11:21,776 --> 00:11:23,974 Objects to being called a Paki on a daily basis? 168 00:11:23,976 --> 00:11:26,284 You come from Wales, you get called Taff, Scotland, Jock, 169 00:11:26,286 --> 00:11:27,414 it's the same difference. 170 00:11:27,416 --> 00:11:29,414 It isn't, but let's maybe not go there right now. 171 00:11:29,416 --> 00:11:33,094 So, aside from being cocky, what was he like as a person? 172 00:11:33,096 --> 00:11:34,334 Was he good copper material? 173 00:11:34,336 --> 00:11:37,204 Here's the deal. I always thought Ram would go right to the top, 174 00:11:37,206 --> 00:11:39,414 - 'or end up in prison.' - 'Prison?' 175 00:11:39,416 --> 00:11:43,774 'Listen, the lad was a smart boy, there's no doubt about that. 176 00:11:43,776 --> 00:11:47,175 'He was ambitious, charismatic, very funny, people liked him.' 177 00:11:48,536 --> 00:11:49,976 'He was also fucking angry.' 178 00:11:51,336 --> 00:11:53,923 He had a massive chip on his shoulder about his colour. 179 00:11:53,925 --> 00:11:56,334 You combine that with his risk-taking and his liking power 180 00:11:56,336 --> 00:11:57,923 a bit much, well, it makes him dangerous. 181 00:11:57,925 --> 00:11:59,253 The proof of the pudding, 182 00:11:59,255 --> 00:12:01,894 you check his disciplinary record over the years, yeah? 183 00:12:01,896 --> 00:12:04,484 I mean, the guy obviously thought he was untouchable. 184 00:12:04,486 --> 00:12:06,286 And worse still, that he had a right to be. 185 00:12:07,696 --> 00:12:09,694 Now, personally, I think if he'd been white, 186 00:12:09,696 --> 00:12:11,173 he'd have been inside by now. 187 00:12:11,175 --> 00:12:14,053 So, you think he could have been capable of breaking the law. 100%. 188 00:12:14,055 --> 00:12:17,844 Did you see anything, anything specific when you worked with him 189 00:12:17,846 --> 00:12:20,286 - that led you to this conclusion? - No. 190 00:12:21,816 --> 00:12:24,096 So, it's just a generalised prejudice, then? 191 00:12:25,206 --> 00:12:27,515 You wanted my opinion, I've given it ya. 192 00:12:27,540 --> 00:12:28,440 OK, moving on. 193 00:12:30,286 --> 00:12:32,003 Dean Barton. 194 00:12:32,005 --> 00:12:35,173 'Deano. Oh, well, Deano was the polar opposite. 195 00:12:35,175 --> 00:12:37,894 'One of the most instinctive coppers I ever trained. 196 00:12:37,896 --> 00:12:41,484 'Fast-thinking, very analytical brain, great team player. 197 00:12:41,486 --> 00:12:43,364 - 'OK, so...' - Hello, mate. 198 00:12:43,366 --> 00:12:45,814 - All right, Ram. - 'Dean told me that he left, ' 199 00:12:45,816 --> 00:12:49,414 because he didn't think he was a team player. 200 00:12:49,416 --> 00:12:50,923 All right, let me rephrase that. 201 00:12:50,925 --> 00:12:53,123 On the job, he worked well alongside the others, yeah? 202 00:12:53,125 --> 00:12:57,364 But, er, yeah, socially, yeah, I'd agree with you. 203 00:12:57,366 --> 00:13:01,564 Yeah, he was a loner. Very private. Secretive, almost. 204 00:13:01,566 --> 00:13:04,173 But honest? You trusted him? 205 00:13:04,175 --> 00:13:06,536 Deano? He was a straight as a die. 206 00:13:10,125 --> 00:13:12,564 So, tell me about Liz Baildon. 207 00:13:12,566 --> 00:13:16,123 'Unsurprisingly, a natural. Yeah, the Prof, we used to call her. 208 00:13:16,125 --> 00:13:19,564 'Great under pressure, very level-headed. 209 00:13:19,566 --> 00:13:21,534 'Oh, she's a great team leader. 210 00:13:21,536 --> 00:13:23,894 'She had a way of motivating people effortlessly.' 211 00:13:23,896 --> 00:13:25,334 And was she out then? 212 00:13:25,336 --> 00:13:27,364 No, the climate was different to today. 213 00:13:27,366 --> 00:13:29,373 It wasn't as easy to admit you were gay. 214 00:13:29,375 --> 00:13:31,534 So, no relationships that you remember? 215 00:13:31,536 --> 00:13:32,534 Well, not in an open sense, 216 00:13:32,536 --> 00:13:34,714 but she was as thick as thieves with one girl. 217 00:13:34,716 --> 00:13:36,434 Who was that? 218 00:13:36,436 --> 00:13:38,224 - 'Your fourth name.' - 'Fiona Grayson?' 219 00:13:38,226 --> 00:13:40,504 'Yeah, or the Wet Blanket, as we used to call her. 220 00:13:40,506 --> 00:13:42,554 'Literally no idea what she was doing there. 221 00:13:42,556 --> 00:13:44,504 'I mean, she was a perfectly capable lady, 222 00:13:44,506 --> 00:13:46,434 'but she clearly hated the whole set-up' 223 00:13:46,436 --> 00:13:48,943 and I wasn't surprised when I heard she'd quit. 224 00:13:48,945 --> 00:13:51,864 OK, and finally, Rob Fogerty. 225 00:13:51,866 --> 00:13:54,504 Yeah, I liked Rob. Nice guy. 226 00:13:54,506 --> 00:13:56,943 A little sorry for him when I heard he got chucked off, but... 227 00:13:56,945 --> 00:13:59,273 well, it didn't surprise me. He's not the sharpest knife. 228 00:13:59,275 --> 00:14:02,784 And he was a big guy. Was there any violence in him? No, the opposite. 229 00:14:02,786 --> 00:14:05,304 I really had to push him when we did restraint training. 230 00:14:05,306 --> 00:14:07,114 No, there was nothing violent in Rob. 231 00:14:07,116 --> 00:14:08,434 No, he's a real gentle giant. 232 00:14:08,436 --> 00:14:10,634 Can you think of anything else connected to any of them 233 00:14:10,636 --> 00:14:11,714 that sticks in your mind? 234 00:14:11,716 --> 00:14:13,356 Anything you haven't already touched on? 235 00:14:15,025 --> 00:14:17,224 You know, the five of them, they formed a little gang. 236 00:14:17,226 --> 00:14:18,694 I was never quite sure what it was. 237 00:14:18,696 --> 00:14:21,053 I mean, they all came from very different backgrounds, 238 00:14:21,055 --> 00:14:23,414 they have very different personalities, but... 239 00:14:23,416 --> 00:14:24,925 there was some sort of connection. 240 00:14:26,206 --> 00:14:28,123 Then, on the day of the passing-out parade, 241 00:14:28,125 --> 00:14:29,734 I think I saw what it was. 242 00:14:29,736 --> 00:14:33,614 - What? - Not one of them had a guest. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Right? 243 00:14:33,616 --> 00:14:35,364 I mean, everyone has guests, haven't they? 244 00:14:35,366 --> 00:14:39,255 Mums, dads, siblings, friends, someone, but no... no, not them. 245 00:14:41,456 --> 00:14:43,955 And I think that's what their connection was. 246 00:14:45,935 --> 00:14:47,185 For whatever reason... 247 00:14:49,466 --> 00:14:50,776 ..they were out on their own. 248 00:14:52,906 --> 00:14:55,104 Are you gonna be able to find stuff out, do you think? 249 00:14:55,106 --> 00:14:58,744 - If it moves forward, keep us ahead of the game? - I'll do what I can. 250 00:14:58,746 --> 00:15:00,933 But obviously, if they start looking at us closely, 251 00:15:00,935 --> 00:15:02,774 they'll be looking at me closely, so... 252 00:15:02,776 --> 00:15:05,895 Bottom line, we stick to the truth, you know. We'll be fine. 253 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:06,959 We hope. 254 00:15:09,216 --> 00:15:10,496 So, I've got to go, fella. 255 00:15:12,546 --> 00:15:14,704 That business the other day, all went all right? 256 00:15:14,706 --> 00:15:16,654 Yeah. Yeah, it was fine. 257 00:15:16,656 --> 00:15:19,393 Thanks for helping out at short notice. 258 00:15:19,418 --> 00:15:20,624 Last time, yeah. 259 00:15:20,626 --> 00:15:23,986 - I've moved on now. - Absolutely, me too. It's a one-off. 260 00:15:26,346 --> 00:15:28,466 - You look after yourself, buddy. - Yeah, and you. 261 00:15:51,626 --> 00:15:53,496 Hello, is it Clive? 262 00:15:53,521 --> 00:15:55,464 - Yes. - Hello, Clive. 263 00:15:55,466 --> 00:15:57,544 My name is DC Fran Lingley, 264 00:15:57,546 --> 00:16:01,106 and I have some news about your brother, Matthew. 265 00:16:02,906 --> 00:16:04,214 Sweet cicely? 266 00:16:04,216 --> 00:16:06,794 'Yes, so it's native to the north, which means' 267 00:16:06,796 --> 00:16:09,514 you're very unlikely to find it growing wild down here. 268 00:16:09,516 --> 00:16:12,904 - OK. - 'So, within the rough area he was last seen in, 269 00:16:12,906 --> 00:16:14,214 'I'd be looking for' 270 00:16:14,216 --> 00:16:15,984 vegetable plots in gardens, or, 271 00:16:15,986 --> 00:16:19,214 and for me this is the most likely scenario, an allotment. 272 00:16:19,216 --> 00:16:21,744 Right. Thank you. 273 00:16:21,746 --> 00:16:24,744 - And he is happy to come here? - 'Yes, he is.' OK. 274 00:16:24,746 --> 00:16:27,466 - 'We're on our way back. Be there in-about 20.' - OK, see you then. 275 00:16:30,626 --> 00:16:32,746 OK, Clive. Shall we get going? 276 00:16:36,065 --> 00:16:39,774 - Fran's found the brother. - Whose brother? Matthew Walsh's. 277 00:16:39,776 --> 00:16:42,774 - Turns out he was with Matthew the night he disappeared. - No! 278 00:16:42,776 --> 00:16:44,935 He was having a pee in the bushes when the car pulled up. 279 00:16:46,055 --> 00:16:48,346 He saw everything. 280 00:16:52,935 --> 00:16:57,133 Yeah. I remember the case, because of his colour. 281 00:16:57,135 --> 00:16:58,824 Whose colour? 282 00:16:58,826 --> 00:17:00,854 The probationer involved in the altercation. 283 00:17:00,856 --> 00:17:05,133 So, you receive details that Walsh made a pass at a woman... 284 00:17:05,135 --> 00:17:06,494 Who was also a probie, I think. 285 00:17:06,496 --> 00:17:08,774 ..and she blanked him, and he got a bit lairy, 286 00:17:08,776 --> 00:17:11,024 and then a lad she was having a drink with intervened, 287 00:17:11,026 --> 00:17:12,464 and that's when it all kicked off? 288 00:17:12,466 --> 00:17:15,744 After Walsh made racially abusive remarks, I think. 289 00:17:15,746 --> 00:17:17,744 And I'm assuming it was just a bit of handbags, 290 00:17:17,746 --> 00:17:19,933 - because Walsh only got cautioned? - No, not at all. 291 00:17:19,935 --> 00:17:23,494 - Walsh actually gave the lad a bit of a kicking. - So... 292 00:17:23,496 --> 00:17:26,776 So, he was let off, because my sergeant wanted it buried. 293 00:17:28,746 --> 00:17:31,484 If Walsh had been charged, there would have been a court case, 294 00:17:31,486 --> 00:17:33,776 and the probationer would have got in trouble and... 295 00:17:35,026 --> 00:17:37,544 Obviously, we'd just started recruiting ethnic minorities, 296 00:17:37,546 --> 00:17:39,414 so it wouldn't have played out well for anyone. 297 00:17:39,416 --> 00:17:42,933 So, the fact there's no other names in this report, apart from Walsh's, 298 00:17:42,935 --> 00:17:44,053 that was deliberate? 299 00:17:44,055 --> 00:17:46,263 I didn't write this report, my sergeant did, 300 00:17:46,265 --> 00:17:48,466 and he's been dead ten years, but, yeah. 301 00:17:49,906 --> 00:17:54,414 I'm guessing he was protecting the witnesses, 302 00:17:54,416 --> 00:17:58,135 the girl, and very particularly, the Asian lad. 303 00:18:00,496 --> 00:18:02,263 And as we were walking across Napley Green, 304 00:18:02,265 --> 00:18:05,466 I decided to duck into the bush for a pee. 305 00:18:06,626 --> 00:18:10,904 Just as I did, I heard a shout, "Oi! Walshy boy!" 306 00:18:10,906 --> 00:18:16,053 I turned, and I saw this car about 50 yards away, 307 00:18:16,055 --> 00:18:18,414 with a bloke getting out the front passenger seat, 308 00:18:18,416 --> 00:18:20,053 and he was just running at Matty. 309 00:18:20,055 --> 00:18:23,624 And do you remember what he looked like? Asian guy. 310 00:18:23,626 --> 00:18:24,854 And what did your brother do? 311 00:18:24,856 --> 00:18:27,854 Well, he looked pretty useful and angry, 312 00:18:27,856 --> 00:18:31,854 and there was others in the car, so he just ran. 313 00:18:31,856 --> 00:18:36,104 And I had just a second or two to decide, you know, 314 00:18:36,106 --> 00:18:40,414 show him that there was two of us, make him think twice, maybe? 315 00:18:40,416 --> 00:18:45,385 I've never had a fight in my life, so I ducked down... 316 00:18:47,626 --> 00:18:48,746 ..and I hid. 317 00:18:51,466 --> 00:18:53,904 And then, the driver got out. 318 00:18:53,906 --> 00:18:58,466 Tall fella, ran off in the direction of the others. 319 00:18:59,986 --> 00:19:02,183 And then about 30 seconds later, the third man. 320 00:19:02,185 --> 00:19:04,296 I could still see two others in the back seats. 321 00:19:05,546 --> 00:19:08,414 After about five minutes, they got out as well 322 00:19:08,416 --> 00:19:12,416 and they were all quickly off in the direction the others had gone. 323 00:19:16,055 --> 00:19:19,624 But these two were women. 324 00:19:19,626 --> 00:19:21,904 And that was it. 325 00:19:21,906 --> 00:19:26,546 I never saw them, or my brother, again. 326 00:19:28,385 --> 00:19:32,104 Why did you never say anything about this at the time? 327 00:19:32,106 --> 00:19:35,774 I had a job. In Cyprus, in a club. 328 00:19:35,776 --> 00:19:37,774 I had to fly out the next day to start, 329 00:19:37,776 --> 00:19:40,133 but this was before mobile phones, 330 00:19:40,135 --> 00:19:43,744 so I didn't even hear that he was missing for weeks, 331 00:19:43,746 --> 00:19:48,544 and when I did get back, early June, pretty much everyone just reckoned 332 00:19:48,546 --> 00:19:52,294 he was lying low, because of the warrants that was out for him. 333 00:19:52,296 --> 00:19:55,776 Everyone reckoned he'd just turn up one day. 334 00:19:59,496 --> 00:20:02,546 Except me, because in my gut... 335 00:20:04,135 --> 00:20:07,026 ..I think I knew that he died that night. 336 00:20:11,696 --> 00:20:15,053 And the reason I never said anything, 337 00:20:15,055 --> 00:20:19,333 that's because I did not want anyone to know 338 00:20:19,335 --> 00:20:23,586 what a snivelling gutless coward I was. 339 00:20:27,116 --> 00:20:28,346 Thank you. 340 00:20:35,556 --> 00:20:38,784 OK. So, we now know for sure that they all got out. 341 00:20:38,786 --> 00:20:40,754 - And in pursuit of the victim. - Exactly. 342 00:20:40,756 --> 00:20:42,504 Which means, as far as I'm concerned, 343 00:20:42,506 --> 00:20:45,586 they're definitely all in the frame now. 344 00:20:54,034 --> 00:20:56,671 So here is an allotment, 345 00:20:56,673 --> 00:21:00,982 and if we draw a line up from where the car stopped... 346 00:21:00,984 --> 00:21:05,541 up here... up here... 347 00:21:05,543 --> 00:21:09,782 and ending somewhere in the allotment, 348 00:21:09,784 --> 00:21:12,622 it fits very well with the various witness statement sightings 349 00:21:12,624 --> 00:21:14,832 at the chase. And if we can identify where exactly 350 00:21:14,834 --> 00:21:16,832 on the allotment this plant might've grown, 351 00:21:16,834 --> 00:21:19,032 - we might find his actual place of death. - Mm. 352 00:21:19,034 --> 00:21:20,262 I mean, my guess is... 353 00:21:20,264 --> 00:21:23,502 Look, it would had to have been near the road to pull the car up to. 354 00:21:23,504 --> 00:21:25,541 Maybe we can even get some boards up. 355 00:21:25,543 --> 00:21:28,262 - Might trigger some more memories. - Yeah, absolutely. 356 00:21:28,264 --> 00:21:30,262 OK, very good. Thank you. Caz? 357 00:21:30,264 --> 00:21:32,902 The only concrete thing I have is on Fiona Grayson. 358 00:21:32,904 --> 00:21:35,561 A 1993 dangerous driving conviction. 359 00:21:35,563 --> 00:21:37,361 - Trying to get the original files. - OK. 360 00:21:37,363 --> 00:21:40,341 But nothing on Elizabeth Baildon and nothing on... 361 00:21:40,343 --> 00:21:43,032 well, apart from his internal disciplinary record, 362 00:21:43,034 --> 00:21:44,982 - on Ramjeet Sidhu. - Which we're looking into. 363 00:21:44,984 --> 00:21:47,182 Yep. And Dean Barton, no criminal record. 364 00:21:47,184 --> 00:21:50,182 Although I am having trouble finding a couple of basic documents. 365 00:21:50,184 --> 00:21:51,902 I can't find his birth certificate 366 00:21:51,904 --> 00:21:54,591 - and I can't find him on the census pre '91. - OK. 367 00:21:54,593 --> 00:21:57,032 And something else just to feed in as background - 368 00:21:57,034 --> 00:22:01,062 all five of them had no guests at their passing-out parade. 369 00:22:01,064 --> 00:22:04,182 No family, no friends. No nothing. 370 00:22:04,184 --> 00:22:07,112 Yeah. It's one to mull on, maybe. 371 00:22:07,114 --> 00:22:10,262 And definitely a picture starting to emerge of Ram Sidhu 372 00:22:10,264 --> 00:22:12,671 being a person who pushed the envelope, even back then. 373 00:22:12,673 --> 00:22:15,591 We know he was probably first out the car, 374 00:22:15,593 --> 00:22:19,832 so was probably the most likely to catch up with Matthew first, 375 00:22:19,834 --> 00:22:21,954 and then, this afternoon... 376 00:22:23,064 --> 00:22:24,671 Murray slightly struck gold. 377 00:22:24,673 --> 00:22:27,262 So, three weeks before Matthew disappeared, 378 00:22:27,264 --> 00:22:30,982 we've got pretty good evidence to suggest that in a pub in Hendon, 379 00:22:30,984 --> 00:22:33,671 he committed an ABH on Ram Sidhu. 380 00:22:33,673 --> 00:22:35,471 - No. - The fight was over a girl. 381 00:22:35,473 --> 00:22:38,032 No names in the arrest sheet, but we know our suspects were a gang 382 00:22:38,034 --> 00:22:41,461 so there's a fair chance they were all drinking together that night 383 00:22:41,463 --> 00:22:43,981 and the girl was even Fiona Grayson or Liz Baildon. 384 00:22:43,983 --> 00:22:46,620 For various reasons, Walsh only got a caution 385 00:22:46,622 --> 00:22:51,290 and Murray's trying to track down Susie Montgomery, the landlady. 386 00:22:51,292 --> 00:22:53,490 But I think, alongside opportunity, 387 00:22:53,492 --> 00:22:57,343 fairly reasonable now to suggest we also have a possible motive. 388 00:22:58,733 --> 00:23:03,161 Albeit one that for whatever reason seems to have escalated 389 00:23:03,163 --> 00:23:05,683 from a reciprocal slap to something... 390 00:23:06,883 --> 00:23:10,320 ..far more violent and involving four other people. 391 00:23:10,322 --> 00:23:13,121 So, I think we pull Sidhu in now, confront him with this 392 00:23:13,123 --> 00:23:15,683 and see what we get. Thank you, guys. 393 00:23:29,683 --> 00:23:31,881 You don't think we should wait till Murray finds out 394 00:23:31,883 --> 00:23:34,320 if Montgomery's still around? I mean, if she can ID Sidhu 395 00:23:34,322 --> 00:23:36,371 - or any one of the women... - What are the chances? 396 00:23:36,373 --> 00:23:39,400 I mean, I was drinking in The Ifield just a few months later, 397 00:23:39,402 --> 00:23:41,931 and she was about 500 years old. 398 00:23:41,933 --> 00:23:45,933 So, no. Let's get him in now, please. 399 00:23:47,652 --> 00:23:48,652 Sure. 400 00:24:21,013 --> 00:24:22,371 - Hiya. - Hi. 401 00:24:22,373 --> 00:24:24,320 This is a nice surprise. Were you up anyway...? 402 00:24:24,322 --> 00:24:26,011 No, no, here on a whim. 403 00:24:26,013 --> 00:24:28,801 I thought, if you had half an hour, maybe we could just... 404 00:24:28,803 --> 00:24:31,091 Ah, love, no, I haven't got half an hour. 405 00:24:31,093 --> 00:24:32,731 OK, ten minutes? 406 00:24:32,733 --> 00:24:34,522 How about five? 407 00:24:36,373 --> 00:24:39,601 I don't generally take lunch. If you'd booked me last week or... 408 00:24:39,603 --> 00:24:41,931 - "Booked you"? Well, OK. - Sorry, I don't mean that like... 409 00:24:41,933 --> 00:24:43,881 No, no, no, it doesn't matter, it's fine. 410 00:24:43,883 --> 00:24:45,570 OK, I'll be quick, then. 411 00:24:45,572 --> 00:24:47,761 So, erm, I went into all the agencies near mine, 412 00:24:47,763 --> 00:24:49,731 got a list of all the properties within our range - 413 00:24:49,733 --> 00:24:51,681 that way we can get an idea of what we're after, 414 00:24:51,683 --> 00:24:55,121 so, why don't you take a look and we can discuss later? 415 00:24:55,123 --> 00:24:56,931 Ah... 416 00:24:56,933 --> 00:25:01,371 Oh, perfect. Thank you so much for doing that. 417 00:25:01,373 --> 00:25:03,211 Yeah, yeah, no problem. 418 00:25:03,213 --> 00:25:05,400 So have you spoken to your dad again? 419 00:25:05,402 --> 00:25:07,851 Er, not since Eddie took him out, no. 420 00:25:07,853 --> 00:25:10,491 - I spoke to a lawyer, though. - A lawyer? 421 00:25:10,493 --> 00:25:12,603 Yeah. Only from work, mate of a mate. 422 00:25:14,213 --> 00:25:17,322 I just wanted the top line on our rights. Cass... 423 00:25:18,572 --> 00:25:20,761 I mean, listen, it's your life, but... 424 00:25:20,763 --> 00:25:22,601 I don't think a lawyer is the way to go. 425 00:25:22,603 --> 00:25:24,163 Yeah, I know, I know, I just... 426 00:25:27,402 --> 00:25:30,881 Oh, f... fuck, I can't lose this anger, John. 427 00:25:30,883 --> 00:25:32,243 I wish I could, but... 428 00:25:33,522 --> 00:25:37,731 On top of everything else, that woman, she's just... she... 429 00:25:37,733 --> 00:25:40,490 Yeah, I know. I get that. I do, but... 430 00:25:40,492 --> 00:25:43,701 Please don't tell either of them you've spoken to a lawyer, 431 00:25:43,703 --> 00:25:45,823 - because that'll just... - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. 432 00:25:48,372 --> 00:25:49,823 Ah, I've got to go. 433 00:25:51,013 --> 00:25:55,370 I'll look at these later. And, erm... it's a nice idea. 434 00:25:55,372 --> 00:25:56,931 And next week, hopefully I'll be freer, 435 00:25:56,933 --> 00:25:58,261 and then let's do it properly. 436 00:25:58,263 --> 00:26:00,651 - Yeah, I'll book you in - Ha. Piss off. 437 00:26:08,053 --> 00:26:09,213 Hey. 438 00:26:15,292 --> 00:26:18,290 Been trying to get hold of you. Claire had no idea where you were. 439 00:26:18,292 --> 00:26:19,821 Well, I was at the meeting, why? 440 00:26:19,823 --> 00:26:23,181 - Jack's temperature's gone up to 101. - Oh, no. 441 00:26:23,183 --> 00:26:25,901 Do you think it's another infection? I dunno. 442 00:26:25,903 --> 00:26:29,540 But his chest sounds dreadful, so... so I've called the GP. 443 00:26:29,542 --> 00:26:31,903 All right, I'll... I'll go and see him. 444 00:26:33,622 --> 00:26:36,183 You never told me the police had interviewed you. 445 00:26:42,903 --> 00:26:45,181 Yeah, Claire made some joke about you being banged up 446 00:26:45,183 --> 00:26:47,343 when I asked her where you were. 447 00:26:48,703 --> 00:26:51,341 Apparently, a detective came to the office the other day? 448 00:26:51,343 --> 00:26:53,053 Yeah, I didn't wanna worry you. 449 00:26:54,103 --> 00:26:55,183 What was it about? 450 00:27:00,183 --> 00:27:01,372 Not that. 451 00:27:02,573 --> 00:27:04,343 - No? - No. 452 00:27:05,933 --> 00:27:09,133 There's nothing that's ever gonna be able to connect us to that now. 453 00:27:11,573 --> 00:27:13,183 Promise. 454 00:27:15,292 --> 00:27:18,931 - So what was it about? - Oh, just some weird... 455 00:27:18,933 --> 00:27:21,931 historical case, some 30-year-old murder. 456 00:27:21,933 --> 00:27:24,181 They thought I might've known one of the suspects. 457 00:27:24,183 --> 00:27:26,461 Jesus. Did you? 458 00:27:26,463 --> 00:27:27,731 No, of course not. 459 00:27:27,733 --> 00:27:31,183 The interview lasted five minutes, it's fine. 460 00:27:32,292 --> 00:27:34,013 I'm gonna go up and see the lad. 461 00:27:44,903 --> 00:27:46,981 30th March 1990. 462 00:27:46,983 --> 00:27:50,131 - The day of your passing-out parade. You remember it? - Of course. 463 00:27:50,133 --> 00:27:52,292 - Good day? - Lovely. 464 00:27:53,463 --> 00:27:56,101 - Proud of your achievement? - Very. 465 00:27:56,103 --> 00:27:59,370 So why no family there? To share your day with you. 466 00:28:01,103 --> 00:28:04,461 Er, because I was supposed to be a doctor or a lawyer or... 467 00:28:04,463 --> 00:28:06,620 go into the family business, apparently. 468 00:28:06,622 --> 00:28:07,931 And how did that make you feel, 469 00:28:07,933 --> 00:28:10,211 that no-one came to celebrate with you? 470 00:28:10,213 --> 00:28:14,620 Sad, but I knew they'd come round, which they did, I think. 471 00:28:14,622 --> 00:28:16,133 They're very proud of me now. 472 00:28:17,773 --> 00:28:21,341 - You went to a party that night. - Yeah. 473 00:28:21,343 --> 00:28:25,131 - Erm, do you remember who you went with? - No. 474 00:28:25,133 --> 00:28:29,620 - Or what time you left? - 30 years later? No, sorry. 475 00:28:29,622 --> 00:28:32,103 OK. Erm, do you remember who you left with? 476 00:28:33,183 --> 00:28:36,771 - A couple of them, yeah. - OK, who was that? 477 00:28:36,773 --> 00:28:40,542 - Rob and Liz... Fogerty and Baildon. - OK. 478 00:28:42,983 --> 00:28:44,540 Well, completely understandably, 479 00:28:44,542 --> 00:28:48,101 you couldn't remember who you went with, but, er... 480 00:28:48,103 --> 00:28:49,771 quickly remembered who you left with. 481 00:28:49,773 --> 00:28:52,821 Is there a reason that those names have stuck in your mind? 482 00:28:52,823 --> 00:28:55,211 Because of something that happened that night. 483 00:28:55,213 --> 00:28:57,181 What was that? 484 00:28:57,183 --> 00:28:59,051 Er, so... 485 00:28:59,053 --> 00:29:03,261 Rob, who was our designated driver, 486 00:29:03,263 --> 00:29:04,651 unbeknownst to any of us, 487 00:29:04,653 --> 00:29:07,101 had actually had a few drinks that night. 488 00:29:07,103 --> 00:29:09,461 Dumb luck on the way back into town, he got pulled over 489 00:29:09,463 --> 00:29:11,290 by the traffic cop, he was breathalysed, 490 00:29:11,292 --> 00:29:14,013 was over the limit and... he was nicked. 491 00:29:15,133 --> 00:29:16,981 Ended his career before it even started. 492 00:29:16,983 --> 00:29:18,651 So he got nicked, he got taken away, 493 00:29:18,653 --> 00:29:21,693 - how did you then get home after that? - I think... 494 00:29:23,013 --> 00:29:25,492 ..Lizzie was allowed to drive Rob's car, I think... 495 00:29:26,903 --> 00:29:29,331 ..she dropped us off in town first 496 00:29:29,333 --> 00:29:31,821 and then dropped Rob's car at his house. 497 00:29:31,823 --> 00:29:35,011 And, erm... you still see Liz Baildon? 498 00:29:35,013 --> 00:29:37,651 No. I mean, at the odd police event, but no more than that. 499 00:29:37,653 --> 00:29:40,933 - Have you discussed this with her over the past few days? - No. 500 00:29:42,622 --> 00:29:47,013 OK. Because your recollections are... pretty much identical. 501 00:29:48,292 --> 00:29:51,331 Mm, yeah. It's what happened, so... 502 00:29:51,333 --> 00:29:53,620 And you don't remember any of the people in the car? 503 00:29:53,622 --> 00:29:55,211 No. 504 00:29:55,213 --> 00:29:57,933 Dean Barton? Fiona Grayson? 505 00:29:59,333 --> 00:30:00,903 Mm... I'm sorry. 506 00:30:02,103 --> 00:30:04,490 And when the car was stopped by the police officer, 507 00:30:04,492 --> 00:30:07,901 was that the first time that journey that it had stopped? 508 00:30:07,903 --> 00:30:10,013 - Yeah. - OK. 509 00:30:12,542 --> 00:30:15,691 So, I'm gonna show you a photo of a man now. 510 00:30:15,693 --> 00:30:19,981 The victim in this investigation, in fact. Name of Matthew Walsh. 511 00:30:19,983 --> 00:30:22,651 And I'd just like to know if his face 512 00:30:22,653 --> 00:30:24,103 is in any way familiar to you. 513 00:30:28,213 --> 00:30:29,213 No. 514 00:30:31,013 --> 00:30:32,292 Well, have a good look. 515 00:30:35,983 --> 00:30:37,103 No. 516 00:30:38,263 --> 00:30:40,211 OK. 517 00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:44,131 I ask because we have a witness who says he saw a car 518 00:30:44,133 --> 00:30:47,461 with five people in it, one unusually tall man, 519 00:30:47,463 --> 00:30:50,691 two women and an Asian man pull up near a patch of ground 520 00:30:50,693 --> 00:30:52,540 called Napley Green. 521 00:30:52,542 --> 00:30:54,410 Now, this is about a mile before 522 00:30:54,412 --> 00:30:57,131 where you were pulled over by the traffic cop. 523 00:30:57,133 --> 00:30:59,490 And the witness says that one of the men, 524 00:30:59,492 --> 00:31:03,791 that matches your description, got out, calling, "Oi, Walshy boy!" 525 00:31:03,793 --> 00:31:06,921 - and then chased after the victim. - Ss... 526 00:31:06,923 --> 00:31:08,711 So, is your witness white? 527 00:31:08,713 --> 00:31:10,310 What does that have to do with anything? 528 00:31:10,312 --> 00:31:12,671 OK, I'm not being funny or anything, but to them, 529 00:31:12,673 --> 00:31:14,071 we do all slightly look the same. 530 00:31:14,073 --> 00:31:16,591 So you don't recognise this event? 531 00:31:16,593 --> 00:31:20,281 You don't recognise the name, Matthew Walsh, or indeed his face? 532 00:31:20,283 --> 00:31:21,991 In fact, none of this rings any bells? 533 00:31:21,993 --> 00:31:23,512 - No, I'm sorry. - OK. 534 00:31:24,642 --> 00:31:28,201 So, I think that you know perfectly well who Matthew Walsh is, 535 00:31:28,203 --> 00:31:29,281 and I think you know him 536 00:31:29,283 --> 00:31:31,481 because only three weeks before this incident, 537 00:31:31,483 --> 00:31:33,430 I think you had a racially instigated fight with him 538 00:31:33,432 --> 00:31:36,481 - in a pub in Hendon. - What evidence have you got for this allegation? 539 00:31:36,483 --> 00:31:38,871 - This was in The Ifield. - Yeah. What evidence? 540 00:31:38,873 --> 00:31:40,711 Did you used to drink in there? 541 00:31:40,713 --> 00:31:43,673 Listen... 542 00:31:44,873 --> 00:31:48,671 ..I don't know where you're coming from with all this, but... 543 00:31:48,673 --> 00:31:50,711 I'll give you the benefit of the doubt 544 00:31:50,713 --> 00:31:53,281 and assume it's not from the same place as 90% of the crap 545 00:31:53,283 --> 00:31:55,483 I have to deal with comes from... but... 546 00:31:58,673 --> 00:31:59,953 ..you have nothing here. 547 00:32:01,033 --> 00:32:05,121 I mean, a witness comes out of the woodwork 30 years after the event 548 00:32:05,123 --> 00:32:07,310 and says he saw an Asian guy get out of a car, 549 00:32:07,312 --> 00:32:09,560 and then a random Paki in a pub? 550 00:32:09,562 --> 00:32:11,033 Are you serious? 551 00:32:14,673 --> 00:32:16,993 Sorry, guys, but I think we're done here. 552 00:32:28,673 --> 00:32:29,991 Don't, just... 553 00:32:29,993 --> 00:32:32,430 I just think we need to slow down, boss. 554 00:32:32,432 --> 00:32:34,312 I just want it over. 555 00:32:35,673 --> 00:32:37,123 I shouldn't even be here. 556 00:32:55,873 --> 00:32:59,281 So I heard her, the other day. 557 00:32:59,283 --> 00:33:01,673 The police officer with you. 558 00:33:02,923 --> 00:33:04,432 - I'm sorry? - Me too. 559 00:33:05,632 --> 00:33:07,512 That I have to resort to this. 560 00:33:09,123 --> 00:33:10,993 You should've been better, Elizabeth. 561 00:33:13,233 --> 00:33:15,073 I'm sorry, Eugenia. 562 00:33:16,673 --> 00:33:19,711 I have no idea what you're talking about. 563 00:33:19,713 --> 00:33:22,991 I'm not a greedy person. I don't want luxuries. 564 00:33:22,993 --> 00:33:26,481 But I do want to be able to heat our flat, 565 00:33:26,483 --> 00:33:30,031 to feed my child properly, and once in a while, 566 00:33:30,033 --> 00:33:33,793 very rarely, buy her a pretty dress from Primark. 567 00:33:35,283 --> 00:33:38,921 So, really, not a lot. And a fraction of what you have. 568 00:33:38,923 --> 00:33:41,310 But still, apparently, too much for you. 569 00:33:41,312 --> 00:33:44,673 - No, I didn't say that. - £287. 570 00:33:45,762 --> 00:33:49,713 My overdue gas bill. And £9 an hour. 571 00:33:52,153 --> 00:33:55,401 That's what I'm blackmailing you for. 572 00:33:55,403 --> 00:33:57,351 Which sounds pathetic. 573 00:33:57,353 --> 00:33:58,632 Even to me. 574 00:33:59,713 --> 00:34:02,271 But if you don't give me this, I will tell the police 575 00:34:02,273 --> 00:34:03,593 what your mother told me. 576 00:34:05,273 --> 00:34:06,843 Which I don't think you want. 577 00:34:08,993 --> 00:34:10,023 So... 578 00:34:11,203 --> 00:34:13,630 ..have a think and then maybe... 579 00:34:13,632 --> 00:34:17,403 No, I don't have to have a think. You can have it. 580 00:34:34,762 --> 00:34:35,953 Hey! 581 00:34:43,762 --> 00:34:45,630 I just had a call from my brother. 582 00:34:45,632 --> 00:34:48,591 He said he could not, in all conscience, 583 00:34:48,593 --> 00:34:51,351 keep what you told him from me. 584 00:34:51,353 --> 00:34:56,231 And so, I was just wondering... if you had a conscience. 585 00:34:56,233 --> 00:34:59,871 I was just wondering if you felt you could maybe give your partner 586 00:34:59,873 --> 00:35:02,483 a bit of a heads up as to what the fuck was going on. 587 00:35:17,432 --> 00:35:19,713 27 years ago... 588 00:35:23,913 --> 00:35:25,233 ..I killed a child. 589 00:35:29,827 --> 00:35:34,188 They said I was speeding. Doing 42 in a 30-mile area. 590 00:35:35,418 --> 00:35:38,138 And I lost control going round a corner. 591 00:35:39,628 --> 00:35:42,218 I actually think she was on the wrong side of the road. 592 00:35:43,697 --> 00:35:46,577 Either way... we collided. 593 00:35:47,728 --> 00:35:50,216 And there was a toddler in the back. 594 00:35:50,218 --> 00:35:51,498 In a car seat. 595 00:35:52,657 --> 00:35:54,298 It wasn't properly fastened. 596 00:35:55,938 --> 00:35:57,088 And he died. 597 00:35:58,657 --> 00:35:59,858 The little boy. 598 00:36:01,188 --> 00:36:06,018 And I received a conviction for death by dangerous driving. 599 00:36:09,378 --> 00:36:13,575 How... how could you never have told me this? 600 00:36:13,577 --> 00:36:16,058 I know, I'm so, so, so sorry. 601 00:36:18,978 --> 00:36:22,298 - Was it your fault? - I don't think so. 602 00:36:24,298 --> 00:36:26,498 But I'm not sure I'll ever really know. 603 00:36:29,418 --> 00:36:31,548 I'm just stunned, Fi, that you... 604 00:36:32,728 --> 00:36:38,336 ..felt you could keep something so significant from me for 17 years, 605 00:36:38,338 --> 00:36:40,266 how do you do that? 606 00:36:40,268 --> 00:36:43,188 How do you do that and stay sane? I mean... 607 00:36:45,777 --> 00:36:47,697 ..is there anything else you need to tell me? 608 00:36:50,188 --> 00:36:51,907 No. That's it. 609 00:36:58,088 --> 00:37:01,498 If we lose our deposit... I swear, Fiona... 610 00:37:09,468 --> 00:37:12,086 I mean, what do people want the police to be? 611 00:37:12,088 --> 00:37:13,548 Mm? 612 00:37:14,548 --> 00:37:16,726 Do they want us to be like them, 613 00:37:16,728 --> 00:37:19,936 just normal human beings who will screw up, 614 00:37:19,938 --> 00:37:23,186 who will make mistakes? We all accept that. 615 00:37:23,188 --> 00:37:26,466 We all say sorry and move on, and that's the deal. 616 00:37:28,018 --> 00:37:30,575 Or do they want to believe that we're not the same, 617 00:37:30,577 --> 00:37:33,825 that we've got some kind of special powers that they don't? 618 00:37:33,827 --> 00:37:36,468 Cos, you know, that makes them feel safer in their beds. 619 00:37:39,577 --> 00:37:41,058 What do they want? 620 00:37:42,368 --> 00:37:45,366 Cos it's got to be one or the other. It can't be both. 621 00:37:45,368 --> 00:37:47,546 Mate, I can't even work the Apple remote, so... 622 00:37:58,657 --> 00:38:00,018 Hey, what's the matter? 623 00:38:01,548 --> 00:38:02,697 Hey, hey, hey. 624 00:38:05,498 --> 00:38:06,728 What's wrong, babe? 625 00:38:08,268 --> 00:38:09,907 Do you ever get angry, Dean? 626 00:38:11,577 --> 00:38:13,777 - At Jack. - At Jack? 627 00:38:15,978 --> 00:38:18,938 Yeah, and I don't just mean for being naughty, I mean for... 628 00:38:21,108 --> 00:38:22,468 ..for being him. 629 00:38:24,498 --> 00:38:26,498 Erm, no. No. 630 00:38:30,418 --> 00:38:31,618 I do. 631 00:38:32,978 --> 00:38:35,188 Sometimes, not often, like... 632 00:38:37,058 --> 00:38:40,827 ..half a dozen times in his entire life, maybe I, erm... 633 00:38:44,827 --> 00:38:46,008 I blame him. 634 00:38:47,827 --> 00:38:50,858 I blame HIM, not his disability. 635 00:38:55,978 --> 00:38:58,726 For what I tell myself he's stolen from us. 636 00:38:58,728 --> 00:39:01,138 From you, from me. 637 00:39:02,258 --> 00:39:05,138 - From Cass. - Marn... - And I am telling you this, Dean... 638 00:39:07,907 --> 00:39:11,056 ..because I want you to know that I am not who you think I am. 639 00:39:11,058 --> 00:39:15,006 That part of me is just an awful person. 640 00:39:15,008 --> 00:39:19,256 But an awful person who, well, at least, I hope, 641 00:39:19,258 --> 00:39:22,546 despite what I have just told you, you still love. 642 00:39:22,548 --> 00:39:24,136 Of course. 643 00:39:24,138 --> 00:39:28,695 So, surely, surely, that means you can tell me stuff. 644 00:39:28,697 --> 00:39:30,138 About your past. 645 00:39:32,468 --> 00:39:34,728 And about your family - whoever they are. 646 00:39:37,218 --> 00:39:40,338 Things that maybe you think will make me... 647 00:39:41,498 --> 00:39:46,258 ..hate you or fear you or whatever, I dunno, because it just won't. 648 00:39:49,058 --> 00:39:52,546 But what is killing me is the secrets. 649 00:39:52,548 --> 00:39:55,138 The years of secrets. 650 00:39:56,368 --> 00:40:01,577 Of writing a Mother's Day card to a mother you told me had died. 651 00:40:03,008 --> 00:40:04,616 Going to Calais when we were supposed 652 00:40:04,618 --> 00:40:06,336 to have given up all that crap years ago. 653 00:40:06,338 --> 00:40:09,895 Lying about where you are today, I can't take it anymore. 654 00:40:09,897 --> 00:40:12,416 I just can't take the secrets and lies, 655 00:40:12,418 --> 00:40:15,056 not when we've got so much else to deal with. 656 00:40:15,058 --> 00:40:17,697 So, please... just talk to me, Dean. 657 00:40:19,748 --> 00:40:22,766 - You're tired, Marn. I am too. - No, Dean. 658 00:40:22,768 --> 00:40:25,726 We will do this... but not now. 659 00:40:25,728 --> 00:40:26,648 Please. 660 00:40:26,673 --> 00:40:28,642 - Dean. - Please. 661 00:40:33,258 --> 00:40:36,108 - He's just down there at the end. - OK. Cheers, mate. 662 00:40:51,897 --> 00:40:53,466 So, those are the original files 663 00:40:53,468 --> 00:40:56,645 connected to Fiona Grayson's driving conviction in '93. 664 00:40:56,647 --> 00:41:00,256 And it turns out that a child died during this incident 665 00:41:00,258 --> 00:41:02,496 - in the car that she collided with. - Wow. 666 00:41:02,498 --> 00:41:05,336 One of the officers attending smelt alcohol on Fiona's breath, 667 00:41:05,338 --> 00:41:07,645 and so obviously tried to give her a test at the time, 668 00:41:07,647 --> 00:41:09,856 but she was so upset, crying hysterically, 669 00:41:09,858 --> 00:41:12,186 that they were unable to successfully give her one 670 00:41:12,188 --> 00:41:14,746 at the scene, so she was arrested and taken to the local nick 671 00:41:14,748 --> 00:41:17,336 - where a blood test was taken there instead. - And? 672 00:41:17,338 --> 00:41:21,216 - It was lost. - Lost? Lost where, the lab or the nick? 673 00:41:21,218 --> 00:41:23,056 The nick. Before it got sent to the lab. 674 00:41:23,058 --> 00:41:24,336 Which nick was this? 675 00:41:24,338 --> 00:41:26,695 - Kingston. - Are you heading where I think you're heading? 676 00:41:26,697 --> 00:41:29,775 So I checked where both Ram Sidhu and Liz Baildon worked at the time. 677 00:41:29,777 --> 00:41:34,056 - And? - Baildon worked at Kingston nick from '91 to '94. 678 00:41:34,058 --> 00:41:38,775 - Oh, man. - Yep. And in the '91 census, it details Liz and Fiona 679 00:41:38,777 --> 00:41:41,416 as living at the same address in Thames Ditton, 680 00:41:41,418 --> 00:41:43,595 about a mile or so from Kingston town centre. 681 00:41:43,597 --> 00:41:44,915 But at the time of this offence, 682 00:41:44,917 --> 00:41:48,136 they're living at separate addresses but both are still in the same area. 683 00:41:48,138 --> 00:41:50,746 If that blood test had come back positive, 684 00:41:50,748 --> 00:41:53,416 - Fiona Grayson would be in jail. - Definitely. 685 00:41:53,418 --> 00:41:55,746 OK, so there are three explanations here. 686 00:41:55,748 --> 00:41:57,858 One, this was just a coincidence. 687 00:41:59,498 --> 00:42:02,895 Two, they were an item and she contrived 688 00:42:02,897 --> 00:42:06,825 to have the blood sample lost for personal reasons. 689 00:42:06,827 --> 00:42:08,288 And then, three... 690 00:42:09,748 --> 00:42:11,138 ..they weren't an item... 691 00:42:12,498 --> 00:42:14,136 ..but Liz Baildon was blackmailed. 692 00:42:14,138 --> 00:42:17,056 Fiona Grayson using whatever the fuck happened with Matthew Walsh 693 00:42:17,058 --> 00:42:19,858 as some kind of... leverage. 694 00:42:21,468 --> 00:42:23,645 - I know what my money's on. - Mm. 695 00:42:27,858 --> 00:42:28,936 Leanne. 696 00:42:28,938 --> 00:42:31,645 Hey. Cass. Any chance you could pop in for five minutes 697 00:42:31,647 --> 00:42:32,858 when you have a chance? 698 00:42:35,008 --> 00:42:36,218 What can I say? 699 00:42:37,618 --> 00:42:42,748 Just now, we found out, just now, this actually happened. 700 00:42:46,697 --> 00:42:48,148 I feel differently. 701 00:42:48,173 --> 00:42:50,082 - Oh, Jesus, Ram. - I know. 702 00:42:51,258 --> 00:42:53,216 I'm sorry, but... 703 00:42:53,218 --> 00:42:56,746 I've just spent the last seven days slightly killing myself mentally 704 00:42:56,748 --> 00:42:58,138 to get to where you were. 705 00:43:00,108 --> 00:43:02,136 Trying somehow to find a way of thinking 706 00:43:02,138 --> 00:43:04,577 that we didn't have to do this thing. 707 00:43:06,777 --> 00:43:07,948 This brutal... 708 00:43:09,198 --> 00:43:11,288 ..really horrible thing. 709 00:43:13,827 --> 00:43:15,976 - You just changed your mind. - No. 710 00:43:15,978 --> 00:43:19,288 I... I just, erm... 711 00:43:22,978 --> 00:43:27,006 What if something happened to me? What if I got ill or... 712 00:43:27,008 --> 00:43:30,976 I don't know, anything, that meant you had to do it all on your own? 713 00:43:30,978 --> 00:43:34,575 You know, I just started to think how difficult that would be for you. 714 00:43:34,577 --> 00:43:37,216 I mean, I'm not definitely saying we do go for termination, 715 00:43:37,218 --> 00:43:40,178 I'm not saying that yet, I'm just saying... can we...? 716 00:43:41,468 --> 00:43:44,618 We can keep thinking... for a bit longer. 717 00:43:52,538 --> 00:43:53,538 OK. 718 00:43:55,338 --> 00:43:57,695 OK, am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? 719 00:43:57,697 --> 00:44:04,176 So, I'm seeing a sharp-ended object approximately ten centimetres long, 720 00:44:04,178 --> 00:44:08,536 maybe three quarters of a centimetre wide inside the skull cavity. 721 00:44:08,538 --> 00:44:10,746 - And what do we think that is? - No idea. 722 00:44:10,748 --> 00:44:13,825 - I need to open the skull up now. - It got in pre or postmortem? 723 00:44:13,827 --> 00:44:16,136 Again, I don't know until I open it up. 724 00:44:16,138 --> 00:44:19,176 - But best guess? - From its position, you would logically assume 725 00:44:19,178 --> 00:44:21,336 it entered through the temporal bone fracture, 726 00:44:21,338 --> 00:44:23,106 which, when I examined it properly, 727 00:44:23,108 --> 00:44:26,695 actually contained remnants of brick dust, so... 728 00:44:26,697 --> 00:44:28,216 two theories, 729 00:44:28,218 --> 00:44:31,316 firstly, he was being chased and at some point, 730 00:44:31,318 --> 00:44:34,646 he tripped and fell, hitting his head on a wall, 731 00:44:34,648 --> 00:44:37,226 which maybe had a metal spike of some sort, 732 00:44:37,228 --> 00:44:40,426 an old bolt from some railings or whatever, 733 00:44:40,428 --> 00:44:43,986 and this is what killed him, breaking off inside the skull. 734 00:44:43,988 --> 00:44:45,785 Or... 735 00:44:45,787 --> 00:44:47,986 he tripped and fell, hitting his head, 736 00:44:47,988 --> 00:44:51,116 which rendered him unconscious and, whilst unconscious, 737 00:44:51,118 --> 00:44:55,116 he was basically stabbed through the head wound with this object. 738 00:44:55,118 --> 00:44:55,901 Jeez. 739 00:44:55,926 --> 00:44:57,936 - Yeah. - So... 740 00:44:57,938 --> 00:45:03,348 first theory, the chase that went tragically, but accidentally, wrong. 741 00:45:06,018 --> 00:45:10,268 Second theory... this was no accident. 742 00:45:11,787 --> 00:45:16,068 This was a very violent and very deliberate... 743 00:45:17,398 --> 00:45:19,508 - ..murder. - Correct. 744 00:45:23,032 --> 00:45:29,032 *CREDITS*