1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:04,000 _ 2 00:00:04,724 --> 00:00:08,224 _ 3 00:00:08,225 --> 00:00:11,725 _ 4 00:00:16,792 --> 00:00:20,718 Steve Fulcher was found guilty of two counts of gross misconduct 5 00:00:20,743 --> 00:00:23,951 and received two final written warnings. 6 00:00:23,952 --> 00:00:25,685 He chose not to appeal 7 00:00:25,686 --> 00:00:27,951 and made the decision to resign from the force. 8 00:00:27,952 --> 00:00:29,951 I think we should all remember that. He was not sacked. 9 00:00:29,952 --> 00:00:31,311 He chose to leave. 10 00:00:31,312 --> 00:00:33,791 There has been much speculation by Fulcher 11 00:00:33,792 --> 00:00:35,326 and, consequently, the media, 12 00:00:35,327 --> 00:00:38,429 in relation to possible other victims of Christopher Halliwell. 13 00:00:38,430 --> 00:00:39,951 We at Wiltshire Police 14 00:00:39,952 --> 00:00:42,250 made the ethical decision to maintain a position 15 00:00:42,251 --> 00:00:46,293 of not rising to these sensational and unsubstantiated claims 16 00:00:46,294 --> 00:00:49,475 because we believe this would lead to a media frenzy. 17 00:00:49,476 --> 00:00:52,951 The murder of Becky Godden has raised a number of issues, 18 00:00:52,952 --> 00:00:55,320 including the Police And Criminal Evidence Act, 19 00:00:55,321 --> 00:00:57,311 which was introduced in 1984. 20 00:00:57,312 --> 00:00:59,951 I believe that, if PACE is ethically followed 21 00:00:59,952 --> 00:01:01,951 and delivered in line with the codes of practice, 22 00:01:01,952 --> 00:01:03,896 the right outcomes can be achieved 23 00:01:03,921 --> 00:01:05,975 without evidence being inadmissible. 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,800 *CREDITS* 25 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 _ 26 00:01:42,132 --> 00:01:45,344 OK, gentlemen, I am now going to take you through 27 00:01:45,345 --> 00:01:48,561 the basic stages of the intelligence cycle. 28 00:01:48,562 --> 00:01:50,951 Stage one will be planning and direction, 29 00:01:50,952 --> 00:01:53,952 in which we evaluate opportunities and decide on strategy. 30 00:01:55,196 --> 00:01:57,196 Er, do you want to...? 31 00:02:06,716 --> 00:02:09,195 Thank you. So, that's planning and direction. 32 00:02:09,196 --> 00:02:10,328 Next, collection... 33 00:02:15,935 --> 00:02:17,935 Is this the same one? 34 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,960 Yeah. 35 00:02:24,196 --> 00:02:26,196 Christ... Do you ever get used to that? 36 00:02:28,069 --> 00:02:29,934 OK. Er, as I was saying, 37 00:02:29,959 --> 00:02:31,460 stage two is collection. 38 00:02:32,711 --> 00:02:34,389 - When? - Yesterday. 39 00:02:34,390 --> 00:02:36,710 I've told you before, don't believe everything you read. 40 00:02:36,711 --> 00:02:39,984 - It's perfectly safe. Don't worry. - It was on BBC News. 41 00:02:40,009 --> 00:02:42,008 There was a suicide bomb in Benghazi 42 00:02:42,009 --> 00:02:44,220 only about half a mile from your barracks. 43 00:02:45,622 --> 00:02:47,622 It's news to me. 44 00:02:49,616 --> 00:02:51,296 How have you been? 45 00:02:52,507 --> 00:02:54,586 I'm really enjoying it. I'm... 46 00:02:54,587 --> 00:02:56,008 ...feeling pretty chilled, actually. 47 00:02:56,009 --> 00:02:58,008 And at least I'm wanted here. 48 00:02:58,009 --> 00:03:00,519 I know you couldn't care less, but Debs Peach told me 49 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,008 Pat Geenty's retired for personal reasons 50 00:03:03,009 --> 00:03:04,831 and Mike Veale is now Chief Constable. 51 00:03:04,832 --> 00:03:07,009 I just thought you could do with a laugh. 52 00:03:08,529 --> 00:03:09,732 You know what? You're right. 53 00:03:09,733 --> 00:03:12,340 I really... couldn't care less any more. 54 00:03:15,009 --> 00:03:17,100 Well, that's all my news. 55 00:03:17,980 --> 00:03:20,008 We love you very much and can't wait to see you. 56 00:03:20,009 --> 00:03:23,008 I've got to go because I'm meeting the girls at the cinema tonight. 57 00:03:23,009 --> 00:03:24,049 OK. 58 00:03:24,580 --> 00:03:26,009 All right... 59 00:03:26,322 --> 00:03:27,322 Give them my love. 60 00:03:28,540 --> 00:03:30,009 I love you. 61 00:03:30,660 --> 00:03:32,009 Please, be careful. 62 00:03:32,676 --> 00:03:33,676 Mm-hm. 63 00:03:42,501 --> 00:03:43,534 - Hello? - Debs... 64 00:03:43,535 --> 00:03:44,556 What the fuck is going on? 65 00:03:44,581 --> 00:03:46,008 I wondered when you'd find out. 66 00:03:46,009 --> 00:03:48,008 They've finally given Mike Veale the top job? 67 00:03:48,009 --> 00:03:50,369 And he's already been talking about you. 68 00:03:50,370 --> 00:03:52,008 Blaming you for the fact 69 00:03:52,009 --> 00:03:53,799 they still haven't charged Halliwell over Becky Godden. 70 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,683 They've had years to come up with enough evidence. 71 00:03:56,684 --> 00:03:59,873 It's all wearing a bit thin, this, isn't it, still blaming me? 72 00:03:59,874 --> 00:04:01,008 Yeah. 73 00:04:01,009 --> 00:04:03,008 What happened with that stuff they dug up at the lake... 74 00:04:03,009 --> 00:04:05,349 - ...at Ramsbury? - 60 items of clothing. 75 00:04:05,350 --> 00:04:07,528 You'd think they'd have assigned a big team to it, wouldn't you? 76 00:04:07,529 --> 00:04:09,009 Oh, what...? 77 00:04:09,380 --> 00:04:11,009 They haven't done anything? 78 00:04:11,380 --> 00:04:14,008 Let's just say, apparently, there hasn't been much progress. 79 00:04:14,009 --> 00:04:16,009 They've only just put a small team on it. 80 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:18,368 And it's being headed up by Sean Memory, 81 00:04:18,369 --> 00:04:21,008 who's now a Detective Superintendent, by the way. 82 00:04:21,009 --> 00:04:22,337 Do you know what, I think I'd rather be here 83 00:04:22,338 --> 00:04:23,777 with mad Libyans throwing bombs at me 84 00:04:23,778 --> 00:04:26,008 than anywhere near Gable fucking Cross. 85 00:04:26,009 --> 00:04:28,008 How long are you out there for? 86 00:04:28,009 --> 00:04:29,849 I've got another six months. 87 00:04:31,009 --> 00:04:36,008 And don't mention anything about bombs to Yvonne. 88 00:04:36,009 --> 00:04:37,009 Please. 89 00:04:43,709 --> 00:04:44,869 Karen? 90 00:04:47,009 --> 00:04:49,009 Come on, love, we'd better get going. 91 00:04:51,009 --> 00:04:53,009 Let's at least hear what he's got to say. 92 00:04:54,369 --> 00:04:56,369 I've written an open letter to Halliwell 93 00:04:56,394 --> 00:04:59,394 asking him to tell the truth about what he did to Becky. 94 00:04:59,782 --> 00:05:02,180 I'm not expecting a response, but I just... 95 00:05:03,009 --> 00:05:05,220 ...have to try to keep her in the public eye. 96 00:05:07,009 --> 00:05:09,601 Cos she doesn't matter as much as Sian, you see? 97 00:05:09,602 --> 00:05:12,008 Because Sian was just a normal girl who worked in an office. 98 00:05:12,009 --> 00:05:13,848 A good girl. 99 00:05:13,849 --> 00:05:15,540 But Becky was a bad girl. 100 00:05:16,849 --> 00:05:18,835 A bad little girl who must have deserved it... 101 00:05:18,876 --> 00:05:22,009 - Karen - Well, I know that's what everyone thinks! 102 00:05:22,702 --> 00:05:23,702 Listen to me. 103 00:05:24,862 --> 00:05:28,667 I am convinced that, because of you, the Police and Crime Commissioner 104 00:05:28,692 --> 00:05:30,008 is pressuring Wiltshire Police 105 00:05:30,009 --> 00:05:33,009 into looking for new evidence to bring Halliwell to trial. 106 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:35,849 So, whatever it is you're doing, it's working. 107 00:05:36,340 --> 00:05:38,140 - Oh, God... - There, you see? 108 00:05:39,180 --> 00:05:41,008 Oh, thank you very much. Thank you. 109 00:05:41,009 --> 00:05:42,540 I won't give up. 110 00:06:09,009 --> 00:06:10,727 - Hi, Kev. - Hi, Elaine. 111 00:06:10,728 --> 00:06:12,009 How are you? 112 00:06:23,009 --> 00:06:24,380 Are you OK, love? 113 00:06:25,820 --> 00:06:27,700 I'm just feeling it a bit at the moment. 114 00:06:30,009 --> 00:06:31,300 It's been hard. 115 00:06:32,009 --> 00:06:34,087 You get people in the pub 116 00:06:34,088 --> 00:06:36,008 who think they're trying to be nice, rather than spiteful, 117 00:06:36,009 --> 00:06:39,008 but they say, "Don't you wish you'd gone out with her that night?" 118 00:06:39,009 --> 00:06:41,008 I ask myself that all the time. 119 00:06:41,009 --> 00:06:43,180 You mustn't think about it like that, Kev. 120 00:06:44,009 --> 00:06:47,008 She died because of Christopher Halliwell, not anybody else. 121 00:06:47,009 --> 00:06:48,580 Certainly not you. 122 00:06:51,140 --> 00:06:52,710 Is that what you wanted to see me about? 123 00:06:52,711 --> 00:06:54,300 Because that's easy to deal with. 124 00:06:56,009 --> 00:06:57,900 No, it's not that. 125 00:06:58,529 --> 00:07:00,009 Well, what, then, love? 126 00:07:02,949 --> 00:07:04,589 I'm seeing somebody else. 127 00:07:11,009 --> 00:07:13,009 - Oh. - I'm sorry. 128 00:07:15,300 --> 00:07:18,008 Listen to me, you must never apologise 129 00:07:18,009 --> 00:07:20,009 for getting on with your life. 130 00:07:20,660 --> 00:07:22,008 I feel so bloody guilty. 131 00:07:22,009 --> 00:07:23,009 No! 132 00:07:24,340 --> 00:07:25,689 Sian's not here. 133 00:07:27,009 --> 00:07:30,009 What are you supposed to do, pine for her for the rest of your life? 134 00:07:33,009 --> 00:07:35,008 It's a comfort to me that she knew what it was 135 00:07:35,009 --> 00:07:39,580 to share a life with someone, that she was loved and cherished. 136 00:07:41,542 --> 00:07:43,542 But now she's gone and... 137 00:07:45,340 --> 00:07:48,009 ...I'm glad for you that you have someone else. 138 00:07:48,900 --> 00:07:50,368 I had to come here and tell you about Emma 139 00:07:50,369 --> 00:07:53,008 before you found out from anyone else. 140 00:07:53,009 --> 00:07:54,220 Is that her name, Emma? 141 00:07:58,300 --> 00:08:00,009 Why don't you bring her to the wedding? 142 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:03,009 Are you sure? 143 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:06,595 Please. It's important to me. 144 00:08:06,596 --> 00:08:08,009 Bring her, Kev. 145 00:08:09,009 --> 00:08:11,369 I can meet her before, if you like. Take the pressure off. 146 00:08:13,009 --> 00:08:14,009 Thank you. 147 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 _ 148 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,359 And this is everything you have? 149 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,719 Well, we do have some other leads we're following up, 150 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,359 but basically, yes, it is. 151 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,359 I thought there were some items recovered from a pond 152 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,719 with Sian's boots. 153 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,359 Does any of that relate to Becky? 154 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,879 We did find some stuff, yeah. But a lot of it had rotted. 155 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,199 And we've not been able to match any of it yet to Becky's clothing 156 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,940 or descriptions of clothing of any missing persons, so... 157 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:48,199 I'd say we've got enough here to re-arrest and charge 158 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,359 - and get it to court. - Mm-hm. 159 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,302 But maybe not enough to convince a jury to convict. 160 00:08:53,303 --> 00:08:54,429 Right. 161 00:08:54,430 --> 00:08:57,164 It's all consistent with Halliwell having murdered Rebecca Godden. 162 00:08:57,165 --> 00:08:59,765 And this prostitute who links the two of them is helpful. 163 00:08:59,766 --> 00:09:02,360 But nothing actually says he did it. 164 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,260 The elephant in the room is, of course, the confession. 165 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,135 Well, that was ruled inadmissible, so... 166 00:09:11,136 --> 00:09:12,359 Wrongly. In my opinion. 167 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,359 But with a different judge, a different set of circumstances, 168 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,784 there may be a way we can get it allowed this time round. 169 00:09:17,785 --> 00:09:20,088 - How? - The key, ironically enough, 170 00:09:20,089 --> 00:09:22,719 is for Halliwell to come out and say, "I didn't do it." 171 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,640 Remember, he's never had to actually state 172 00:09:24,665 --> 00:09:25,935 a defence for Rebecca Godden 173 00:09:25,936 --> 00:09:27,940 because the case was thrown out. 174 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,771 He'll probably stay silent and just challenge us to make our case, 175 00:09:31,772 --> 00:09:33,039 as is his right. 176 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,359 But if he now tries to claim he's never met her, 177 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,865 or words to that effect, that's the game-changer. 178 00:09:37,866 --> 00:09:40,941 His confession directly contradicts this. So, it's unlikely, of course. 179 00:09:40,942 --> 00:09:43,938 Any lawyer worth his salt would advise him to keep his mouth shut. 180 00:09:43,939 --> 00:09:47,359 But if he did, that gives us the grounds to ask the judge 181 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,360 to revisit the original ruling. 182 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,559 If that happens, Steve Fulcher would have to give evidence. 183 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:56,359 And his relationship with Wiltshire Police is not great, 184 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,200 to say the least. 185 00:09:58,867 --> 00:10:00,907 It's by far the strongest evidence we have. 186 00:10:07,169 --> 00:10:09,649 Mum, don't embarrass me, OK? 187 00:10:09,650 --> 00:10:10,969 I really like this one. 188 00:10:13,031 --> 00:10:14,969 - Hey! - Hey... 189 00:10:17,329 --> 00:10:18,592 Mum... 190 00:10:18,593 --> 00:10:20,619 - This is Kev. - Hiya. 191 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:22,168 - Hi, Kev. - Nice to meet you. 192 00:10:22,169 --> 00:10:23,808 And you. 193 00:10:23,809 --> 00:10:24,968 Do you want a cuppa? 194 00:10:24,969 --> 00:10:26,649 Please, yeah. 195 00:10:34,655 --> 00:10:36,860 Elaine... This is Emma. 196 00:10:37,808 --> 00:10:39,420 - Pleased to meet you, love. - Thanks. 197 00:10:39,445 --> 00:10:41,445 Sorry it's in such difficult circumstances. 198 00:10:41,470 --> 00:10:43,510 Well, that's not your fault, is it? Come on, sit down. 199 00:10:44,009 --> 00:10:46,260 - Coffee? - Yeah, please. 200 00:10:46,285 --> 00:10:47,605 Two coffees, please. 201 00:10:52,855 --> 00:10:53,855 So... 202 00:10:54,841 --> 00:10:56,841 How did you meet? Tell me everything. 203 00:10:57,395 --> 00:10:59,780 Erm, just round a friend's house. 204 00:11:00,495 --> 00:11:02,495 We got chatting and it sort of clicked. 205 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,880 We went out a few times. 206 00:11:03,905 --> 00:11:06,545 I done her a chicken pasta and that sealed the deal. 207 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:08,940 Kev's a really good cook. 208 00:11:10,488 --> 00:11:11,488 You're not so bad. 209 00:11:11,513 --> 00:11:14,820 - She's brilliant, Elaine. - He's just being kind, honestly. 210 00:11:23,888 --> 00:11:25,888 So, how's the wedding stuff going, then, Elaine? 211 00:11:26,682 --> 00:11:29,220 Getting there. Actually, I'm just going to go to the loo. 212 00:12:20,969 --> 00:12:22,968 Christopher John Halliwell, 213 00:12:22,969 --> 00:12:24,968 I'm arresting you for the murder of Rebecca Godden, 214 00:12:24,969 --> 00:12:26,168 contrary to common law. 215 00:12:26,169 --> 00:12:27,759 You do not have to say anything, 216 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,168 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention, 217 00:12:30,169 --> 00:12:32,968 when questioned, something which you later rely on in court. 218 00:12:32,969 --> 00:12:34,968 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 219 00:12:34,969 --> 00:12:36,808 Do you understand? 220 00:12:36,809 --> 00:12:38,437 Mm. 221 00:12:38,438 --> 00:12:41,968 OK, I'm going to take you now to Worcester Police Station, 222 00:12:41,969 --> 00:12:44,488 where you will be interviewed in the presence of a solicitor. 223 00:12:44,489 --> 00:12:45,969 I don't want a solicitor. 224 00:12:46,460 --> 00:12:47,969 Pardon? 225 00:12:48,595 --> 00:12:49,820 I don't want a solicitor. 226 00:12:51,115 --> 00:12:53,340 I want to see what you have to say first. 227 00:12:56,522 --> 00:12:57,682 Who's in charge of this case? 228 00:12:57,707 --> 00:13:00,707 That would be Detective Superintendent Sean Memory. 229 00:13:00,732 --> 00:13:02,380 If... 230 00:13:02,747 --> 00:13:03,969 ...I wrap this up in... 231 00:13:04,969 --> 00:13:07,220 ...in the next few hours, 232 00:13:07,535 --> 00:13:09,215 any other charges against me... 233 00:13:10,415 --> 00:13:12,255 ...various things in the past... 234 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,740 You're talking about car thefts, break-ins, bits and pieces? 235 00:13:19,255 --> 00:13:21,580 Some more... serious. 236 00:13:22,641 --> 00:13:27,321 Will clearing this up be enough to stop everything else? 237 00:13:27,346 --> 00:13:30,346 If Mr Memory is listening, the ball is in his court. 238 00:13:32,929 --> 00:13:36,089 Get a print set up. If we can get a confession now, that's it... 239 00:13:36,114 --> 00:13:37,474 ...no need for Fulcher. 240 00:13:38,275 --> 00:13:41,915 Now, what I'm saying there, Chris, and I've signed it at the bottom... 241 00:13:43,229 --> 00:13:45,860 ...is that I lead the investigation into Becky Godden. 242 00:13:46,540 --> 00:13:49,320 I'm not aware of any other allegations against you. 243 00:13:49,321 --> 00:13:53,649 And I'm not investigating you for any other offence, apart from Becky. 244 00:13:54,228 --> 00:13:57,912 If I clear this up, I don't want you coming back every two years saying, 245 00:13:57,937 --> 00:14:00,937 "What about this? What about that?" 246 00:14:02,169 --> 00:14:05,969 This interview is about one matter and one matter only. 247 00:14:06,655 --> 00:14:08,655 But at this point in time... 248 00:14:08,969 --> 00:14:11,969 ...I'm not aware of any other allegations against you. 249 00:14:20,555 --> 00:14:21,555 OK. 250 00:14:25,361 --> 00:14:26,841 Erm... 251 00:14:27,575 --> 00:14:30,180 Actually, before I do anything else... 252 00:14:31,095 --> 00:14:33,735 ...I think I'd better get my solicitor to check it first. 253 00:14:35,388 --> 00:14:36,868 Is that OK? 254 00:14:39,969 --> 00:14:41,009 No, that's fine. 255 00:14:47,395 --> 00:14:49,395 He's got no intention of clearing anything up. 256 00:14:49,420 --> 00:14:50,780 He's playing with us. 257 00:14:51,769 --> 00:14:54,100 He just wanted to know what we've got. 258 00:15:02,455 --> 00:15:04,060 Ladies and gentlemen... 259 00:15:05,102 --> 00:15:06,582 ...my wife and I... 260 00:15:06,607 --> 00:15:08,607 Whoooo! 261 00:15:11,009 --> 00:15:13,689 ...would like to thank you all sincerely for coming. 262 00:15:13,690 --> 00:15:15,368 It really is... 263 00:15:15,369 --> 00:15:18,688 It's wonderful to have you all with us on this special day. 264 00:15:18,689 --> 00:15:21,114 And I'd like to thank the children, 265 00:15:21,115 --> 00:15:23,208 my three and Elaine's, 266 00:15:23,209 --> 00:15:25,208 for being there for us... 267 00:15:25,209 --> 00:15:26,689 ...through everything. 268 00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:28,820 And of course... 269 00:15:29,689 --> 00:15:31,100 ...I must mention Sian. 270 00:15:32,340 --> 00:15:36,688 Now, we all remember those dark days when she went missing. 271 00:15:36,689 --> 00:15:38,940 When there was nothing we could do but sit and hope. 272 00:15:42,140 --> 00:15:45,412 Yeah, we'd get little bits and pieces of information, 273 00:15:45,437 --> 00:15:48,437 but not the message that we really wanted to hear. 274 00:15:48,462 --> 00:15:50,820 That she was safe and well... 275 00:15:51,609 --> 00:15:52,609 ...and coming home. 276 00:16:08,689 --> 00:16:11,689 - What was all that about? - I asked him, Jackie. 277 00:16:12,515 --> 00:16:14,664 I said, "Please, don't talk about Sian too much." 278 00:16:14,689 --> 00:16:17,688 But he had it all planned out in his head what he wanted to do. 279 00:16:17,689 --> 00:16:19,689 He's planned everything today. He likes to be... 280 00:16:20,689 --> 00:16:23,020 ...in control. He likes to organise everything. 281 00:16:23,882 --> 00:16:27,600 - He likes to take over, more like. - I care about him a lot. I do. 282 00:16:27,625 --> 00:16:29,625 He is a good person. 283 00:16:32,689 --> 00:16:35,529 I don't want to be on my own, Jackie. I want to be married. 284 00:16:38,156 --> 00:16:39,356 I know. 285 00:16:44,401 --> 00:16:46,420 Halliwell has parted company with the lawyers 286 00:16:46,421 --> 00:16:48,688 who represented him at the first trial. 287 00:16:48,689 --> 00:16:50,688 Really? Why would he do that? 288 00:16:50,689 --> 00:16:52,688 Well, it would seem he has decided 289 00:16:52,689 --> 00:16:54,689 he wants to represent himself in court. 290 00:16:55,980 --> 00:16:57,689 Bloody hell. 291 00:16:57,942 --> 00:16:59,102 Precisely. 292 00:16:59,689 --> 00:17:02,888 So, this morning, Halliwell finally issued an outline of his defence, 293 00:17:02,889 --> 00:17:04,688 which he's composed himself. 294 00:17:04,689 --> 00:17:06,223 We've been asking for it for weeks. 295 00:17:06,224 --> 00:17:10,289 It says simply he has no knowledge of the death of Rebecca Godden, 296 00:17:10,290 --> 00:17:14,209 nor any information regarding details of how she died. 297 00:17:17,689 --> 00:17:19,689 I think we have our game-changer. 298 00:17:19,940 --> 00:17:22,018 The confession now comes into play. 299 00:17:22,019 --> 00:17:24,780 We can ask the new judge to reconsider admitting it. 300 00:17:33,689 --> 00:17:36,688 An email came through this morning from the CPS 301 00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:39,688 saying that Wiltshire Police have discovered new evidence 302 00:17:39,689 --> 00:17:41,688 against Halliwell for Becky Godden's murder 303 00:17:41,689 --> 00:17:43,553 and that he's been charged as a result. 304 00:17:43,554 --> 00:17:45,688 But in the next breath they say 305 00:17:45,689 --> 00:17:48,203 they want to try and reintroduce the confession evidence. 306 00:17:48,204 --> 00:17:49,317 You're joking? 307 00:17:49,342 --> 00:17:50,688 Well, do you want an even bigger laugh? 308 00:17:50,689 --> 00:17:52,688 If they do manage to get it ruled admissible, 309 00:17:52,689 --> 00:17:55,689 they want me to come back and give evidence at the trial. 310 00:17:55,949 --> 00:17:58,949 After all they've done to you, now they want you to help them out? 311 00:17:59,509 --> 00:18:02,509 The new evidence obviously can't be that strong, can it? 312 00:18:03,195 --> 00:18:05,195 It's not ever going to end, is it? 313 00:18:05,220 --> 00:18:06,220 For fuck's sake... 314 00:18:07,689 --> 00:18:09,728 Oh, hello. Come in. 315 00:18:12,182 --> 00:18:13,304 - Hi, Karen. - Hello. 316 00:18:13,329 --> 00:18:15,816 - Come in, sit down. - No, no, I can't stay for long. 317 00:18:15,841 --> 00:18:17,354 I, erm... 318 00:18:17,689 --> 00:18:19,688 I just came to tell you that we are hopeful 319 00:18:19,689 --> 00:18:21,688 of finally bringing charges against Halliwell over Becky. 320 00:18:21,689 --> 00:18:24,316 He's been arrested. 321 00:18:24,317 --> 00:18:26,688 We're still working to strengthen the case against him. 322 00:18:26,689 --> 00:18:29,027 But we think we can go to trial. 323 00:18:29,028 --> 00:18:32,429 - But how? - We've been working hard on the case 324 00:18:32,454 --> 00:18:35,628 and we've dug up plenty of new evidence. 325 00:18:35,689 --> 00:18:38,688 - Can we know what it is? - I can't say too much now, 326 00:18:38,689 --> 00:18:40,689 but the evidence is compelling. 327 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:43,689 There's a little way to go yet, but we're optimistic. 328 00:18:43,940 --> 00:18:46,500 Oh, that is so fantastic! 329 00:18:46,970 --> 00:18:48,888 We'd almost given up hope, hadn't we? 330 00:18:48,889 --> 00:18:52,688 I will, of course, be in touch if there's any more news, OK? 331 00:18:52,689 --> 00:18:54,688 Thanks for coming to tell us, Sean. 332 00:18:54,689 --> 00:18:56,888 Well, it's important we're all on the same page, right? 333 00:18:56,889 --> 00:18:59,300 - Well, thanks a million, Sean. - Yeah, thanks. 334 00:19:05,528 --> 00:19:07,528 Oh, Charlie, I've... 335 00:19:07,689 --> 00:19:09,688 I've got a knot in my tummy. 336 00:19:09,689 --> 00:19:13,300 But why? We've just had the best bloody news you could hope for. 337 00:19:13,301 --> 00:19:15,127 But what if it doesn't work again? 338 00:19:15,128 --> 00:19:17,528 What if another ruling goes against us or something? 339 00:19:17,529 --> 00:19:19,688 Because, if we don't get him this time, we never will. 340 00:19:19,689 --> 00:19:23,529 Always the gloomiest way of looking at it, that's you! 341 00:19:24,689 --> 00:19:27,689 Yeah, well, I've had that smashed into me, haven't I, over the years? 342 00:19:28,049 --> 00:19:31,049 There hasn't been much to be optimistic about, has there? 343 00:19:32,049 --> 00:19:34,728 Elaine, look at where you are right now. 344 00:19:34,729 --> 00:19:36,729 What are you doing? 345 00:19:37,020 --> 00:19:39,689 I mean, you've given up your job, you've even sold your car. 346 00:19:40,389 --> 00:19:41,749 Pete prefers to drive. 347 00:19:45,689 --> 00:19:48,020 It's not right, Elaine. It's got to stop. 348 00:19:48,855 --> 00:19:50,381 It's just you're not you any more. 349 00:19:50,382 --> 00:19:52,689 You don't even behave like you any more. 350 00:19:53,689 --> 00:19:56,689 To be honest, I feel like I've had the stuffing knocked out of me. 351 00:19:57,020 --> 00:19:59,688 I can't stand any sort of confrontation. 352 00:19:59,689 --> 00:20:02,688 There's just so much tension in the house. 353 00:20:02,689 --> 00:20:04,689 I feel like I've lost all my confidence. 354 00:20:15,689 --> 00:20:16,729 Thanks. 355 00:20:31,689 --> 00:20:32,689 Hi. 356 00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:33,889 Do you mind? 357 00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:42,888 I just think I'm being an idiot for coming out and helping them. 358 00:20:42,889 --> 00:20:44,688 You're not helping them out, though, are you? 359 00:20:44,689 --> 00:20:46,208 This isn't about them, is it? 360 00:20:46,209 --> 00:20:48,688 Well, they deserve to be left on the beach, with the tide out, 361 00:20:48,689 --> 00:20:50,820 looking like the fucking idiots they are. 362 00:20:51,740 --> 00:20:53,300 But Karen doesn't. 363 00:20:54,302 --> 00:20:55,302 But Karen doesn't. 364 00:21:03,588 --> 00:21:04,908 You're doing the right thing. 365 00:21:09,356 --> 00:21:11,156 Thank you. 366 00:21:37,689 --> 00:21:39,376 Here. Cheers, Aiden. 367 00:21:39,377 --> 00:21:40,689 Here. 368 00:21:42,110 --> 00:21:43,688 Thanks, love. 369 00:21:43,689 --> 00:21:45,049 We're going to go. 370 00:21:46,025 --> 00:21:47,396 Don't you think it's better to wait and face him, 371 00:21:47,397 --> 00:21:49,208 rather than doing it like this? 372 00:21:49,209 --> 00:21:50,688 I told him I was moving out today. 373 00:21:50,689 --> 00:21:52,728 Yeah, but he didn't believe you, did he? 374 00:21:52,729 --> 00:21:55,689 Look, I couldn't honestly handle him trying to talk me out of it. 375 00:21:56,689 --> 00:21:59,410 - This way, it's much better. - It's not Pete's fault. 376 00:21:59,411 --> 00:22:02,689 - I should never have married him. - So, why did you? 377 00:22:03,689 --> 00:22:05,257 I just thought, after what's happened, 378 00:22:05,258 --> 00:22:07,689 I needed someone to take control of my life for me. 379 00:22:08,180 --> 00:22:10,140 It's the worst thing I could have done, all right? 380 00:22:12,689 --> 00:22:14,689 Oh, nice one. 381 00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:25,528 Mr Fulcher to see you. 382 00:22:25,529 --> 00:22:26,688 Thank you. 383 00:22:26,689 --> 00:22:28,688 - Sean. - Good to see you, Steve. 384 00:22:28,689 --> 00:22:29,689 And you. 385 00:22:30,729 --> 00:22:32,070 - Mr Fulcher. - Hi. 386 00:22:32,071 --> 00:22:33,689 Take a seat, please. 387 00:22:34,689 --> 00:22:36,689 I see you've got a suntan. 388 00:22:36,942 --> 00:22:39,580 I see you've got Detective Superintendent. 389 00:22:40,689 --> 00:22:42,458 Thanks for coming in today. We just wanted to give you 390 00:22:42,459 --> 00:22:43,888 some background on the trial. 391 00:22:43,889 --> 00:22:46,208 Right, so, there's definitely going to be one? 392 00:22:46,209 --> 00:22:49,689 Yes. And we are definitely going to need you to give evidence. 393 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:51,689 Well, I'm all ears. 394 00:22:52,242 --> 00:22:54,688 Well, the pre-trial concluded this afternoon 395 00:22:54,689 --> 00:22:57,326 and the new judge, Mr Justice Griffith Williams, 396 00:22:57,327 --> 00:23:00,190 has ruled that the confession made to you by Halliwell 397 00:23:00,191 --> 00:23:02,688 will be admissible as evidence. 398 00:23:02,689 --> 00:23:05,688 He was quite scathing of Mrs Justice Cox, 399 00:23:05,689 --> 00:23:07,728 - who ruled against you last time. - Mm-hm. 400 00:23:07,729 --> 00:23:09,778 Halliwell tried to have it excluded again, 401 00:23:09,803 --> 00:23:11,256 based on her original ruling, 402 00:23:11,257 --> 00:23:14,531 but the new judge said that the confession was made voluntarily. 403 00:23:14,532 --> 00:23:16,688 In his view, there was no oppression. 404 00:23:16,689 --> 00:23:19,689 And to not allow it would offend good sense. 405 00:23:21,689 --> 00:23:24,223 You see, I thought I'd lost my career because other people, 406 00:23:24,224 --> 00:23:25,668 who should have known better, 407 00:23:25,693 --> 00:23:27,560 decided I'd done something terrible. 408 00:23:27,561 --> 00:23:29,688 But now it seems, apparently, I haven't. 409 00:23:29,689 --> 00:23:32,688 Look, I'd have understood if you'd told us to fuck off. 410 00:23:32,689 --> 00:23:34,689 Yeah, that was never going to happen. 411 00:23:38,429 --> 00:23:39,589 Hm... 412 00:23:40,689 --> 00:23:42,258 So, how does your new Chief Constable 413 00:23:42,259 --> 00:23:44,689 feel about me being his star witness, then? 414 00:23:50,607 --> 00:23:52,247 It's Elaine. 415 00:23:53,875 --> 00:23:55,547 Mrs Edwards, you've been waiting for four years. 416 00:23:55,548 --> 00:23:58,360 - How are you feeling about the trial? - Well, it's difficult. 417 00:23:58,361 --> 00:23:59,919 But we hope it's going to go our way. 418 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:01,823 How do you feel about Halliwell 419 00:24:01,848 --> 00:24:04,058 representing himself, Mrs Edwards? 420 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,500 _ 421 00:25:25,380 --> 00:25:29,060 When was the last time you saw your daughter, Mrs Edwards? 422 00:25:29,094 --> 00:25:31,020 December 2002. 423 00:25:32,754 --> 00:25:34,980 She would have been 21 the following April. 424 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,181 And I always thought she'd turn up for her 21st birthday, 425 00:25:37,206 --> 00:25:38,206 but she never did. 426 00:25:40,074 --> 00:25:43,820 I got a card from her every Mother's Day, without fail. 427 00:25:45,227 --> 00:25:48,227 But from 2003 onwards, I never got one. 428 00:25:49,647 --> 00:25:51,647 Becky was very petite. 429 00:25:52,987 --> 00:25:56,515 She was only 4'11" tall and she could wear children's clothing. 430 00:25:56,540 --> 00:26:00,785 You know, like, for 12 to 14-year-olds. 431 00:26:01,347 --> 00:26:03,187 She was just a child, really. 432 00:26:05,841 --> 00:26:09,801 Miss X, you have been granted anonymity today. 433 00:26:10,293 --> 00:26:13,293 I understand you have a history of drug abuse and prostitution, 434 00:26:13,318 --> 00:26:16,318 which is how you met Rebecca Godden. 435 00:26:16,343 --> 00:26:18,023 That's correct, yes. 436 00:26:18,048 --> 00:26:19,823 She was a friend of mine. 437 00:26:19,848 --> 00:26:22,168 But you have turned your life around since then 438 00:26:22,193 --> 00:26:25,500 and are now married with two children. 439 00:26:26,447 --> 00:26:27,447 Yes. 440 00:26:27,494 --> 00:26:29,860 And my husband knows nothing about my past life. 441 00:26:29,885 --> 00:26:31,725 And yet you still came along today, 442 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:33,148 even though your past could 443 00:26:33,173 --> 00:26:35,244 have been revealed to all and sundry. 444 00:26:36,034 --> 00:26:37,900 I thought it was important. 445 00:26:39,333 --> 00:26:40,333 I'm very grateful to you. 446 00:26:41,807 --> 00:26:43,127 Please, stay where you are. 447 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,360 Mr Halliwell... 448 00:26:49,321 --> 00:26:51,161 According to you... 449 00:26:53,921 --> 00:26:56,561 ...I was besotted with Rebecca Godden. 450 00:26:56,586 --> 00:26:57,586 Correct. 451 00:26:57,907 --> 00:26:59,820 Even though I've never met her before. 452 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,440 Sometimes you even give her money to stop her going with other men. 453 00:27:07,034 --> 00:27:09,300 I remember, one night, you picked me up for sex, 454 00:27:09,325 --> 00:27:11,325 you knew she was my mate and you said, 455 00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:13,460 "Don't tell Becks about this." 456 00:27:14,747 --> 00:27:17,460 Right, so I'm supposed to have had sex with you, too, yeah? 457 00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:19,300 Yes. 458 00:27:19,934 --> 00:27:20,934 Twice. 459 00:27:24,278 --> 00:27:26,278 You see, I think there's a chance... 460 00:27:26,303 --> 00:27:28,303 ...that you could be mistaken. 461 00:27:28,328 --> 00:27:30,328 So, take a long, hard look at me 462 00:27:30,353 --> 00:27:32,353 and confirm that the person you're talking about is me. 463 00:27:32,378 --> 00:27:34,378 Because this is serious. 464 00:27:34,403 --> 00:27:36,083 Is this a joke? 465 00:27:36,108 --> 00:27:39,428 I am one hundred million percent sure it's you. 466 00:27:41,674 --> 00:27:44,100 If we've had sex together twice... 467 00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:48,540 ...what colour are my eyes? 468 00:27:49,867 --> 00:27:51,100 I don't know. 469 00:27:51,367 --> 00:27:53,367 What colour were Becky's? 470 00:28:01,687 --> 00:28:04,252 We compared soil found on the spade 471 00:28:04,277 --> 00:28:07,160 in the garage at Christopher Halliwell's home address 472 00:28:07,185 --> 00:28:09,185 with a sample of soil from the field 473 00:28:09,210 --> 00:28:11,485 where Rebecca Godden's body was found. 474 00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:13,755 Becky was outside the club 475 00:28:13,780 --> 00:28:16,260 having some sort of argument with this taxi driver. 476 00:28:16,285 --> 00:28:19,645 He was shouting at her. It went on for quite a while. 477 00:28:19,670 --> 00:28:22,310 I'm pretty sure I heard him call her "a fucking slag", 478 00:28:22,335 --> 00:28:24,335 or words like that. 479 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:28,360 This row with the taxi driver, when was that? 480 00:28:28,385 --> 00:28:31,385 Er, just after New Year 2003. 481 00:28:31,410 --> 00:28:33,610 I'm pretty sure it was the 3rd, early in the morning. 482 00:28:33,635 --> 00:28:37,133 In the end, the driver somehow persuaded her to get in the back 483 00:28:37,158 --> 00:28:38,540 and they drove off. 484 00:28:39,501 --> 00:28:41,501 Did you get a look at the driver? 485 00:28:41,526 --> 00:28:43,526 Not clearly, no. 486 00:28:43,551 --> 00:28:46,551 And you never saw Rebecca again after that? 487 00:28:47,034 --> 00:28:48,950 No. Never. 488 00:28:48,975 --> 00:28:51,135 Nor indeed have we been able to find anybody else who has, 489 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,540 after that night. 490 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:56,300 Mr Halliwell... 491 00:28:57,034 --> 00:28:58,420 Do you have any questions? 492 00:28:59,527 --> 00:29:00,740 Yeah, erm... 493 00:29:01,607 --> 00:29:04,607 The taxi she drove off in, 494 00:29:04,632 --> 00:29:09,632 did it have a white illuminated sign on it saying, well, "Taxi"? 495 00:29:09,657 --> 00:29:10,657 Yeah, it did. 496 00:29:12,914 --> 00:29:13,900 Thank you. 497 00:29:14,193 --> 00:29:17,193 Because, at that time, my car did not have a light on the roof. 498 00:29:17,847 --> 00:29:19,380 So, thank you. 499 00:29:27,380 --> 00:29:28,540 Thank you. 500 00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:31,020 The court has now broken until tomorrow. 501 00:29:31,045 --> 00:29:33,540 - If you could be back here for 9:00am? - Fine. 502 00:29:36,634 --> 00:29:39,368 I'd heard most of that evidence before. Hadn't you? 503 00:29:39,393 --> 00:29:40,560 Mm. 504 00:29:40,585 --> 00:29:42,350 We had all that back when Steve was around, 505 00:29:42,375 --> 00:29:44,065 as far as I can remember. 506 00:29:44,090 --> 00:29:46,090 So, what have they been doing for the last five years? 507 00:29:46,115 --> 00:29:49,115 All this new evidence! All they've got is Steve. 508 00:29:49,767 --> 00:29:51,680 And he must be so nervous, after all this time, 509 00:29:51,705 --> 00:29:53,705 wondering what Halliwell is going to say. 510 00:30:08,054 --> 00:30:09,054 Tell us again, Mr Fulcher, 511 00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:12,079 what Christopher Halliwell told you that day about the second victim. 512 00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:14,159 He said he had taken a prostitute 513 00:30:14,184 --> 00:30:17,024 from the Manchester Road area of Swindon, 514 00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:19,209 had sex with her in the back of his taxi... 515 00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,234 ...and then strangled her. 516 00:30:21,259 --> 00:30:24,300 I said, "Was it similar to Sian?" He said, "Pretty much." 517 00:30:24,325 --> 00:30:26,325 I asked if there were any other victims, 518 00:30:26,350 --> 00:30:28,190 I said, "Is it just these two?" 519 00:30:28,215 --> 00:30:30,375 And he replied, "Isn't that enough?" 520 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,760 OK, let's pause there. 521 00:30:32,785 --> 00:30:35,465 I'm sure Mr Halliwell has some questions for you. 522 00:30:46,874 --> 00:30:49,140 I couldn't care less... 523 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,700 ...about not being cautioned by you. 524 00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:54,076 Sorry? 525 00:30:54,101 --> 00:30:57,511 It didn't bother me in the slightest that... 526 00:30:57,536 --> 00:30:59,536 ...my rights were breached. 527 00:30:59,561 --> 00:31:01,561 When I was arrested on 24th March, 528 00:31:01,586 --> 00:31:04,586 that was the first day of a life sentence. 529 00:31:04,611 --> 00:31:06,611 I knew that. 530 00:31:06,636 --> 00:31:09,636 So, after I took you to Sian's body, everything after that... 531 00:31:09,661 --> 00:31:11,661 ...well, that was about pure revenge. 532 00:31:13,987 --> 00:31:15,187 I don't quite follow you. 533 00:31:15,314 --> 00:31:18,474 Well, I didn't know about PACE and codes and all that, 534 00:31:18,499 --> 00:31:21,139 but I knew enough to know that, if I asked to speak to a solicitor, 535 00:31:21,164 --> 00:31:25,164 then everything else should stop until that's been given to me. 536 00:31:25,189 --> 00:31:26,189 I knew that much. 537 00:31:26,214 --> 00:31:29,214 I asked you six or seven times, 538 00:31:29,239 --> 00:31:32,239 it's all been recorded, and you kept refusing me. 539 00:31:33,034 --> 00:31:34,340 I knew that was wrong. 540 00:31:34,365 --> 00:31:37,365 I didn't care because I knew I could turn it to my advantage. 541 00:31:37,390 --> 00:31:39,780 So, all that whole story... 542 00:31:40,307 --> 00:31:42,307 ...about burying a girl in a field... 543 00:31:44,034 --> 00:31:45,034 ...it was just a pack of lies. 544 00:31:45,934 --> 00:31:47,814 Mr Halliwell, if you are alleging 545 00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:51,959 that revenge played a part in what happened that day, 546 00:31:51,984 --> 00:31:53,240 you must explain yourself. 547 00:31:53,265 --> 00:31:54,920 Yeah, in a minute, Your Honour. 548 00:31:54,945 --> 00:31:56,916 I had no idea if there was a body 549 00:31:56,941 --> 00:31:58,969 buried in that field in Eastleach. 550 00:31:59,527 --> 00:32:03,527 How could I if I'd never met Rebecca Godden in my life? 551 00:32:03,552 --> 00:32:05,552 What happened was, at the end of 2001, 552 00:32:05,577 --> 00:32:07,577 I started driving these fellas around. 553 00:32:07,602 --> 00:32:08,602 Well... 554 00:32:10,034 --> 00:32:11,532 ...drug dealers, they were. 555 00:32:11,557 --> 00:32:14,557 But I never asked them any questions and they seemed to trust me. 556 00:32:14,582 --> 00:32:18,582 Now, one night, at the end of March time 2003, 557 00:32:18,607 --> 00:32:21,607 they directed me out to this field in Eastleach. 558 00:32:21,632 --> 00:32:23,632 And they carried this big holdall 559 00:32:23,657 --> 00:32:25,520 out of the boot of my taxi into the field. 560 00:32:25,545 --> 00:32:27,545 Now, I drove off. I came back for them later. 561 00:32:27,570 --> 00:32:29,540 I never asked them what they were doing. 562 00:32:30,393 --> 00:32:32,433 A few months later, I was driving one of them around 563 00:32:32,458 --> 00:32:34,200 and he was drunk, right? 564 00:32:34,225 --> 00:32:36,740 And he tells me that they had buried... 565 00:32:36,765 --> 00:32:41,180 ...a prostitute in that field that night. 566 00:32:41,205 --> 00:32:43,205 Now, I thought he was messing 567 00:32:43,230 --> 00:32:45,230 because he said it like it was nothing. 568 00:32:45,255 --> 00:32:48,775 So, when I took you to that field in Eastleach, 569 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,500 I had no idea if there was a body buried there. 570 00:32:52,493 --> 00:32:54,060 And I can prove it. 571 00:32:54,794 --> 00:32:58,274 How deep down did I say the body was buried? 572 00:32:58,299 --> 00:33:00,560 - You said five feet. - That's right. 573 00:33:00,585 --> 00:33:03,545 And how deep was it actually buried? 574 00:33:03,570 --> 00:33:05,570 Er, about eight inches, 575 00:33:05,595 --> 00:33:06,872 cos the bedrock was so close to the surface. 576 00:33:06,897 --> 00:33:07,920 Yeah. 577 00:33:07,945 --> 00:33:12,180 So, why would I say five feet if it was only eight inches? 578 00:33:12,205 --> 00:33:15,205 Well, you also couldn't be sure when you had murdered Becky. 579 00:33:15,230 --> 00:33:17,230 Cos I never did, cos I'd never met her. 580 00:33:17,255 --> 00:33:19,914 You said it was in 2003, 2004 or 2005. 581 00:33:19,939 --> 00:33:22,280 So what I surmised... 582 00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:25,834 ...and from you getting wrong the depth that she was buried, 583 00:33:25,859 --> 00:33:28,059 was that you had other victims that you had buried, 584 00:33:28,084 --> 00:33:31,200 victims that we don't yet know about, 585 00:33:31,225 --> 00:33:34,225 and that you became confused about which was which. 586 00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:36,322 That's an absolute pack of lies. And you know that. 587 00:33:36,347 --> 00:33:40,460 No, I know that you told me you had murdered a prostitute 588 00:33:40,485 --> 00:33:42,485 and buried her in that field. 589 00:33:42,510 --> 00:33:44,510 I believed... 590 00:33:44,535 --> 00:33:47,215 ...in that moment, that you were contrite 591 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,075 and that you wanted to unburden yourself. 592 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:51,388 - That's ridiculous. - You said you could take me 593 00:33:51,413 --> 00:33:53,330 to the exact spot in that field 594 00:33:53,331 --> 00:33:54,518 where she was buried. 595 00:33:54,567 --> 00:33:56,345 In fact, you were a few feet out, 596 00:33:56,346 --> 00:33:58,779 but we later discovered the remains of Rebecca Godden 597 00:33:58,780 --> 00:34:02,073 in that field that you had directed us to. 598 00:34:02,074 --> 00:34:05,806 Well, I only said that because I wanted to get you in the shit. 599 00:34:05,807 --> 00:34:08,286 We need to know why, Mr Halliwell. 600 00:34:08,287 --> 00:34:10,591 Because he threatened my daughters. 601 00:34:10,592 --> 00:34:12,316 - I did what? - You threatened my daughters. 602 00:34:12,317 --> 00:34:14,375 And nobody threatens my kids! 603 00:34:14,376 --> 00:34:17,021 - Absolute rubbish. - That's why I took you to that field. 604 00:34:17,022 --> 00:34:19,342 Cos I knew for certain, if anything was found there, 605 00:34:19,343 --> 00:34:20,984 then any third-rate solicitor 606 00:34:20,985 --> 00:34:23,400 would make mincemeat of the fact I hadn't been cautioned 607 00:34:23,425 --> 00:34:25,425 and you'd be dropped right in it. 608 00:34:26,174 --> 00:34:29,174 But you haven't told us what this threat was. 609 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,800 I'm not going to say. 610 00:34:32,825 --> 00:34:34,180 You're not going to say? 611 00:34:34,227 --> 00:34:35,460 No. 612 00:34:36,754 --> 00:34:41,260 Don't you think it's rather important to tell us what it was? 613 00:34:41,694 --> 00:34:43,190 Well, there's no point. 614 00:34:43,215 --> 00:34:45,940 I can't prove it. It's my word against his. 615 00:34:46,660 --> 00:34:47,820 I see. 616 00:34:47,845 --> 00:34:50,845 So, do you have any more questions for Mr Fulcher? 617 00:34:54,347 --> 00:34:55,347 Er... 618 00:34:57,287 --> 00:34:58,287 No. 619 00:34:59,313 --> 00:35:00,833 Very well. 620 00:35:00,858 --> 00:35:02,338 This might be a good time to take a break. 621 00:35:02,363 --> 00:35:04,563 Er, just one more thing. Erm... 622 00:35:04,588 --> 00:35:08,388 It was a pleasure ruining your career, you corrupt bastard. 623 00:35:25,055 --> 00:35:29,054 "I do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm 624 00:35:29,055 --> 00:35:31,054 "that the evidence I give shall be the truth, 625 00:35:31,055 --> 00:35:34,575 "the whole truth and nothing but the truth." 626 00:35:49,055 --> 00:35:51,055 You really loathe Mr Fulcher, don't you? 627 00:35:53,895 --> 00:35:55,055 Absolutely. 628 00:35:56,055 --> 00:35:58,735 You blame him for your confessions, don't you? 629 00:35:59,170 --> 00:36:01,085 I'm responsible for my own actions. 630 00:36:01,110 --> 00:36:03,054 I've faced up to what I did to Sian. 631 00:36:03,055 --> 00:36:04,055 No, but you see, you haven't. 632 00:36:04,056 --> 00:36:05,948 You've never given a proper account 633 00:36:05,973 --> 00:36:07,683 of what happened when Sian died, 634 00:36:07,684 --> 00:36:09,793 other than some nonsensical claim 635 00:36:09,794 --> 00:36:12,054 that she tried to grab your steering wheel 636 00:36:12,055 --> 00:36:13,055 and then you went to punch her 637 00:36:13,056 --> 00:36:15,055 without realising you had a knife in your hand. 638 00:36:17,055 --> 00:36:21,054 You abducted her for sexual purposes, just as you did Rebecca. 639 00:36:21,055 --> 00:36:23,054 Er, that's ludicrous. 640 00:36:23,055 --> 00:36:25,055 - It was an accident. - Was it? 641 00:36:25,580 --> 00:36:28,414 Is that why her leggings and knickers were pulled down 642 00:36:28,415 --> 00:36:30,140 and her bra was missing? 643 00:36:30,508 --> 00:36:33,500 Listen, I came here to tell the truth. 644 00:36:34,255 --> 00:36:37,094 It doesn't matter to me if the jury believes me or not. 645 00:36:37,095 --> 00:36:40,054 Yes, you keep saying that. But that's not true, either. 646 00:36:40,055 --> 00:36:43,054 You received 25 years for the murder of Sian O'Callaghan. 647 00:36:43,055 --> 00:36:46,054 But there is at least a chance you could be released, 648 00:36:46,055 --> 00:36:48,054 albeit you'd be in your 70s. 649 00:36:48,055 --> 00:36:50,054 If you're found guilty of Rebecca's murder, 650 00:36:50,055 --> 00:36:51,055 then you will never be released. 651 00:36:51,056 --> 00:36:54,054 So, actually, there's rather a lot riding on this. 652 00:36:54,055 --> 00:36:56,054 Which is why you've constructed this fantasy account 653 00:36:56,055 --> 00:36:58,055 of how you led the police to her body. 654 00:36:59,575 --> 00:37:01,020 It's what happened. 655 00:37:01,774 --> 00:37:05,457 Yes. Except, for it to be true, you have to try and convince the jury 656 00:37:05,482 --> 00:37:07,799 you have never met Rebecca Godden. 657 00:37:09,055 --> 00:37:11,633 - I... I haven't. - Which is why you're so desperate 658 00:37:11,634 --> 00:37:14,054 to try and rebut the evidence of Miss X, 659 00:37:14,055 --> 00:37:17,094 whom you inconveniently had sex with on two occasions. 660 00:37:17,095 --> 00:37:20,055 I've never set eyes on her before and, to be honest... 661 00:37:21,220 --> 00:37:23,894 - ...she's not my type. - Not your type? 662 00:37:23,895 --> 00:37:25,054 What is your type, then? 663 00:37:25,055 --> 00:37:28,055 Well, certainly not that thin. 664 00:37:29,735 --> 00:37:31,700 Is your type size eight? 665 00:37:33,055 --> 00:37:34,055 Size ten? 666 00:37:36,055 --> 00:37:37,422 Pretty, young women who are out 667 00:37:37,447 --> 00:37:39,054 and about on the streets of Swindon 668 00:37:39,055 --> 00:37:42,054 in the early hours of the morning, is that your type? 669 00:37:42,055 --> 00:37:45,735 About five feet, five feet two inches tall, 670 00:37:46,067 --> 00:37:47,387 on their own... 671 00:37:48,055 --> 00:37:49,415 ...vulnerable. 672 00:37:51,354 --> 00:37:53,354 Is that your type? 673 00:38:31,392 --> 00:38:33,392 _ 674 00:38:51,681 --> 00:38:53,681 Foreman of the jury, 675 00:38:53,706 --> 00:38:56,706 have you reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed? 676 00:38:57,724 --> 00:38:58,724 We have. 677 00:38:59,055 --> 00:39:02,054 Do you find the defendant, Christopher Halliwell, 678 00:39:02,055 --> 00:39:05,220 guilty or not guilty of murder? 679 00:39:06,055 --> 00:39:08,055 Guilty. 680 00:39:19,801 --> 00:39:21,801 Christopher John Halliwell... 681 00:39:22,667 --> 00:39:25,290 ...you have been convicted by a jury 682 00:39:25,315 --> 00:39:27,724 for the murder of Rebecca Godden. 683 00:39:28,255 --> 00:39:31,054 I observe that you lied to this jury 684 00:39:31,055 --> 00:39:34,415 about the circumstances of the murder of Rebecca Godden, 685 00:39:34,780 --> 00:39:37,054 just as you lied to the jury 686 00:39:37,055 --> 00:39:40,260 about the circumstances of the murder of Sian O'Callaghan. 687 00:39:41,055 --> 00:39:45,254 I have concluded that the level of your offending is exceptionally high 688 00:39:45,255 --> 00:39:48,415 and direct there will be a whole life order. 689 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,680 Take him down. 690 00:40:02,881 --> 00:40:05,241 - Where's Yvonne gone? - Oh, she's gone to find Steve. 691 00:40:24,415 --> 00:40:27,055 - Whole life? - Yeah. 692 00:40:32,055 --> 00:40:35,735 The judge said his account made no sense at all. He lied and lied. 693 00:40:37,774 --> 00:40:39,734 He was right, though. 694 00:40:41,248 --> 00:40:43,248 He did ruin me. 695 00:40:44,255 --> 00:40:46,723 I mean, it occurred to me, when I was facing him in court, 696 00:40:46,724 --> 00:40:48,003 that we cancelled each other out. 697 00:40:48,004 --> 00:40:49,649 That day, in order to bring him down, 698 00:40:49,650 --> 00:40:52,054 it was like I had to also lose everything. 699 00:40:52,055 --> 00:40:54,055 As if it was some sort of pact between us. 700 00:41:08,735 --> 00:41:12,699 Karen, we wondered if you could say something to the press. 701 00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:15,054 I've drafted some thoughts for you. 702 00:41:15,055 --> 00:41:17,254 I wondered if you and John could make a joint statement, 703 00:41:17,255 --> 00:41:19,054 mother and father together. 704 00:41:19,055 --> 00:41:21,402 Right. Because I'm not giving up, not till the truth comes out. 705 00:41:21,403 --> 00:41:23,238 - What? - That wasn't a trial, 706 00:41:23,263 --> 00:41:24,251 that was a travesty. 707 00:41:24,252 --> 00:41:26,574 What about the drug dealers Chris was talking about? 708 00:41:26,575 --> 00:41:28,054 Has anybody been looking for them? 709 00:41:28,055 --> 00:41:31,055 Was Fulcher involved with them? We need answers. 710 00:41:32,055 --> 00:41:34,054 I'm not doing a joint statement with John. 711 00:41:34,055 --> 00:41:35,458 You're on your own with him. 712 00:41:35,459 --> 00:41:38,055 And I don't need your notes. I know what I'm going to say. 713 00:41:41,381 --> 00:41:43,381 Steven... 714 00:41:45,095 --> 00:41:48,055 Can you take my bag? 715 00:41:55,055 --> 00:41:58,054 I want to place on record my thanks for the team 716 00:41:58,055 --> 00:42:00,778 led by Detective Superintendent Sean Memory, 717 00:42:00,779 --> 00:42:04,055 who have brought this case to a positive conclusion today. 718 00:42:04,392 --> 00:42:08,254 We have waited over five years for this moment. 719 00:42:08,255 --> 00:42:12,054 This has been an extremely painful journey, 720 00:42:12,055 --> 00:42:16,054 but at last we have finally received justice 721 00:42:16,055 --> 00:42:18,453 for our beautiful little girl Becky. 722 00:42:18,454 --> 00:42:21,704 Sean and his team were left with virtually nothing to go on 723 00:42:21,705 --> 00:42:24,054 after the evidence, initially gathered by Steve Fulcher, 724 00:42:24,055 --> 00:42:26,312 had to be thrown out virtually in its entirety. 725 00:42:26,337 --> 00:42:31,735 I want to thank, from the bottom of my heart, Steve Fulcher. 726 00:42:32,734 --> 00:42:37,734 I will always be indebted to him for bringing my little girl home. 727 00:42:37,759 --> 00:42:40,232 They worked tirelessly with the Crown Prosecution Service 728 00:42:40,257 --> 00:42:42,784 to uncover new evidence and bring this case to justice. 729 00:42:42,809 --> 00:42:44,849 They are to be congratulated. 730 00:42:44,874 --> 00:42:49,476 But Steve should never have suffered the terrible consequences, 731 00:42:49,501 --> 00:42:54,380 the loss of his reputation, the loss of his career... 732 00:42:55,055 --> 00:42:58,055 ...just for doing the right thing. 733 00:42:59,055 --> 00:43:00,055 Thank you. 734 00:43:06,255 --> 00:43:08,580 Go on. Go and talk to her. 735 00:43:14,055 --> 00:43:15,055 I can't. 736 00:43:17,055 --> 00:43:19,055 She's all right, you know? 737 00:43:19,834 --> 00:43:21,060 Like you, really. 738 00:43:28,194 --> 00:43:30,194 I just can't. It's too close. 739 00:43:41,575 --> 00:43:44,637 Steve Fulcher, this has been a landmark case in many ways. 740 00:43:44,638 --> 00:43:47,724 And I know it's been a difficult journey for you, personally. 741 00:43:47,725 --> 00:43:51,054 But how do you respond to those who say we cannot have the police 742 00:43:51,055 --> 00:43:53,615 riding roughshod over the rights of a suspect 743 00:43:53,616 --> 00:43:56,054 - as if it were the 1970s again? - I agree. 744 00:43:56,055 --> 00:43:59,460 I agree. But what if next time it's your daughter who's gone missing? 745 00:44:00,055 --> 00:44:04,054 And if another police officer finds himself in the position I was in, 746 00:44:04,055 --> 00:44:05,585 what does he do? 747 00:44:05,586 --> 00:44:07,054 Now, after what's happened to me, 748 00:44:07,055 --> 00:44:09,628 he would be perfectly entitled to give up on her, 749 00:44:09,629 --> 00:44:11,796 to take his suspect back to the police station 750 00:44:11,797 --> 00:44:14,413 and let a lawyer advise him to go, "No comment." 751 00:44:14,414 --> 00:44:16,586 Now, if she was still alive, 752 00:44:16,611 --> 00:44:19,868 your daughter would then inevitably die. 753 00:44:20,901 --> 00:44:24,901 And the police's official position on this seems to be, 754 00:44:24,926 --> 00:44:26,300 "So be it. 755 00:44:26,821 --> 00:44:29,821 "We're very sorry, but she'll just have to die, then." 756 00:44:31,055 --> 00:44:33,055 Is that what we want? 757 00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:34,979 *CREDITS*