1 00:00:02,438 --> 00:00:05,655 It seems I don't have two daughters, I have three. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,952 - I want to meet my father. - I'd have more confidence in your advice 3 00:00:08,977 --> 00:00:12,139 if the Prime Minister hadn't found out as soon as I did. 4 00:00:12,164 --> 00:00:14,382 I need to be sure you can stick to the story. 5 00:00:14,407 --> 00:00:16,835 Charmian Pepper has been killed. 6 00:00:16,860 --> 00:00:19,676 She'd just met a woman who was willing to confirm Peter Laurence's 7 00:00:19,677 --> 00:00:22,138 - stay in Washington. - Officially, he was paid to give a speech. 8 00:00:22,139 --> 00:00:23,290 Half a million dollars. 9 00:00:23,315 --> 00:00:26,458 British weapons killed three British NGOs. 10 00:00:26,483 --> 00:00:28,205 - We'll need a diversion. - Good. 11 00:00:28,206 --> 00:00:29,997 Don't you know how close I am to Dawn? 12 00:00:29,998 --> 00:00:32,084 People in your line of work generally like to 13 00:00:32,109 --> 00:00:33,239 jump from raft to raft. 14 00:00:33,264 --> 00:00:35,786 Every politician expects to be Prime Minister. 15 00:00:35,811 --> 00:00:37,540 I'm going to have to think about that one. 16 00:00:42,857 --> 00:00:43,953 Julia! 17 00:00:45,055 --> 00:00:47,167 - Have you seen this? - Tell me what it is. 18 00:00:47,168 --> 00:00:48,511 Tomorrow's press digest. 19 00:00:48,512 --> 00:00:51,135 - Then I've seen it. - What the hell? 20 00:00:51,136 --> 00:00:53,260 - How did this happen? - I have no idea. 21 00:00:53,291 --> 00:00:55,836 - That email was private! - I drafted it, remember? 22 00:00:55,861 --> 00:00:56,868 Did you keep a copy? 23 00:00:56,893 --> 00:00:58,891 It was sent on your private account to the chair of the British 24 00:00:58,916 --> 00:01:00,258 Defence Group. No copies. 25 00:01:00,283 --> 00:01:02,923 Then how has it been leaked to the press, Julia? 26 00:01:02,924 --> 00:01:06,163 "I assure you, Trevor, whatever noises I make in public, 27 00:01:06,164 --> 00:01:08,597 "I will always defend the long-term interests of 28 00:01:08,622 --> 00:01:10,100 "the British Defence Group." 29 00:01:10,777 --> 00:01:13,422 - Well? - What can I say, Prime Minister? 30 00:01:13,423 --> 00:01:15,102 It's that word, "noises". 31 00:01:15,103 --> 00:01:16,652 - Yes. - Did you choose it? 32 00:01:16,677 --> 00:01:18,981 - You approved it. - That's not what I asked! 33 00:01:18,982 --> 00:01:21,495 Makes me sound like a total hypocrite, saying one thing 34 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,066 in public and another in private. 35 00:01:23,091 --> 00:01:25,331 And I rang Trevor, I got him out of bed. 36 00:01:25,332 --> 00:01:28,083 He said no-one else has read it on the British Defence Group. 37 00:01:28,084 --> 00:01:30,131 He even deleted it. That's what he said. 38 00:01:30,132 --> 00:01:32,051 That leaves one possibility. 39 00:01:32,052 --> 00:01:35,033 Someone has leaked it from Downing Street! 40 00:01:35,034 --> 00:01:37,555 Now, I am looking at you, Julia. 41 00:01:37,556 --> 00:01:39,475 I'm looking you straight in the eye. 42 00:01:39,476 --> 00:01:41,843 Prime Minister, I don't have children, so I can't swear 43 00:01:41,844 --> 00:01:45,351 on their lives, but ask yourself - why would I do such a thing? 44 00:01:47,513 --> 00:01:48,703 It wasn't me. 45 00:01:49,625 --> 00:01:54,601 CREDITS 46 00:03:27,635 --> 00:03:32,051 OK. So, now I think I know who your mother must be. 47 00:03:32,052 --> 00:03:33,936 I'm sure you've done your research. 48 00:03:34,675 --> 00:03:36,979 Can't imagine you'd be here if you hadn't done background. 49 00:03:36,980 --> 00:03:39,053 You're Bella Gayle's daughter. 50 00:03:39,731 --> 00:03:40,428 Correct. 51 00:03:42,035 --> 00:03:43,303 Do you want to...? 52 00:03:48,755 --> 00:03:50,393 How is she? 53 00:03:50,394 --> 00:03:52,539 Not very happy about this meeting. 54 00:03:56,691 --> 00:03:59,030 Why did she tell you who I was? 55 00:03:59,055 --> 00:04:01,145 I had to fight pretty hard to get it out of her. 56 00:04:01,146 --> 00:04:02,553 She never wanted to say. 57 00:04:02,554 --> 00:04:04,601 She was a determined woman. 58 00:04:04,602 --> 00:04:06,265 Still is. 59 00:04:06,266 --> 00:04:07,933 She was principled. 60 00:04:09,081 --> 00:04:11,175 Even so, that's a hell of a thing to do, 61 00:04:11,176 --> 00:04:13,695 to raise a child without telling her who her father is. 62 00:04:13,696 --> 00:04:15,459 I thought so. 63 00:04:16,953 --> 00:04:20,345 I never had the slightest inkling that you existed. 64 00:04:20,346 --> 00:04:22,457 I think that's also part of the reason why 65 00:04:22,458 --> 00:04:24,725 she never really wanted to contact you. 66 00:04:26,297 --> 00:04:27,756 I wish she had. 67 00:04:28,345 --> 00:04:30,069 Do you really? 68 00:04:30,615 --> 00:04:32,233 I mean, would you have helped? 69 00:04:33,017 --> 00:04:35,449 Would you have taken me on at the time? 70 00:04:35,450 --> 00:04:37,205 That's a difficult question. 71 00:04:37,230 --> 00:04:39,234 - Why? - Would you have wanted me aborted? 72 00:04:39,258 --> 00:04:39,713 Rose... 73 00:04:39,738 --> 00:04:42,361 - No, really, I'm asking you. - I was a different man. 74 00:04:42,386 --> 00:04:45,842 - Right, is that a nice way of saying yes? - I was ambitious. 75 00:04:45,843 --> 00:04:48,658 And it wouldn't have made any difference anyway, would it? 76 00:04:48,659 --> 00:04:51,521 Bella would have got what she wanted. She always did. 77 00:04:53,778 --> 00:04:56,274 I know this is the question I'm not supposed to ask, 78 00:04:56,275 --> 00:04:58,002 but why did you do it? 79 00:04:58,003 --> 00:04:59,922 Why did you rob the bank? 80 00:04:59,923 --> 00:05:02,290 You make it sound very romantic. 81 00:05:02,291 --> 00:05:04,192 Why did you defraud the bank? 82 00:05:04,193 --> 00:05:05,899 That's less romantic. 83 00:05:06,712 --> 00:05:08,102 I was a high-flyer. 84 00:05:09,138 --> 00:05:12,446 Fraud's quite common. It's more common than anyone knows. 85 00:05:14,272 --> 00:05:16,312 High street banks try to cover it up. 86 00:05:16,313 --> 00:05:19,314 They don't want their customers to realise how easy it is. 87 00:05:19,315 --> 00:05:22,834 - But in my case they decided to prosecute. - Why your case? 88 00:05:22,835 --> 00:05:24,391 Because they dislike me. 89 00:05:24,882 --> 00:05:26,907 And I stole a little bit more, so... 90 00:05:28,312 --> 00:05:30,977 I didn't want to give you my name when we first got in touch. 91 00:05:31,730 --> 00:05:35,634 I thought maybe you'd remember the case and it might have put you 92 00:05:35,635 --> 00:05:38,262 I'd read the coverage. I thought it was pretty racist. 93 00:05:38,286 --> 00:05:39,154 Yeah. 94 00:05:39,155 --> 00:05:41,752 Who'd have thought a woman of colour would be clever enough to 95 00:05:41,753 --> 00:05:43,586 steal that much? 96 00:05:44,017 --> 00:05:45,455 What was your reason? 97 00:05:45,456 --> 00:05:48,575 The people at the top of the bank were taking great big bonuses, 98 00:05:48,576 --> 00:05:50,495 just reaching their hands into clients' money 99 00:05:50,496 --> 00:05:51,961 and calling it a salary. 100 00:05:53,015 --> 00:05:55,433 - So, it was a protest? - No, it wasn't a protest. 101 00:05:55,458 --> 00:05:56,927 I just fancied proving something. 102 00:05:57,755 --> 00:05:59,675 Proving what, exactly? 103 00:05:59,676 --> 00:06:02,028 Proving that I was cleverer than them. 104 00:06:03,405 --> 00:06:05,731 From what I've read, you like doing that, too. 105 00:06:09,165 --> 00:06:10,645 And you? 106 00:06:11,795 --> 00:06:14,195 - Me? - Yeah, what should I know about you? 107 00:06:14,196 --> 00:06:16,489 - Then or now? - Both. 108 00:06:18,061 --> 00:06:20,685 Uh, well, for many years, I... 109 00:06:20,686 --> 00:06:23,473 I used to buy the papers on the way to the Tube. 110 00:06:23,498 --> 00:06:24,521 Yeah, mum said. 111 00:06:24,522 --> 00:06:26,621 And I found myself just lingering longer 112 00:06:26,646 --> 00:06:29,575 and longer every day as I realised that Bella... 113 00:06:30,358 --> 00:06:34,260 was probably going to be the most interesting person I met that day. 114 00:06:37,462 --> 00:06:39,638 And that's how we started. 115 00:06:42,646 --> 00:06:44,988 Wait, you're meant to give your phone in. 116 00:06:44,989 --> 00:06:47,970 I'm the Minister of Justice. 117 00:06:50,390 --> 00:06:52,438 Sorry, I've kept you too long, haven't I? 118 00:06:52,439 --> 00:06:54,082 Don't be silly. You haven't kept me. 119 00:06:54,708 --> 00:06:56,590 Does that mean that you'll visit again? 120 00:06:58,134 --> 00:07:00,168 How much longer are you supposed to be in here? 121 00:07:00,758 --> 00:07:04,278 It's about two years, I think. Well, if I get parole. 122 00:07:07,094 --> 00:07:08,660 This place is a shithole. 123 00:07:09,348 --> 00:07:11,190 My friend has just died because a guard 124 00:07:11,191 --> 00:07:13,332 couldn't work a defibrillator properly. 125 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:17,270 She hadn't been trained because everything here is about money. 126 00:07:17,271 --> 00:07:20,086 They want to punish us on the cheap. 127 00:07:20,087 --> 00:07:22,567 And I want my father to do something about it. 128 00:07:25,590 --> 00:07:27,108 I promise you I'll do one thing. 129 00:07:27,109 --> 00:07:29,700 I will come back and I will not let you down. 130 00:07:30,262 --> 00:07:34,038 - That's two things. - Yeah. 131 00:07:34,039 --> 00:07:36,150 Can I ask you something else? 132 00:07:36,151 --> 00:07:37,622 Yeah. 133 00:07:37,623 --> 00:07:39,168 Will you own up to me? 134 00:07:43,908 --> 00:07:46,145 That is something I have to decide. 135 00:07:49,334 --> 00:07:51,067 Dame Vanessa. 136 00:07:52,188 --> 00:07:53,346 You sent for me. 137 00:07:53,370 --> 00:07:56,868 Yes, the minister's been making unscheduled visits. 138 00:07:56,869 --> 00:07:59,446 - I'm sorry? - You haven't put them in the diary. 139 00:07:59,447 --> 00:08:02,172 He's been going to Shephill to see a woman called Rose Dietl. 140 00:08:02,197 --> 00:08:05,679 - Do you know who that is? - It's not my business to know. 141 00:08:05,704 --> 00:08:10,554 Joy, the civil service accepts that new ministers expect to bring 142 00:08:10,579 --> 00:08:13,203 fresh blood with them when they arrive, 143 00:08:13,204 --> 00:08:16,972 but new blood needs to meet old blood halfway. 144 00:08:18,131 --> 00:08:20,353 - Am I interrupting? - Not at all. 145 00:08:20,378 --> 00:08:22,500 - Minister. - Excuse me. 146 00:08:25,025 --> 00:08:27,155 I don't mean to disturb you, Vanessa, 147 00:08:27,156 --> 00:08:29,907 but I was just looking over the draft of my new bill 148 00:08:29,908 --> 00:08:31,745 and I'm confused. 149 00:08:31,746 --> 00:08:34,387 Everything I really care about, the early parole 150 00:08:34,388 --> 00:08:36,840 - and the alternatives to incarceration... - Yes. 151 00:08:36,963 --> 00:08:39,523 It's not there. It's just dropped off. 152 00:08:39,524 --> 00:08:41,571 I don't know if I'm missing some pages 153 00:08:41,572 --> 00:08:43,561 or do I detect your hand in this? 154 00:08:43,562 --> 00:08:47,045 Minister, I know how deeply you feel about prison reform. 155 00:08:47,070 --> 00:08:47,772 Indeed I do. 156 00:08:47,797 --> 00:08:50,612 But I think it's foolish to draft provisions which have no 157 00:08:50,637 --> 00:08:53,837 - chance of becoming legislation. - Isn't that for me to decide? 158 00:08:53,838 --> 00:08:58,125 This ministry takes a certain professional pride in ensuring 159 00:08:58,126 --> 00:09:01,154 that our proposals are thought through, practical, 160 00:09:01,179 --> 00:09:04,109 destined to end up on the statute book. 161 00:09:04,134 --> 00:09:07,724 I don't see those proposals coming in to that particular category. 162 00:09:07,725 --> 00:09:10,855 I'm worried that you may be working on... 163 00:09:11,564 --> 00:09:13,844 - emotion. - Is that such a bad thing? 164 00:09:13,845 --> 00:09:15,654 In this context, yes. 165 00:09:15,655 --> 00:09:19,046 If we lose faith in the idea of prison, 166 00:09:19,047 --> 00:09:20,780 we move in to uncharted waters. 167 00:09:23,974 --> 00:09:25,126 Dame Vanessa, 168 00:09:25,127 --> 00:09:26,598 I don't know if you've noticed, 169 00:09:26,599 --> 00:09:28,844 but the government is in uncharted waters. 170 00:09:28,845 --> 00:09:30,654 Right now, we are looking at a no-confidence 171 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:31,708 vote in the Prime Minister. 172 00:09:31,733 --> 00:09:34,835 That is what I would call uncharted waters. 173 00:09:34,836 --> 00:09:39,044 I think you have been over-affected by your visits to prisons. 174 00:09:39,069 --> 00:09:41,023 There's an element of personal investment. 175 00:09:41,024 --> 00:09:43,232 Oh, yes, possibly, and possibly for the better. 176 00:09:43,257 --> 00:09:45,919 If there were more people in this place who actually had some 177 00:09:45,944 --> 00:09:48,248 intimate knowledge of what goes on inside prisons, 178 00:09:48,249 --> 00:09:51,592 - we might make better decisions. - New policies have to be tested. 179 00:09:51,617 --> 00:09:55,311 I am suggesting a pioneering trial in one or two prisons only... 180 00:09:55,336 --> 00:09:56,296 No! 181 00:09:56,297 --> 00:09:58,647 So that we see the effect, so that there is an evidential basis... 182 00:09:58,672 --> 00:09:59,764 No! 183 00:09:59,765 --> 00:10:04,057 On which any possible innovation may be based, and we make changes 184 00:10:04,082 --> 00:10:08,019 that any of your possible successors will be able to defend. 185 00:10:08,535 --> 00:10:11,895 Possible successors. I see what's going on. 186 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,850 It's foolish for civil servants not to make provision for the future. 187 00:10:14,851 --> 00:10:19,240 A future that, in your case, Dame Vanessa, you devoutly desire. 188 00:10:19,241 --> 00:10:21,698 Let me tell you, there is a reason why this country has never 189 00:10:21,699 --> 00:10:24,834 moved in to the 21st century and it's called the civil service! 190 00:10:24,835 --> 00:10:27,330 I am aware of your view, you've made that plain. 191 00:10:27,331 --> 00:10:29,954 Any time any minister comes in to office with any 192 00:10:29,955 --> 00:10:33,218 trace of passion or a serious idea for change, 193 00:10:33,219 --> 00:10:36,482 there you are in the best traditions of your calling, ready to 194 00:10:36,483 --> 00:10:40,480 throw a wet blanket over anything that might improve people's lives! 195 00:10:40,481 --> 00:10:43,961 Restore the missing clauses to the bill. That's an order. 196 00:10:45,186 --> 00:10:46,618 Is there anything else? 197 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:48,516 Yes. 198 00:10:49,188 --> 00:10:52,482 I've had a visit and a couple of calls from the director of Shephill. 199 00:10:52,483 --> 00:10:55,792 She seems to believe you have a relative in her prison. 200 00:10:55,817 --> 00:10:56,996 Really? 201 00:10:58,242 --> 00:11:00,740 And how is that any business of yours? 202 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:07,970 Thank you, minister. 203 00:11:07,971 --> 00:11:09,620 No, thank you. 204 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,682 - And how's your boss? - Bewildering. 205 00:11:27,683 --> 00:11:31,138 He was furious with me for pursuing his daughter. 206 00:11:31,139 --> 00:11:33,762 - Now he's met her, he seems full of beans. - Why? 207 00:11:33,763 --> 00:11:35,440 I have no idea. 208 00:11:35,441 --> 00:11:40,034 Does he thank me for getting them together? Does he buggery. 209 00:11:40,035 --> 00:11:42,204 For the first time ever, I feel like he's drifting away from me, 210 00:11:42,229 --> 00:11:43,260 and I don't know why. 211 00:11:44,405 --> 00:11:47,669 He's up to something. 212 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:50,607 - What about yours? - Rattled. 213 00:11:50,632 --> 00:11:52,205 She doesn't know which way to jump. 214 00:11:52,230 --> 00:11:55,140 Mind you, she thinks it's going to blow over. 215 00:11:58,502 --> 00:12:01,300 - And is it? - Oh, ask me again in a week. 216 00:12:10,342 --> 00:12:13,932 Mr De Banzie asked if we'd go in round the back. 217 00:12:13,933 --> 00:12:16,422 Of course. Any reason? 218 00:12:16,423 --> 00:12:18,612 No reason, why do you ask? 219 00:12:18,613 --> 00:12:20,264 No, I just wondered, sir. 220 00:12:21,288 --> 00:12:22,560 Security, I think. 221 00:12:29,903 --> 00:12:32,660 - They're just over there. - Right. Thank you. 222 00:12:35,542 --> 00:12:38,780 - Peter. - Adam, good to see you. 223 00:12:38,805 --> 00:12:40,220 You know Trevor's joining us? 224 00:12:41,033 --> 00:12:45,897 - No, I did not, but always happy to see Trevor. How are you? - Peter. 225 00:12:45,898 --> 00:12:49,620 Well, it seems like your tormentor is dead. 226 00:12:51,401 --> 00:12:54,740 Yes. Yes, I read about that in the papers. 227 00:12:55,703 --> 00:12:58,463 Yeah, I was quite taken aback. 228 00:12:58,464 --> 00:13:00,836 - Do we know anything more? - Do we need to? 229 00:13:02,183 --> 00:13:04,393 Well, she was still pursuing me. 230 00:13:04,418 --> 00:13:06,632 In spite of losing the case, she was still after me. 231 00:13:06,657 --> 00:13:08,164 Well, she's not any more. 232 00:13:09,897 --> 00:13:10,836 No. 233 00:13:12,475 --> 00:13:15,419 - Did you know she was in Washington? - Did we? 234 00:13:15,420 --> 00:13:16,844 I don't remember. 235 00:13:17,979 --> 00:13:21,691 Look. Peter, you once told me your motto. 236 00:13:21,692 --> 00:13:22,977 What was my motto? 237 00:13:22,978 --> 00:13:24,657 Always put the past behind you. 238 00:13:24,658 --> 00:13:27,297 That's what you said. You've lived by that. 239 00:13:27,298 --> 00:13:32,097 Yes, her death is tragic, but for you, it might be a stroke of luck. 240 00:13:32,098 --> 00:13:33,851 That's all you need to know. 241 00:13:34,683 --> 00:13:39,611 She was a drunk. Even before she died, we made a decision. 242 00:13:39,612 --> 00:13:42,747 We should have done it weeks ago, actually, after the trial. 243 00:13:42,748 --> 00:13:45,179 We've decided to close down British-American. 244 00:13:45,180 --> 00:13:48,187 We had a board meeting yesterday by conference call, 245 00:13:48,188 --> 00:13:50,363 we decided to make a clean cut. 246 00:13:50,364 --> 00:13:52,137 It's served its purpose. 247 00:13:52,138 --> 00:13:56,457 - The staff are being let go. - All of them? That's necessary, is it? 248 00:13:56,458 --> 00:13:58,299 Or else we wouldn't have done it, would we? 249 00:13:58,300 --> 00:13:59,707 But what's the thinking here? 250 00:13:59,708 --> 00:14:02,843 You're not worried that shutting it down now might draw more attention 251 00:14:02,844 --> 00:14:05,817 - rather than less? - No, it will be done quietly. 252 00:14:05,818 --> 00:14:09,115 Your trial caused a lot of unwelcome publicity. 253 00:14:09,116 --> 00:14:12,443 We've kept British-American under the radar for years 254 00:14:12,444 --> 00:14:14,817 and suddenly, we're seeing the name in print, 255 00:14:14,818 --> 00:14:16,859 and the board didn't like it. 256 00:14:16,860 --> 00:14:20,251 - But you'll start up another think tank? - Eventually. 257 00:14:20,252 --> 00:14:22,939 Different name, different personnel, same philosophy. 258 00:14:22,940 --> 00:14:25,508 Get the US and the UK as close as we can. 259 00:14:26,523 --> 00:14:28,187 It's a great shame, though, isn't it? 260 00:14:28,188 --> 00:14:29,979 I mean, we had good times, didn't we? 261 00:14:29,980 --> 00:14:31,771 Some very good times. 262 00:14:31,772 --> 00:14:34,069 Sure, I was in Washington, of course I was, 263 00:14:34,094 --> 00:14:37,413 arguing from deep experience that the only way the NHS is going 264 00:14:37,438 --> 00:14:40,078 to survive is by bringing in private expertise. 265 00:14:40,079 --> 00:14:42,912 Opening it up is sensible and humane. 266 00:14:42,913 --> 00:14:44,623 It's going to save lives. 267 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,036 But of course, I'm not allowed to say that, so I lied. 268 00:14:48,061 --> 00:14:49,755 - I had no choice. - That's life. 269 00:14:49,780 --> 00:14:52,034 I can talk about privatisation, you can't. 270 00:14:52,035 --> 00:14:54,187 As I remember, 271 00:14:54,212 --> 00:14:56,687 you took your money through a company called Stanfield Titles. 272 00:14:56,712 --> 00:14:58,438 - Is that right? - Yes. 273 00:14:58,463 --> 00:14:59,993 - In the Virgin Islands? 274 00:15:00,804 --> 00:15:01,562 Yes. 275 00:15:01,587 --> 00:15:03,922 You need to wind that up, too. As soon as you can. 276 00:15:03,923 --> 00:15:06,802 Adam, I haven't used that company in years. It's virtually defunct. 277 00:15:06,803 --> 00:15:09,676 Good, so get rid of virtually. 278 00:15:12,312 --> 00:15:16,152 Now, I take it you've seen Dawn's contribution to today's news? 279 00:15:16,153 --> 00:15:19,769 In disbelief. How could she have done something so stupid? 280 00:15:19,794 --> 00:15:23,000 - She's weak, she panics. - We always knew that about her. 281 00:15:23,001 --> 00:15:25,490 She got carried away, straight choice to make between being 282 00:15:25,491 --> 00:15:28,562 strong or being liked. She made the wrong choice. 283 00:15:28,563 --> 00:15:30,994 But even so, sending such a stupid email. 284 00:15:30,995 --> 00:15:33,042 That's what I'm saying, pure panic. 285 00:15:33,043 --> 00:15:36,818 If I can't get export licences for fighter jets, 286 00:15:36,819 --> 00:15:39,826 then I choke to death and Britain chokes with me. 287 00:15:39,827 --> 00:15:41,840 What are you just saying? You leaked the email? 288 00:15:41,865 --> 00:15:44,754 - As a matter of fact, not. - But you know who did? 289 00:15:44,755 --> 00:15:47,058 Oh, Peter, we don't give a damn who the Prime Minister is, 290 00:15:47,059 --> 00:15:48,850 we really don't, as long as whoever it is 291 00:15:48,851 --> 00:15:50,688 lets us get on with our work. 292 00:15:53,266 --> 00:15:56,978 - You look a bit uncertain, Peter. - No, it's nothing. 293 00:15:56,979 --> 00:15:59,154 If the three of us can't speak frankly after all 294 00:15:59,155 --> 00:16:01,040 we've done for each other, then who can? 295 00:16:01,041 --> 00:16:03,188 Well, there is something I should warn you about. 296 00:16:03,212 --> 00:16:03,920 Oh, go on. 297 00:16:03,921 --> 00:16:07,520 It's a technical thing, but I put Stanfield Titles in my wife's 298 00:16:07,521 --> 00:16:10,760 name, so if I'm going to wind it up, I'm going to need Helen's signature. 299 00:16:10,761 --> 00:16:13,514 There's no reason why that should be a problem, is there? 300 00:16:27,250 --> 00:16:30,190 - Joe, have you seen? - Oh, yep. 301 00:16:30,215 --> 00:16:31,571 Shark's in the swimming pool. 302 00:16:31,596 --> 00:16:33,314 Did you know she was coming? 303 00:16:34,878 --> 00:16:37,385 Fish her out before she does any damage. 304 00:16:38,846 --> 00:16:41,598 - Joe. - Gillian. 305 00:16:41,599 --> 00:16:43,572 We see you so rarely. 306 00:16:44,556 --> 00:16:47,358 Would you like to come through and talk to us? 307 00:16:47,359 --> 00:16:49,291 I should like that very much. 308 00:16:54,910 --> 00:16:58,540 Just clear this. 309 00:17:02,462 --> 00:17:03,361 Right. 310 00:17:04,716 --> 00:17:07,716 You, uh, down from Scotland? 311 00:17:07,717 --> 00:17:11,196 Yes, I came overnight, and I'm going back this evening. 312 00:17:11,197 --> 00:17:14,238 The trains are terrible. 313 00:17:14,239 --> 00:17:16,862 Yes. We've mentioned it in the paper. 314 00:17:16,863 --> 00:17:18,103 That's kind. 315 00:17:22,174 --> 00:17:24,798 Is there anything in particular? 316 00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:27,806 The decision to return to the Peter Laurence business? 317 00:17:27,807 --> 00:17:30,205 - Well, we're not returning to it. - Really? 318 00:17:30,229 --> 00:17:31,262 No, we're developing it. 319 00:17:31,263 --> 00:17:34,836 - Taking it to a new level. - You ran a story about his daughter. 320 00:17:34,861 --> 00:17:35,436 We did. 321 00:17:35,437 --> 00:17:37,278 Taking drugs in Leeds. 322 00:17:37,279 --> 00:17:40,158 Yes, the pictures were newsworthy. She's over 18. 323 00:17:40,159 --> 00:17:42,063 They are of legitimate public interest. 324 00:17:42,088 --> 00:17:46,342 It's the subject of a complaint to the body for press regulation. 325 00:17:46,367 --> 00:17:49,180 With respect, I'm not trembling at that prospect. 326 00:17:49,205 --> 00:17:52,807 Well, perhaps you should be. I've spoken to friends. 327 00:17:52,808 --> 00:17:54,535 Which friends are they? 328 00:17:54,536 --> 00:17:57,965 The consensus is we look small and vengeful. 329 00:17:57,966 --> 00:17:59,527 We look like bad losers. 330 00:17:59,528 --> 00:18:01,805 We've lost to Peter Laurence in court. To our friends, 331 00:18:01,806 --> 00:18:04,839 it doesn't look like journalism, it looks like a vendetta. 332 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,445 I think I should inform you of our plans. 333 00:18:07,446 --> 00:18:09,845 We have new information with which we hope 334 00:18:09,846 --> 00:18:12,845 - we can fight the court's verdict. - Exactly, that's my point. 335 00:18:12,846 --> 00:18:15,605 We're fighting everything at a loss, so far, of 336 00:18:15,606 --> 00:18:17,831 - 1.5 million pounds. - Well, that's my point. 337 00:18:17,832 --> 00:18:20,647 - We're trying to get our money back. - Our money? 338 00:18:20,648 --> 00:18:22,695 Yours, Gillian. 339 00:18:22,696 --> 00:18:24,125 Before she died, 340 00:18:24,126 --> 00:18:27,605 Charmian Pepper interviewed an ex-employee of British-American. 341 00:18:27,606 --> 00:18:29,045 Do I really need to hear this? 342 00:18:29,046 --> 00:18:31,685 Hasn't that unfortunate girl caused us enough grief? 343 00:18:31,686 --> 00:18:34,925 The witness confirmed that Laurence was indeed in Washington 344 00:18:34,926 --> 00:18:37,095 when he claims to have been in New York. 345 00:18:37,096 --> 00:18:41,191 Now, he got paid for facilitating access for American private 346 00:18:41,192 --> 00:18:45,415 health providers to the NHS. He'd been a junior minister at Health! 347 00:18:45,416 --> 00:18:48,234 - He sold his expertise. - I see. 348 00:18:48,259 --> 00:18:48,999 We have it on tape. 349 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,367 We collected the recording after Charmian's death. 350 00:18:51,368 --> 00:18:55,134 If it's as conclusive as you say, why have you not published it? 351 00:18:56,645 --> 00:18:58,251 I'd like to know. 352 00:19:00,071 --> 00:19:02,405 We're having to tread carefully. 353 00:19:02,406 --> 00:19:06,016 Our lawyers and insurance company are being unnecessarily 354 00:19:06,041 --> 00:19:08,801 cautious after what happened last time. 355 00:19:08,802 --> 00:19:11,441 We're also doing background on his time as a landlord. 356 00:19:11,442 --> 00:19:13,178 There are big questions as to some of the things that 357 00:19:13,203 --> 00:19:14,547 went on in his properties. 358 00:19:14,548 --> 00:19:17,326 So, if you can't get him on one thing, you go after him for another? 359 00:19:17,351 --> 00:19:19,801 - Honestly, it's not like that. - No, isn't it? 360 00:19:19,802 --> 00:19:21,671 I've never even met Peter Laurence. 361 00:19:21,672 --> 00:19:24,123 I don't know the man, but I have met his wife. 362 00:19:24,148 --> 00:19:25,312 You're talking about Helen? 363 00:19:25,337 --> 00:19:28,409 Yes, I heard her choir singing at St John's Smith Square. 364 00:19:28,410 --> 00:19:30,137 They were transcendent. 365 00:19:30,138 --> 00:19:35,095 You could be endangering the future of this newspaper 366 00:19:35,096 --> 00:19:36,537 because of an obsession. 367 00:19:36,538 --> 00:19:38,935 We think of it as investigative journalism. 368 00:19:38,936 --> 00:19:41,145 Always with the same target? 369 00:19:41,146 --> 00:19:43,385 We look small, Joe. 370 00:19:43,386 --> 00:19:46,015 I very rarely interfere in editorial policy, 371 00:19:46,016 --> 00:19:49,017 but I do not want to be known as a proprietor who carries a grudge. 372 00:19:49,018 --> 00:19:53,575 We are at the point of confirming Charmian Pepper's original story. 373 00:19:53,576 --> 00:19:56,575 That issue was settled in court! 374 00:19:56,576 --> 00:20:00,025 If you go on with this, I shall have no alternative. 375 00:20:00,026 --> 00:20:01,305 Alternative to what? 376 00:20:01,306 --> 00:20:03,212 Please don't make me spell it out. 377 00:20:05,095 --> 00:20:06,782 I hope I've made myself clear. 378 00:20:08,345 --> 00:20:11,423 I hate unpleasantness. 379 00:20:12,655 --> 00:20:13,782 Well? 380 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:18,852 There'll be no unpleasantness. 381 00:20:19,737 --> 00:20:20,940 Good. 382 00:20:33,369 --> 00:20:37,273 - Every day I wake up and read your paper. - I know. 383 00:20:37,274 --> 00:20:38,815 Well? 384 00:20:38,816 --> 00:20:42,009 That's why I wanted to see you, so I could tell you. 385 00:20:43,615 --> 00:20:45,845 We've hit an unforeseen problem. 386 00:20:49,255 --> 00:20:51,655 - Is that hers? - I'm sorry. 387 00:20:51,656 --> 00:20:53,697 Does that mean you're not going to publish? 388 00:20:55,257 --> 00:20:56,845 We're not. 389 00:20:58,975 --> 00:21:03,175 Look. My advice is... 390 00:21:03,176 --> 00:21:06,073 - take it elsewhere. - Oh, yes. 391 00:21:06,074 --> 00:21:07,615 I can get disbarred for this, 392 00:21:07,616 --> 00:21:09,986 and now you want me to go and trust someone like I trusted you? 393 00:21:10,975 --> 00:21:13,817 I've got the names written down here. Just a couple of 394 00:21:13,818 --> 00:21:15,620 editors I think might take it. 395 00:21:20,857 --> 00:21:23,033 - I had a visit. - What sort of visit? 396 00:21:23,034 --> 00:21:24,587 From my proprietor. 397 00:21:25,913 --> 00:21:28,825 She told me this is not something I am to pursue. 398 00:21:28,850 --> 00:21:29,810 Why not? 399 00:21:30,265 --> 00:21:33,465 She's lost a lot of money already, she doesn't want to lose any more. 400 00:21:33,466 --> 00:21:35,091 Is that the real reason? 401 00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:40,015 She likes choral music, she thinks Helen Laurence is a nice woman, 402 00:21:40,016 --> 00:21:44,217 maybe she wants Helen's husband to be Prime Minister. Someone got to 403 00:21:44,218 --> 00:21:45,497 Take your pick. 404 00:21:45,498 --> 00:21:46,905 She's a Scottish aristocrat, 405 00:21:46,906 --> 00:21:48,613 who knows what the fuck goes on in her head. 406 00:21:48,637 --> 00:21:49,465 She stopped you. 407 00:21:49,466 --> 00:21:52,409 She stopped me under threat of losing my job. 408 00:21:52,410 --> 00:21:53,821 That's how it is. 409 00:21:54,415 --> 00:21:56,580 You go any further, we're in the same boat. 410 00:22:10,015 --> 00:22:12,780 - Your receipt. Have a nice day. - Thank you. 411 00:22:17,369 --> 00:22:19,993 - I don't believe it. - Hello, Bella. 412 00:22:19,994 --> 00:22:22,425 You've seen her. 413 00:22:22,426 --> 00:22:24,632 - Yes, I have. - I hope you don't mind me asking, 414 00:22:24,657 --> 00:22:26,132 but I wonder if you could do me a selfie? 415 00:22:26,157 --> 00:22:28,258 Well, actually, I've just got to have a quick chat with a friend of 416 00:22:28,283 --> 00:22:29,485 - mine. - Oh, right, 417 00:22:29,486 --> 00:22:31,920 - I'm sorry to have bothered you. - No, no, it's fine. 418 00:22:32,749 --> 00:22:34,195 You're popular. 419 00:22:36,719 --> 00:22:39,132 I never thought this day would come. 420 00:22:40,367 --> 00:22:45,551 You were never going to tell me. Why not? 421 00:22:45,552 --> 00:22:48,751 Because I wasn't sure you'd be a good father. 422 00:22:48,752 --> 00:22:52,143 - That hurts. - I wasn't sure you'd even admit to her. 423 00:22:52,877 --> 00:22:54,242 You have a dim view of me. 424 00:22:54,267 --> 00:22:57,140 And I've had a long time to think about it. 425 00:23:00,539 --> 00:23:05,330 I wanted to be responsible for my own life, not depend on a man. 426 00:23:05,619 --> 00:23:08,009 - Come on, give me a drag. - Are you sure? 427 00:23:08,034 --> 00:23:09,580 I only do this with you. 428 00:23:12,571 --> 00:23:18,238 She was doing really well. Good education. I was proud of her. 429 00:23:18,981 --> 00:23:21,349 Then she... blew up, 430 00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:23,090 and I don't know why. 431 00:23:24,101 --> 00:23:29,011 She had everything anyone could ever want, but she still got angry. 432 00:23:29,012 --> 00:23:30,952 I did my best. 433 00:23:31,531 --> 00:23:33,195 But I couldn't control her. 434 00:23:35,493 --> 00:23:39,085 I saw her, and I liked her, genuinely. 435 00:23:43,051 --> 00:23:45,218 If I go public, Bella... 436 00:23:46,309 --> 00:23:49,893 then we're going to be naked in a hurricane. All three of us. 437 00:23:49,894 --> 00:23:53,989 - It's you who's well-known. - Yeah, but I'm used to it. You're not. 438 00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:56,613 The press would be all over you, it's brutal, I promise. 439 00:23:56,614 --> 00:23:58,789 You'd do that for her? 440 00:23:58,790 --> 00:24:00,830 You'd risk your career for her? 441 00:24:03,013 --> 00:24:05,381 Peter Laurence, if you let her down at this point, 442 00:24:05,382 --> 00:24:07,411 I'm never going to forgive you. 443 00:24:07,412 --> 00:24:09,451 You'll be joining a queue. 444 00:24:09,452 --> 00:24:12,780 You do this properly or not at all. 445 00:24:49,651 --> 00:24:51,500 Sir. 446 00:25:00,421 --> 00:25:02,021 Door was open. 447 00:25:02,022 --> 00:25:06,373 After three years, I've developed a sort of psychic gift. 448 00:25:06,374 --> 00:25:08,491 I'm hoping it's going to stay with me. 449 00:25:08,492 --> 00:25:12,581 I can sense when you're in the area. Close it. 450 00:25:12,582 --> 00:25:15,211 I'm sorry I haven't been in touch. 451 00:25:15,212 --> 00:25:18,277 I was shaken by what happened. 452 00:25:18,278 --> 00:25:19,875 And you think I wasn't? 453 00:25:21,931 --> 00:25:25,573 I was appalling. I apologise. 454 00:25:25,574 --> 00:25:28,051 I was rattled that night, and I wanted to tell you that 455 00:25:28,052 --> 00:25:30,181 my family had found out about you. 456 00:25:30,182 --> 00:25:31,921 Sure. 457 00:25:32,741 --> 00:25:34,875 You don't seem surprised. 458 00:25:35,557 --> 00:25:36,965 Here. 459 00:25:36,966 --> 00:25:38,540 It's the one you like. 460 00:25:48,357 --> 00:25:51,211 Now, sometimes you happen to catch sight of yourself in the mirror 461 00:25:51,212 --> 00:25:55,107 when you're not expecting it, and you go, "Who on Earth is that?" 462 00:25:56,293 --> 00:25:59,076 Maybe that's what happened to me the other night. 463 00:26:00,581 --> 00:26:03,193 Who's that ridiculous woman? 464 00:26:03,973 --> 00:26:06,021 You are not ridiculous. 465 00:26:06,022 --> 00:26:08,581 I gave up a perfectly good job in Texas. 466 00:26:08,582 --> 00:26:10,891 I'm sorry, I... 467 00:26:10,892 --> 00:26:12,451 I don't know what you're getting at. 468 00:26:12,452 --> 00:26:13,893 I don't have a trace of self-pity, 469 00:26:13,894 --> 00:26:16,531 I just know it's time for us to stop. 470 00:26:16,532 --> 00:26:18,823 No, no. There's no need. 471 00:26:18,848 --> 00:26:20,644 That's what I came around to say. 472 00:26:20,669 --> 00:26:23,153 I can handle this. I promise, it's not a problem. 473 00:26:23,177 --> 00:26:23,997 Isn't it? 474 00:26:23,998 --> 00:26:28,035 - Madeleine, we can go on. - And I don't want to go on. 475 00:26:28,989 --> 00:26:32,317 If you look at it my way, you could say I used you. 476 00:26:32,318 --> 00:26:34,877 I needed you to put me back together when I lost my son, 477 00:26:34,878 --> 00:26:39,747 but now if I'm to survive, I need to move on. 478 00:26:39,748 --> 00:26:41,695 Madeleine, I love you. 479 00:26:43,467 --> 00:26:45,413 You say that now it's over. 480 00:26:52,827 --> 00:26:56,460 I'd say gather up your things, but you don't really have any, do you? 481 00:27:26,589 --> 00:27:28,509 What does she want with you this time? 482 00:27:28,510 --> 00:27:32,221 Well, pretty soon you're going to find out. Contain your excitement. 483 00:27:32,222 --> 00:27:34,525 But since she's got herself in a bloody great hole, 484 00:27:34,526 --> 00:27:37,302 I imagine she's going to want me to dig her out of it. 485 00:27:46,707 --> 00:27:48,989 Ah, good, the Prime Minister's waiting. 486 00:27:48,990 --> 00:27:51,293 - We came as fast as we could. - No, we didn't. 487 00:27:51,294 --> 00:27:54,749 We didn't run. The Prime Minister knows Justice is eight minutes away. 488 00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:56,349 You can come in! 489 00:27:56,350 --> 00:27:58,936 You can also give me an explanation. 490 00:28:00,061 --> 00:28:02,124 You go on ahead, I'll see you there. 491 00:28:11,837 --> 00:28:15,381 Dawn, I would love to explain if you can tell me 492 00:28:15,406 --> 00:28:18,607 - what I'm meant to be explaining. - Peter, I'll put it bluntly. 493 00:28:18,632 --> 00:28:22,472 I promoted you. Any prominence you have is entirely down to me. 494 00:28:22,473 --> 00:28:23,403 Not entirely. 495 00:28:23,427 --> 00:28:26,242 So, let me ask you why you're not out there 496 00:28:26,243 --> 00:28:28,866 fighting to save my premiership? 497 00:28:28,867 --> 00:28:30,374 Oh, I see. 498 00:28:31,298 --> 00:28:32,962 Things are going that badly, are they? 499 00:28:32,963 --> 00:28:34,754 Usually you can't get enough publicity, 500 00:28:34,755 --> 00:28:37,186 you and the limelight are in some kind of permanent romance. 501 00:28:37,187 --> 00:28:39,426 Now for the first time in years, you've fallen silent. 502 00:28:39,427 --> 00:28:41,282 I heard you on All Talk. 503 00:28:41,283 --> 00:28:44,312 Your support for me was less than wholehearted. 504 00:28:44,313 --> 00:28:45,826 Do you think so? 505 00:28:45,827 --> 00:28:47,889 Maybe I misjudged my tone. 506 00:28:49,986 --> 00:28:52,077 I'm facing a confidence motion. 507 00:28:52,738 --> 00:28:54,460 From Stinking Bishop? 508 00:28:55,112 --> 00:28:59,010 - Yes. - Surely you don't take him seriously? 509 00:28:59,011 --> 00:29:02,018 He's a piece of ripe Tory gammon, but he's gaining votes fast, 510 00:29:02,019 --> 00:29:04,592 - and you're saying nothing. - I'm not saying nothing. 511 00:29:04,593 --> 00:29:06,459 You're standing on the sidelines. 512 00:29:06,484 --> 00:29:08,662 The Prime Minister's requesting more vocal support. 513 00:29:08,687 --> 00:29:12,591 - Yeah, I got that. Thank you. - I make one small error of judgment. 514 00:29:12,592 --> 00:29:14,639 A private message, that's all. 515 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,119 I was tired, I was fatigued, it was a moment's inattention, 516 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,999 viciously leaked from I don't know where, 517 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,663 and I'm facing a confidence motion. 518 00:29:23,664 --> 00:29:25,429 - You... - Me? 519 00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:27,968 You're up to your neck in... 520 00:29:29,423 --> 00:29:34,069 You lawyer your way out of the libel courts by the skin of your teeth. 521 00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:36,829 High wire doesn't do it, more like Houdini. 522 00:29:36,830 --> 00:29:39,229 You were for sale, or near as dammit, 523 00:29:39,230 --> 00:29:41,711 and you pay no price for it. 524 00:29:41,712 --> 00:29:42,788 Why? 525 00:29:43,439 --> 00:29:47,389 How does that work out? Do we put it down to misogyny? 526 00:29:47,390 --> 00:29:50,225 Could be. Could also be down to character. 527 00:29:52,911 --> 00:29:54,710 - Character? - Yeah. 528 00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:57,233 Yours or mine? 529 00:29:57,507 --> 00:30:00,399 You were always respected as a cautious leader. 530 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,149 It was your strength. 531 00:30:02,150 --> 00:30:05,468 So, when you did something careless, people got unreasonably angry. 532 00:30:07,247 --> 00:30:10,304 You just spoke about me like I was in the past tense. 533 00:30:10,669 --> 00:30:11,944 I didn't mean to. 534 00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:19,069 Can I warn you, Peter, 535 00:30:19,070 --> 00:30:21,475 lately, I've been briefed about your private life. 536 00:30:22,189 --> 00:30:25,663 - Please go on. - Specifically about your family. 537 00:30:27,407 --> 00:30:28,732 What about my family? 538 00:30:28,757 --> 00:30:31,921 About how it's larger than anyone had hitherto known. 539 00:30:33,197 --> 00:30:34,975 Larger. 540 00:30:35,967 --> 00:30:38,389 If you're talking about my unacknowledged daughter... 541 00:30:38,414 --> 00:30:39,358 I am. 542 00:30:39,917 --> 00:30:42,623 Her existence is not exactly news to you. 543 00:30:42,624 --> 00:30:44,837 My impression is that you've known for some time. 544 00:30:44,838 --> 00:30:46,877 Almost as long as I have. 545 00:30:46,878 --> 00:30:49,215 Just an instinct, I could be wrong, but... 546 00:30:49,216 --> 00:30:52,227 Yes, I have recently discovered that I have a third child. 547 00:30:52,251 --> 00:30:53,247 In prison. 548 00:30:53,248 --> 00:30:54,797 Yes. 549 00:30:54,798 --> 00:30:57,599 - She's had some bad luck in her life. - Bad luck? 550 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,007 She swindled a bank. 551 00:30:59,008 --> 00:31:02,399 She was trying to walk away with £1 million. How's that bad luck? 552 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,815 - She was angry. - What's she got to be angry about? 553 00:31:06,816 --> 00:31:09,917 Believe me, in the unlikely event that 554 00:31:09,918 --> 00:31:13,791 I lose this confidence vote, I shall do everything in my power to 555 00:31:13,792 --> 00:31:19,835 ensure that whoever is my successor showed me loyalty throughout. 556 00:31:21,437 --> 00:31:23,775 Now, I very much doubt you want the public 557 00:31:23,776 --> 00:31:26,786 to know about Rose "Ditel". 558 00:31:26,811 --> 00:31:27,929 Dietl. 559 00:31:29,957 --> 00:31:33,317 But if she is the unlucky victim that you make her out to be, 560 00:31:33,318 --> 00:31:36,127 I suggest for her sake, as well as your own, 561 00:31:36,128 --> 00:31:38,835 you think very carefully about it. 562 00:31:40,877 --> 00:31:42,491 So, Peter... 563 00:31:43,397 --> 00:31:45,491 do I have your support? 564 00:31:46,111 --> 00:31:47,475 You have it. 565 00:31:48,557 --> 00:31:49,639 Good. 566 00:31:51,437 --> 00:31:54,111 Julia tells me you're going to be on Prebble tonight. 567 00:31:54,112 --> 00:31:57,247 - Julia is well-informed. - Always. 568 00:31:57,248 --> 00:31:59,167 Well, I shall be watching 569 00:31:59,168 --> 00:32:02,117 and I shall expect to be pleased in what I see. 570 00:32:02,118 --> 00:32:05,055 You should be campaigning for me, unreservedly. 571 00:32:05,056 --> 00:32:07,340 Is that understood? 572 00:32:24,255 --> 00:32:26,367 Do you think the Prime Minister 573 00:32:26,368 --> 00:32:28,997 - can survive this? - Peter, do you have a statement to make? 574 00:32:28,998 --> 00:32:31,167 Will you be supporting the Prime Minister? 575 00:32:31,168 --> 00:32:36,863 Do you know who leaked the email, minister? 576 00:32:36,864 --> 00:32:38,900 Broadcasting House. 577 00:32:55,397 --> 00:32:57,919 - So, what was that about? What happened? - I'll tell you later. 578 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,952 One thing at a time. 579 00:33:00,863 --> 00:33:03,142 - Hello, there. Hello. - Nice to meet you, Peter. 580 00:33:03,166 --> 00:33:03,917 Nice to see you. 581 00:33:03,918 --> 00:33:07,199 How are you? How are you? Yes. 582 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,677 Good evening, tonight I am speaking with 583 00:33:09,678 --> 00:33:13,343 the Secretary of State for Justice, Peter Laurence. 584 00:33:13,344 --> 00:33:15,711 - Good evening, Sian. - Good evening, minister. 585 00:33:15,712 --> 00:33:18,888 So, I'll start off with... do you think it's possible for 586 00:33:18,913 --> 00:33:22,177 the Prime Minister to win a vote of confidence in the House of Commons? 587 00:33:22,178 --> 00:33:24,801 Of course it is. The rules are obscure. 588 00:33:24,802 --> 00:33:27,873 She may prefer to hold a leadership election within the party. 589 00:33:27,874 --> 00:33:30,689 To be honest, I haven't discussed the choice with her. 590 00:33:30,690 --> 00:33:32,911 And would you yourself be interested in standing? 591 00:33:32,912 --> 00:33:34,977 We are nowhere near that, nowhere near. 592 00:33:34,978 --> 00:33:37,409 I'm getting on with the work of my department, and of course, 593 00:33:37,410 --> 00:33:39,905 I've let the Prime Minister know that she has my full support. 594 00:33:39,906 --> 00:33:42,991 You do seem to be setting about the job at Justice with an axe. 595 00:33:42,992 --> 00:33:44,705 Ah, well, I wouldn't say an axe. 596 00:33:44,706 --> 00:33:47,791 Uh, I would hope it's more targeted, more forensic than that. 597 00:33:47,792 --> 00:33:49,377 Gardening shears, maybe. 598 00:33:49,378 --> 00:33:52,471 Some people have charged you with caring more about the criminal 599 00:33:52,472 --> 00:33:54,113 than you do about the victim. 600 00:33:54,114 --> 00:33:56,481 That is quite ridiculous. 601 00:33:56,482 --> 00:34:00,513 It is true that I am constantly shocked by the squandering 602 00:34:00,514 --> 00:34:01,985 of human potential. 603 00:34:01,986 --> 00:34:05,671 That's something I know a little bit about from my own experience. 604 00:34:05,672 --> 00:34:08,913 - And what experience is that? - I have some... 605 00:34:09,751 --> 00:34:12,673 personal knowledge of what goes on in British prisons. 606 00:34:12,674 --> 00:34:15,522 You mean beyond your professional responsibility? 607 00:34:16,471 --> 00:34:17,757 Yes. 608 00:34:18,631 --> 00:34:20,311 I've not spoken about this before, 609 00:34:20,312 --> 00:34:25,985 but I have a daughter who is serving a sentence right now, in jail. 610 00:34:25,986 --> 00:34:28,033 In fact, in Shephill. 611 00:34:28,034 --> 00:34:30,702 And I've only recently discovered that she's... 612 00:34:32,071 --> 00:34:35,841 Uh, well, let's say that I had no knowledge of her existence, 613 00:34:35,842 --> 00:34:38,593 and finding out about her has been one of the best things that's ever 614 00:34:38,594 --> 00:34:40,093 happened in my life. 615 00:34:40,711 --> 00:34:45,121 Many years ago, I had a child that I knew nothing about. 616 00:34:45,122 --> 00:34:48,513 Her name is Rose, and she and I are now reconciled. 617 00:34:48,514 --> 00:34:51,905 And she is a prisoner? 618 00:34:51,906 --> 00:34:53,441 Correct. 619 00:34:53,442 --> 00:34:55,202 JULIA! 620 00:34:56,071 --> 00:34:59,375 Most people, I think, will be astonished... 621 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,472 - What the hell is this? - By your revelation and wonder 622 00:35:02,473 --> 00:35:04,013 whether you've been forced to make it. 623 00:35:04,038 --> 00:35:07,140 All of this is completely voluntary. I'm saying it because I want to. 624 00:35:07,141 --> 00:35:09,542 He wants to get it out of the way before he makes his move 625 00:35:09,543 --> 00:35:12,102 for the leadership. Is that what he's thinking? 626 00:35:12,103 --> 00:35:14,220 With Peter you never know. 627 00:35:14,221 --> 00:35:17,222 Of course I am fully aware that this will cause a great deal of hurt 628 00:35:17,223 --> 00:35:18,780 to my family and those around me. 629 00:35:18,781 --> 00:35:21,318 I am the guilty one here, there's no question about that. 630 00:35:21,319 --> 00:35:24,198 There's also no point in pretending that my daughter committed 631 00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:27,060 a small crime. She didn't, she committed a big one. 632 00:35:27,061 --> 00:35:29,126 And does it worry you at all, 633 00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:32,192 the effect that this admission may have on your political career? 634 00:35:32,217 --> 00:35:34,923 - You use that word admission. - That many people within your party... 635 00:35:34,924 --> 00:35:37,931 You're making it sound as if this is someone I should be ashamed of. 636 00:35:37,932 --> 00:35:40,017 I don't mean that you should, however... 637 00:35:40,018 --> 00:35:42,603 I am not ashamed, in fact, quite the opposite. I'm proud. 638 00:35:42,604 --> 00:35:44,971 I'm proud of my daughter. I'm proud that she exists. 639 00:35:44,972 --> 00:35:46,507 This is the 21st century. 640 00:35:46,508 --> 00:35:50,383 I think people understand that we don't all live faultless lives. 641 00:35:50,408 --> 00:35:53,672 I've made terrible mistakes, and I've paid for them, 642 00:35:53,673 --> 00:35:56,168 but my daughter is not a mistake. 643 00:35:56,169 --> 00:36:00,334 And just to be clear, I'm saying this now because she wants me to. 644 00:36:00,335 --> 00:36:03,094 And I think it's about time that she was listened to. 645 00:36:03,095 --> 00:36:05,854 For many years, she's lived a shadow existence, 646 00:36:05,855 --> 00:36:07,944 in a good home with a good mother, 647 00:36:07,945 --> 00:36:12,915 but now, I want my daughter to be part of my life. 648 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,228 - Thank you, minister. - Thank you. 649 00:36:18,248 --> 00:36:21,094 The game's in play. What's the verdict? 650 00:36:21,095 --> 00:36:25,352 First impression, Twitter's kind of 60-40. 651 00:36:25,353 --> 00:36:28,086 - For which? For or against? - For. 652 00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:29,304 - You see. 653 00:36:29,329 --> 00:36:33,288 "Brave and honest." "Incredible television." Er... "Iconic moment." 654 00:36:33,289 --> 00:36:35,494 "Terrific courage." "I always thought he was a prick 655 00:36:35,495 --> 00:36:36,936 "and now I'm sure of it." 656 00:36:36,937 --> 00:36:40,328 - "Patriarchal swine." - I told you it would work. 657 00:36:40,329 --> 00:36:42,888 Joy's on this stuff all night, we'll see how it goes. 658 00:36:42,889 --> 00:36:46,344 It's only going to get better. You watch. 659 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,544 Well, what happened? You said you were going to the paper. 660 00:37:05,545 --> 00:37:08,014 - Are you cross-examining me? - It's all about his daughter. 661 00:37:08,015 --> 00:37:10,088 - That's all there is, everywhere. - Yep. 662 00:37:10,089 --> 00:37:12,094 How's he got this daughter he didn't know about? 663 00:37:12,095 --> 00:37:14,056 That could work either way, for him or against him, but 664 00:37:14,057 --> 00:37:16,360 one thing's for sure, no-one's talking about anything else. 665 00:37:16,361 --> 00:37:18,344 - Did the paper not hear the tape? - Yeah, they heard it. 666 00:37:18,345 --> 00:37:21,224 - So, when are they publishing? - Luke, I've got an conscience of my own. 667 00:37:21,225 --> 00:37:23,260 I don't need anybody else to do the job. 668 00:37:39,336 --> 00:37:40,380 Thank you. 669 00:37:45,814 --> 00:37:50,254 - Mrs Laurence, this is very kind of you. - Oh, it's nothing. 670 00:37:50,255 --> 00:37:52,654 I might be a poor judge of character, 671 00:37:52,655 --> 00:37:56,552 but I was surprised when you agreed to have lunch. 672 00:37:56,553 --> 00:37:59,176 Well, I'm not often in town. 673 00:37:59,177 --> 00:38:01,416 It's so sad they've modernised this place. 674 00:38:01,417 --> 00:38:03,852 It was the last decent lunch spot in London. 675 00:38:03,876 --> 00:38:04,680 Really? 676 00:38:04,681 --> 00:38:06,216 I've never been here before. 677 00:38:06,217 --> 00:38:08,776 Oh, I thought barristers specialised in long lunches? 678 00:38:08,777 --> 00:38:11,784 No, we grab a sandwich and cram facts for the afternoon. 679 00:38:11,785 --> 00:38:13,548 - Oh, I'm surprised. - Excuse me. 680 00:38:13,572 --> 00:38:14,152 Thank you. 681 00:38:14,153 --> 00:38:18,056 Yeah, it's one of the most common misunderstandings about us. 682 00:38:18,057 --> 00:38:19,912 One of them. What's the other? 683 00:38:19,913 --> 00:38:22,536 Well, that we're cynical and completely uncaring 684 00:38:22,537 --> 00:38:24,008 about the truth. 685 00:38:24,009 --> 00:38:26,504 - I never felt that. - And that we defend people 686 00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:28,054 that we know are guilty. 687 00:38:28,055 --> 00:38:30,094 In fact, we never do that. It's unethical. 688 00:38:30,095 --> 00:38:32,734 Is that why you never ask? 689 00:38:32,735 --> 00:38:35,144 Mm. 690 00:38:35,145 --> 00:38:38,484 Mrs Laurence, I think you and I got on reasonably well, didn't we? 691 00:38:38,509 --> 00:38:41,715 - Yeah, I think so. - I hope I did a professional job. 692 00:38:41,716 --> 00:38:43,720 - You won. - Yes. 693 00:38:44,595 --> 00:38:46,439 Is that what you mean by professional? 694 00:38:47,725 --> 00:38:52,077 You were courteous and calm. You had to be patient, I knew that. 695 00:38:52,078 --> 00:38:56,595 - I'd never been in a witness box. - You did very well. 696 00:38:56,596 --> 00:38:59,571 - Thank you. You rehearsed me. - Yes. 697 00:38:59,596 --> 00:39:00,735 Thoroughly. 698 00:39:01,515 --> 00:39:04,109 Juries like witnesses that aren't too certain. 699 00:39:04,110 --> 00:39:06,939 If you're overly sure of yourself, they begin to suspect you. 700 00:39:08,653 --> 00:39:11,203 - You said you were in New York. - Yes. 701 00:39:11,228 --> 00:39:13,005 - Shopping. - I said I was shopping. 702 00:39:13,006 --> 00:39:14,743 - Yes, and you went to see a show? - Yes. 703 00:39:14,768 --> 00:39:16,077 On Broadway, together. 704 00:39:16,078 --> 00:39:18,225 - The Book Of Mormon. - You mentioned the Rainbow Room... 705 00:39:18,249 --> 00:39:18,957 That's right. 706 00:39:18,958 --> 00:39:21,017 - For cocktails. - The Empire State. 707 00:39:21,042 --> 00:39:21,965 - Yes. 708 00:39:21,966 --> 00:39:23,835 The fact that you couldn't quite remember 709 00:39:23,836 --> 00:39:27,571 everything in exact detail, that added to the impression of honesty. 710 00:39:28,429 --> 00:39:30,267 An impression. 711 00:39:31,155 --> 00:39:33,617 Please tell me what this is about. 712 00:39:33,642 --> 00:39:35,219 Look, Helen, as far as I was concerned, 713 00:39:35,244 --> 00:39:36,844 this was just another case. 714 00:39:36,845 --> 00:39:39,914 High-profile, yes, but legally unexceptional. 715 00:39:40,748 --> 00:39:43,628 But now it's different because one of the parties is a senior 716 00:39:43,629 --> 00:39:46,274 government minister and another has been killed. 717 00:39:47,340 --> 00:39:50,988 - Do you know that for sure? - What I'm saying... 718 00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:53,036 it was one thing to help Peter with an alibi 719 00:39:53,037 --> 00:39:54,892 when reputations were at stake. 720 00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:56,609 But now it's lives. 721 00:39:57,394 --> 00:40:00,204 Also, he's now confessing to a daughter from an affair long 722 00:40:00,205 --> 00:40:04,474 ago, so I can only imagine how painful that is for you, 723 00:40:04,475 --> 00:40:08,716 - what you're going through. - Did you have a childhood sweetheart? 724 00:40:08,717 --> 00:40:13,400 - Yes. I haven't seen him in years. - I stayed with my sweetheart. 725 00:40:14,924 --> 00:40:18,244 I have a memory of him as he was then. 726 00:40:20,236 --> 00:40:23,116 If you don't believe the journalist died accidentally, 727 00:40:23,117 --> 00:40:24,524 then you should prove it. 728 00:40:24,525 --> 00:40:27,276 Helen, I don't think you've wholly understood just how serious 729 00:40:27,277 --> 00:40:29,074 this stuff is. 730 00:40:29,075 --> 00:40:31,486 I've understood perfectly. 731 00:40:36,364 --> 00:40:37,964 But I'll tell you one thing, 732 00:40:37,965 --> 00:40:40,652 if I do betray a man I've been with for 30 years, it won't be 733 00:40:40,653 --> 00:40:44,298 because a professional advocate took me to a posh lunch. 734 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:46,954 In fact, it won't be because of anyone else. 735 00:40:46,955 --> 00:40:50,500 It will be what I decide for myself. 736 00:41:02,476 --> 00:41:04,431 This... Can I do this? 737 00:41:10,988 --> 00:41:14,555 - Have you read it? - No. Is it any good? 738 00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:17,525 - Yeah, it is. Pretty good. - Thank you. 739 00:41:20,783 --> 00:41:22,845 I watched the TV. 740 00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:26,142 Yeah, that was the point. I was talking to you. 741 00:41:27,950 --> 00:41:30,672 - How was my mum? - You know your mother. 742 00:41:30,697 --> 00:41:33,931 - She gave me a hard time. -Yeah. 743 00:41:34,729 --> 00:41:37,454 I can't believe when I get out I'm going to have a dad. 744 00:41:38,569 --> 00:41:40,931 - I hope I'll see you before then. - Good. 745 00:41:41,577 --> 00:41:43,072 You know where I am. 746 00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:46,525 Yeah. 747 00:41:47,657 --> 00:41:50,409 Is it...? Are we allowed to kiss? 748 00:41:50,410 --> 00:41:53,100 On the cheek, sir, but no hand contact. 749 00:42:36,617 --> 00:42:39,978 Mum's upstairs. She's waiting for you. 750 00:42:42,633 --> 00:42:44,617 I'm sorry you've been upset. 751 00:42:44,618 --> 00:42:47,806 She's as angry as I am. Angrier. 752 00:42:51,273 --> 00:42:54,153 You know, maybe once, I'd like you to go on television and tell 753 00:42:54,154 --> 00:42:57,993 your adoring public just how much you love your other two daughters. 754 00:42:57,994 --> 00:43:00,267 The two you had WITH your wife. 755 00:43:00,937 --> 00:43:03,923 - Lily... - You're selfish. 756 00:43:04,655 --> 00:43:06,892 You're utterly selfish. 757 00:43:08,041 --> 00:43:11,181 You've got the talk. My God, you've got the talk. 758 00:43:11,497 --> 00:43:12,969 You've got it all worked out, 759 00:43:12,970 --> 00:43:15,767 just how the people around you never stop suffering. 760 00:43:41,615 --> 00:43:45,225 You know what's odd about getting old? You're the same person, 761 00:43:45,226 --> 00:43:49,577 - and yet you're not. - Who are you talking about? You or me? 762 00:43:49,578 --> 00:43:52,655 I married a furniture salesman. I didn't a Prime Minister. 763 00:43:52,656 --> 00:43:54,505 Oh, hold on, that is a long way off. 764 00:43:54,506 --> 00:43:57,129 The whole country's still talking about Rose Dietl. 765 00:43:57,130 --> 00:43:59,497 I know perfectly well that's just you getting the subject 766 00:43:59,498 --> 00:44:01,609 - out of the way. - Believe it or not, it was also me 767 00:44:01,610 --> 00:44:04,535 trying to give Rose a life. There are two things in play. 768 00:44:04,536 --> 00:44:06,985 And the other thing, you going to Downing Street. 769 00:44:06,986 --> 00:44:08,892 Were you planning to talk to me about that? 770 00:44:08,917 --> 00:44:09,853 Helen. 771 00:44:10,415 --> 00:44:13,065 Of course I'll talk to you. 772 00:44:13,066 --> 00:44:16,535 - And the journalist that was killed? - I know nothing about that. 773 00:44:16,536 --> 00:44:19,295 - I didn't even know she was in Washington. - Really? 774 00:44:19,296 --> 00:44:22,525 Well, if I looked in to your eyes, would I be able to tell any more? 775 00:44:26,001 --> 00:44:28,579 You talk all the time about freedom, 776 00:44:28,912 --> 00:44:31,611 but is freedom really the ultimate good? 777 00:44:32,015 --> 00:44:33,869 - Helen. - Is it? 778 00:44:34,185 --> 00:44:35,913 Compared with loyalty? 779 00:44:35,914 --> 00:44:40,329 We started out together and we will end up together. You know that. 780 00:44:40,330 --> 00:44:41,986 We've always known that. 781 00:44:45,215 --> 00:44:49,175 And the Prime Minister, that is a long journey. 782 00:44:49,176 --> 00:44:52,425 That's weeks ahead, and there's so many things that can go wrong. 783 00:44:52,426 --> 00:44:54,857 Nobody becomes leader by right. 784 00:44:54,858 --> 00:44:56,712 Well, on the other hand... 785 00:45:00,353 --> 00:45:04,295 I was thinking maybe this weekend you could come down and meet Rose. 786 00:45:04,296 --> 00:45:06,290 With press or without? 787 00:45:07,145 --> 00:45:08,220 Without. 788 00:45:09,641 --> 00:45:13,056 Then, yes, I'd like that. 789 00:45:15,849 --> 00:45:16,986 Good. 790 00:45:19,369 --> 00:45:22,876 Oh, by the way, I've got something I need you to sign. 791 00:45:24,617 --> 00:45:26,857 Won't take a moment. I'll just leave it with you. 792 00:45:26,858 --> 00:45:28,535 What is it? 793 00:45:28,536 --> 00:45:31,175 It's the ownership of Stanfield Titles. 794 00:45:31,176 --> 00:45:33,215 If you remember, it's in your name. 795 00:45:33,216 --> 00:45:35,945 - Why am I signing? - I'm dissolving it. 796 00:45:35,946 --> 00:45:38,100 It's just a technicality. 797 00:45:51,817 --> 00:45:55,535 So, can't wait for tomorrow. 798 00:45:55,536 --> 00:45:57,833 - No. - She knows it's over. 799 00:45:57,834 --> 00:46:02,057 By this time tomorrow, your man's going to be making his move. 800 00:46:02,058 --> 00:46:05,220 Do you have any idea who leaked the email? 801 00:46:09,575 --> 00:46:14,409 - I don't believe it. It came from you? - Yes. 802 00:46:14,410 --> 00:46:16,265 But you did yourself out of a job. 803 00:46:16,266 --> 00:46:21,129 Not quite. Adam De Banzie spoke to me. 804 00:46:21,130 --> 00:46:22,445 Why De Banzie? 805 00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:23,975 Well, if he gets in, Peter's going to keep me on. 806 00:46:23,976 --> 00:46:25,801 I'm just jumping rafts. 807 00:46:25,802 --> 00:46:28,655 Adam De Banzie does not run the government. 808 00:46:28,656 --> 00:46:30,095 Doesn't he? 809 00:46:30,096 --> 00:46:32,020 Gosh, my mistake. 810 00:46:58,569 --> 00:47:00,601 - Good morning, minister. - Good morning. 811 00:47:00,626 --> 00:47:01,859 Morning, everyone. 812 00:47:02,735 --> 00:47:06,057 Obviously, clear all commitments. We start planning from here. 813 00:47:06,058 --> 00:47:08,937 - Of course. - How are the papers? I haven't seen them. 814 00:47:08,938 --> 00:47:11,735 Horrible. But less horrible than yesterday, 815 00:47:11,736 --> 00:47:13,545 and even less horrible than the day before. 816 00:47:13,546 --> 00:47:16,361 You're saying that in ten days they might be positively pleasant? 817 00:47:16,362 --> 00:47:17,769 It's usually ten days. 818 00:47:17,770 --> 00:47:21,417 Listen, Joy, wherever we're going, I want you to come with me. 819 00:47:21,418 --> 00:47:23,855 Thank you, that makes me so happy. 820 00:47:23,856 --> 00:47:26,289 Just doesn't feel right without you. 821 00:47:27,177 --> 00:47:28,258 Good. 822 00:47:32,105 --> 00:47:35,497 Right, better start plotting the day. 823 00:47:35,498 --> 00:47:39,575 Peter, sorry, I haven't liked to ask, I've rather assumed. 824 00:47:39,576 --> 00:47:42,409 If you are going to Downing Street, I am coming with you, presumably? 825 00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:45,865 Hey, hey, hey. Let's not jump ahead. Don't want to jinx it. 826 00:47:45,866 --> 00:47:48,233 This is just the start of the campaign. There's a long 827 00:47:48,234 --> 00:47:51,695 - way to go. - No, it's just, I was speaking to Julia 828 00:47:51,696 --> 00:47:54,157 - and she did mention... - Mention what? 829 00:47:55,415 --> 00:47:57,680 You'd had a word with her already. 830 00:47:58,665 --> 00:48:01,220 Yeah. You should probably take that up with her. 831 00:48:12,233 --> 00:48:14,260 Shut the door. 832 00:48:21,769 --> 00:48:23,829 I haven't read anything. 833 00:48:26,057 --> 00:48:28,007 - No. - In the paper. What's happening? 834 00:48:28,032 --> 00:48:29,366 - It all fell apart. - Why? 835 00:48:29,391 --> 00:48:30,211 You really want to know? 836 00:48:30,235 --> 00:48:31,817 Don't you think you owe me an explanation? 837 00:48:31,818 --> 00:48:33,695 I don't owe you anything. 838 00:48:33,696 --> 00:48:34,718 So, what's that? 839 00:48:34,743 --> 00:48:37,014 I want a precis by closing time, with bullet points. 840 00:48:38,921 --> 00:48:42,455 - You went to see Lapidus. - Yes. 841 00:48:42,456 --> 00:48:44,745 - You're right. - How was he? 842 00:48:44,746 --> 00:48:48,137 He's scared of losing his job. He's been told to kill the story. 843 00:48:48,138 --> 00:48:50,255 - Told by who? - By whom. By whom. 844 00:48:50,256 --> 00:48:52,895 It's English, if you want to be a lawyer. Well, what can I tell you? 845 00:48:52,896 --> 00:48:56,137 He has changed his mind, he doesn't want to proceed, he's been leant on. 846 00:48:56,138 --> 00:48:58,655 - So, we just leave it? - Luke, whistle-blowing isn't romantic. 847 00:48:58,656 --> 00:49:00,169 It's more like suicide. 848 00:49:00,170 --> 00:49:01,961 If I go hawking this stuff around, I'm going 849 00:49:01,962 --> 00:49:03,817 to be thrown out of Chambers, I'll be finished. 850 00:49:03,818 --> 00:49:06,249 - And please tell me, for what? - To see justice done. 851 00:49:06,250 --> 00:49:08,105 OK, Luke, maybe you don't want to be a lawyer. 852 00:49:08,106 --> 00:49:10,921 Because for all I know, you want to burn your career before it's 853 00:49:10,922 --> 00:49:13,895 even begun and spend the rest of your life in the ashes. Do you? 854 00:49:13,896 --> 00:49:16,585 Because that's what's going to happen unless you learn to let go. 855 00:49:18,665 --> 00:49:20,499 I only met her once. 856 00:49:21,545 --> 00:49:24,593 And you think it's all very funny, going to meetings. 857 00:49:25,577 --> 00:49:27,858 But addiction isn't funny. 858 00:49:28,457 --> 00:49:30,825 And at that meeting and afterwards, I heard what 859 00:49:30,826 --> 00:49:34,345 she had to say about the things she's tried to do in her life. 860 00:49:34,346 --> 00:49:36,827 She was a decent person, Rochelle. 861 00:49:37,904 --> 00:49:41,522 I only knew her briefly, but I thought she was great. 862 00:49:42,985 --> 00:49:44,163 And you. 863 00:49:44,777 --> 00:49:47,375 You're going to be the first QC of your generation, we all know that. 864 00:49:47,376 --> 00:49:48,733 Fine. 865 00:49:49,775 --> 00:49:55,132 But what we didn't know, that is the only thing that matters to you. 866 00:50:03,785 --> 00:50:06,264 You were my hero, Rochelle. 867 00:50:06,729 --> 00:50:08,600 I admired you. 868 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,858 Fine. 869 00:50:12,297 --> 00:50:13,940 Admire someone else. 870 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,960 _ 871 00:50:30,985 --> 00:50:34,057 Peter Laurence is with us, and, of course, we're all worried 872 00:50:34,058 --> 00:50:35,855 it could be for the last time. 873 00:50:35,856 --> 00:50:37,897 I wouldn't say that. 874 00:50:37,898 --> 00:50:40,009 That's all in the hands of my colleagues. 875 00:50:40,010 --> 00:50:41,801 I'd never try and prejudge a vote. 876 00:50:41,802 --> 00:50:44,425 Let's just say if you don't make it to Downing Street tonight, 877 00:50:44,426 --> 00:50:46,345 a lot of us are going to lose a lot of money. 878 00:50:46,346 --> 00:50:48,265 We've all been down the betting shop. 879 00:50:48,266 --> 00:50:49,673 I'm very touched by that. 880 00:50:49,674 --> 00:50:53,735 Only eight weeks ago, Dawn Ellison was looking at a clear blue sky. 881 00:50:53,736 --> 00:50:56,777 Now she's history. How quickly did that happen? 882 00:50:56,778 --> 00:50:59,255 I think politics in the 21st-century, 883 00:50:59,256 --> 00:51:01,833 it's more volatile. Things move faster. 884 00:51:01,834 --> 00:51:04,295 That's a fact. That's just the world we're living in. 885 00:51:04,296 --> 00:51:07,175 Personally, that doesn't frighten me. 886 00:51:07,176 --> 00:51:09,705 I find that exciting, and more important, 887 00:51:09,706 --> 00:51:13,225 if I'm lucky enough to make it into Downing Street, I will enter it 888 00:51:13,226 --> 00:51:16,425 unencumbered and beholden to no-one. 889 00:51:16,426 --> 00:51:19,305 Do you think that things can keep on changing at this pace? 890 00:51:19,306 --> 00:51:21,737 Because from the outside, from where I'm looking at it, 891 00:51:21,738 --> 00:51:23,977 I don't know how you lot keep up! 892 00:51:23,978 --> 00:51:25,577 We don't have to be politicians. 893 00:51:25,578 --> 00:51:28,655 No-one forces us. We do it because we want to. 894 00:51:28,656 --> 00:51:31,710 I'm sure you do, Peter. I'm sure you do. 895 00:51:45,802 --> 00:51:48,888 _ 896 00:51:53,737 --> 00:51:57,144 Well, we did say this one was full of surprises. 897 00:51:57,168 --> 00:51:58,295 This one? 898 00:51:58,296 --> 00:52:00,009 Peter Laurence. 899 00:52:00,010 --> 00:52:03,091 Did we? Oh, yes. 900 00:52:07,625 --> 00:52:11,013 Oh, you're back! How did it go? 901 00:52:13,295 --> 00:52:16,073 It looks like you're going to be the Prime Minister's daughter. 902 00:52:16,097 --> 00:52:17,015 Yeah. 903 00:52:17,016 --> 00:52:20,041 I'll just have to put up with it, won't I? 904 00:52:20,042 --> 00:52:21,599 Sure. 905 00:52:22,775 --> 00:52:25,060 Oh, come on. Is it really that bad? 906 00:52:32,905 --> 00:52:34,697 If you think it will make any difference now 907 00:52:34,698 --> 00:52:36,105 we know who your father is... 908 00:52:36,106 --> 00:52:38,025 I know it won't, 909 00:52:38,026 --> 00:52:40,560 but it's making a difference to me. 910 00:52:42,575 --> 00:52:46,055 It's always been a position of trust, hasn't it, Sydney? 911 00:52:46,056 --> 00:52:47,732 Sorry, sir? 912 00:52:49,895 --> 00:52:52,044 Driver to the Prime Minister. 913 00:52:53,385 --> 00:52:55,279 Sure, you couldn't be closer. 914 00:52:56,015 --> 00:52:57,365 No, sir. 915 00:52:57,865 --> 00:52:59,865 But it works both ways, doesn't it? 916 00:53:00,873 --> 00:53:03,305 You know everything about me. On the other hand, 917 00:53:03,306 --> 00:53:05,279 I know a lot about you. 918 00:53:05,975 --> 00:53:07,974 I don't quite know what you mean, sir. 919 00:53:09,641 --> 00:53:13,630 I mean I'm not quite as stupid as I look. 920 00:53:29,929 --> 00:53:32,388 Good afternoon. 921 00:53:35,049 --> 00:53:41,257 All my life, I have refused to be weighed down by the past. 922 00:53:41,258 --> 00:53:45,545 I believe in the future, I believe in freedom. I really do. 923 00:53:45,546 --> 00:53:47,977 By all means, judge me by my results, 924 00:53:47,978 --> 00:53:50,735 but today at least I can tell you my intention. 925 00:53:50,736 --> 00:53:54,505 I will do anything, anything, 926 00:53:54,506 --> 00:53:57,705 to set my country free. 927 00:53:57,706 --> 00:53:59,255 Thank you. 928 00:54:11,209 --> 00:54:14,665 Hello. Hello. Hello. 929 00:54:14,666 --> 00:54:17,375 Hello, nice to see you. 930 00:54:17,376 --> 00:54:20,975 Goodness me! Look at this. 931 00:54:20,976 --> 00:54:24,585 Bravo! 932 00:54:24,586 --> 00:54:27,740 Good to see you. This is my wife, Helen. 933 00:54:54,345 --> 00:54:55,802 What's this? 934 00:54:56,615 --> 00:54:58,552 Stanfield Titles. 935 00:55:06,249 --> 00:55:10,224 - I'd hoped you'd signed it. - Well, obviously not. 936 00:55:13,097 --> 00:55:15,940 I'll be upstairs if you need me. See you later. 937 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:51,091 CREDITS