1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:01,773 Previously on "For the People"... 2 00:00:01,797 --> 00:00:03,234 You said something to me once. 3 00:00:03,258 --> 00:00:05,327 You said, "You don't celebrate people going to jail." 4 00:00:05,351 --> 00:00:07,899 I don't think I fully understood that until now. 5 00:00:07,923 --> 00:00:09,067 I turned on a client. 6 00:00:09,091 --> 00:00:11,470 You tried to save someone's life. 7 00:00:11,494 --> 00:00:13,205 I'm the person who never turns on you. 8 00:00:13,229 --> 00:00:14,954 I was not that today. 9 00:00:15,965 --> 00:00:17,529 - Roger! - Get on the ground now! 10 00:00:17,553 --> 00:00:18,562 Don't move! 11 00:00:18,586 --> 00:00:20,779 - Hey. - Hey. 12 00:00:20,803 --> 00:00:22,113 Come on. 13 00:01:01,010 --> 00:01:03,622 - You're my attorney? Really? - Yes. 14 00:01:03,646 --> 00:01:05,090 I wouldn't have picked that belt, 15 00:01:05,114 --> 00:01:07,025 but you are absolutely pulling it off. 16 00:01:07,049 --> 00:01:09,027 Thank you. 17 00:01:09,051 --> 00:01:10,996 Obsessed with "Project Runway." 18 00:01:11,020 --> 00:01:12,864 I worship at the feet of Nina Garcia. 19 00:01:12,888 --> 00:01:14,132 - She's the best. - Yeah. 20 00:01:14,156 --> 00:01:15,800 - Posen? - Oh, he can kick rocks. 21 00:01:15,824 --> 00:01:17,269 So many rocks. 22 00:01:17,293 --> 00:01:19,137 But I'd take an outfit designed by him 23 00:01:19,161 --> 00:01:20,289 over this awful thing. 24 00:01:20,313 --> 00:01:22,130 It's humiliating. It doesn't even fit. 25 00:01:23,699 --> 00:01:26,044 - Cigarettes. - Cigarettes. 26 00:01:26,068 --> 00:01:27,679 Things are gonna kill me, and I don't even smoke. 27 00:01:27,703 --> 00:01:29,614 They're not going to kill you, Rodney. 28 00:01:29,638 --> 00:01:31,116 I figured they'd just tell me to pack up. 29 00:01:31,140 --> 00:01:33,218 - Isn't that what they do? - They do. Usually. 30 00:01:33,242 --> 00:01:35,053 But you were allegedly selling a big quantity. 31 00:01:35,077 --> 00:01:37,022 And they traced the cartons back to a shipment 32 00:01:37,046 --> 00:01:39,124 - that came illegally from China. - China? 33 00:01:39,148 --> 00:01:41,159 These came off a truck on Junction Boulevard. 34 00:01:41,183 --> 00:01:43,061 I buy what I buy. Sell what I can. 35 00:01:43,085 --> 00:01:44,177 Who am I hurting? 36 00:01:44,201 --> 00:01:45,830 People out there sell drugs, guns. 37 00:01:45,854 --> 00:01:47,532 I've never done anything like that. 38 00:01:47,556 --> 00:01:48,733 Never been arrested. 39 00:01:48,757 --> 00:01:49,868 I know it's scary. 40 00:01:49,892 --> 00:01:51,469 You have no idea. 41 00:01:51,493 --> 00:01:52,637 I have a daughter. 42 00:01:52,661 --> 00:01:54,172 How old? 43 00:01:54,196 --> 00:01:55,507 She's 4. 44 00:01:55,531 --> 00:01:56,808 Her name's Sky. 45 00:01:56,832 --> 00:01:58,209 Beautiful name. 46 00:01:58,233 --> 00:01:59,277 Beautiful girl. 47 00:01:59,301 --> 00:02:01,546 I always wanted her to know there was more out there 48 00:02:01,570 --> 00:02:03,882 than East Baltimore. 49 00:02:03,906 --> 00:02:05,417 No limits. 50 00:02:05,441 --> 00:02:07,175 Nobody ever told me that. 51 00:02:08,177 --> 00:02:09,688 You look so familiar. 52 00:02:09,712 --> 00:02:11,389 I was actually thinking the same thing. 53 00:02:12,681 --> 00:02:14,526 But whatever. We're here now. 54 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:16,595 Everything happens for a reason, right? 55 00:02:16,619 --> 00:02:19,030 This is gonna work out. I have to believe that. 56 00:02:19,054 --> 00:02:20,068 You should believe that. 57 00:02:20,092 --> 00:02:21,666 We are going to work this out. Okay? 58 00:02:21,690 --> 00:02:24,336 You should be released after your bail hearing this afternoon. 59 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,705 Is there anything I can do for you before then? 60 00:02:26,729 --> 00:02:28,796 Just get me out of here. 61 00:02:30,065 --> 00:02:31,676 - Cigarettes? - Cigarettes. 62 00:02:31,700 --> 00:02:34,279 - NYPD is cracking down. - On cigarettes? 63 00:02:34,303 --> 00:02:36,214 Shouldn't they be, like, cracking down on crime? 64 00:02:36,238 --> 00:02:38,049 I feel like that's totally reasonable. 65 00:02:38,073 --> 00:02:39,751 Jay. Duty. 66 00:02:39,775 --> 00:02:43,588 And I feel like that's totally un... derstandable. 67 00:02:43,612 --> 00:02:45,190 Because I had duty yesterday 68 00:02:45,214 --> 00:02:47,626 and the day before that, so why not today? 69 00:02:47,650 --> 00:02:49,194 Duty calls. Call of Duty. 70 00:02:49,218 --> 00:02:50,428 Tour of Duty. 71 00:02:50,452 --> 00:02:52,130 Reporting for duty, General Carlan. 72 00:02:53,989 --> 00:02:55,767 I'm just gonna head over to the courthouse. 73 00:02:55,791 --> 00:02:58,603 He could do five years for this. For cigarettes. 74 00:02:58,627 --> 00:03:00,238 He could do five years 75 00:03:00,262 --> 00:03:02,107 if he went to trial and was convicted. 76 00:03:02,131 --> 00:03:03,208 But that's not gonna happen. 77 00:03:03,232 --> 00:03:04,609 Talk to the line prosecutor. 78 00:03:04,633 --> 00:03:07,912 They're not taking untaxed cigarettes to a jury. 79 00:03:14,309 --> 00:03:15,987 - Jury duty? - Yes. 80 00:03:16,011 --> 00:03:17,055 - You? - Yes. 81 00:03:17,079 --> 00:03:18,390 - On jury duty? - Yes. 82 00:03:18,414 --> 00:03:20,291 With jurors? 83 00:03:20,315 --> 00:03:22,727 I think that's the way it works, even in state court. 84 00:03:22,751 --> 00:03:24,462 - They're never gonna pick you. - I hope they do. 85 00:03:24,486 --> 00:03:26,097 Never served on a jury before. 86 00:03:26,121 --> 00:03:27,766 There's a reason for that. You're a judge. 87 00:03:27,790 --> 00:03:29,434 - I'm a person. - Yeah, not really. 88 00:03:29,458 --> 00:03:31,336 - I pack a lunch. - Someone packs it for you. 89 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,337 In a brown paper bag. 90 00:03:32,361 --> 00:03:35,407 - And what does it say on that bag? - Nothing. 91 00:03:35,431 --> 00:03:38,977 Does it say "World's Greatest Eddie Punchclock" on that bag? 92 00:03:39,001 --> 00:03:40,301 Maybe. 93 00:03:41,437 --> 00:03:44,182 Anyway, it's state court. And I'm looking forward to it. 94 00:03:44,206 --> 00:03:45,817 To see the criminal justice system 95 00:03:45,841 --> 00:03:48,586 from a completely different perspective. 96 00:03:53,282 --> 00:03:54,459 Sorry. 97 00:03:54,483 --> 00:03:56,528 Welcome to jury duty. Good morning! 98 00:03:56,552 --> 00:03:57,622 Morning. 99 00:03:57,646 --> 00:03:59,197 Let's try that again. Good morning! 100 00:03:59,221 --> 00:04:00,331 Good morning!! 101 00:04:00,355 --> 00:04:02,267 Much better. Good morning. 102 00:04:02,291 --> 00:04:04,269 My name's Ms. Ryan, and I'm here to answer 103 00:04:04,293 --> 00:04:06,004 any questions you have except one, 104 00:04:06,028 --> 00:04:07,205 which is when can I go home? 105 00:04:07,229 --> 00:04:09,140 The answer is 5:00. 5:00. 106 00:04:09,164 --> 00:04:11,042 Not a minute before. Do not ask. 107 00:04:11,066 --> 00:04:12,510 - Now... - What time are we out of here? 108 00:04:12,534 --> 00:04:13,575 5:00. 109 00:04:13,599 --> 00:04:14,846 Thank you for asking. 110 00:04:14,870 --> 00:04:16,014 A few other things before we get... 111 00:04:16,038 --> 00:04:17,148 Is it cool if I bounce at 4:30? 112 00:04:17,172 --> 00:04:20,852 5:00. Now, a few other things before we get started. 113 00:04:20,876 --> 00:04:23,354 There's no eating or drinking in the courtrooms. 114 00:04:23,378 --> 00:04:25,190 No pets. No weapons. No chewing gum. 115 00:04:25,214 --> 00:04:26,825 No photography. No hope. No exit. 116 00:04:26,849 --> 00:04:28,359 That's a joke. 117 00:04:28,383 --> 00:04:30,195 There is an exit right behind you to the left. 118 00:04:30,219 --> 00:04:32,230 In a few minutes, some of you will be assigned a courtroom. 119 00:04:32,254 --> 00:04:33,465 Please be patient. 120 00:04:33,489 --> 00:04:34,533 In the meantime, 121 00:04:34,557 --> 00:04:36,201 please direct your attention to our monitors 122 00:04:36,225 --> 00:04:38,954 on which you will now see an advanced screening of "Wonder Woman." 123 00:04:39,972 --> 00:04:41,539 You have been summoned for jury service. 124 00:04:41,563 --> 00:04:42,900 Now is also the time 125 00:04:42,924 --> 00:04:44,309 to put away your phones. 126 00:04:44,333 --> 00:04:45,510 Thank you. Thank you, all. 127 00:04:45,534 --> 00:04:46,678 It's been a real pleasure. 128 00:04:46,702 --> 00:04:48,313 ...without the participation of citizens like you. 129 00:04:48,337 --> 00:04:50,815 I did buy shampoo. 130 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,817 Look under the sink... 131 00:04:52,841 --> 00:04:56,387 Under the sink... under. 132 00:04:56,411 --> 00:04:57,989 Under. 133 00:04:58,013 --> 00:04:59,724 Did you look under the sink? 134 00:04:59,748 --> 00:05:01,826 - The sink... under the sink. - Excuse me. 135 00:05:01,850 --> 00:05:04,062 - Yeah? - She said to put away our phones. 136 00:05:04,086 --> 00:05:05,319 Okay, gramps, got it. 137 00:05:06,355 --> 00:05:08,266 Did you look under the sink? 138 00:05:08,290 --> 00:05:09,567 No, the sink. 139 00:05:09,591 --> 00:05:11,159 Under the sink... 140 00:05:12,561 --> 00:05:14,906 - Is it true? - Yes, he's on jury duty. 141 00:05:14,930 --> 00:05:16,174 - Who? - Judge Byrne. 142 00:05:16,198 --> 00:05:17,375 No, I wasn't asking about that. 143 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:19,277 Really? Judge Byrne? 144 00:05:19,301 --> 00:05:21,412 In state court. Is what true? 145 00:05:21,436 --> 00:05:23,448 The rumor about a softer, gentler, 146 00:05:23,472 --> 00:05:25,250 more reasonable Leonard Knox? 147 00:05:25,274 --> 00:05:26,851 - Who said that? - It's a rumor. 148 00:05:26,875 --> 00:05:29,454 It's not anyone in particular. You just hear it. 149 00:05:29,478 --> 00:05:30,588 Sandra. 150 00:05:30,612 --> 00:05:31,790 I subpoenaed her to turn over 151 00:05:31,814 --> 00:05:34,058 confidential information from her client. 152 00:05:34,082 --> 00:05:35,927 I don't think she thinks I'm softer or gentler. 153 00:05:35,951 --> 00:05:37,629 It might have been before that. 154 00:05:37,653 --> 00:05:39,464 You're here about Rodney Jenkins? 155 00:05:39,488 --> 00:05:41,533 - Yes. - Make your pitch. 156 00:05:41,557 --> 00:05:44,402 Rodney has no priors. This is a non-violent crime. 157 00:05:44,426 --> 00:05:46,771 He's being charged as if he runs an illegal tobacco ring 158 00:05:46,795 --> 00:05:48,540 when in fact he's just selling on the street. 159 00:05:48,564 --> 00:05:50,742 He should be released on his own recognizance. 160 00:05:50,766 --> 00:05:52,043 It's a beautiful day. 161 00:05:52,067 --> 00:05:54,045 I walked to work. I never walk. 162 00:05:54,069 --> 00:05:55,747 New York is glorious this time of year. 163 00:05:55,771 --> 00:05:58,483 I took the train. 164 00:05:58,507 --> 00:06:00,752 The subway is an amazing place. 165 00:06:00,776 --> 00:06:03,621 One of the last places on Earth where there is no hierarchy. 166 00:06:03,645 --> 00:06:05,423 Everyone is on equal footing. 167 00:06:05,447 --> 00:06:06,558 Rodney's hearing is in 15 minutes. 168 00:06:06,582 --> 00:06:08,092 Walk to the courthouse together? 169 00:06:09,685 --> 00:06:11,396 The rumor. Is it true? 170 00:06:11,420 --> 00:06:12,897 You haven't answered my question. 171 00:06:12,921 --> 00:06:14,088 Are you sure? 172 00:06:15,324 --> 00:06:16,601 Your Honor, - Mr. Jenkins is being charged 173 00:06:16,625 --> 00:06:18,336 with the illegal sale of untaxed cigarettes 174 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,339 in violation of 18 USC 2342. 175 00:06:21,363 --> 00:06:22,607 In light of the nature of the offense, 176 00:06:22,631 --> 00:06:24,309 and Mr. Jenkins' lack of criminal history, 177 00:06:24,333 --> 00:06:25,610 we would ask that Mr. Jenkins be released 178 00:06:25,634 --> 00:06:26,644 on his own recognizance. 179 00:06:26,668 --> 00:06:28,302 - No bail at all? - No, Your Honor. 180 00:06:31,173 --> 00:06:34,018 Defendant moved here from Baltimore six months ago? 181 00:06:34,042 --> 00:06:36,087 That is correct, Your Honor. To take care of his grandmother. 182 00:06:36,111 --> 00:06:37,488 Do you have children, Mr. Jenkins? 183 00:06:37,512 --> 00:06:38,690 He does, Your Honor. A daughter. 184 00:06:38,714 --> 00:06:39,824 Her name is Sky. 185 00:06:39,848 --> 00:06:41,960 Sky? Okay. You supporting her? 186 00:06:41,984 --> 00:06:43,294 He does his best, Your Honor. 187 00:06:43,318 --> 00:06:45,263 Well, obviously his best isn't good enough. 188 00:06:45,287 --> 00:06:46,387 His baby lives in Baltimore. 189 00:06:46,411 --> 00:06:48,499 - Yes. Sky... - That wasn't a question. 190 00:06:48,523 --> 00:06:50,768 Mr. Knox, despite the fact that the defendant 191 00:06:50,792 --> 00:06:51,769 has a daughter living in another state, 192 00:06:51,793 --> 00:06:54,328 you do not consider him to be a flight risk? 193 00:06:56,164 --> 00:06:57,505 I do not. 194 00:06:58,166 --> 00:06:59,811 Well, I respectfully disagree. 195 00:06:59,835 --> 00:07:01,813 Even bad fathers want to see their daughters... 196 00:07:01,837 --> 00:07:04,182 Your Honor, I strongly object to the insinuation 197 00:07:04,206 --> 00:07:05,450 that Mr. Jenkins is a bad father 198 00:07:05,474 --> 00:07:06,584 because he doesn't live with his... 199 00:07:06,608 --> 00:07:08,987 He's a bad father because he's in custody in New York 200 00:07:09,011 --> 00:07:10,148 and his daughter is in Baltimore. 201 00:07:10,172 --> 00:07:11,522 Given that he's facing five years in prison 202 00:07:11,546 --> 00:07:12,590 for a first offense, 203 00:07:12,614 --> 00:07:14,515 I would like to persuade him to appear in court. 204 00:07:15,918 --> 00:07:17,818 I'll set bond at $100,000. 205 00:07:19,154 --> 00:07:20,398 You can call the next case. 206 00:07:23,992 --> 00:07:31,992 Synced & corrected by -robtor- www.addic7ed.com 207 00:07:32,849 --> 00:07:34,398 100 grand? Cool. 208 00:07:34,422 --> 00:07:36,677 I'll liquidate my 401 and sell my yacht. 209 00:07:36,701 --> 00:07:38,445 It's a personal recognizance bond. 210 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:40,013 - Not cash bail. - I don't get the difference. 211 00:07:40,037 --> 00:07:41,481 It means you don't have to put up money. 212 00:07:41,505 --> 00:07:43,016 You just need three people with means 213 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,419 - or at least moral suasion to sign... - Moral, what? 214 00:07:45,443 --> 00:07:47,321 Three people close to you need to sign the bond 215 00:07:47,345 --> 00:07:49,489 saying they're responsible for you showing up to court. 216 00:07:49,513 --> 00:07:51,191 What about Sky's mother? 217 00:07:51,215 --> 00:07:52,359 I don't want her to know about this. 218 00:07:52,383 --> 00:07:54,294 - She'll use it against me. - Anyone else? 219 00:07:54,318 --> 00:07:56,263 I came up there to take care of my grandma in Harlem. 220 00:07:56,287 --> 00:07:57,931 Anna. She'll have my back. 221 00:07:57,955 --> 00:08:00,300 My cousin, Gerald, he stays up here, too. 222 00:08:00,324 --> 00:08:02,469 I have a half-brother in Astoria... 223 00:08:02,493 --> 00:08:04,504 we don't talk much but I sent him money last summer 224 00:08:04,528 --> 00:08:05,706 when he was in a bind. 225 00:08:05,730 --> 00:08:07,441 But that's all the family I've got. 226 00:08:07,465 --> 00:08:08,542 Well, let's start there. 227 00:08:08,566 --> 00:08:09,776 How long will all of this take? 228 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,545 A few days. 229 00:08:11,569 --> 00:08:12,846 They served turkey last night. 230 00:08:12,870 --> 00:08:14,281 I'm not going to ask how that was. 231 00:08:14,305 --> 00:08:15,449 With gravy. 232 00:08:15,473 --> 00:08:17,017 - I'm sorry. - First time I ate. 233 00:08:17,041 --> 00:08:18,628 It was actually pretty good. 234 00:08:19,210 --> 00:08:20,888 Hang in there. Okay? 235 00:08:27,663 --> 00:08:29,305 You okay? 236 00:08:30,421 --> 00:08:31,999 Yeah, I'm fine. 237 00:08:32,023 --> 00:08:33,634 You have enough to do? 238 00:08:33,658 --> 00:08:36,703 Or too much? 239 00:08:36,727 --> 00:08:38,505 I'm fine. Really. 240 00:08:38,529 --> 00:08:39,696 Sandra. 241 00:08:41,565 --> 00:08:43,043 Take as much time as you need 242 00:08:43,067 --> 00:08:44,712 to get back to full speed, okay? 243 00:08:44,736 --> 00:08:46,981 You made one of the most difficult calls 244 00:08:47,005 --> 00:08:48,583 I've seen in my career. 245 00:08:48,607 --> 00:08:50,518 There isn't a lawyer in this office 246 00:08:50,542 --> 00:08:52,387 who doesn't respect what you did. 247 00:08:52,411 --> 00:08:54,288 What you went through. 248 00:08:54,913 --> 00:08:57,833 And I know they feel the same way across the street. 249 00:08:58,350 --> 00:08:59,894 They subpoenaed me. 250 00:08:59,918 --> 00:09:01,596 That was awful. I agree. 251 00:09:01,620 --> 00:09:03,698 And I told Roger that personally 252 00:09:03,722 --> 00:09:05,716 in the strongest possible terms. 253 00:09:06,558 --> 00:09:10,104 Well, thank you for raising it with him personally. 254 00:09:10,128 --> 00:09:12,707 I know you two have a good relationship, 255 00:09:12,731 --> 00:09:15,076 so I'm sure that wasn't easy. 256 00:09:38,457 --> 00:09:40,601 I want your help with something. 257 00:09:40,625 --> 00:09:42,704 Okay! Let's get this party started. 258 00:09:42,728 --> 00:09:44,939 What do you say we kick this off with a little voir dire? 259 00:09:44,963 --> 00:09:46,409 Voir dire originally referred to an oath 260 00:09:46,433 --> 00:09:48,335 taken by jurors to tell the truth. 261 00:09:48,359 --> 00:09:49,767 Shut it. 262 00:09:51,470 --> 00:09:53,748 Counsel, please proceed. 263 00:09:53,772 --> 00:09:56,084 Juror Number 12, is there any reason 264 00:09:56,108 --> 00:09:57,185 you couldn't be impartial 265 00:09:57,209 --> 00:09:59,620 in a case involving one parent assaulting another 266 00:09:59,644 --> 00:10:01,289 at their children's sporting event? 267 00:10:01,313 --> 00:10:02,557 I have nine children. 268 00:10:02,581 --> 00:10:04,158 Does that mean you can't be impartial? 269 00:10:04,182 --> 00:10:05,727 It means I hate children. 270 00:10:05,751 --> 00:10:07,295 I'm a full-time college student. 271 00:10:07,319 --> 00:10:09,230 University of Central Delaware. 272 00:10:09,254 --> 00:10:10,331 It's online. 273 00:10:10,355 --> 00:10:11,766 - What year are you? - I'm 22. 274 00:10:11,790 --> 00:10:12,800 What year are you in college? 275 00:10:12,824 --> 00:10:15,603 I'm 22 there, too. I'm 22. 276 00:10:15,627 --> 00:10:18,272 I'm a small-business owner. A hair salon. 277 00:10:18,296 --> 00:10:20,775 And when I say small, I'm saying it's just me. 278 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:22,577 Your shop is closed right now? 279 00:10:22,601 --> 00:10:23,778 Could you repeat the question? 280 00:10:23,802 --> 00:10:26,347 I'm the chief judge for the United States District Court 281 00:10:26,371 --> 00:10:27,615 for the Southern District of New York. 282 00:10:27,639 --> 00:10:30,651 Are you or is any member of your immediate family an attorney? 283 00:10:30,675 --> 00:10:32,487 Yes, I'm the chief judge... 284 00:10:32,511 --> 00:10:34,122 And do you or any of your immediate family members 285 00:10:34,146 --> 00:10:36,290 have any relationships in the criminal justice system 286 00:10:36,314 --> 00:10:37,792 that you believe could potentially interfere 287 00:10:37,816 --> 00:10:39,994 with your ability to serve as a juror in this case? 288 00:10:40,018 --> 00:10:41,529 - Yes. Absolutely. - Thank you. 289 00:10:41,553 --> 00:10:42,964 We're good, Your Honor. 290 00:10:42,988 --> 00:10:45,266 Terrific. We have our jury. 291 00:10:45,290 --> 00:10:46,701 Congratulations. 292 00:10:53,231 --> 00:10:55,943 Good news. I got you two signatures on Rodney's bond. 293 00:10:55,967 --> 00:10:57,712 Cousin Gerald and Brother Eric. 294 00:10:57,736 --> 00:11:00,782 Side note... Brother Eric is actually Brother Eric... 295 00:11:00,806 --> 00:11:02,116 he joined the Nation of Islam this week. 296 00:11:02,140 --> 00:11:03,484 I just thought that was funny. 297 00:11:03,508 --> 00:11:05,720 - Bad news? - Neither is a great candidate. 298 00:11:05,744 --> 00:11:07,822 Gerald is in every kind of debt you can name. 299 00:11:07,846 --> 00:11:09,457 Don't try. It's true. All of them. 300 00:11:09,481 --> 00:11:11,893 And Eric. Excuse me, Brother Eric... 301 00:11:11,917 --> 00:11:14,896 the only thing he owns is every live Prince recording ever made. 302 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,397 Dope, but not worth much. 303 00:11:16,421 --> 00:11:18,399 So, even if we get a third co-signer... 304 00:11:18,423 --> 00:11:20,168 Leonard might not approve the bond application. 305 00:11:20,192 --> 00:11:21,035 You want to hear the good news? 306 00:11:21,059 --> 00:11:23,171 One, Leonard Knox is being reasonable. 307 00:11:23,195 --> 00:11:24,739 Maybe Mercury is in retrograde. 308 00:11:24,763 --> 00:11:26,474 Whatever it is, he's cool. 309 00:11:26,498 --> 00:11:28,743 Second, I looked into Rodney's grandmother, Anna, 310 00:11:28,767 --> 00:11:30,378 and she's the dream co-signer. 311 00:11:30,402 --> 00:11:31,494 Deacon at her church... 312 00:11:31,518 --> 00:11:33,848 owns her brownstone in Harlem outright. 313 00:11:33,872 --> 00:11:35,550 Rodney says she'll support him. 314 00:11:39,244 --> 00:11:41,522 - What did he do this time? - This time? 315 00:11:41,546 --> 00:11:43,758 He tell you he come up from Baltimore to take care of me? 316 00:11:43,782 --> 00:11:45,226 Is that not true? 317 00:11:45,250 --> 00:11:47,061 His baby's mama told him to get lost 318 00:11:47,085 --> 00:11:49,063 because he couldn't hold down a job. 319 00:11:49,087 --> 00:11:50,898 He's been leaving here every morning 320 00:11:50,922 --> 00:11:52,767 telling me he's going on interviews. 321 00:11:52,791 --> 00:11:55,169 He'll fool you, honey... don't fall for it. 322 00:11:55,193 --> 00:11:56,237 He needs your help. 323 00:11:56,261 --> 00:11:57,505 I don't have any money. 324 00:11:57,529 --> 00:11:58,940 The judge isn't asking for money. 325 00:11:58,964 --> 00:12:02,510 He's requiring three people to sign a $100,000 bond 326 00:12:02,534 --> 00:12:04,745 saying they're responsible for Rodney making his court date. 327 00:12:04,769 --> 00:12:06,330 What happens if he doesn't make 328 00:12:06,355 --> 00:12:07,583 - his court date? - I promise... 329 00:12:07,607 --> 00:12:09,784 Honey, I don't care what you're promising. 330 00:12:09,808 --> 00:12:13,020 I don't know you. But I do know that boy. 331 00:12:13,044 --> 00:12:16,757 Now tell me what will happen if he doesn't show. 332 00:12:16,781 --> 00:12:19,961 You would be responsible for the money. 333 00:12:19,985 --> 00:12:22,763 - $100,000. - But that's only if... 334 00:12:22,787 --> 00:12:25,032 No. I will not do this. 335 00:12:25,056 --> 00:12:26,367 I don't have money. 336 00:12:26,391 --> 00:12:29,253 But what I have is this house. 337 00:12:29,895 --> 00:12:31,873 I bought it with my husband in 1981 338 00:12:31,897 --> 00:12:33,808 and I own it free and clear. 339 00:12:33,832 --> 00:12:35,643 And I'm not risking that for Rodney. 340 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:36,677 Now, when he gets out, 341 00:12:36,701 --> 00:12:39,647 he'll have a place to stay because he's family. 342 00:12:39,671 --> 00:12:42,250 But he made his bed, he can lie in it. 343 00:12:42,274 --> 00:12:44,643 And you can tell him I said that. 344 00:12:47,761 --> 00:12:50,266 - Look, I'm sorry. - Which one didn't come through? 345 00:12:50,291 --> 00:12:52,059 Gerald or Eric? 346 00:12:55,363 --> 00:12:56,797 Oh. 347 00:12:59,634 --> 00:13:01,911 I don't blame her. She's done a lot for me. 348 00:13:02,970 --> 00:13:05,906 I used to spend summers up here with my parents... 349 00:13:08,242 --> 00:13:10,461 She'd tell me not to speak ill of the dead. 350 00:13:13,961 --> 00:13:15,395 Tell her I'm sorry. 351 00:13:17,285 --> 00:13:19,019 I'm not mad at her, though. 352 00:13:21,055 --> 00:13:23,367 We need someone else to sign the bond. 353 00:13:23,391 --> 00:13:26,937 Someone who can actually be financially responsible. 354 00:13:26,961 --> 00:13:29,073 It can be a friend. 355 00:13:29,097 --> 00:13:31,565 You have friends who would risk a hundred stacks for you? 356 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,817 I think. 357 00:13:35,403 --> 00:13:36,695 I hope. 358 00:13:37,505 --> 00:13:39,239 That must be nice. 359 00:13:41,502 --> 00:13:42,785 It's so loud in here. 360 00:13:45,019 --> 00:13:47,664 Never knew that. Nobody ever talks about that. 361 00:13:47,689 --> 00:13:50,958 I keep getting this pain in my chest. 362 00:13:52,793 --> 00:13:53,970 Jason. 363 00:13:54,188 --> 00:13:55,798 Jason. 364 00:13:56,657 --> 00:13:58,135 We grew up together in Baltimore. 365 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:00,671 - He works at the Harlem DMV. - Okay. 366 00:14:02,609 --> 00:14:05,555 It's a bar in Harlem. That's confusing. 367 00:14:05,579 --> 00:14:08,424 He owns it, but I'd hate to lean on him. 368 00:14:08,448 --> 00:14:10,850 Do you want to be in here any longer than you have to? 369 00:14:14,955 --> 00:14:16,889 I'm going to talk to Jason. 370 00:14:18,926 --> 00:14:20,470 "Project Runway" is on tonight. 371 00:14:20,494 --> 00:14:21,738 Will you take notes for me? 372 00:14:21,762 --> 00:14:23,873 Yes. Of course. 373 00:14:28,235 --> 00:14:29,879 I don't want to go back in there. 374 00:14:33,941 --> 00:14:35,652 Mrs. McHugh, can you please tell us 375 00:14:35,676 --> 00:14:37,820 what you saw on the baseball field that day? 376 00:14:37,844 --> 00:14:40,490 Well, I typically don't watch much of the games. 377 00:14:40,514 --> 00:14:41,958 My son is terrible. 378 00:14:41,982 --> 00:14:44,928 He's very uncoordinated and lazy, like his father... 379 00:14:44,952 --> 00:14:46,296 - Mrs. McHugh... - Yeah. Okay. 380 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,430 Well, I heard some commotion, 381 00:14:47,454 --> 00:14:50,600 and when I looked up, Carl French... that man there... 382 00:14:50,624 --> 00:14:52,068 was charging across the field, 383 00:14:52,092 --> 00:14:54,470 screaming about some laser pointer. 384 00:14:54,494 --> 00:14:56,806 But really? Carl was just upset his son struck out 385 00:14:56,830 --> 00:14:58,675 and he was gonna take it out on someone. 386 00:14:58,699 --> 00:15:00,777 I don't think he's ever liked Mr. Orsua. 387 00:15:00,801 --> 00:15:01,945 Objection. 388 00:15:01,969 --> 00:15:03,947 Uh, objection. 389 00:15:03,971 --> 00:15:05,782 Conjecture. 390 00:15:05,806 --> 00:15:07,411 Uh, conjecture? 391 00:15:08,775 --> 00:15:10,409 Sustained. 392 00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:14,080 Mrs. McHugh, you're nearsighted, 393 00:15:14,105 --> 00:15:15,129 - correct? - Yes. 394 00:15:15,153 --> 00:15:16,826 Is that why you're wearing glasses today? 395 00:15:16,850 --> 00:15:18,328 Correct. 396 00:15:18,352 --> 00:15:20,786 Can you read this, Mrs. McHugh? 397 00:15:24,057 --> 00:15:24,834 Carrot. 398 00:15:24,858 --> 00:15:26,993 Would you mind removing your glasses? 399 00:15:28,729 --> 00:15:29,973 Can you read this? 400 00:15:29,997 --> 00:15:31,341 Doesn't it still say carrot? 401 00:15:31,365 --> 00:15:34,043 Okay. But can you read it? 402 00:15:34,067 --> 00:15:35,478 It says carrot, right? 403 00:15:35,502 --> 00:15:37,046 Okay, okay! Just... 404 00:15:37,070 --> 00:15:39,015 Hold on. 405 00:15:46,580 --> 00:15:48,224 Can you read this? 406 00:15:48,248 --> 00:15:49,359 No. 407 00:15:49,383 --> 00:15:51,461 No, no, stop. 408 00:15:51,485 --> 00:15:52,729 And were you wearing your glasses 409 00:15:52,753 --> 00:15:54,063 at the baseball game? 410 00:15:54,087 --> 00:15:55,298 I was not. 411 00:15:55,322 --> 00:15:57,211 I was wearing my contacts. 412 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,405 As the evidence clearly demonstrates, 413 00:16:02,429 --> 00:16:05,041 Carl French viciously attacked a fellow parent 414 00:16:05,065 --> 00:16:07,477 because Mr. French's son was playing poorly 415 00:16:07,501 --> 00:16:08,978 and he needed someone to blame. 416 00:16:09,002 --> 00:16:10,813 So he concocted a story 417 00:16:10,837 --> 00:16:14,417 about Mr. Orsua shining a laser into his son's eyes. 418 00:16:14,441 --> 00:16:18,154 Carl French is guilty. 419 00:16:18,178 --> 00:16:21,324 "G." Gave another man a concussion. 420 00:16:21,348 --> 00:16:25,094 "U." Umpire was there... he didn't see a problem. 421 00:16:25,118 --> 00:16:29,332 "I." I don't believe eyes were ever actually in danger. 422 00:16:29,356 --> 00:16:30,767 "L." 423 00:16:30,791 --> 00:16:33,770 - First things first, we need to... - Eat lunch. 424 00:16:33,794 --> 00:16:35,104 Oh, were you not gonna say lunch? 425 00:16:35,128 --> 00:16:36,072 I thought you were gonna say lunch. 426 00:16:36,096 --> 00:16:37,673 I'm hungry, too, but let's pick a foreperson, 427 00:16:37,697 --> 00:16:39,242 knock that out, then eat on the state's dime. 428 00:16:39,266 --> 00:16:42,178 - Good call, Lydia. - I don't need a co-signer, yo. 429 00:16:42,202 --> 00:16:43,913 I'll be happy to serve as foreperson. 430 00:16:43,937 --> 00:16:45,048 I promise I'll take it seriously 431 00:16:45,072 --> 00:16:46,015 and respect all of your opinions. 432 00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:47,950 I can get all of us out of here before 5:00. 433 00:16:47,974 --> 00:16:48,951 I vote for Lydia. 434 00:16:48,975 --> 00:16:50,556 - Lydia. - Yeah, absolutely. 435 00:16:51,478 --> 00:16:53,956 Great. Lydia, fantastic. 436 00:16:53,980 --> 00:16:56,793 I know I said lunch, but we should vote first. 437 00:16:56,817 --> 00:16:58,094 Because if we all agree, 438 00:16:58,118 --> 00:16:59,695 then we can just get the hell out of here. 439 00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:01,608 Who thinks Carl is guilty? 440 00:17:02,889 --> 00:17:04,100 Seriously, dude? 441 00:17:04,124 --> 00:17:05,301 Were you not watching the PowerPoint? 442 00:17:05,325 --> 00:17:07,070 The facts literally spell "guilty." 443 00:17:07,094 --> 00:17:08,204 Sorry, that's the way I saw the case. 444 00:17:08,228 --> 00:17:09,705 I'll be happy to explain. 445 00:17:09,729 --> 00:17:11,140 All right. 446 00:17:11,164 --> 00:17:12,494 Where are we eating? 447 00:17:19,306 --> 00:17:20,502 Rodney? 448 00:17:21,174 --> 00:17:22,421 What happened? 449 00:17:27,581 --> 00:17:30,827 Rodney... if you don't tell me what happened, 450 00:17:30,851 --> 00:17:32,556 I can't help you. 451 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,354 Have you been to the infirmary? 452 00:17:38,125 --> 00:17:40,603 Do you want me to get you into protective custody? 453 00:17:46,199 --> 00:17:47,696 Listen. 454 00:17:48,201 --> 00:17:50,324 Jason signed the bond. 455 00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:53,035 The government is reviewing the file. 456 00:17:54,244 --> 00:17:56,352 The prosecutor has to interview him, 457 00:17:56,376 --> 00:17:58,744 but it's a formality at this point. 458 00:18:00,213 --> 00:18:02,024 What happened on "Project Runway"? 459 00:18:02,048 --> 00:18:03,192 What? 460 00:18:03,216 --> 00:18:04,994 "Project Runway" was on last night. 461 00:18:05,018 --> 00:18:06,262 I asked you to take notes. 462 00:18:06,286 --> 00:18:07,296 Rodney... 463 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,054 What happened to Olivier? 464 00:18:11,725 --> 00:18:13,180 He was safe. 465 00:18:14,127 --> 00:18:15,432 Who won? 466 00:18:16,863 --> 00:18:18,174 Kimberly. 467 00:18:19,966 --> 00:18:23,002 I've really grown to appreciate her silhouettes. 468 00:18:26,206 --> 00:18:29,696 There was a lot of personal drama this week. 469 00:18:30,076 --> 00:18:31,240 Tell me. 470 00:18:32,045 --> 00:18:36,325 The designers had to make a day-to-night look for Nina. 471 00:18:36,349 --> 00:18:40,062 Anya picked this awful mustard fabric at Mood, 472 00:18:40,086 --> 00:18:42,665 and when Nina saw it in the workroom, 473 00:18:42,689 --> 00:18:45,868 she made that "I'm concerned about your taste level" face. 474 00:18:47,427 --> 00:18:49,972 Anya was all about to cry, 475 00:18:49,996 --> 00:18:53,142 and everyone jumped in to help her finish... 476 00:18:53,166 --> 00:18:54,377 except Viktor. 477 00:18:54,401 --> 00:18:55,645 He thought it was cheating. 478 00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:57,180 Of course he did. 479 00:18:57,204 --> 00:18:59,935 The judges ended up loving Anya's jumpsuit. 480 00:19:01,007 --> 00:19:05,855 It was this beautiful bronzed color. 481 00:19:05,879 --> 00:19:08,758 Backless. Belted. 482 00:19:08,782 --> 00:19:12,528 Viktor totally wanted to rat her out on the runway. 483 00:19:12,552 --> 00:19:14,263 But he held his tongue. 484 00:19:14,287 --> 00:19:16,432 Julie got eliminated. 485 00:19:16,456 --> 00:19:18,190 Kerry Washington wasn't feeling her look... 486 00:19:21,268 --> 00:19:23,041 We need to get this done quickly. 487 00:19:23,907 --> 00:19:25,418 - What? - We have a problem. 488 00:19:25,442 --> 00:19:26,853 What is the problem? 489 00:19:26,877 --> 00:19:27,988 The problem is you told me 490 00:19:28,012 --> 00:19:30,257 I was getting a little old grandma who owns property, 491 00:19:30,281 --> 00:19:32,792 and that is not a little old grandma. 492 00:19:32,816 --> 00:19:34,127 She wouldn't sign. 493 00:19:34,151 --> 00:19:35,295 Well, you can't sub her out 494 00:19:35,319 --> 00:19:37,130 with a friend who has a prior. 495 00:19:37,154 --> 00:19:39,699 That conviction is from 2005. 496 00:19:39,723 --> 00:19:41,201 He was 18. 497 00:19:41,225 --> 00:19:42,902 Two ounces of pot? 498 00:19:42,926 --> 00:19:44,070 That's, like, no pot. 499 00:19:44,094 --> 00:19:45,805 It's pot. It's a conviction. 500 00:19:45,829 --> 00:19:47,274 Which means I can't sign off on this. 501 00:19:47,298 --> 00:19:48,742 I can't make this go away. 502 00:19:48,766 --> 00:19:49,943 You can find someone else. 503 00:19:49,967 --> 00:19:51,211 No, I can't. 504 00:19:51,235 --> 00:19:52,545 What happened to the kinder, gentler... 505 00:19:52,569 --> 00:19:54,748 Don't with that. I am right here. 506 00:19:54,772 --> 00:19:56,750 But I work in an office 507 00:19:56,774 --> 00:19:59,219 with policies and procedures I have to follow. 508 00:19:59,243 --> 00:20:00,987 I need to get him out of there. 509 00:20:01,011 --> 00:20:02,756 He's only been in jail for three days. 510 00:20:02,780 --> 00:20:04,057 And in only three days, 511 00:20:04,081 --> 00:20:05,892 he's gone from a guy with light in his eyes 512 00:20:05,916 --> 00:20:08,094 to a guy with a bruised face. 513 00:20:08,118 --> 00:20:10,163 How would you do in jail for three days? 514 00:20:10,187 --> 00:20:11,994 I'm doing everything I can. 515 00:20:12,018 --> 00:20:14,390 I am doing everything I can! 516 00:20:18,295 --> 00:20:20,106 I'll interview him. 517 00:20:20,130 --> 00:20:22,899 If I'm satisfied, I will push this through. 518 00:20:24,501 --> 00:20:26,413 $100,000? 519 00:20:26,437 --> 00:20:27,747 Did Allison not discuss 520 00:20:27,771 --> 00:20:29,683 - the amount of the bond with you? - She did. 521 00:20:29,707 --> 00:20:31,985 It's just different hearing it in here in this office. 522 00:20:32,009 --> 00:20:33,420 There are official seals on everything. 523 00:20:33,444 --> 00:20:34,621 If Rodney fails to appear, 524 00:20:34,645 --> 00:20:36,323 you're responsible for that amount. 525 00:20:36,347 --> 00:20:37,590 - I get it. - By signing this bond, 526 00:20:37,614 --> 00:20:38,792 you're making yourself responsible 527 00:20:38,816 --> 00:20:40,360 for Rodney appearing in court. 528 00:20:40,384 --> 00:20:41,360 When you say "responsible"... 529 00:20:41,384 --> 00:20:42,629 We could garnish your wages. 530 00:20:42,653 --> 00:20:44,197 Go after any assets you have. 531 00:20:44,221 --> 00:20:46,466 Which is why I'd like to go over them now. 532 00:20:46,490 --> 00:20:47,634 Uh, I've got the bar. 533 00:20:47,658 --> 00:20:49,035 Bank owns most of it. 534 00:20:49,059 --> 00:20:51,237 - A 2007 Grand Cherokee. - All paid for. 535 00:20:51,261 --> 00:20:52,172 According to the records, 536 00:20:52,196 --> 00:20:53,707 you also have a condo in Pittsburgh. 537 00:20:53,731 --> 00:20:55,475 It's valued at 160 grand. 538 00:20:55,499 --> 00:20:57,277 No. That's my sister's. 539 00:20:57,301 --> 00:20:58,945 The deed and the mortgage are in your name. 540 00:20:58,969 --> 00:21:01,214 - But it's not mine. - Legally it is. 541 00:21:01,238 --> 00:21:03,850 I bought that for her when her husband left her. 542 00:21:03,874 --> 00:21:05,227 Wait... 543 00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:08,321 - You're telling me... - We could go after that house. 544 00:21:08,345 --> 00:21:10,357 This is in the event that Rodney skips town 545 00:21:10,381 --> 00:21:11,324 or misses a court date. 546 00:21:11,348 --> 00:21:12,425 That shouldn't happen. 547 00:21:12,449 --> 00:21:15,228 I'm just required to lay out the worst-case scenario. 548 00:21:15,252 --> 00:21:17,163 - Right. - Do you understand? 549 00:21:17,614 --> 00:21:18,998 I do. 550 00:21:19,022 --> 00:21:21,568 Good. 551 00:21:22,077 --> 00:21:24,304 But I can't. Do this. 552 00:21:24,328 --> 00:21:25,494 Uh, I know I said I would, 553 00:21:25,518 --> 00:21:27,407 but I can't risk my sister's place. 554 00:21:27,431 --> 00:21:28,908 I have enough people leaning on me. 555 00:21:28,932 --> 00:21:30,243 I can't handle another. 556 00:21:41,378 --> 00:21:44,858 Did anybody actually see Mr. French strike Mr. Orsua? 557 00:21:44,882 --> 00:21:45,912 He went after him. 558 00:21:45,936 --> 00:21:47,193 They ended up under the bleachers 559 00:21:47,217 --> 00:21:48,528 and the dude came out with a cracked skull. 560 00:21:48,552 --> 00:21:49,458 So, no? 561 00:21:49,482 --> 00:21:50,563 What do you think happened? 562 00:21:50,587 --> 00:21:51,598 I don't know what happened. 563 00:21:51,622 --> 00:21:53,066 I just know no one testified 564 00:21:53,090 --> 00:21:54,267 to actually seeing Mr. French 565 00:21:54,291 --> 00:21:56,169 drive Mr. Orsua's head into the ground. 566 00:21:56,193 --> 00:21:57,524 The lady did. The mom. 567 00:21:57,548 --> 00:21:58,631 No. 568 00:21:58,655 --> 00:22:00,106 She said her friend told her that. 569 00:22:00,130 --> 00:22:02,008 - Same difference. - No, it's not. 570 00:22:02,032 --> 00:22:03,243 That testimony was inadmissible. 571 00:22:03,267 --> 00:22:05,211 - I heard it. - Yeah. I heard it, too. 572 00:22:05,235 --> 00:22:06,379 - You have to ignore it. - Why? 573 00:22:06,403 --> 00:22:08,021 - Because it was hearsay. - Say what? 574 00:22:08,045 --> 00:22:09,182 Hearsay. 575 00:22:09,206 --> 00:22:10,216 An out-of-court statement 576 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,585 offered for the truth of the matter asserted. 577 00:22:12,609 --> 00:22:14,354 It was in court. I heard it. 578 00:22:14,378 --> 00:22:15,889 Yeah, I heard it, too. The mom. 579 00:22:15,913 --> 00:22:18,347 Listen. I think you're probably right. 580 00:22:19,450 --> 00:22:21,461 But I also think French's wife 581 00:22:21,485 --> 00:22:23,530 was having an affair with Mr. Orsua. 582 00:22:23,554 --> 00:22:24,834 - What... - She looked like she felt 583 00:22:24,859 --> 00:22:26,800 so sorry for him when he was on the stand. 584 00:22:26,824 --> 00:22:29,869 Like, she cared about him more than her husband. 585 00:22:29,893 --> 00:22:32,305 - That would explain a lot. - I wish my husband would. 586 00:22:32,329 --> 00:22:34,396 We don't know that that's true and, frankly, it's irrelevant. 587 00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:35,408 To you. 588 00:22:35,432 --> 00:22:37,076 I have my set of facts, you have yours. 589 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:38,077 That's not how facts work. 590 00:22:38,101 --> 00:22:40,713 I may not be a judge, but that's how I feel. 591 00:22:40,737 --> 00:22:42,315 My facts are my facts. 592 00:22:42,339 --> 00:22:44,484 So you switching your vote yet, Pops, or what? 593 00:22:44,508 --> 00:22:46,119 Not guilty. 594 00:22:46,143 --> 00:22:48,288 Well, I tried. 595 00:22:48,312 --> 00:22:49,389 We can all thank Mr. Belvedere 596 00:22:49,413 --> 00:22:51,624 for dragging this out another day. 597 00:23:08,031 --> 00:23:09,442 I've been calling you. 598 00:23:09,466 --> 00:23:10,810 I know. I'm sorry. 599 00:23:10,834 --> 00:23:11,873 Thank you. 600 00:23:11,897 --> 00:23:14,347 I've been out trying to find money. 601 00:23:14,371 --> 00:23:17,517 Weirdly, people who Rodney hasn't seen for a few years 602 00:23:17,541 --> 00:23:20,320 don't want to be on the hook for $100,000. 603 00:23:20,344 --> 00:23:22,422 - This is crazy. - Bail is crazy. 604 00:23:22,446 --> 00:23:24,858 The idea that freedom depends on money. 605 00:23:24,882 --> 00:23:27,026 It's pretty much the whole system, isn't it? 606 00:23:27,050 --> 00:23:28,528 - It's cruel. - It's stupid. 607 00:23:28,552 --> 00:23:29,863 And this is federal court. 608 00:23:29,887 --> 00:23:31,431 If Rodney were in state court, 609 00:23:31,455 --> 00:23:33,333 he'd actually have to come up with the cash. 610 00:23:33,357 --> 00:23:35,101 I'm sure Leonard isn't helping. 611 00:23:35,125 --> 00:23:37,203 - He actually is. - Really? 612 00:23:37,227 --> 00:23:38,972 I'm sure you don't want to hear that right now, 613 00:23:38,996 --> 00:23:41,097 but he's trying. 614 00:23:42,833 --> 00:23:45,478 I don't know what it is about Rodney. 615 00:23:45,502 --> 00:23:47,547 If things had shaken out differently, 616 00:23:47,571 --> 00:23:49,315 he could have gone to Princeton. 617 00:23:49,339 --> 00:23:50,817 He could be a lawyer. 618 00:23:50,841 --> 00:23:55,355 Or a fashion designer or the next Kehinde Wiley. 619 00:23:55,379 --> 00:23:57,323 He would've been our friend. 620 00:23:57,347 --> 00:23:58,258 He would've come home 621 00:23:58,282 --> 00:24:00,159 and watched "Master of Crowns" with us. 622 00:24:00,183 --> 00:24:03,029 Let's go home, Al. And watch "Master of Crowns"... 623 00:24:03,053 --> 00:24:04,330 I don't want to go home. 624 00:24:04,354 --> 00:24:06,566 There's nothing you can do here right now. 625 00:24:06,590 --> 00:24:08,501 We'll look for money in the apartment. 626 00:24:08,525 --> 00:24:12,338 Maybe there's at least four quarters in the couch. 627 00:24:12,362 --> 00:24:13,506 Let's go home. 628 00:24:13,530 --> 00:24:14,841 That's it. 629 00:24:14,865 --> 00:24:16,476 What? 630 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:18,367 There is money in the apartment. 631 00:24:19,311 --> 00:24:20,413 Where? 632 00:24:20,437 --> 00:24:21,514 I need a favor. 633 00:24:21,538 --> 00:24:23,483 Where's the little vase that was up here on the shelf? 634 00:24:23,507 --> 00:24:25,184 A client of mine, Rodney Jenkins, 635 00:24:25,208 --> 00:24:26,286 is close to posting bail 636 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:28,488 but I can't find a third co-signer for the bond 637 00:24:28,512 --> 00:24:29,556 to put him over the top. 638 00:24:29,580 --> 00:24:32,325 Is that something we're supposed to understand? 639 00:24:32,349 --> 00:24:36,229 I want to co-sign for Rodney so he can get out of jail. 640 00:24:36,253 --> 00:24:37,263 It was right here... 641 00:24:37,287 --> 00:24:38,998 I don't own any property. 642 00:24:39,022 --> 00:24:40,433 The government will want that. 643 00:24:40,457 --> 00:24:42,713 I'm asking you to sign. 644 00:24:42,737 --> 00:24:43,870 Did you throw it away? 645 00:24:43,894 --> 00:24:45,738 Dad, I'm trying to talk to you. 646 00:24:45,762 --> 00:24:48,074 - Sign what? - The bond. 647 00:24:48,098 --> 00:24:50,043 She wants us to sign the bond. 648 00:24:50,067 --> 00:24:51,110 For Rodney? 649 00:24:51,134 --> 00:24:54,080 The Rodney we just heard about three seconds ago? 650 00:24:54,104 --> 00:24:55,281 He's a criminal. 651 00:24:55,305 --> 00:24:56,349 He's not a criminal. 652 00:24:56,373 --> 00:24:57,580 - He's in jail. - He was arrested. 653 00:24:57,604 --> 00:24:59,419 - For a crime. - For selling cigarettes... 654 00:24:59,443 --> 00:25:01,087 Which is a crime, right? 655 00:25:01,546 --> 00:25:03,840 - Right? - Why are you... 656 00:25:04,648 --> 00:25:06,392 Forget Rodney. This isn't about Rodney. 657 00:25:06,416 --> 00:25:08,928 You would be doing this for me. 658 00:25:08,952 --> 00:25:12,198 I get 25% of my trust when I turn 30. 659 00:25:12,222 --> 00:25:13,366 Skip it. Keep it. 660 00:25:13,390 --> 00:25:16,603 I am 100% sure Rodney will make his court appearances, 661 00:25:16,627 --> 00:25:18,471 but this way you'd be protected. 662 00:25:18,495 --> 00:25:20,640 This is basically a loan to me. 663 00:25:20,664 --> 00:25:21,684 An advance on money 664 00:25:21,708 --> 00:25:23,209 you're already planning on giving me, 665 00:25:23,233 --> 00:25:25,612 and all it takes is a signature. 666 00:25:25,636 --> 00:25:29,649 Al, I think you are improperly attached to this Rodney. 667 00:25:29,673 --> 00:25:31,250 - What? - I agree. 668 00:25:31,274 --> 00:25:32,819 And there's a chance it doesn't end here. 669 00:25:32,843 --> 00:25:33,998 He could be using you. 670 00:25:34,022 --> 00:25:36,556 Are you... You guys are serious? 671 00:25:36,580 --> 00:25:37,557 Yes, we're serious. 672 00:25:37,581 --> 00:25:39,826 And, no, we are not signing for you or Rodney 673 00:25:39,850 --> 00:25:42,161 or anyone else you fall in love with. 674 00:25:42,185 --> 00:25:45,231 You're just putting your name on a piece of paper. 675 00:25:45,255 --> 00:25:46,299 Listen. 676 00:25:46,323 --> 00:25:47,734 I know you don't love 677 00:25:47,758 --> 00:25:49,636 what I'm doing with my life. 678 00:25:49,660 --> 00:25:52,138 I don't understand it, and I think it's unfair. 679 00:25:52,162 --> 00:25:53,573 We can talk about that later. 680 00:25:53,597 --> 00:25:55,074 But right now? 681 00:25:55,098 --> 00:25:56,409 I am your daughter, 682 00:25:56,433 --> 00:25:58,678 and I am asking you for help. 683 00:25:58,702 --> 00:26:00,313 Please. 684 00:26:00,871 --> 00:26:02,448 I don't think it's a good idea, 685 00:26:02,472 --> 00:26:04,517 and I think at some point when you are older, 686 00:26:04,541 --> 00:26:07,086 you will understand and appreciate this decision. 687 00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:09,522 - I am not a child! - Really? 688 00:26:09,546 --> 00:26:12,492 You're living in our apartment for free. 689 00:26:12,516 --> 00:26:15,028 You call us for money, and for no other reason. 690 00:26:15,052 --> 00:26:16,496 You want, you ask, and you take 691 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,531 with no consideration for who we are. 692 00:26:18,555 --> 00:26:20,199 You are a child. 693 00:26:20,223 --> 00:26:22,468 You are our child and we're your parents, 694 00:26:22,492 --> 00:26:23,803 and we're saying no. 695 00:26:23,827 --> 00:26:25,371 No. 696 00:26:25,395 --> 00:26:27,674 Find the vase and put it back. 697 00:26:43,596 --> 00:26:45,063 So, listen. 698 00:26:46,326 --> 00:26:47,570 Jason... 699 00:26:47,594 --> 00:26:49,863 I know. I can see it on your face. 700 00:26:50,964 --> 00:26:52,375 I tried to raise some money myself. 701 00:26:52,399 --> 00:26:53,609 Are we done here now? 702 00:26:53,633 --> 00:26:55,745 Rodney, I'm going to push 703 00:26:55,769 --> 00:26:57,714 to get a deferred prosecution deal. 704 00:26:57,738 --> 00:26:59,315 That would mean no jail time... 705 00:26:59,339 --> 00:27:01,884 Yeah, I heard this before. From you. 706 00:27:01,908 --> 00:27:04,454 No jail time. And here I am. 707 00:27:04,478 --> 00:27:06,422 In jail. For what? 708 00:27:06,446 --> 00:27:08,491 Two more weeks? Months? 709 00:27:08,515 --> 00:27:09,926 - Five years? - It won't be that long. 710 00:27:09,950 --> 00:27:11,994 You keep saying that and here I am! 711 00:27:12,018 --> 00:27:14,097 And I haven't even been convicted of anything. 712 00:27:14,121 --> 00:27:16,833 I'm done talking. I'm done talking to you. 713 00:27:23,163 --> 00:27:25,131 I'm sorry. This isn't your fault. 714 00:27:27,134 --> 00:27:29,479 I just can't talk about this anymore. 715 00:27:29,503 --> 00:27:32,682 I can't hope I'm gonna get out anytime soon. 716 00:27:32,706 --> 00:27:35,785 The only way to survive in here is to have no hope. 717 00:27:35,809 --> 00:27:38,454 Zero. To live minute by minute. 718 00:27:38,478 --> 00:27:40,312 I need to survive. 719 00:27:42,516 --> 00:27:45,585 I'm going to survive. 720 00:27:47,487 --> 00:27:50,166 I'm gonna make it through this and do better. 721 00:27:50,190 --> 00:27:51,934 When I get out, whenever that is, 722 00:27:51,958 --> 00:27:53,669 I'm gonna be a better man. 723 00:27:53,693 --> 00:27:55,872 I'm gonna be a father who is there 724 00:27:55,896 --> 00:27:58,641 and provides for his daughter in the right way. 725 00:27:58,665 --> 00:28:02,044 I want to be the person for her that I never had. 726 00:28:02,068 --> 00:28:05,605 I want her to be happy, and I want to be happy. 727 00:28:06,689 --> 00:28:12,167 But right now, I can't have any hope. 728 00:28:15,515 --> 00:28:17,727 Because I need to survive. 729 00:28:17,751 --> 00:28:21,297 Because I want to live to see something good. 730 00:28:36,837 --> 00:28:38,347 How do you do it? 731 00:28:38,371 --> 00:28:40,183 There's a little hook. 732 00:28:40,207 --> 00:28:41,651 No. Not that. 733 00:28:41,675 --> 00:28:43,085 Is it about the bike generally? 734 00:28:43,109 --> 00:28:44,921 How do you live with Seth? 735 00:28:44,945 --> 00:28:46,489 Because of the sleep walking? 736 00:28:46,513 --> 00:28:48,024 Because he's a prosecutor. 737 00:28:48,048 --> 00:28:50,660 Oh. That? That's not a problem. 738 00:28:50,684 --> 00:28:52,662 Don't you think it impacts the way you do your job? 739 00:28:52,686 --> 00:28:54,197 It certainly doesn't make me any less aggressive, 740 00:28:54,221 --> 00:28:55,223 if that's what you mean. 741 00:28:55,247 --> 00:28:56,643 If anything, it's the other way around, 742 00:28:56,667 --> 00:28:58,701 especially if he's left dishes in the sink. 743 00:28:58,725 --> 00:29:00,269 Or let that cat in from across the hall. 744 00:29:00,293 --> 00:29:03,506 I do not like that cat. 745 00:29:03,530 --> 00:29:05,007 - Why? - Oh, just curious. 746 00:29:05,031 --> 00:29:07,109 Mm, it's not an issue. We do our jobs. 747 00:29:07,133 --> 00:29:08,411 I would never compromise anything for him. 748 00:29:08,435 --> 00:29:09,345 And he wouldn't for me. 749 00:29:09,369 --> 00:29:10,913 And I don't think any of us in this office 750 00:29:10,937 --> 00:29:12,471 would be any other way. 751 00:29:13,807 --> 00:29:15,251 How long have you been sitting in here? 752 00:29:15,275 --> 00:29:16,853 An hour. 753 00:29:16,877 --> 00:29:18,677 That's weird. Right? 754 00:29:23,316 --> 00:29:25,628 It's really no better than the coffee in the office. 755 00:29:25,652 --> 00:29:28,064 - But we're out of the office. - You say that like it's a good thing. 756 00:29:28,088 --> 00:29:29,699 It is. We're out. 757 00:29:29,723 --> 00:29:31,734 In the city with people. 758 00:29:31,758 --> 00:29:35,561 In the vibrant, pulsating life of the city. 759 00:29:36,663 --> 00:29:38,264 You returned that cocaine, right? 760 00:29:39,432 --> 00:29:41,444 - Okay, let's go. - What? 761 00:29:41,468 --> 00:29:43,212 Oh. 762 00:29:43,236 --> 00:29:44,680 Why is he so short? 763 00:29:44,704 --> 00:29:46,716 He's a normal-sized man. 764 00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:48,684 I always thought he was, like, seven feet tall 765 00:29:48,708 --> 00:29:51,510 with abs made of dark, weathered granite. 766 00:29:52,779 --> 00:29:53,756 Come on. We need to leave now. 767 00:29:53,780 --> 00:29:55,758 We don't need to leave. Why do we need to leave? 768 00:29:55,782 --> 00:29:57,989 Because I don't want to end up doing anything awkward. 769 00:29:58,013 --> 00:29:59,528 Then don't do something awkward. 770 00:29:59,552 --> 00:30:01,764 - Mm. Not really an option. - Just sit here. 771 00:30:01,788 --> 00:30:03,589 - I'm sure he doesn't even see us. - Judge! 772 00:30:05,792 --> 00:30:07,436 What the hell... 773 00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:09,705 I told you. Now I have to go over. 774 00:30:09,729 --> 00:30:11,741 No, you don't. You can stay here. 775 00:30:11,765 --> 00:30:13,709 He's there. You're here... 776 00:30:13,733 --> 00:30:15,611 Morning. Hello, Your Honor. 777 00:30:15,635 --> 00:30:17,603 Good morning, Ms. Littlejohn. Mr. Oliver. 778 00:30:18,838 --> 00:30:21,707 - Do you want to join me? - No, we don't want to bother you. 779 00:30:23,643 --> 00:30:25,678 Is that a juror badge? 780 00:30:26,813 --> 00:30:30,393 I'm serving our state court this week from the jury box. 781 00:30:30,417 --> 00:30:32,728 Wow. That must be weird. 782 00:30:32,752 --> 00:30:34,964 Mostly for the others. Not that you're weird... 783 00:30:34,988 --> 00:30:36,632 Seth hasn't had his coffee. 784 00:30:36,656 --> 00:30:37,767 Yeah, it is weird. 785 00:30:37,791 --> 00:30:39,669 They have no respect for what I do 786 00:30:39,693 --> 00:30:41,771 and my years of experience in the courtroom. 787 00:30:41,795 --> 00:30:43,306 Well, that's kind of the point. 788 00:30:43,330 --> 00:30:44,384 - Right? - Seth... 789 00:30:44,408 --> 00:30:46,642 No, I just mean, you're a judge. 790 00:30:46,666 --> 00:30:47,690 They're people. 791 00:30:47,714 --> 00:30:49,679 They're supposed to be just people. 792 00:30:49,703 --> 00:30:52,181 With no special knowledge or experience. 793 00:30:52,205 --> 00:30:55,117 If it was all judges and lawyers on a jury, 794 00:30:55,141 --> 00:30:59,588 it wouldn't be a jury. It'd be a... judgery. 795 00:30:59,612 --> 00:31:01,924 He's not well... 796 00:31:02,699 --> 00:31:04,742 That's an excellent point, Mr. Oliver. 797 00:31:05,118 --> 00:31:07,863 There's no room for a judge on that jury. 798 00:31:07,887 --> 00:31:09,198 Thank you. 799 00:31:18,465 --> 00:31:20,376 - What are those? - Doughsants. 800 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,878 Part doughnut, part croissant. 801 00:31:22,902 --> 00:31:24,880 I figured since I've been the one muddying up the works, 802 00:31:24,904 --> 00:31:27,016 I could at least bring a treat. 803 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,118 I'm open to change my vote. 804 00:31:29,142 --> 00:31:31,521 I realize I may have been stubborn and arrogant 805 00:31:31,545 --> 00:31:33,456 up to this point. So, go ahead. 806 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,358 Tell me why French is guilty. 807 00:31:35,382 --> 00:31:36,726 He ran at the guy. 808 00:31:36,750 --> 00:31:38,361 - He was yelling. - He was. 809 00:31:38,385 --> 00:31:40,129 He had all the reason in the world to do it 810 00:31:40,153 --> 00:31:42,365 because of the laser pointer being shined at his kid. 811 00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:43,899 And because of the affair the guy 812 00:31:43,923 --> 00:31:45,134 was having with French's wife. 813 00:31:45,158 --> 00:31:46,335 Those shoes he was wearing. 814 00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:48,141 They're not shoes. They're not sandals. 815 00:31:48,165 --> 00:31:49,538 What are they? They're douchey. 816 00:31:49,562 --> 00:31:50,796 I own the same pair. 817 00:31:52,432 --> 00:31:54,877 I had to bail my daughter out of jail once. 818 00:31:54,901 --> 00:31:56,846 A friend dragged her to a party. 819 00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:57,847 It got busted. 820 00:31:57,871 --> 00:31:59,148 That friend bought drugs. 821 00:31:59,172 --> 00:32:01,217 My daughter was carrying her purse. 822 00:32:01,241 --> 00:32:03,552 They didn't charge her because of who I am. 823 00:32:03,576 --> 00:32:05,855 But if they did... if she went to trial, 824 00:32:05,879 --> 00:32:07,356 who would believe that she went to that party 825 00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:08,891 and didn't drink or do drugs? 826 00:32:08,915 --> 00:32:10,359 It's not logical. 827 00:32:10,383 --> 00:32:13,596 I'm her father, and I assumed that she was lying. 828 00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:15,364 Listen, that dude might have done it. 829 00:32:15,388 --> 00:32:17,533 Probably did. I think he did. I'll be honest. 830 00:32:17,557 --> 00:32:19,668 But if I'm putting myself in his position, 831 00:32:19,692 --> 00:32:20,669 or my daughter's... 832 00:32:20,693 --> 00:32:24,029 and we've all been there... is that enough? 833 00:32:25,932 --> 00:32:28,210 My husband fights with other parents 834 00:32:28,234 --> 00:32:29,912 at my daughter's soccer games. 835 00:32:29,936 --> 00:32:31,047 I hate it. 836 00:32:31,071 --> 00:32:33,949 Maybe that has something to do with how I'm thinking. 837 00:32:33,973 --> 00:32:36,252 People in my building accuse me of hogging three dryers 838 00:32:36,276 --> 00:32:38,120 with no evidence at all. 839 00:32:38,144 --> 00:32:40,556 I do. I hog them. But they don't know that. 840 00:32:42,916 --> 00:32:44,860 Is second-degree assault too much 841 00:32:44,884 --> 00:32:47,563 for a skirmish at a Little League game? 842 00:32:54,894 --> 00:32:56,061 Rodney? 843 00:32:59,632 --> 00:33:01,067 Rodney. 844 00:33:02,335 --> 00:33:04,780 I feel like I can see the future with him. 845 00:33:04,804 --> 00:33:07,483 Two distinct paths. 846 00:33:07,507 --> 00:33:08,984 We get him out on bond, 847 00:33:09,008 --> 00:33:11,887 Leonard and I work out a deferred prosecution deal 848 00:33:11,911 --> 00:33:14,622 and he turns this all around. 849 00:33:15,415 --> 00:33:18,127 He can be special at anything he does. 850 00:33:18,418 --> 00:33:19,995 The other path? 851 00:33:20,019 --> 00:33:22,798 - You know what it is. - I do. 852 00:33:22,822 --> 00:33:26,435 I asked my parents to sign the bond. 853 00:33:26,459 --> 00:33:29,972 Okay. That's... unorthodox. 854 00:33:29,996 --> 00:33:32,108 - They said no. - Why? 855 00:33:32,557 --> 00:33:33,976 I don't know. 856 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,178 I don't understand my parents. 857 00:33:36,811 --> 00:33:38,271 I never have. 858 00:33:39,506 --> 00:33:41,250 I was a horrible kid growing up. 859 00:33:41,274 --> 00:33:43,819 I was an army brat. We moved a lot. 860 00:33:43,843 --> 00:33:45,588 The easiest way to make new friends 861 00:33:45,612 --> 00:33:47,356 is to fall in with the bad kids. 862 00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:49,758 I stole. I drank. I liked girls. 863 00:33:49,782 --> 00:33:51,494 Before I knew it, 864 00:33:51,518 --> 00:33:53,295 I was 23 with a son 865 00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:56,932 and I hadn't spoken to my parents in four years. 866 00:33:56,956 --> 00:33:58,934 What's his name? 867 00:34:00,427 --> 00:34:02,037 Marvin. 868 00:34:03,191 --> 00:34:05,875 I wanted him to have a nerdier name than me. 869 00:34:06,340 --> 00:34:07,884 Marvin. 870 00:34:08,568 --> 00:34:12,047 His name was Marvin. 871 00:34:18,411 --> 00:34:20,022 I'm sorry. 872 00:34:22,248 --> 00:34:23,900 Um... 873 00:34:24,884 --> 00:34:27,229 When he passed, 874 00:34:27,253 --> 00:34:29,965 my parents were on my doorstep the next morning. 875 00:34:29,989 --> 00:34:34,303 They drove 16 hours from Chicago. 876 00:34:34,327 --> 00:34:36,872 Stayed with me for a month. 877 00:34:36,896 --> 00:34:38,874 I was done. 878 00:34:38,898 --> 00:34:42,011 I was done. 879 00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:44,836 And they brought me back to life. 880 00:34:47,073 --> 00:34:50,519 Parents don't always do what we want when we want, 881 00:34:50,543 --> 00:34:52,555 but they try to do their best. 882 00:34:52,929 --> 00:34:54,023 And they come through 883 00:34:54,047 --> 00:34:56,187 when they know you have nowhere else to go. 884 00:34:57,016 --> 00:34:59,284 Your parents made that calculation. 885 00:35:01,521 --> 00:35:02,932 I'll be fine. 886 00:35:02,956 --> 00:35:05,568 But Rodney doesn't have parents. 887 00:35:05,592 --> 00:35:07,570 And the people he does have? 888 00:35:07,594 --> 00:35:09,672 They are not coming through for him. 889 00:35:09,696 --> 00:35:11,941 This whole experience has reinforced every awful thing 890 00:35:11,965 --> 00:35:13,676 that's happened in his life. 891 00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:15,211 I am his person here, 892 00:35:15,235 --> 00:35:18,847 and I can't do a damn thing for him. 893 00:35:18,871 --> 00:35:22,051 Maybe these people don't know what you know? 894 00:35:22,075 --> 00:35:23,085 What's that? 895 00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:25,294 That this is it for Rodney. 896 00:35:25,945 --> 00:35:27,790 That this is the moment 897 00:35:27,814 --> 00:35:30,125 that will make him or break him. 898 00:35:30,149 --> 00:35:33,218 You have to make them see what you see. 899 00:35:34,954 --> 00:35:37,032 Or you can give up. 900 00:35:37,056 --> 00:35:39,201 You've done a lot for him already. 901 00:35:39,225 --> 00:35:40,936 What are you gonna do? 902 00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:49,821 What you asked for. 903 00:35:49,845 --> 00:35:52,357 The police report from the night Roger Gunn was swatted. 904 00:35:52,381 --> 00:35:54,907 You were right. Jill was there. 905 00:35:55,784 --> 00:35:56,825 I'm not a lawyer. 906 00:35:56,849 --> 00:35:58,162 I don't have to follow your rules. 907 00:35:58,186 --> 00:36:00,098 But I know people. I know Jill. 908 00:36:00,122 --> 00:36:01,622 I know what she gives to this job. 909 00:36:03,165 --> 00:36:04,759 I would leave it alone. 910 00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:15,880 Welcome back! 911 00:36:15,904 --> 00:36:16,975 Let me do a quick count to make sure 912 00:36:16,999 --> 00:36:18,347 we didn't lose anyone on the trip. 913 00:36:19,074 --> 00:36:21,352 Great. Still have 12. 914 00:36:21,376 --> 00:36:22,987 Now, I understand you've reached a verdict. 915 00:36:23,011 --> 00:36:26,624 Yeah, it took awhile, but we got it. 916 00:36:26,648 --> 00:36:28,393 What say you? 917 00:36:28,417 --> 00:36:30,528 We, the jury, in the case 918 00:36:30,552 --> 00:36:33,631 of the People of the State of New York v. Carl French, 919 00:36:33,655 --> 00:36:36,701 find the defendant not guilty. 920 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:51,249 Good afternoon, Juror Number 9! 921 00:36:51,273 --> 00:36:53,541 Please. 922 00:36:55,444 --> 00:36:57,488 - Number 4. - And? 923 00:36:57,512 --> 00:36:58,923 How was it? 924 00:36:58,947 --> 00:37:00,425 Not what I expected. 925 00:37:01,783 --> 00:37:05,596 But still interesting. 926 00:37:05,620 --> 00:37:08,766 Alarming, sad, unfair, frustrating. 927 00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:11,202 Deeply unsettling at times. 928 00:37:11,226 --> 00:37:15,321 But, you know, all those people, 929 00:37:16,598 --> 00:37:19,077 they got it right in the end. 930 00:37:19,101 --> 00:37:20,278 I think. 931 00:37:20,302 --> 00:37:22,547 Wasn't always clear that they would. 932 00:37:22,571 --> 00:37:24,349 That we would. 933 00:37:24,373 --> 00:37:27,518 People were drawing pictures more than I think is healthy 934 00:37:27,542 --> 00:37:32,880 in that environment, but I think we did get it right. 935 00:37:34,483 --> 00:37:35,546 And, you know, over here, 936 00:37:35,570 --> 00:37:38,296 we have all these great lawyers and judges 937 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,632 who are so smart and so learned and so rigorous, 938 00:37:41,656 --> 00:37:44,183 and they get it wrong. 939 00:37:44,993 --> 00:37:46,394 A lot. 940 00:37:46,962 --> 00:37:49,188 At a real cost to people's lives. 941 00:37:50,465 --> 00:37:53,077 This system is imperfect and unfair 942 00:37:53,101 --> 00:37:57,315 in ways I never really understood. 943 00:37:57,339 --> 00:37:58,716 You didn't talk to them like that, did you? 944 00:37:58,740 --> 00:38:00,533 A-At first, yeah. 945 00:38:01,276 --> 00:38:03,287 Didn't go over well. 946 00:38:03,311 --> 00:38:04,889 I wouldn't think so. 947 00:38:04,913 --> 00:38:06,457 But we warmed up to each other. 948 00:38:06,481 --> 00:38:08,326 We... We talked to each other like people. 949 00:38:08,350 --> 00:38:10,728 The jury room. The hospital waiting room. 950 00:38:10,752 --> 00:38:12,586 The subway car. 951 00:38:13,355 --> 00:38:14,565 There aren't many places left 952 00:38:14,589 --> 00:38:16,401 where you're just one little person 953 00:38:16,425 --> 00:38:18,903 bumping up against another little person. 954 00:38:18,927 --> 00:38:22,763 All together, all elevated... 955 00:38:23,432 --> 00:38:24,909 or diminished, I suppose, 956 00:38:24,933 --> 00:38:26,600 depending on where you came from. 957 00:38:27,502 --> 00:38:29,580 All equal. 958 00:38:29,604 --> 00:38:32,984 And in that moment, anyway, all connected. 959 00:38:39,815 --> 00:38:41,926 I don't have anything left to say. 960 00:38:41,950 --> 00:38:45,419 I know. I was hoping I could just say something. 961 00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:51,502 I liked Rodney instantly. 962 00:38:51,526 --> 00:38:53,938 That's not usually how it works for me. 963 00:38:53,962 --> 00:38:56,174 I felt like I knew him for years 964 00:38:56,198 --> 00:38:58,276 the second I laid eyes on him. 965 00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:03,514 He's smart, sensitive, optimistic, charming. 966 00:39:03,538 --> 00:39:07,018 He did not have all of the things I had growing up, 967 00:39:07,042 --> 00:39:09,018 but he had you. 968 00:39:09,478 --> 00:39:12,855 Rodney is such a great person because of you. 969 00:39:13,328 --> 00:39:16,373 My parents sent me to the best schools, 970 00:39:16,551 --> 00:39:18,996 put me in the best clothes. 971 00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:22,033 I live in their immaculate apartment. 972 00:39:22,057 --> 00:39:24,368 But I don't have their support. 973 00:39:24,392 --> 00:39:26,202 That hurts me. 974 00:39:26,895 --> 00:39:30,831 I know it, but it surprises me every time. 975 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,144 I can't complain 976 00:39:33,168 --> 00:39:36,047 because they've given me everything else, 977 00:39:36,071 --> 00:39:41,252 because this world we live in, this system, 978 00:39:41,276 --> 00:39:45,223 it is set up to help people like me. 979 00:39:45,247 --> 00:39:47,525 Cut one string? 980 00:39:47,549 --> 00:39:51,339 There are a thousand others holding me up. 981 00:39:51,340 --> 00:39:54,185 The system is stacked against Rodney. 982 00:39:54,209 --> 00:39:57,856 I'm not making excuses for him, but it's true. 983 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,457 We all make mistakes. 984 00:39:59,481 --> 00:40:01,026 Some of us are lucky enough 985 00:40:01,050 --> 00:40:03,328 to not have our mistakes come back and haunt us. 986 00:40:03,352 --> 00:40:05,830 It's a luxury. 987 00:40:05,854 --> 00:40:08,733 Rodney has one string left. 988 00:40:08,757 --> 00:40:11,069 One person left. 989 00:40:11,093 --> 00:40:13,638 You can't cut the string. 990 00:40:13,662 --> 00:40:17,075 Not now when he has nothing else holding him up.