1 00:00:00,090 --> 00:00:01,968 I want my half of the house to go to Jenny. 2 00:00:01,969 --> 00:00:03,689 Not sure what's made you change your mind. 3 00:00:03,690 --> 00:00:05,369 Anyone need another cuppa? 4 00:00:05,370 --> 00:00:07,409 The Metropolitan Police today released details 5 00:00:07,410 --> 00:00:10,370 of a macabre discovery made in East London. 6 00:00:10,409 --> 00:00:12,888 Matthew was no saint. He had half a dozen convictions. 7 00:00:12,889 --> 00:00:15,156 In that car were four probationers 8 00:00:15,169 --> 00:00:18,009 going by the names of Dean, Fiona, Liz, and Ram. 9 00:00:18,010 --> 00:00:20,248 I want to know if any of them are still serving coppers, 10 00:00:20,249 --> 00:00:22,809 because if they are, that's gonna be very interesting. 11 00:00:22,810 --> 00:00:24,248 Might be back a bit late tonight. 12 00:00:24,249 --> 00:00:26,489 I'm gonna go for a run, work some of this stress off. 13 00:00:26,490 --> 00:00:29,408 Going for the top job, under the circumstances, 14 00:00:29,409 --> 00:00:31,929 balls of steel. 15 00:00:31,970 --> 00:00:34,168 Fundraising feels a lot realer than air-con systems. 16 00:00:34,169 --> 00:00:36,128 If you ask me for one single thing more, 17 00:00:36,129 --> 00:00:37,649 I will make you regret it. Debt paid. 18 00:00:37,650 --> 00:00:40,199 DC Collier needs to go through everything you removed. 19 00:00:40,224 --> 00:00:41,049 Why? 20 00:00:41,050 --> 00:00:43,728 The body that we found in this freezer was not whole. 21 00:00:43,729 --> 00:00:46,488 We might have a connection. She said he was Asian. 22 00:00:46,489 --> 00:00:48,168 What's the story with you and Lucy Myers? 23 00:00:48,169 --> 00:00:50,208 She's saying you were inappropriate with her. 24 00:00:50,209 --> 00:00:51,889 If she makes it formal, I'll destroy her. 25 00:00:51,890 --> 00:00:53,009 What are you implying? 26 00:00:53,010 --> 00:00:54,690 Take him for a beer, get a sense of whether 27 00:00:54,691 --> 00:00:56,408 she's manipulating him or not. 28 00:00:56,409 --> 00:00:58,609 A small bit of me wants to punish someone. 29 00:00:58,610 --> 00:01:02,706 If you see it getting in the way at any point, call me out on it. 30 00:01:04,890 --> 00:01:06,890 'All We Do' by Oh Wonder 31 00:01:13,530 --> 00:01:15,929 ? All we do is hide away 32 00:01:17,409 --> 00:01:21,050 ? All we do is All we do is hide away 33 00:01:21,090 --> 00:01:23,769 ? All we do is lie in wait 34 00:01:25,129 --> 00:01:28,569 ? All we do is All we do is lie in wait 35 00:01:28,610 --> 00:01:32,489 ? I've been upside down 36 00:01:32,530 --> 00:01:36,129 ? I don't wanna be The right way round 37 00:01:36,170 --> 00:01:39,970 ? Can't find paradise On the ground. ? 38 00:01:46,094 --> 00:01:50,094 *CREDITS* 39 00:02:11,130 --> 00:02:12,929 - Hey, love. - Hey. 40 00:02:14,369 --> 00:02:15,969 You OK? 41 00:02:16,010 --> 00:02:18,006 Yeah, just feeling really snotty. 42 00:02:18,031 --> 00:02:19,768 Think I'm gonna call in sick. 43 00:02:19,769 --> 00:02:21,929 Oh, no, poor you. 44 00:02:23,130 --> 00:02:24,729 - You had some cold and flu? - Uh-uh. 45 00:02:24,730 --> 00:02:27,063 Sure we've got some here somewhere. 46 00:02:32,170 --> 00:02:34,368 And why are we not just sticking this on Fogerty? 47 00:02:34,369 --> 00:02:37,009 The body was stored in his house, for Christ's sake. 48 00:02:37,010 --> 00:02:40,290 Because four police officers might also be involved. 49 00:02:40,330 --> 00:02:43,488 But either way, the suspects who are actually alive 50 00:02:43,489 --> 00:02:46,089 seem the best route to the truth, to me. 51 00:02:46,929 --> 00:02:48,449 Maybe you disagree? 52 00:02:52,330 --> 00:02:54,368 I'll give you 48 hours to find something concrete 53 00:02:54,369 --> 00:02:56,850 suggesting that it wasn't him, 54 00:02:56,890 --> 00:02:59,050 or that's what I will go with. 55 00:02:59,089 --> 00:03:01,049 Cause of death and the rest of the body 56 00:03:01,050 --> 00:03:02,917 would be quite a good start. 57 00:03:13,209 --> 00:03:15,369 - Hello, sir. - Morning. 58 00:03:15,410 --> 00:03:16,809 I came to find you in your office, 59 00:03:16,810 --> 00:03:18,609 but they said you were agile working today. 60 00:03:18,610 --> 00:03:19,528 Yeah. 61 00:03:19,529 --> 00:03:24,850 I'm just feeling a bit battered after the other day, so I'm... 62 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:27,488 catching up on some paperwork from home. 63 00:03:27,489 --> 00:03:28,570 No problem. 64 00:03:28,610 --> 00:03:32,170 Take it easy for a few days, get your strength back. 65 00:03:32,209 --> 00:03:33,889 You're gonna need it. 66 00:03:34,570 --> 00:03:35,929 I'm sorry? 67 00:03:35,969 --> 00:03:37,248 You didn't hear this from me, 68 00:03:37,249 --> 00:03:39,768 but I've just got out of a meeting with the selection panel. 69 00:03:39,769 --> 00:03:42,369 You walked it, Lizzie. 70 00:03:42,410 --> 00:03:46,250 The chair will call this afternoon, but... the post is yours. 71 00:03:47,089 --> 00:03:49,529 That's brilliant, sir. 72 00:03:53,249 --> 00:03:58,369 Right, so, she sees the car stop about here, 73 00:03:58,410 --> 00:04:02,450 and a man we think is our victim, Matthew Walsh, roughly here. 74 00:04:02,489 --> 00:04:05,730 She then sees an Asian male get out of the car 75 00:04:05,769 --> 00:04:08,369 and run in the direction of our victim, 76 00:04:08,410 --> 00:04:10,129 towards the Heaverfields Estate here. 77 00:04:10,130 --> 00:04:12,410 - Any description of the car? - No. 78 00:04:12,450 --> 00:04:14,648 Did she hear anything, any shouts from either man? 79 00:04:14,649 --> 00:04:16,049 No, but she's quite a way away, 80 00:04:16,050 --> 00:04:18,448 so there could have been shouts, she just didn't hear them. 81 00:04:18,449 --> 00:04:20,649 And she didn't see anyone else get out? 82 00:04:20,650 --> 00:04:24,368 No, but as this was happening, she turns immediately left here, 83 00:04:24,369 --> 00:04:26,928 heading away from the incident and home to her flat. 84 00:04:26,929 --> 00:04:29,747 So they could've all got out, she just didn't see that? 85 00:04:29,748 --> 00:04:33,689 Exactly. OK, thank you, Fran, very good work. 86 00:04:35,249 --> 00:04:38,809 So, our imperative is obviously to find out 87 00:04:38,850 --> 00:04:40,729 exactly what did happen that night. 88 00:04:40,730 --> 00:04:42,649 And right now, I mainly have lots of questions. 89 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:47,809 So, if this was Fogerty's car, why did it stop? 90 00:04:47,850 --> 00:04:51,489 Why did one of them, at least, 91 00:04:51,530 --> 00:04:53,730 possibly Ram Sidhu, then get out? 92 00:04:53,770 --> 00:04:55,690 What might the connection have been 93 00:04:55,715 --> 00:04:57,609 with Matthew and anyone in the car? 94 00:04:57,610 --> 00:04:59,248 Where did Matthew end up, 95 00:04:59,249 --> 00:05:02,210 and ultimately, where, how, and why did he die? 96 00:05:02,249 --> 00:05:04,969 Was it an accident, was it manslaughter, was it murder? 97 00:05:04,970 --> 00:05:07,729 And whatever it was, how many people in the car, 98 00:05:07,730 --> 00:05:10,850 if any, were involved in his death? 99 00:05:10,889 --> 00:05:13,849 So, Fran, can you speak to the other two original witnesses 100 00:05:13,850 --> 00:05:15,169 as soon as, please? 101 00:05:15,170 --> 00:05:20,449 Murray. Matthew's son, Jerome, just dropped these off for us. 102 00:05:20,489 --> 00:05:23,889 They're from Matthew's older brother, Clive. 103 00:05:23,929 --> 00:05:25,688 There's return addresses on some of them. 104 00:05:25,689 --> 00:05:28,290 I'd love to track him down, please. 105 00:05:28,329 --> 00:05:30,808 And, Jake, locating the rest of the victim 106 00:05:30,809 --> 00:05:34,609 is almost certainly our best chance of establishing cause of death. 107 00:05:34,610 --> 00:05:36,808 I've got the Super doubting this even is a murder. 108 00:05:36,809 --> 00:05:37,888 I need progress, mate. 109 00:05:37,889 --> 00:05:40,169 I'm heading to the lab after this to chase the key fobs. 110 00:05:40,170 --> 00:05:43,008 - OK, make this your number one priority. - Guv. 111 00:05:43,009 --> 00:05:45,940 Kaz, do a career history with HR 112 00:05:45,965 --> 00:05:49,329 on all four of these names, please. 113 00:05:49,369 --> 00:05:51,169 Link in with Professional Standards, 114 00:05:51,170 --> 00:05:53,730 and then maybe do a general PND trawl? 115 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:54,970 Yeah, got it. 116 00:05:55,009 --> 00:05:58,170 - And welcome back, by the way. - Thank you. 117 00:05:58,210 --> 00:06:01,769 DI Khan and I are gonna try and speak today with Liz Baildon 118 00:06:01,770 --> 00:06:04,328 and Fiona Grayson, and then do the other two tomorrow, 119 00:06:04,329 --> 00:06:07,977 but we need some purchase on this pretty fast, or it dies. 120 00:06:08,970 --> 00:06:10,449 Thank you. 121 00:06:12,210 --> 00:06:13,849 Oh, hi there, this is Fiona Grayson. 122 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:16,448 I came in yesterday with my partner, Geoff Tomlinson, 123 00:06:16,449 --> 00:06:18,368 to sign all the exchange forms. 124 00:06:18,369 --> 00:06:20,970 Oh, yes. Hello, Ms Grayson. 125 00:06:21,009 --> 00:06:23,129 Hi. Yeah, I was just wondering, 126 00:06:23,170 --> 00:06:25,008 has the money actually gone through yet? 127 00:06:25,009 --> 00:06:27,650 The deposit, has it been drawn down? 128 00:06:27,689 --> 00:06:30,889 Erm... I'm not sure if it's been actioned yet. 129 00:06:30,929 --> 00:06:32,529 I can certainly check for you. 130 00:06:32,530 --> 00:06:36,178 If you could, please. And if it hasn't, could you stop it? 131 00:06:36,290 --> 00:06:38,009 I'm sorry? 132 00:06:38,050 --> 00:06:40,529 I need you to stop the payment, if you can. 133 00:06:40,530 --> 00:06:44,730 Erm... We have a personal situation here, 134 00:06:44,770 --> 00:06:48,050 and, yeah, I need a day or so to sort it out. 135 00:06:48,090 --> 00:06:51,850 Right, well, let me see first if it has already gone, 136 00:06:51,889 --> 00:06:53,409 and then I'll call you right back. 137 00:06:53,410 --> 00:06:56,489 Would you? Thank you. ASAP, please. 138 00:07:01,050 --> 00:07:02,409 One other thing - 139 00:07:02,410 --> 00:07:04,448 let's get an authority for mobile phone records. 140 00:07:04,449 --> 00:07:06,649 If they've seen that Walsh's body's been found, 141 00:07:06,650 --> 00:07:09,448 be interesting to know if any of them have made contact. 142 00:07:09,449 --> 00:07:11,129 Yep, OK, no problem. 143 00:07:12,929 --> 00:07:15,662 We're moving house. You need tomorrow off, 144 00:07:15,689 --> 00:07:18,248 which is why you booked it six bloody weeks ago. 145 00:07:18,249 --> 00:07:21,888 I know, I know. It's just that we're so short-handed right now. 146 00:07:21,889 --> 00:07:24,448 But, listen, I'll call the removals company 147 00:07:24,449 --> 00:07:26,169 and get them to put an extra guy on it. 148 00:07:26,170 --> 00:07:27,769 I'll try to get off by four. 149 00:07:27,770 --> 00:07:29,610 Four? Marvellous 150 00:07:29,650 --> 00:07:32,568 Yeah, welcome to my world. Look, I've gotta go. 151 00:07:32,569 --> 00:07:35,469 I'll call you later. Sorry again. I love you. 152 00:07:36,449 --> 00:07:39,290 Oh, that is brilliant news, thank you. 153 00:07:39,329 --> 00:07:42,008 I can't tell you how much we appreciate it. 154 00:07:42,009 --> 00:07:44,808 Yeah. Well, we look forward to seeing you, too. 155 00:07:44,809 --> 00:07:48,249 Tell them to bring their wallets! 156 00:07:48,290 --> 00:07:50,530 Thank you. Thanks. Bye. 157 00:07:52,850 --> 00:07:57,809 I have just sold the last table to Terry Fuller, full whack, 158 00:07:57,850 --> 00:07:59,609 and he's bringing a load of his brokers. 159 00:07:59,610 --> 00:08:03,329 That is brilliant news, love. Well done. 160 00:08:03,331 --> 00:08:04,498 Did you hear that? 161 00:08:04,499 --> 00:08:06,194 - No. - There's gonna be everybody. 162 00:08:06,195 --> 00:08:08,043 - Do you want to help me with this? - Yes. 163 00:08:08,044 --> 00:08:09,049 Well, come on, then. 164 00:08:09,050 --> 00:08:10,808 - Gonna straighten it up. - Yeah. 165 00:08:10,809 --> 00:08:13,090 Fiona, it's Mark. 166 00:08:13,129 --> 00:08:15,529 I've had a call from your solicitor, slightly freaked out. 167 00:08:15,530 --> 00:08:17,888 I mean, please tell me she misunderstood, 168 00:08:17,889 --> 00:08:20,169 but she said you wanted to withhold your deposit. 169 00:08:20,170 --> 00:08:22,730 - Yeah. - What the fuck? Why? 170 00:08:24,290 --> 00:08:26,210 Has it been paid? 171 00:08:26,249 --> 00:08:29,209 Yeah, it went out last night. What's going on? Is there a problem? 172 00:08:29,210 --> 00:08:30,610 OK, erm... 173 00:08:31,770 --> 00:08:35,969 ...do not tell your brother this, but can I come and see you? 174 00:08:36,010 --> 00:08:38,449 - Fiona... - Please, Mark. 175 00:08:40,250 --> 00:08:43,569 I'm in meetings until six. Can it wait till then? 176 00:08:43,609 --> 00:08:44,689 Yeah. 177 00:08:44,729 --> 00:08:46,928 Actually, my last appointment's nearer my flat. 178 00:08:46,929 --> 00:08:49,729 Can you meet me there at 6:30? 179 00:08:49,770 --> 00:08:52,650 I'll see you then. OK. 180 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:11,729 Lucy? 181 00:09:13,050 --> 00:09:15,249 - You can do one. - I've got a proposition for you. 182 00:09:15,250 --> 00:09:17,969 - Piss off! - A financial proposition. 183 00:09:24,770 --> 00:09:27,010 Elizabeth? 184 00:09:27,050 --> 00:09:32,849 Yeah, sorry, Eugenia, I haven't had time to think about your money. 185 00:09:32,890 --> 00:09:35,728 - Right, it's just... - My mother has asked, 186 00:09:35,729 --> 00:09:38,289 could you not bring your daughter to work with you? 187 00:09:38,290 --> 00:09:41,130 She says she makes quite a lot of noise. 188 00:09:41,170 --> 00:09:43,049 I'm sorry, it's an inset day, 189 00:09:43,050 --> 00:09:46,409 and the childcare is very expensive, which is why I really need... 190 00:09:46,410 --> 00:09:47,849 Please, Eugenia. 191 00:09:47,890 --> 00:09:53,010 It's not a brilliant time, as you can probably see. 192 00:09:53,050 --> 00:09:55,609 I will come back to you in a day or so. 193 00:09:58,770 --> 00:10:00,209 Of course. 194 00:10:02,569 --> 00:10:03,770 Thank you. 195 00:10:11,094 --> 00:10:13,094 _ 196 00:10:31,295 --> 00:10:34,575 So, as I said briefly at the door, ma'am... 197 00:10:34,614 --> 00:10:36,374 Liz, please. 198 00:10:37,614 --> 00:10:40,175 Liz, thank you. As I said at the door, 199 00:10:40,215 --> 00:10:42,934 we're investigating what we believe to be an historic murder. 200 00:10:42,935 --> 00:10:44,254 You believe? 201 00:10:44,295 --> 00:10:47,013 We're waiting for cause of death to be completely confirmed. 202 00:10:47,014 --> 00:10:48,095 OK. 203 00:10:48,134 --> 00:10:51,975 But we think... we hope you might be able to help 204 00:10:52,014 --> 00:10:54,814 throw some light on the events of an evening 205 00:10:54,815 --> 00:10:57,574 connected to the victim's death, 30 years ago. 206 00:10:57,575 --> 00:10:59,094 - Oh, wow. - Yeah, I know. 207 00:10:59,095 --> 00:11:02,013 I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast. 208 00:11:02,014 --> 00:11:05,342 - But let's see how we get on, shall we? - Fire away. 209 00:11:06,494 --> 00:11:09,614 So, a few days ago, we found a body. 210 00:11:09,654 --> 00:11:13,175 We've identified the victim as a Matthew Kieran Walsh, 211 00:11:13,215 --> 00:11:16,374 who actually went missing in 1990. 212 00:11:16,415 --> 00:11:19,695 His body was completely preserved when we found it, 213 00:11:19,734 --> 00:11:22,294 and we've subsequently found evidence to confirm 214 00:11:22,295 --> 00:11:25,294 that he'd been kept in a freezer for the last three decades. 215 00:11:25,295 --> 00:11:27,733 I think I saw this on the news last night. 216 00:11:27,734 --> 00:11:29,695 Yes, you will have done. 217 00:11:31,134 --> 00:11:34,215 So, this is him. 218 00:11:37,374 --> 00:11:38,654 OK. 219 00:11:40,894 --> 00:11:42,094 Face doesn't ring any bells? 220 00:11:42,095 --> 00:11:44,734 Other than last night, no. Should it? 221 00:11:44,774 --> 00:11:48,415 No, no, that's fine. Thank you for that. 222 00:11:49,654 --> 00:11:52,095 So, then, we connected the victim 223 00:11:52,134 --> 00:11:55,095 to the house of a man called Robert Fogerty. 224 00:11:56,215 --> 00:12:00,815 And we believe it was him who stored the body all those years, 225 00:12:00,854 --> 00:12:03,414 and I wondered if his face was at all familiar? 226 00:12:03,415 --> 00:12:05,095 Nope, sorry. 227 00:12:09,455 --> 00:12:13,415 So, Mr Fogerty is himself now dead, 228 00:12:13,455 --> 00:12:15,733 but we have fairly good reason to believe 229 00:12:15,734 --> 00:12:20,894 that at some point on the night of the 30th March 1990, 230 00:12:20,935 --> 00:12:24,774 Mr Fogerty had Matthew Walsh's body in the boot of his car. 231 00:12:26,215 --> 00:12:28,014 Oh, right. 232 00:12:28,055 --> 00:12:31,534 And the reason I ask if his face was at all familiar 233 00:12:31,575 --> 00:12:36,455 is that Mr Fogerty was actually a police probationer, 234 00:12:36,494 --> 00:12:39,455 and, we believe, trained with you at Hendon. 235 00:12:39,494 --> 00:12:42,614 - A probationer? - And trained with you. 236 00:12:42,654 --> 00:12:45,415 So would you mind having another look? 237 00:12:48,815 --> 00:12:51,575 No, I'm so sorry, I don't remember him. 238 00:12:51,614 --> 00:12:53,014 Not a problem. 239 00:12:55,055 --> 00:12:59,614 So that then just leaves the actual car journey 240 00:12:59,654 --> 00:13:02,554 - that Mr Fogerty made that evening. - Right. 241 00:13:02,575 --> 00:13:05,454 Which is mainly what I wanted to try to get some further details on, 242 00:13:05,455 --> 00:13:08,854 because we do also have good evidence, Liz, 243 00:13:08,894 --> 00:13:14,055 to suggest that Fogerty wasn't alone that night in his car, 244 00:13:14,095 --> 00:13:18,014 that he had four other probationers from Hendon with him, 245 00:13:18,055 --> 00:13:20,175 and one of them... 246 00:13:21,774 --> 00:13:23,295 ...was you. 247 00:13:25,095 --> 00:13:26,254 Whoa. 248 00:13:31,374 --> 00:13:32,815 What is this? 249 00:13:32,854 --> 00:13:37,374 I thought I was being interviewed as a possible witness. 250 00:13:40,494 --> 00:13:42,294 I mean, this sounds like... 251 00:13:43,734 --> 00:13:45,294 Am I a suspect here? 252 00:13:45,295 --> 00:13:46,454 Absolutely not. 253 00:13:46,455 --> 00:13:50,254 As I say, we're just trying to establish a chain of events. 254 00:13:50,295 --> 00:13:53,373 And if you'd prefer, I can send it through to Professional Standards 255 00:13:53,374 --> 00:13:55,815 to interview you more formally... 256 00:13:55,854 --> 00:13:58,575 at a station, under caution. 257 00:13:58,614 --> 00:14:00,174 I'm very happy to do that. 258 00:14:00,175 --> 00:14:03,854 I just assumed that might be difficult for you. 259 00:14:05,534 --> 00:14:07,654 But it's your call entirely. 260 00:14:16,095 --> 00:14:19,295 Yeah, I do vaguely remember him. 261 00:14:19,335 --> 00:14:20,575 OK. 262 00:14:20,614 --> 00:14:23,613 - So, he was a friend or...? - No, I just remember him. 263 00:14:23,614 --> 00:14:27,095 OK, so a face you recall from the course? 264 00:14:27,134 --> 00:14:28,654 Yeah. 265 00:14:28,695 --> 00:14:31,654 And... Thank you. 266 00:14:31,695 --> 00:14:33,733 Was it a close-knit bunch, would you say? 267 00:14:33,734 --> 00:14:35,854 Why would you ask that? 268 00:14:35,894 --> 00:14:39,055 Have you kept in touch with any of them since? 269 00:14:39,095 --> 00:14:41,974 I'm presuming you know I didn't stay with the police very long? 270 00:14:41,975 --> 00:14:43,095 Yes. 271 00:14:43,134 --> 00:14:45,335 Then, why would you ask that? 272 00:14:45,374 --> 00:14:47,934 Unless, of course, you're trying to catch me out or something? 273 00:14:47,935 --> 00:14:49,493 Sorry, I'm absolutely not trying... 274 00:14:49,494 --> 00:14:51,733 No, it wasn't a close-knit bunch. Not for me, anyway. 275 00:14:51,734 --> 00:14:53,934 And no, I haven't kept in touch with any of them. 276 00:14:53,935 --> 00:14:55,654 OK. 277 00:14:55,695 --> 00:14:58,014 So, notwithstanding that, 278 00:14:58,055 --> 00:15:00,013 can I just run a few other names past you? 279 00:15:00,014 --> 00:15:01,773 What's this got to do with your murder? 280 00:15:01,774 --> 00:15:04,374 It's just three names, take ten seconds. 281 00:15:04,734 --> 00:15:05,975 Fine. 282 00:15:06,014 --> 00:15:08,295 - Dean Barton? - No. 283 00:15:08,335 --> 00:15:09,854 Ram Sidhu. 284 00:15:09,894 --> 00:15:12,175 Er... 285 00:15:12,215 --> 00:15:15,935 Vaguely. There was a Sikh lad, I think. 286 00:15:15,975 --> 00:15:18,254 Mm-hm. And Liz Baildon? 287 00:15:18,295 --> 00:15:20,935 - No. - Well, there you go. 288 00:15:20,975 --> 00:15:24,054 Two out of four obviously made a greater impression than you thought. 289 00:15:24,055 --> 00:15:26,695 Erm... So, Fiona, I'd like to, if I may, 290 00:15:26,734 --> 00:15:30,766 to try and take you back to the night of your passing out party. 291 00:15:32,614 --> 00:15:35,134 Well, obviously, I remember Ram. 292 00:15:35,175 --> 00:15:37,295 I remember training with him, 293 00:15:37,335 --> 00:15:39,533 and I know he's done good work since, 294 00:15:39,534 --> 00:15:41,975 in Vice, I believe. 295 00:15:42,014 --> 00:15:44,974 But I have no recollection of any car journey with him 296 00:15:44,975 --> 00:15:46,842 or any of those other names. 297 00:15:48,175 --> 00:15:52,175 I'm not saying it didn't happen, I just don't remember that, 298 00:15:52,215 --> 00:15:55,175 - 30 years later. - Hmm. 299 00:15:55,215 --> 00:15:57,613 Not even when Mr Fogerty got pulled over 300 00:15:57,614 --> 00:15:59,734 and arrested for drink-driving? 301 00:15:59,774 --> 00:16:03,815 - Drink-driving? - Breathalysed and arrested. 302 00:16:03,854 --> 00:16:06,814 Lost his entire career on the evening of the same day it started. 303 00:16:06,815 --> 00:16:09,814 I would've thought that might have stuck in your mind. 304 00:16:09,815 --> 00:16:13,095 Oh, OK, now you mention that... 305 00:16:14,415 --> 00:16:15,575 Yes. 306 00:16:16,975 --> 00:16:19,095 Sorry, I do remember now. 307 00:16:19,134 --> 00:16:21,975 Oh, OK, well, that's excellent. 308 00:16:23,014 --> 00:16:25,853 Apologies. Until you said the breath test thing, 309 00:16:25,854 --> 00:16:27,653 I had no memory of it at all. 310 00:16:27,654 --> 00:16:30,654 Not a problem, it was a long time ago. 311 00:16:30,695 --> 00:16:33,574 Were we coming back from the actual passing out party? 312 00:16:33,575 --> 00:16:35,534 We think so, yes. 313 00:16:35,575 --> 00:16:37,695 I'm getting there now. 314 00:16:37,734 --> 00:16:41,134 I think it was actually me that drove Rob's car back 315 00:16:41,175 --> 00:16:42,653 after he was nicked. 316 00:16:42,654 --> 00:16:48,894 It was. The traffic officer made a note of your request to do that. 317 00:16:48,935 --> 00:16:50,695 That's well remembered. 318 00:16:50,734 --> 00:16:53,975 Yes, cos I was fully comp, I lived near Rob, 319 00:16:54,014 --> 00:16:55,733 so I dropped the others off, 320 00:16:55,734 --> 00:16:58,634 and then I dropped his car back at his place. 321 00:16:59,415 --> 00:17:02,254 - I walked home. - Oh, OK. 322 00:17:04,415 --> 00:17:06,534 Anything else coming back? 323 00:17:06,574 --> 00:17:08,013 No, I don't think so. 324 00:17:08,014 --> 00:17:10,366 Nothing about the mood of anyone in the car? 325 00:17:10,367 --> 00:17:10,934 No. 326 00:17:10,935 --> 00:17:13,134 No recollection of the car stopping at any point 327 00:17:13,135 --> 00:17:14,374 before it was pulled over? 328 00:17:14,375 --> 00:17:15,263 No. 329 00:17:15,275 --> 00:17:17,974 No recollection of anyone getting out at any other point? 330 00:17:17,975 --> 00:17:19,813 No recollection of anyone getting out 331 00:17:19,814 --> 00:17:22,106 and loading a dead body in the boot, 332 00:17:22,131 --> 00:17:23,654 if that's what you mean. 333 00:17:23,695 --> 00:17:25,695 I think that would have stuck. 334 00:17:27,094 --> 00:17:29,734 Yeah, I'm sure. 335 00:17:29,774 --> 00:17:32,814 OK, well, yeah, I think that's it. 336 00:17:34,534 --> 00:17:37,094 That's been really useful. 337 00:17:37,135 --> 00:17:38,935 Thank you so much for that. 338 00:17:39,975 --> 00:17:43,094 - You're good. - Sorry? 339 00:17:43,135 --> 00:17:46,014 Nothing. I'll show you out. 340 00:18:09,574 --> 00:18:11,695 Can I hoover in here now? 341 00:18:12,655 --> 00:18:13,734 Yes. 342 00:18:16,895 --> 00:18:18,575 And see what she wants. 343 00:18:23,975 --> 00:18:27,054 I think we talk Friday about my money. 344 00:18:32,855 --> 00:18:36,183 I'm sorry, I don't remember any of what you describe. 345 00:18:36,375 --> 00:18:38,174 Quite an unusual night, wouldn't you say? 346 00:18:38,175 --> 00:18:40,294 Quite... memorable? 347 00:18:41,375 --> 00:18:43,508 Under normal circumstances, yes. 348 00:18:43,534 --> 00:18:44,814 How do you mean? 349 00:18:50,375 --> 00:18:52,655 My father was a police officer. 350 00:18:53,695 --> 00:18:55,215 His father, too. 351 00:18:56,294 --> 00:19:00,895 And Dad always said the day I qualified... 352 00:19:01,935 --> 00:19:04,335 ...was the happiest day of his life. 353 00:19:06,215 --> 00:19:09,015 The only problem was I absolutely hated it. 354 00:19:10,294 --> 00:19:13,614 Erm... It wasn't a surprise. I always knew I'd hate it. 355 00:19:13,615 --> 00:19:15,854 I always knew I wasn't copper material. 356 00:19:15,855 --> 00:19:17,975 But I adored my father, so... 357 00:19:19,574 --> 00:19:22,375 Anyway, er... 358 00:19:22,415 --> 00:19:26,455 long before I got the letter confirming my application... 359 00:19:28,175 --> 00:19:29,454 ...I began to drink. 360 00:19:29,455 --> 00:19:31,694 And then, when I started the actual training, 361 00:19:31,695 --> 00:19:33,814 I began to drink more. 362 00:19:33,855 --> 00:19:36,991 In fact, I was astonished they didn't kick me out. 363 00:19:37,975 --> 00:19:42,175 Erm... So, that day, the day of the ceremony... 364 00:19:43,574 --> 00:19:49,574 ...as soon as all the guests had left, I just... went for it. 365 00:19:49,615 --> 00:19:52,253 Pouring anything I could find down my throat 366 00:19:52,254 --> 00:19:53,934 to bury the unhappiness. 367 00:19:55,094 --> 00:19:57,773 And I didn't stop for about three more years. 368 00:19:57,774 --> 00:20:03,695 So I remember nothing about that night. 369 00:20:03,734 --> 00:20:06,998 And not much about the next few years, to be honest. 370 00:20:07,855 --> 00:20:11,053 My father died in summer '91, after a long illness, 371 00:20:11,054 --> 00:20:14,334 and... I was able to leave 372 00:20:14,375 --> 00:20:16,214 without feeling that I'd let him down. 373 00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:19,223 And it was only then that I began to get better. 374 00:20:20,294 --> 00:20:25,415 So, yes, of course I should be able to remember what you describe. 375 00:20:28,455 --> 00:20:30,695 But I'm sorry, I don't. 376 00:20:33,215 --> 00:20:35,215 OK. 377 00:20:35,254 --> 00:20:39,695 I'd like to show you a photo of the victim, Matthew Walsh. 378 00:20:50,215 --> 00:20:54,375 No, nothing, sorry. 379 00:20:57,494 --> 00:20:59,694 No problem, thanks for your time. 380 00:21:05,935 --> 00:21:07,814 Don't worry about knocking 381 00:21:07,855 --> 00:21:10,734 So, we are not having this conversation. 382 00:21:10,774 --> 00:21:12,813 And we're not having it because, as ever, 383 00:21:12,814 --> 00:21:15,013 when I'm accused of something I didn't do, 384 00:21:15,014 --> 00:21:17,573 when I am not given the same benefit of the doubt as a white 385 00:21:17,574 --> 00:21:21,415 and maybe less fucking irritating officer would be, 386 00:21:21,455 --> 00:21:24,214 I have to employ unconventional methods to reveal the truth. 387 00:21:24,215 --> 00:21:28,094 Our temp, Lucy Myers, is also, it turns out, 388 00:21:28,135 --> 00:21:31,134 the cousin of a scabby little prick called Tommy Munroe. 389 00:21:31,135 --> 00:21:33,053 A fully paid up member of the EDF, 390 00:21:33,054 --> 00:21:36,533 who I had the very good fortune of sending down last year 391 00:21:36,534 --> 00:21:38,813 for importing 20 keys of Colombian flake. 392 00:21:38,814 --> 00:21:42,773 Now, I think it's be fair to say me and him didn't really hit it off, 393 00:21:42,774 --> 00:21:46,574 but if what his cousin said to me this morning is any clue, 394 00:21:46,615 --> 00:21:50,855 I think Juicy Lucy shares a few of his political inclinations. 395 00:21:52,334 --> 00:21:54,975 50 measly quid? You fucking Paki slag. 396 00:21:55,014 --> 00:21:58,918 Get out of my house, or I'll get my brothers round here and... 397 00:22:03,334 --> 00:22:04,655 Hello? 398 00:22:04,695 --> 00:22:06,455 Hey, love, it's me. 399 00:22:06,494 --> 00:22:07,974 I'm on my way home, 400 00:22:07,975 --> 00:22:10,333 and I wanted to say I'm so sorry I've not been around. 401 00:22:10,334 --> 00:22:12,614 I had a serious work issue, but it's resolved now. 402 00:22:12,615 --> 00:22:14,375 So can we talk? 403 00:22:17,215 --> 00:22:19,135 Yeah, course. 404 00:22:20,855 --> 00:22:22,975 Yeah, a bit flaky and weird. 405 00:22:23,014 --> 00:22:25,694 I mean, she's never told her partner she'd been a copper. 406 00:22:25,695 --> 00:22:26,895 Serious? 407 00:22:26,935 --> 00:22:28,694 But I keep coming back to the fact 408 00:22:28,695 --> 00:22:30,493 that we don't have any real connection yet 409 00:22:30,494 --> 00:22:32,654 between Walsh and the other four. 410 00:22:32,655 --> 00:22:34,455 At the moment. 411 00:22:34,494 --> 00:22:36,454 Obviously, there's another two to speak to, 412 00:22:36,455 --> 00:22:38,813 but we don't even know if Walsh was killed that night, 413 00:22:38,814 --> 00:22:40,533 just he wasn't seen again. 414 00:22:40,534 --> 00:22:43,493 You think he could have died after the last sighting? 415 00:22:43,494 --> 00:22:45,655 My point is we that don't know. 416 00:22:45,695 --> 00:22:47,894 I mean, all we've got that's specific to that night 417 00:22:47,895 --> 00:22:50,855 is a sighting of a car, possibly Fogerty's, 418 00:22:50,895 --> 00:22:52,854 and a man, possibly Sidhu, getting out 419 00:22:52,855 --> 00:22:55,694 and heading in the same direction as another man, possibly Walsh. 420 00:22:55,695 --> 00:22:57,655 Was it a chase? Maybe. 421 00:22:57,695 --> 00:22:59,934 I just want to be sure, given everything you've said, 422 00:22:59,935 --> 00:23:01,934 that we're not heading down a rabbit hole. 423 00:23:01,935 --> 00:23:04,094 Mmm. 424 00:23:04,135 --> 00:23:05,815 I've got Jake calling. 425 00:23:05,855 --> 00:23:08,053 Let's talk after we've interviewed the other two. 426 00:23:08,054 --> 00:23:09,215 Cool. 427 00:23:09,254 --> 00:23:11,254 - Night, Sunny. - Night, boss. 428 00:23:12,254 --> 00:23:13,614 Hey, Jake, what's up? 429 00:23:13,615 --> 00:23:16,533 So, we were able to eliminate the writing on six of the fobs. 430 00:23:16,534 --> 00:23:18,945 We had garden gate, spare room, 431 00:23:18,970 --> 00:23:20,734 two padlocks, cellar, 432 00:23:20,774 --> 00:23:23,094 and then one that just said "SSS". 433 00:23:23,135 --> 00:23:25,654 Now, on the off chance, I googled storage facilities 434 00:23:25,655 --> 00:23:28,454 in a five-mile radius of Fogerty's house, and guess what? 435 00:23:28,455 --> 00:23:30,290 Less than half a mile away is 436 00:23:30,315 --> 00:23:32,695 a facility called Stow Safe & Sound. 437 00:23:32,734 --> 00:23:35,174 - Have you called them? - Shut for the night now. 438 00:23:35,175 --> 00:23:36,846 But we've got to be in with 439 00:23:36,871 --> 00:23:38,575 a shout there, haven't we, boss? 440 00:23:40,329 --> 00:23:41,569 I've fucked up. 441 00:23:41,609 --> 00:23:43,369 Yeah, I guessed that much. 442 00:23:43,409 --> 00:23:48,649 So, I'm worried about something in my past 443 00:23:48,690 --> 00:23:51,289 that the mortgage company could find out about, 444 00:23:51,290 --> 00:23:54,088 which I'm scared could make them decide to withdraw their money, 445 00:23:54,089 --> 00:23:56,929 so we couldn't complete, and we'd lose our deposit. 446 00:23:56,930 --> 00:23:59,449 - What thing in your past? - I'll tell you that in a minute. 447 00:23:59,450 --> 00:24:03,649 But first, I wanted to know if there's a way 448 00:24:03,690 --> 00:24:05,729 you could change my name on the mortgage forms? 449 00:24:05,730 --> 00:24:07,088 Change your name? 450 00:24:07,089 --> 00:24:09,408 Use Geoff's surname, make me Fiona Tomlinson, 451 00:24:09,409 --> 00:24:11,290 as if we were married. 452 00:24:12,530 --> 00:24:18,129 So this thing in your past can't be linked by them to you now? 453 00:24:18,169 --> 00:24:19,450 Yeah. 454 00:24:20,530 --> 00:24:21,649 OK. 455 00:24:25,210 --> 00:24:26,409 Well... 456 00:24:30,849 --> 00:24:33,049 ...firstly, almost certainly, no. 457 00:24:33,050 --> 00:24:36,368 And even if I could, to be honest with you, I wouldn't. 458 00:24:36,369 --> 00:24:38,289 But more importantly than that, 459 00:24:38,290 --> 00:24:41,648 the mortgage company aren't gonna withdraw their loan, Fiona. 460 00:24:41,649 --> 00:24:42,969 They've already approved it, 461 00:24:42,970 --> 00:24:45,328 they've already done their credit and legal checks. 462 00:24:45,329 --> 00:24:48,368 I read they can actually still withdraw the funds after exchange, 463 00:24:48,369 --> 00:24:50,168 if they receive new information. 464 00:24:50,169 --> 00:24:51,490 OK. 465 00:24:54,129 --> 00:24:56,409 What is it we're talking about? 466 00:24:57,849 --> 00:25:00,049 - I have a criminal conviction. - The fuck? 467 00:25:00,050 --> 00:25:01,088 - I know. - For what? 468 00:25:01,089 --> 00:25:03,889 - I'd prefer not to say. - Fiona... 469 00:25:03,930 --> 00:25:06,249 It's from years ago and I'm pretty sure it's spent. 470 00:25:06,250 --> 00:25:09,049 It's just... I woke up in a total panic last night 471 00:25:09,050 --> 00:25:11,328 that they might do another credit check or something. 472 00:25:11,329 --> 00:25:14,769 And you didn't think maybe to discuss this with me or Geoff 473 00:25:14,770 --> 00:25:16,969 - before you paid a 50K deposit? - I know. 474 00:25:16,970 --> 00:25:18,808 Fiona, you need to tell me what this is. 475 00:25:18,809 --> 00:25:21,210 I can't, I'm sorry. 476 00:25:21,250 --> 00:25:23,930 Well, all the checks that would be done 477 00:25:23,970 --> 00:25:26,089 have already been done, so... 478 00:25:27,250 --> 00:25:29,969 Unless this is something in the, I dunno, public domain, 479 00:25:29,970 --> 00:25:32,249 that they would find out about in the next two weeks? 480 00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:34,772 And what sort of criminal conviction 481 00:25:34,797 --> 00:25:37,089 would they withdraw an offer for? 482 00:25:37,129 --> 00:25:38,969 Anything money-related, obviously. 483 00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:41,209 Please, please tell me it wasn't fraud. 484 00:25:41,210 --> 00:25:44,530 - It wasn't, I swear. - OK, progress. 485 00:25:44,569 --> 00:25:46,970 - So? - So what? 486 00:25:47,010 --> 00:25:49,409 Can you help me change the name? 487 00:25:50,450 --> 00:25:53,009 You are gonna refuse to tell me what the conviction was for? 488 00:25:53,010 --> 00:25:55,608 I can't, Mark. And I presume my brother's got no idea about this? 489 00:25:55,609 --> 00:25:56,809 No. 490 00:25:59,169 --> 00:26:00,809 OK. 491 00:26:05,290 --> 00:26:06,730 Well... 492 00:26:09,770 --> 00:26:13,010 ...even if I could do it - and as I say, 493 00:26:13,050 --> 00:26:14,929 I've no idea if it's even possible - 494 00:26:14,930 --> 00:26:17,830 but if it was and I did, I'd be putting myself 495 00:26:17,849 --> 00:26:20,608 in an incredibly compromising position, Fiona. I know. 496 00:26:20,609 --> 00:26:22,408 I could lose my licence if anyone found out. 497 00:26:22,409 --> 00:26:26,329 I know, and I'm so sorry to ask. It's just... 498 00:26:26,369 --> 00:26:29,649 if we lost that money, it could ruin us. 499 00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:33,608 We'd have to sell the house. It would be a total disaster for us. 500 00:26:33,609 --> 00:26:35,250 For the kids. 501 00:26:36,450 --> 00:26:38,569 It'd just be awful. 502 00:26:42,369 --> 00:26:44,902 And what would you do for me in return? 503 00:27:00,490 --> 00:27:02,970 Evening, everybody. 504 00:27:03,010 --> 00:27:06,249 So, we've got a fun-filled evening lined up for you. 505 00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:07,808 We've got the auction coming up, 506 00:27:07,809 --> 00:27:10,608 and we've got the band playing till midnight, 507 00:27:10,609 --> 00:27:14,889 and I've got a very busy evening trying to get round the room 508 00:27:14,930 --> 00:27:17,597 to relieve you of your hard-earned dough. 509 00:27:18,849 --> 00:27:21,609 But, before all of that, 510 00:27:21,649 --> 00:27:23,848 I just wanted to say a few quick thank-yous. 511 00:27:23,849 --> 00:27:27,530 Firstly, thank you all for coming tonight 512 00:27:27,569 --> 00:27:31,345 and paying a frankly exorbitant amount of money for a table. 513 00:27:32,609 --> 00:27:37,490 Secondly, I want to say a huge thank you 514 00:27:37,530 --> 00:27:39,409 to all the staff here. 515 00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:43,482 What a brilliant job they do, day in, day out, for our children. 516 00:27:44,129 --> 00:27:47,530 And lastly, and most importantly, 517 00:27:47,569 --> 00:27:50,770 I wanna say thank you to my son, Jack... 518 00:27:53,490 --> 00:27:55,369 ...who has... 519 00:27:57,809 --> 00:28:00,930 ...enriched my life in so many ways. 520 00:28:02,129 --> 00:28:05,809 He's taught me that I'm not the centre of the universe. 521 00:28:05,849 --> 00:28:08,889 Who knew? 522 00:28:08,930 --> 00:28:12,110 He has taught me to look for joy 523 00:28:12,135 --> 00:28:15,290 in the most unexpected places. 524 00:28:15,329 --> 00:28:19,290 And he has... 525 00:28:19,329 --> 00:28:21,329 allowed me to find... 526 00:28:22,770 --> 00:28:26,690 ...an ease with the world 527 00:28:26,730 --> 00:28:29,530 that I never thought possible. 528 00:28:31,089 --> 00:28:33,422 And that is the most unexpected, 529 00:28:33,447 --> 00:28:35,633 extraordinary gift from him. 530 00:28:36,930 --> 00:28:39,169 So, to Jack, 531 00:28:39,210 --> 00:28:42,609 and to all our children, we celebrate you. 532 00:28:42,649 --> 00:28:46,490 And to the rest of you, we are coming for your wallets! 533 00:29:00,010 --> 00:29:01,608 What do you know about it? 534 00:29:01,609 --> 00:29:04,450 About the same as most people, I guess. 535 00:29:04,490 --> 00:29:07,209 You haven't gone online and researched the fuck out of it? 536 00:29:07,210 --> 00:29:10,089 No, I knew you'd take care of that. 537 00:29:10,129 --> 00:29:11,569 Fair enough. 538 00:29:12,809 --> 00:29:15,009 OK, so here's what I found out, then. 539 00:29:15,010 --> 00:29:16,662 I found out that, actually, 540 00:29:16,687 --> 00:29:19,194 a kid with Down's is not so different. 541 00:29:20,369 --> 00:29:22,689 There might be some physical health things, 542 00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:26,649 they might take a little longer to do certain things, 543 00:29:26,690 --> 00:29:28,888 there might be a few other challenges along the way, 544 00:29:28,889 --> 00:29:31,556 but, actually, life can be pretty normal. 545 00:29:33,930 --> 00:29:35,889 But here's the thing, Ram. 546 00:29:37,930 --> 00:29:41,002 Pretty normal's not what I dreamt of all my life. 547 00:29:41,649 --> 00:29:44,250 Pretty normal's not what I want. 548 00:29:44,290 --> 00:29:48,569 What I want is actual normal. 549 00:29:48,609 --> 00:29:52,009 I want a child that does all the boring, ordinary things 550 00:29:52,010 --> 00:29:53,649 that other kids do, 551 00:29:53,690 --> 00:29:55,929 not one who attracts well-meaning smiles and, 552 00:29:55,930 --> 00:29:58,530 "Haven't they done well, considering?" 553 00:29:58,569 --> 00:30:02,568 I want a child that behaves appallingly when they're a teenager, 554 00:30:02,569 --> 00:30:05,489 gets pissed too young and takes drugs and scares us 555 00:30:05,490 --> 00:30:08,169 and then becomes nice again in their 20s. 556 00:30:08,210 --> 00:30:12,649 I want another life for us, when they're 18 and they leave home. 557 00:30:16,210 --> 00:30:17,849 I want grandkids. 558 00:30:18,889 --> 00:30:22,889 And I am so aware this makes me sound absolutely appalling. 559 00:30:22,930 --> 00:30:24,648 It doesn't make you sound appalling. 560 00:30:24,649 --> 00:30:27,382 But I'm just trying to be honest with you. 561 00:30:28,970 --> 00:30:32,408 I don't think I'm a good enough person to go on that journey. 562 00:30:32,409 --> 00:30:34,010 And, truthfully... 563 00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:37,449 ...I think I would resent that life. 564 00:30:37,450 --> 00:30:40,350 And I'm sure that's a pretty normal reaction. 565 00:30:43,089 --> 00:30:44,409 Was it yours? 566 00:30:46,809 --> 00:30:48,329 No. 567 00:30:53,169 --> 00:30:54,409 So... 568 00:30:54,450 --> 00:30:57,050 If we found out tomorrow, unequivocally, 569 00:30:57,089 --> 00:30:59,809 that he or she had Down's, 570 00:30:59,849 --> 00:31:01,729 I'd wanna go ahead with the pregnancy. 571 00:31:01,730 --> 00:31:03,929 I mean, in the end, I think it has to be your decision, 572 00:31:03,930 --> 00:31:08,250 but if it was down to me, then, yeah, I would go ahead. 573 00:31:08,290 --> 00:31:09,889 No doubts at all? 574 00:31:09,930 --> 00:31:11,649 No, not really. 575 00:31:14,050 --> 00:31:16,568 I just know that when the doctor said there was an issue, 576 00:31:16,569 --> 00:31:18,930 it never made me want to end it. 577 00:31:18,970 --> 00:31:21,648 I guess you'll have to go with your gut instincts. 578 00:31:21,649 --> 00:31:24,657 I just knew I hated the idea of stopping a life, 579 00:31:24,690 --> 00:31:27,209 just because it wasn't the perceived idea of perfect. 580 00:31:27,210 --> 00:31:29,810 I mean, what the fuck is perfect anyway? 581 00:31:32,809 --> 00:31:35,106 There's a crack in everything, Anna. 582 00:31:35,131 --> 00:31:36,993 That's how the light gets in. 583 00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:41,929 And were they as generous as you hoped? 584 00:31:41,930 --> 00:31:44,210 Yeah, they were. 585 00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:46,849 - Well, that's lovely. - It was... 586 00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:49,890 It was life-affirming. 587 00:32:05,730 --> 00:32:07,168 Change of plan, Claire. 588 00:32:07,169 --> 00:32:08,808 I've got no appointments this morning, 589 00:32:08,809 --> 00:32:11,009 so I'm gonna go to Aldercroft, help them clean up. 590 00:32:11,010 --> 00:32:13,410 - Be a couple of hours. - No worries. 591 00:32:21,210 --> 00:32:22,890 Hi, DCI Cassie Stuart. 592 00:32:57,770 --> 00:33:00,670 DI Khan, Bishop Street, looking for DCI Sidhu. 593 00:33:06,770 --> 00:33:08,648 - Sidhu. - Oh, good afternoon, sir. 594 00:33:08,649 --> 00:33:11,689 I've got a detective here from Bishop Street nick. 595 00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:13,088 He'd like to talk to you 596 00:33:13,089 --> 00:33:15,289 in connection with a murder investigation. 597 00:33:15,290 --> 00:33:17,129 Historical, apparently. 598 00:33:21,225 --> 00:33:22,903 Can you pass me one of those chairs? 599 00:33:22,904 --> 00:33:26,184 Jack, over here. You are good. Very good. 600 00:33:26,225 --> 00:33:28,465 - Mr Barton? - Hello. 601 00:33:28,505 --> 00:33:29,943 Tracked you down at last. 602 00:33:29,944 --> 00:33:31,624 DCI Cassie Stuart. 603 00:33:31,664 --> 00:33:34,024 I'm investigating an historic murder, 604 00:33:34,025 --> 00:33:36,925 and I wonder if you had time for a quick chat? 605 00:33:37,065 --> 00:33:38,584 Er... Yeah. 606 00:33:38,624 --> 00:33:40,104 Yeah, yeah. 607 00:33:40,144 --> 00:33:41,984 Jack, do you want to go over to them? 608 00:33:41,985 --> 00:33:43,863 I'll be back in a minute. Go to the girls. 609 00:33:43,864 --> 00:33:47,640 I'll be back in a couple of minutes. Straight through there. 610 00:33:54,904 --> 00:33:56,504 - Morning. - DI Khan. 611 00:33:57,544 --> 00:33:59,424 Thank you. 612 00:33:59,464 --> 00:34:02,665 So, this has to be a first. 613 00:34:02,705 --> 00:34:05,304 - What is? - Two of us in the same building. 614 00:34:05,305 --> 00:34:06,745 Fuck me. 615 00:34:06,785 --> 00:34:08,904 Wonders will never cease. 616 00:34:08,944 --> 00:34:11,344 Ah, right, yes, indeed. 617 00:34:11,384 --> 00:34:13,664 Have we met before? I feel like we've met before. 618 00:34:13,665 --> 00:34:15,345 No, I don't think so. 619 00:34:15,384 --> 00:34:17,903 Maybe at a BPA bash? Your face looks familiar. 620 00:34:17,904 --> 00:34:19,863 I'm not a member of the BPA, so... 621 00:34:19,864 --> 00:34:23,544 Oh, OK, interesting. 622 00:34:24,745 --> 00:34:27,424 Anyway, how can I help you? 623 00:34:27,464 --> 00:34:32,064 So, I'm part of a team that's investigating an historical murder, 624 00:34:32,105 --> 00:34:34,383 we're just following up on preliminary leads, 625 00:34:34,384 --> 00:34:36,903 and we think you can help us throw some light 626 00:34:36,904 --> 00:34:39,704 on the events of an evening, some 30 years ago, 627 00:34:39,705 --> 00:34:41,304 connected to the victim's death. 628 00:34:41,305 --> 00:34:44,503 30 years ago? Don't think I was even a police officer 30 years ago. 629 00:34:44,504 --> 00:34:46,144 I certainly wasn't a detective. 630 00:34:46,145 --> 00:34:48,705 Sorry, that's a misunderstanding. 631 00:34:48,745 --> 00:34:52,503 It's not a case that you have any connection with as an officer, 632 00:34:52,504 --> 00:34:55,824 it was when you were a civilian. A police probationer, actually. 633 00:34:55,825 --> 00:34:58,944 As a possible witness to a crime? 634 00:34:58,984 --> 00:35:01,145 We hope so. 635 00:35:02,984 --> 00:35:05,145 Yeah, we're done. 636 00:35:05,185 --> 00:35:08,423 I'm sorry? You want to interview me, we do it with a brief. 637 00:35:08,424 --> 00:35:12,072 DCI Sidhu... I would have expected better of you, DI Khan. 638 00:35:15,265 --> 00:35:18,065 Or maybe you're just one of their coconuts. 639 00:35:19,864 --> 00:35:21,224 I'll be in touch. 640 00:35:22,464 --> 00:35:26,816 And whoever sent you from upstairs, tell them nice try, but no cigar. 641 00:35:30,024 --> 00:35:32,184 But just to remind you, this test, 642 00:35:32,185 --> 00:35:35,257 even alongside the ultrasound, is not diagnostic. 643 00:35:36,544 --> 00:35:39,444 For a diagnosis, you'd need an amniocentesis. 644 00:35:41,825 --> 00:35:43,343 Obviously, I'm sure you're aware, 645 00:35:43,344 --> 00:35:46,211 that does carry a small risk of miscarriage. 646 00:35:49,705 --> 00:35:52,225 Would you offer me a NIPT test? 647 00:35:54,384 --> 00:35:57,503 Jenny calls it as she sees it, which can be irritating. 648 00:35:57,504 --> 00:36:01,343 Sometimes, she struggles to understand other people's feelings. 649 00:36:01,344 --> 00:36:06,145 But she's funny and clever, and loving. 650 00:36:06,185 --> 00:36:09,024 Good. You're a lucky man. 651 00:36:09,064 --> 00:36:10,585 Yes, I am. 652 00:36:11,785 --> 00:36:15,265 And she has nothing. In monetary terms, I mean. 653 00:36:15,305 --> 00:36:18,944 She has no savings, and she rents her little flat. 654 00:36:20,344 --> 00:36:21,665 And... 655 00:36:22,944 --> 00:36:26,424 Well... given what I know that she'll be doing for me 656 00:36:26,464 --> 00:36:28,305 in the next year or so, 657 00:36:28,344 --> 00:36:31,265 it felt like a small... 658 00:36:31,305 --> 00:36:33,064 erm... 659 00:36:33,105 --> 00:36:34,903 - Oh, arsing bollocks. - Recompense? 660 00:36:34,904 --> 00:36:37,943 Recompense. Exactly, yes. Recompense. Thanks, Adam. 661 00:36:37,944 --> 00:36:41,544 I get it, Grandad. Don't worry, I understand. 662 00:36:46,265 --> 00:36:48,665 Well, I knew you would. Thanks, Adam. 663 00:36:49,785 --> 00:36:52,384 So, good health. 664 00:36:52,424 --> 00:36:57,665 Oh, I'm afraid that ship's already left the port. To youth. 665 00:37:04,344 --> 00:37:06,344 No. Sorry, no. 666 00:37:06,384 --> 00:37:08,305 As I say, I do remember Rob. 667 00:37:08,344 --> 00:37:10,664 And that night, of course. How could you not? 668 00:37:10,665 --> 00:37:12,585 But not this lad. 669 00:37:12,625 --> 00:37:16,144 And you have no recollection of Mr Fogerty stopping the car 670 00:37:16,145 --> 00:37:18,104 at any point before he was pulled over? 671 00:37:18,105 --> 00:37:21,864 No. But, I mean, we'd all had a few, 672 00:37:21,904 --> 00:37:24,105 - so I can't swear, but... - Sure. 673 00:37:24,145 --> 00:37:26,704 So, you only actually stayed in the force a few weeks 674 00:37:26,705 --> 00:37:28,463 - after passing out, Dean. - Yeah. 675 00:37:28,464 --> 00:37:31,305 - And why was that? - Just wasn't for me. 676 00:37:31,344 --> 00:37:34,584 I mean, I quickly realised I didn't like taking orders, 677 00:37:34,585 --> 00:37:36,584 - which is not ideal. - Fair enough. 678 00:37:36,585 --> 00:37:39,023 I dunno that I'd have been particularly good at it. 679 00:37:39,024 --> 00:37:41,757 Didn't feel I had the right sort of brain. 680 00:37:41,984 --> 00:37:43,584 Guess I'm not much of a team player. 681 00:37:43,585 --> 00:37:46,091 I think I'm more of a one-man band sort of bloke. 682 00:37:46,116 --> 00:37:46,943 That's a shame. 683 00:37:46,944 --> 00:37:49,824 You obviously do have leadership skills. I saw your offices. 684 00:37:49,825 --> 00:37:53,023 Your secretary was telling me about your event here last night. 685 00:37:53,024 --> 00:37:54,984 Was she? 686 00:37:55,024 --> 00:37:56,664 Maybe you underestimate yourself. 687 00:37:56,665 --> 00:37:58,825 Maybe. Never know. 688 00:38:00,904 --> 00:38:03,104 And did you stay in touch with any of them? 689 00:38:03,105 --> 00:38:05,383 No. No, it was just a few weeks of my life. 690 00:38:05,384 --> 00:38:08,424 29, the initial training period was, back then. 691 00:38:08,464 --> 00:38:11,224 Yeah, but in comparative terms, it's a very brief window. 692 00:38:11,225 --> 00:38:13,423 I mean, in fact, this is pretty much the first time 693 00:38:13,424 --> 00:38:16,157 I've heard any of their names in 30 years. 694 00:38:35,464 --> 00:38:37,664 Excuse me, mate. DC Jake Collier. 695 00:38:37,665 --> 00:38:39,625 Can I have a quick word? 696 00:38:39,665 --> 00:38:41,824 You was at St Bede's, wasn't you? 697 00:38:41,825 --> 00:38:42,944 Yeah. 698 00:38:42,984 --> 00:38:46,544 Yeah, you were a prefect, man. 699 00:38:46,585 --> 00:38:49,052 I was, yeah. Long time. How you doing? 700 00:38:49,064 --> 00:38:51,464 Bruv, you were a proper dickhead. 701 00:38:51,504 --> 00:38:53,625 Was I? 702 00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:54,983 And you became a copper. 703 00:38:54,984 --> 00:38:59,265 Fuck's sake, man, why would you ever want to be a copper? 704 00:39:01,585 --> 00:39:05,264 So, why would someone do that, do you think, in your experience? 705 00:39:05,265 --> 00:39:07,532 Cut the hands and head off a body? 706 00:39:08,785 --> 00:39:12,665 Usually, it's done just prior to disposal, 707 00:39:12,705 --> 00:39:14,864 to obscure identification. 708 00:39:14,904 --> 00:39:18,424 Right, and you reckon what, he just bottled it, Fogerty? 709 00:39:19,225 --> 00:39:20,665 I guess. 710 00:39:23,745 --> 00:39:26,744 You never know, do you, what someone's capable of. 711 00:39:26,745 --> 00:39:28,504 No, you don't. 712 00:39:31,944 --> 00:39:35,208 - Thanks for your time, Mr Barton. - Yeah, pleasure. 713 00:39:42,544 --> 00:39:44,745 Yeah, here he is. 714 00:39:44,785 --> 00:39:48,145 Robert Fogerty, 224G. 715 00:39:48,185 --> 00:39:51,864 Rented a space here for eight years. 716 00:40:16,585 --> 00:40:19,745 It's me. We need to meet. 717 00:40:52,585 --> 00:40:53,944 Love? 718 00:41:01,904 --> 00:41:03,825 Hey, come here. 719 00:41:12,384 --> 00:41:13,705 Liz? 720 00:41:16,185 --> 00:41:18,105 It's Fiona. 721 00:41:18,145 --> 00:41:20,024 Grayson, from Hendon. 722 00:41:26,745 --> 00:41:28,424 What are you doing? 723 00:41:28,464 --> 00:41:30,585 Are you insane? 724 00:41:30,625 --> 00:41:32,745 We need to speak. 725 00:41:35,984 --> 00:41:37,543 Tomorrow, 11 o'clock, 726 00:41:37,544 --> 00:41:40,665 St Saviour's Park, by the bridge. 727 00:41:40,705 --> 00:41:43,024 Wear a hoodie, don't drive. 728 00:41:44,504 --> 00:41:46,771 Pay for your train ticket in cash. 729 00:42:00,625 --> 00:42:05,064 He was cagey and prickly, which might indicate something, 730 00:42:05,105 --> 00:42:07,024 but I then researched him, 731 00:42:07,064 --> 00:42:09,664 turns out he's got a 30-year history of being cagey and prickly. 732 00:42:09,665 --> 00:42:10,645 At work? 733 00:42:10,670 --> 00:42:13,584 Multiple misconduct issues, an allegation of using drugs, 734 00:42:13,585 --> 00:42:17,184 one of using prostitutes, another one of fabricating evidence, 735 00:42:17,185 --> 00:42:19,863 - a load more low level stuff. - Jesus, how's he still employed? 736 00:42:19,864 --> 00:42:22,903 Cos he fought and won them all. Every single one. 737 00:42:22,904 --> 00:42:27,128 He's been very vocal about saying they were all racially motivated. 738 00:42:27,585 --> 00:42:28,903 So what was he like with you? 739 00:42:28,904 --> 00:42:31,184 Fine, until he realised why I was there, 740 00:42:31,185 --> 00:42:32,624 then he pretty much kicked me out. 741 00:42:32,625 --> 00:42:35,544 - I maybe lasted two minutes. - OK. Wow. 742 00:42:35,585 --> 00:42:38,305 Yeah, wow. How was Dean Barton? 743 00:42:38,344 --> 00:42:43,265 Open and friendly, and... rather lovely, actually. 744 00:42:43,305 --> 00:42:46,543 Although am I just thinking that because he has a disabled son 745 00:42:46,544 --> 00:42:48,543 and he does stuff for charity? 746 00:42:48,544 --> 00:42:50,944 - I give you Jimmy Savile. - Exactly. 747 00:42:52,864 --> 00:42:56,265 Bottom line, though, we've now seen all four of them. 748 00:43:02,225 --> 00:43:04,463 So, I do have agendas, you're absolutely right. 749 00:43:04,464 --> 00:43:07,544 Much as I might try and tell myself I don't. 750 00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:11,544 And we don't have any real evidence of anything yet. 751 00:43:13,904 --> 00:43:16,804 But my instinct tells me we're onto something. 752 00:43:17,984 --> 00:43:19,423 Under normal circumstances, 753 00:43:19,424 --> 00:43:21,824 I'd say that your instincts are always rock solid. 754 00:43:21,825 --> 00:43:23,504 But as you say, 755 00:43:23,544 --> 00:43:25,863 you've got a lot of things going on for you at the moment. 756 00:43:25,864 --> 00:43:28,464 I just think we need to tread carefully. 757 00:43:29,585 --> 00:43:32,704 Why don't we sleep on it, talk about it in the morning? 758 00:43:32,705 --> 00:43:34,544 I moved in with Sal today. 759 00:43:34,585 --> 00:43:36,584 It might be an idea if I turned up at some point. 760 00:43:36,585 --> 00:43:38,973 Oh, I think that might be a very good idea. 761 00:43:38,985 --> 00:43:39,785 OK. 762 00:43:39,904 --> 00:43:41,837 - Night, Sunny. - Night, boss. 763 00:44:32,904 --> 00:44:34,024 Boss? 764 00:44:34,064 --> 00:44:36,944 I have a witness who can 100% confirm 765 00:44:36,984 --> 00:44:39,585 that Walsh was being chased. 766 00:44:39,625 --> 00:44:42,305 - By? - He saw two men running after him, 767 00:44:42,344 --> 00:44:44,264 one of whom actually called out his name. 768 00:44:44,265 --> 00:44:46,463 - One of them knew his name? - Yep. 769 00:44:46,464 --> 00:44:50,665 - Any description of the men? - One Asian, one unusually tall. 770 00:44:52,024 --> 00:44:53,664 So, a chase changes everything. 771 00:44:53,665 --> 00:44:56,225 A chase suggests, at the very least, 772 00:44:56,265 --> 00:44:58,932 that his murder was in some way provoked. 773 00:45:01,745 --> 00:45:02,864 Jake? 774 00:45:03,904 --> 00:45:05,704 I've found the rest of him. 775 00:45:09,028 --> 00:45:15,028 CREDITS